[Q] Nexus 4 8GB/16GB have the same NAND module... - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

A bird said to me that both models have the same NAND module (16GB) only that the NAND module of 8GB is lock.
Anyone confirm that?

That would make no sense at all...?

supercakefish said:
That would make no sense at all...?
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It may make sense. I don't know the exact costs, but these memory chips are getting to be awfully cheap these days. It may infact cost less to buy more of the 16gb chips at a lower cost (volume discount) than to build two versions of the boards, one with 8gb of storage and one with 16gb. They may disable half the memory to give you an incentive to upgrade to the more expensive model so they aren't selling the phone strictly at cost (or even a loss). This is actually not uncommon in the world of electronics (for features to be simply be disabled on lower level models).
No idea if it's true, but it's not outside the realm of possibility. Perhaps we'll find out when the 8gb units get out in the wild and somebody cracks one open.

If this is true, doesn't that technically mean that with some software we could unlock the other 8GB's? Or do we have to solder?

Maybe google slc-ed it on the 8gb version, though this would also cause performance differences :S
Where did you hear this from? I was already torn between the 8gb and 16gb (but leaning towards the 16gb) and this just makes it worse

Seems to me it would be more logical in that situation to just have a $325 16gb model.
You loose $25 from anyone who was going to buy the 16, but gain it back from anyone who was buying the 8, which would likely be at a loss in this situation anyways.

m.a.Garcia said:
A bird said to me that both models have the same NAND module (16GB) only that the NAND module of 8GB is lock.
Anyone confirm that?
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It's not true.
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stubborn_d0nkey said:
Maybe google slc-ed it on the 8gb version, though this would also cause performance differences :S
Where did you hear this from? I was already torn between the 8gb and 16gb (but leaning towards the 16gb) and this just makes it worse
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The US$299 price point was deliberate, same as the us$199 for the Nexus 7. It's a marketing thing.

m.a.Garcia said:
A bird said to me that both models have the same NAND module (16GB) only that the NAND module of 8GB is lock.
Anyone confirm that?
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Big Bird?
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The cost is roughly 15$ for 16gb vs 8gb. It is unlikely that they downgrade for that price point since that is also roughly their profit margin. You don't get a 15$ volume discount from a 25$ chip.

Yes, the bird work's on Nexus 4, but doesn't know if lock by software or hardware, but confirm that is the same NAND module.

mesasone said:
The US$299 price point was deliberate, same as the us$199 for the Nexus 7. It's a marketing thing.
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I'm a little confused, why did you quote me?

m.a.Garcia said:
Yes, the bird work's on Nexus 4, but doesn't know if lock by software or hardware, but confirm that is the same NAND module.
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So do you have any proof of such thing? Until then, I don't see google programming a nand chip to give a 15$/€ discount.

''I used to be an open-minded person, but my brain kept falling out''

m.a.Garcia said:
Yes, the bird work's on Nexus 4, but doesn't know if lock by software or hardware, but confirm that is the same NAND module.
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You're wrong : in fact, it's a 32GB module disabled materially by the manufacturer of the memory to 8GB or 16GB, depending on orders:angel:

Any devs?
I know its not gonna happen, but dreaming is not bad either

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Smallest MicroSD card reader

Hi,
I found this thing :
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6108
Anyone has that?
Does it work with MicroSDHC card (6 GB or 8 GB) ?
Thanks.
gogol said:
Hi,
I found this thing :
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6108
Anyone has that?
Does it work with MicroSDHC card (6 GB or 8 GB) ?
Thanks.
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This is ridiculously small. It's fantastic, I'm sold on getting one.
Your question was answered on the website at the bottom.
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The factory says yes but we don't have such card here to test for it. If you're intending to use it for 4GB tf only, then I suggest you to wait for our in-house test confirmation first.
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Just curious, does it matter at all that it doesn't say SDHC compatible? Will it slow down data transfers? I saw one similiar on mobileplanet, but didn't order because of that.
I got this one instead: http://sandisk.com/Products/Catalog(1385)-SanDisk_MobileMate_Micro_Readers.aspx
It has the same type of keychain, and is very small as well. But, it says microSD, microSDHC, and M2 compatible.
I've got a smaller one, £5 off ebay. Be careful though, they can bend and could cause damage to your MicroSD.
http://alfa-media.com/products/mccr.html
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gogol said:
Hi,
I found this thing :
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6108
Anyone has that?
Does it work with MicroSDHC card (6 GB or 8 GB) ?
Thanks.
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thats not the smallest one, also, it will fall apart easily, I had a few.
kms
vijay555 said:
I've got a smaller one, £5 off ebay. Be careful though, they can bend and could cause damage to your MicroSD.
http://alfa-media.com/products/mccr.html
V
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now this is the smalest one, mine is by adata, its also the fastest.
it's a shame you need to buy the adata one with a 1GB or 2GB.
do you have a link, I wanna get a few more, i had mine for about half a year, just want to have some more for spare.
kms
Yeah, I think it's the same hardware. It's extremely useful for sucking off data from pcs that you shouldn't be touching, as the device can be barely seen protruding from a USB port.
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vijay555 said:
Yeah, I think it's the same hardware. It's extremely useful for sucking off data from pcs that you shouldn't be touching, as the device can be barely seen protruding from a USB port.
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link please on ebay.
kms
Vijay,
But it does not say that it supports MicroSDHC, especially 6 GB and 8 GB.
However, it is really the smallest!
vijay555 said:
I've got a smaller one, £5 off ebay. Be careful though, they can bend and could cause damage to your MicroSD.
http://alfa-media.com/products/mccr.html
V
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kms,
Can you use your adata reader with 6GB and 8GB MicroSDHC?
kms108 said:
now this is the smalest one, mine is by adata, its also the fastest.
it's a shame you need to buy the adata one with a 1GB or 2GB.
do you have a link, I wanna get a few more, i had mine for about half a year, just want to have some more for spare.
kms
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I can't remember where I got it.
(see attached pic)
Been working great.
Here's links to something similar:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3032395&CatId=1579
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211154
http://www.amazon.com/DATA-MICRO-Reader-microSD-interface/dp/B000VE2PCG
berdinkerdickle said:
I can't remember where I got it.
(see attached pic)
Been working great.
Here's links to something similar:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3032395&CatId=1579
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211154
http://www.amazon.com/DATA-MICRO-Reader-microSD-interface/dp/B000VE2PCG
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thanks, I can get the adata one's in hong kong, but it's useless for me to buy the adata version with 1 GB or 2GB, i have no use for the memory card, to be honest , all my 1GB and 2GB microsd that I have , has all been given away, my smallest ones are 4GB now.
Vijay say's he got it from ebay for 5 USD, that's why i asked.
@gogol
it does not have to actually stated it for it to support it, search the forum for my test on micro sd, then you will get your anwser.
kms
kms
Only $0.01 per piece :
http://www.usbfever.com/index_eproduct_view.php?products_id=282

Launch of New Touch Diamond device today

All, Please enjoy the links in the post.
Today is the official lauch date for the Touch Diamond in Europe and Asia.
http://live.phonemag.com/
http://www.phonemag.com/gallery?album=3&gallery=78
As I post this the launch is taking place.
All the best,
Sam.
ps Summary of the show so far:
http://www.phonemag.com/htc-touch-diamond-is-announced-demoed-052686.php
got to get this phone
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got to get this phone
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HOORAY!!! ASIA will get it First!!!
What a lovely device!
Price: 538.00€
Release date: 18/06/2008.
http://www.pdashop.be/product/52823/htc-touch-diamond-uk.html
amazon.de
499€
It's definitely an iPhone killer.
I would've got this but.... no microSD slot. At least it's not explicitly mentioned on any product sheets I've seen htc.com, devicewire, expansys... They all just 4GB internal
nahguam said:
I would've got this but.... no microSD slot. At least it's not explicitly mentioned on any product sheets I've seen htc.com, devicewire, expansys... They all just 4GB internal
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ho noooo 4 gb is not enough shame such a nice phone killed by capacity
Hmm. Hope little 900mA/h battery be enough for all these nice features.
nahguam said:
I would've got this but.... no microSD slot. At least it's not explicitly mentioned on any product sheets I've seen htc.com, devicewire, expansys... They all just 4GB internal
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It does have a microSDHC slot.
Lyvia said:
Hmm. Hope little 900mA/h battery be enough for all these nice features.
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If htc's claim is true, its stand-by time doesn't look bad. At least it's not worse than Elf's.
Chip Swap
I noticed that his has the newer msm7201a chip in it. It is supposedly pin compatible with a tilt's msm7200. Can this be swapped into a tilt and utilize its enhanced speed (528 vs 400 mhz)?
Andrew
They layout and shape of the phone are strikingly like the LG KU990, at least, that's what I think
hk-trotter said:
It does have a microSDHC slot.
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Where have you seen that it does? I know lots of gadget news sites say it does but where did they get their information? It's my guess they just assumed it would have one.
Tracy and Matt website said:
There is NO microSD slot, adding it would have added 2mm to the chassis
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/05/06/htc_confirm_the_htc_touch_diamond
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They were at the HTC announcement.
wow
this diamond looks very thin.. slim... . hmmm..
nahguam said:
Where have you seen that it does?
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Here > http://www.intomobile.com/2008/05/03/just-how-good-will-the-htc-touch-diamond-diamond-htc-touch-pro-raphael-and-htc-touch-dual-pro-titanium-prove-to-be.html
There's a picture or two on this ( http://www.phonemag.com/htc-touch-diamond-is-announced-demoed-052686.php?nggpage=2 ) page where something like a slot is visible at the top edge.
hk-trotter said:
Here > http://www.intomobile.com/2008/05/03/just-how-good-will-the-htc-touch-diamond-diamond-htc-touch-pro-raphael-and-htc-touch-dual-pro-titanium-prove-to-be.html
There's a picture or two on this ( http://www.phonemag.com/htc-touch-diamond-is-announced-demoed-052686.php?nggpage=2 ) page where something like a slot is visible at the top edge.
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This is what I mean : (Could it be the power button?)
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This is what I mean : (Could it be the power button?)
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Yeah, that's the power button. Look to the left of it, it has the power icon.
hk-trotter said:
This is what I mean : (Could it be the power button?)
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That could very well be the sim card slot. However... I can't image HTC releasing a phone to compete in todays market without having a micro sd slot.. It COULD have a hidden slot like it does on the touch.

Black G1 for Sale! Rooted, Unlocked w/ 16gb sd

Hey guys, Im not sure if i am allowed to post this here or not. but i figured i'd give it a shot and se. Mods, If feel free to move or delete if this is not allowed. Just like the title says, I'm selling my g1. its black. Rooted, and unlocked to be used on any GSM network. I am also including a 16GB micro SD chip. Let me know if you ae interested. $175obo
cavz903 said:
Hey guys, Im not sure if i am allowed to post this here or not. but i figured i'd give it a shot and se. Mods, If feel free to move or delete if this is not allowed. Just like the title says, I'm selling my g1. its black. Rooted, and unlocked to be used on any GSM network. I am also including a 16GB micro SD chip. Let me know if you ae interested. $175obo
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$3.78, a half pack of skittles, and a high five. How that sound?
$4.29
2 bags of skittles, plus half pack of Now N Laters [the green apple ones]
and 2 snaps, a circle and twist!
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$4.29
2 bags of skittles, plus half pack of Now N Laters [the green apple ones]
and 2 snaps, a circle and twist!
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Ok ok. How bout a half a pack of stale newports, a pack of bubblicious cotton candy bubble gum, the shoe string off my left foot, and I'll let you be my myspace friend.
2 partially used condemns (comes with original packaging), 3/4's of a black and mild (wood tip), a dead car battery, and you don't have to be lee's friend on myspace.
1 fart in a sealed jar. mint condition!
Hey people its obvious he wants a LIMITED EDITION mint condition "no one cares"
david1171 said:
2 partially used condemns (comes with original packaging), 3/4's of a black and mild (wood tip), a dead car battery, and you don't have to be lee's friend on myspace.
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Before I place my next bid can you confirm that these are your partially used condemns. It's your brand right?
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Before I place my next bid can you confirm that these are your partially used condemns. It's your brand right?
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nawh man, i use the great value extra version of those, its 10 cents cheaper.
that must be some sd card he has there considering I can pick up a brand new G1 for less than 100 from t-mobile directly with contract or pick up a used no contract G1 from craigslist for about 75
Would you accept my dogs virginity and a small gerbil, fully loaded (no teeth or claws).
Did I mention the dogs fixed?
cavz903 said:
Hey guys, Im not sure if i am allowed to post this here or not. but i figured i'd give it a shot and se. Mods, If feel free to move or delete if this is not allowed. Just like the title says, I'm selling my g1. its black. Rooted, and unlocked to be used on any GSM network. I am also including a 16GB micro SD chip. Let me know if you ae interested. $175obo
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has this been sold yet?
logoris said:
has this been sold yet?
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You have to outbid us first.
supremeteam256 said:
You have to outbid us first.
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ok fine how bout a rare $175 payment and what ever the shipping is.
and ill offer up a dead and virus full laptop. used condition and only 4 years old
i really do need that phone though, my phone was bricked last night
logoris said:
i really do need that phone though, my phone was bricked last night
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You know you still have like 1 1/2 weeks to contact HTC for warranty since the phone is still under a year. I think it was released Oct. 20th.
will they repair it even though i was trying to modify it?
and i do like the convenience of not having to root it so my offer still stands
How much for that fart sealed in the jar? The inlaws are coming for the holidays I need an ideal gift from the family. Does it come with a certificate of authenticity?
logoris said:
will they repair it even though i was trying to modify it?
and i do like the convenience of not having to root it so my offer still stands
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Yes they will, many people on here have done it.
well i see if i can get it fixed but i still wana buy this phone too

Xoom Experiment

This was an idea I had not sure if its possible but here goes.
We all know the xoom comes in 2 versions wifi and wifi/3g with a 4G upgrade. So far I can only assume this kind of modification is possible to do the 3/4G model.
As an alternative to upgrading to the 4G network or if your xoom has a bad esn it might be possible to remove the dummy half-height mini pci-e card and replace it with a mini pci express ssd hard drive. Both cards use the same 26-Pin connector so in theory it should work. Although there is no telling how or if it will even recognize the ssd.
I Purchased a used wifi/3g xoom from amazon and a 80gb intel ssd from newegg..........let the testing begin
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Definately fill me in on this
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Interesting. Would of made more sense to post after you tested.
I'll bet it would, but you might need a kernel with the PCI bits turned on or modified.
I remember when I bought a PCI express card for a netbook to do hardware decoding (for smoother videos).
PCI express slots can be wired in different ways, specifically in my case as PCI-E or USB.
This slot could be wired as either considering it's to host 3G/4G whatever.
So this might be a restriction on what cards can be used.
Also when I mistakenly installed the 3G images on my WIFI only. It would try connect by 3G card first (even though non existent) and then try to use the WIFI. So given the card and the right drivers there's no reason why a 3G ATT/TM card couldn't be shoved in there either.
Not sure I'd be bother with more on-board disk space TBH.
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I'll bet it would, but you might need a kernel with the PCI bits turned on or modified.
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Your probably right.
Alpina? Hast du? /small thread-jack.
eaglecomm said:
Alpina? Hast du? /small thread-jack.
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Ich habe
Sold a while ago
What'd ya have? E38? E34? newer?
eaglecomm said:
What'd ya have? E38? E34? newer?
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E34 it was a 91 my dad helped me buy it after I graduated, not too long after that I sold it got a m-tech e30 and my cousin helped me with the s52 swap
nice.. I've got a 94 E34 540 6spd and love it.. hope you get back in to one someday.
ok really, /threadjack. back on topic....
So have you tried it yet? I have an 8gb miniPCI card just sitting around here that would be cool to try out if you find it works for you. Just like the others (and especially because of the work required to get the extra SD card running) I would imagine some kernel work would be required at the very least. As well as driver work. But who knows.. it's the ideas that count.
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I've got a bit of bad news for the wifi only owners
After taking apart my WiFi only xoom and comparing it to the 3G it's pretty obvious Motorola removed all necessary hardware on the WiFi model making in near impossible to try this. Although you could always buy a 26-pin pci-e connector and soldier it in to your xoom if your feeling brave.
Also my ssd will be here tomorrow 4/19 so we will see
So its the big day (19th) any good news yet? Really interested in this! Hope you pull it out! Think this will involve some kernel work as well? Maybe BigRushDog can help?
kenhunt said:
any good news yet?
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Depends- didja see the post where the Mini-PCI slot was missing? IOW, are ya any good with a soldering iron?
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Depends- didja see the post where the Mini-PCI slot was missing? IOW, are ya any good with a soldering iron?
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But isn't he doing it to his 3g xoom? Not the wifi.
I wouldn't mind hearing about an update on this.
Same, how's the work going?
Sent from the Aids ridden slums of China using the claw of an unborn rat
Very interesting topic!
I guess no news isn't always good news??? I hope there is some progress on this, would be nice to use when i don't want 3g/4g on my xoom anymore...
4/20 Update
For those waiting for an update yesterday I apologize, work was crazy and I didn't really have any free time.
As of today all I can say is stay tuned..... I've contacted a few forum members on the topic for some more insight on the next step and once I know more so will you.

Nexus 6 listing spotted on ATT

Was surfing around the ATT website and look at the listing I noticed on the right hand side. I clicked on it, and it went to just the page with the other Moto devices, but I thought it was interesting they have a listing there. The placeholder phone looks to be LG, hmmm.
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+1. I went to the LG G3 Vigor and I saw the listing too, but looks like just a place holder too. Looks like the release may be soon...
Nice find! We must be close!
Just navigated to that page and I see it too. Awesome.
hack14u said:
Was surfing around the ATT website and look at the listing I noticed on the right hand side. I clicked on it, and it went to just the page with the other Moto devices, but I thought it was interesting they have a listing there. The placeholder phone looks to be LG, hmmm.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byyc4VFutSeIMk02NFJiX3ZrdWM/view?usp=sharing
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it looks like the g3 though lol
Now the big question is will it have bloat and a locked bootloader?
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Now the big question is will it have bloat and a locked bootloader?
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Locked bootloader fixed with fastboot OEM lock... Is that really an issue for u? Lol
Bloat? On a nexus? Only the google apps I'm sure. The moto apps go on the moto x. What a weird question
DigitalUnderground said:
Locked bootloader fixed with fastboot OEM lock... Is that really an issue for u? Lol
Bloat? On a nexus? Only the google apps I'm sure. The moto apps go on the moto x. What a weird question
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AT&T bloat not moto.
I am new to android but I thought you needed the bootloader to be unlocked to remove carrier apps?
Nexus 6 Render
Found a render today at evleaks on twitter, looks to be from moto Couldn't post link cause am a new user Looks cool though.
Guess we'll find out today if this is being announced. Let's hope it's not too expensive.
Stories said:
Guess we'll find out today if this is being announced. Let's hope it's not too expensive.
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I have a hard time believing they'll be able to hit the nexus 5 price point but hopefully its under $500.
bestdayever said:
I have a hard time believing they'll be able to hit the nexus 5 price point but hopefully its under $500.
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http://www.androidauthority.com/european-nexus-6-nexus-9-prices-538646/
Nexus 6 32GB Black: 569 euro
Nexus 6 32GB White: 569 euro
Nexus 6 64GB Black: 649 euro
Nexus 6 64GB White: 649 euro
If this leak is accurate, Nexus smartphones will be available with 64GB of storage for the first time. Also, it’s good to see Google moving away from the 16GB option, which is inadequate for most users these days.
Nathan rd said:
http://www.androidauthority.com/european-nexus-6-nexus-9-prices-538646/
Nexus 6 32GB Black: 569 euro
Nexus 6 32GB White: 569 euro
Nexus 6 64GB Black: 649 euro
Nexus 6 64GB White: 649 euro
If this leak is accurate, Nexus smartphones will be available with 64GB of storage for the first time. Also, it’s good to see Google moving away from the 16GB option, which is inadequate for most users these days.
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Makes me wonder why they stayed at 16 for the base tablet. I see an SD card very unlikely but with the recent rumors I think it's possible
GTvert90 said:
Makes me wonder why they stayed at 16 for the base tablet. I see an SD card very unlikely but with the recent rumors I think it's possible
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From what I have read both phone and tablet get sd card slot for the first time.
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From what I have read both phone and tablet get sd card slot for the first time.
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Nope. 32 and 64GB version and no sd card.
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_nexus_6_and_htc_nexus_9_european_pricing_pops_up-news-9935.php

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