Battery & Performance disappointing from reviews - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I read through The Verge, Engadget and AnandTech (performance & battery) reviews and the general consensus was that performance and battery life isn't anything stellar. In fact, even though it has the same internal hardware (aside from the LTE) as the Optimus G, it performs significantly worse than the Optimus G.
AnandTech stated that it's probably due to thermal throttling(?) while Engadget blamed it on software that isn't in its final build yet.
Is anyone else extremely disappointed by the performance of this device?
I'm coming from a One X (AT&T) which performs much better on just about every benchmark there is and it's sad to see the device like the N4 performing far worse when it should be better (dual core S4 vs quad core S4, more RAM, more mAH etc).

Its the chrome browser, its really bad. I tried chrome on my gnex and scores significantly lower than the stock browser.

So your surprised a raw souped up hot rod burns more gas than a its less powerful more optimized counterparts?
:xda on sprint g-nex:

I fear that Anandtech is right, I can't think of any other way why the CPU scores in Antutu are that low,
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How can the web browsing battery life be worse than the One X, they have a similar screen but the One X has a smaller battery and an old processor (40nm).

They have REVIEW UNITS.. which isn't final anything.
I just watched The Verge 's hands on review, and they said battery life was great, so I don't know what your talking about.
Either way, not final software = not a reliable source
Thats like testing a prototype car, and it sucks, when in reality, its not even final...

If it wasn't close to the final why google even send those review unit.

iAndropple said:
They have REVIEW UNITS.. which isn't final anything.
I just watched The Verge 's hands on review, and they said battery life was great, so I don't know what your talking about.
Either way, not final software = not a reliable source
Thats like testing a prototype car, and it sucks, when in reality, its not even final...
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The verge was the only one that said battery life was good. And they didn't really run any tests, it was more of a let me see if it will get me through a day kind of thing.
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enviii said:
The verge was the only one that said battery life was good. And they didn't really run any tests, it was more of a let me see if it will get me through a day kind of thing.
Sent from my One X
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2100 mah battery will do me perfect... I get through about a day and a half without a single charge on my samsung galaxy s3, and it has a bigger screen, LTE, and the same battery. It shouldn't concern you, besides, there are tons of apps out there (like juice defender) that handle your radios and usage. It's a cell phone, it was made to get you through a full day, charge it up when sleeping, then use it again.

What did the Optimus G get? We should expect something similar I'm guessing if it is a software issue.

I saw in a video where the guy opened Battery Settings and Android OS took about 20 something % of the Battery... I remember there was a Bug in 4.0.3 ICS when i got an update on my Nexus s... Could be a software problem! Lets see what lands up in the final build!

Well, performance could be to thermal throttling. Do remember these units are probably quite old development units. As in the video by the verge the guy from google said 'we are still changing things on this device, even now'
Qualcomm is good at delivering driver updates for their GPUs, as not many devices use the Adreno 320 yet.

iAndropple said:
They have REVIEW UNITS.. which isn't final anything.
I just watched The Verge 's hands on review, and they said battery life was great, so I don't know what your talking about.
Either way, not final software = not a reliable source
Thats like testing a prototype car, and it sucks, when in reality, its not even final...
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This.
Also, the fact that some of the screen shots showed that there was a software update ready means that there might have been fixes in store.
Take these reviews with a grain of salt, kids.

I'm still a bit perplexed as to what these reviews deem to be "poor" battery life. I mean, most of the reviews that I've read state that in tests utilizing an infinite loop of Google searches, or an infinitely looping video, they all got around 5.5 hours of Screen On time on cellular data only. On average, I'm lucky if I get 2.5-3 hours of Screen On time on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus, with 4G turned OFF and connected to Wifi all day. With 3G only, that number comes down to about 2 hours of Screen On time. With 4G LTE on, that drops even further to about 1.5 hours of Screen On time.
I understand that the Optimus G gets the same Screen On time with 4G LTE on, and that without LTE the Nexus 4 should do much better. But to call 5.5 hours of Screen On time "poor" seems ridiculous to me.
EDIT: I should clarify that both my experience on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus and the reviews of the Nexus 4 that I referred to utilized 50% brightness.

Just wait until Google actually releases it. I personally don't trust hands on review because it's not a final release (both hardware and software) and they didn't have long time to use it
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel

dabomb224 said:
I'm still a bit perplexed as to what these reviews deem to be "poor" battery life. I mean, most of the reviews that I've read state that in tests utilizing an infinite loop of Google searches, or an infinitely looping video, they all got around 5.5 hours of Screen On time on cellular data only. On average, I'm lucky if I get 2.5-3 hours of Screen On time on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus, with 4G turned OFF and connected to Wifi all day. With 3G only, that number comes down to about 2 hours of Screen On time. With 4G LTE on, that drops even further to about 1.5 hours of Screen On time.
I understand that the Optimus G gets the same Screen On time with 4G LTE on, and that without LTE the Nexus 4 should do much better. But to call 5.5 hours of Screen On time "poor" seems ridiculous to me.
EDIT: I should clarify that both my experience on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus and the reviews of the Nexus 4 that I referred to utilized 50% brightness.
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If 5 hours of screen time out of a day of usage, that's good by me. I get less than three hours with my Note so that will be an improvement. Same for me when I had the One X. I was lucky to get 3.5 hours with the One X on wifi, let alone LTE. I've also experienced from my Note that software makes a world of difference.

It is a review unit, they want them to find review its current state. Google said they are still changing it , even now
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Related

Samsung GALAXY Beam

http://software2tech.com/2012/02/26...echnology-to-android-smartphones-galaxy-beam/
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-13970_7-10011428.html?tag=mncol
Seems cool but its such a niche market they are targeting.
Probably more than likely targeted for the Asian/Korean market. They had a previous model by the same or similar name last year.
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Well they called the Note a niche, now it seems pretty popular. But yeah this one will be niche, I don't care, if its not overpriced I will get it. Bigger screen is always a welcome.
I predict future phones will all have projecting ability.
didnt they release this phone like 2 years ago ?
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found it
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i8520_galaxy_beam-3150.php
released july 2010
sandyph said:
didnt they release this phone like 2 years ago ?
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LG released a projector phone a couple of years back.
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eksasol said:
Well they called the Note a niche, now it seems pretty popular. But yeah this one will be niche, I don't care, if its not overpriced I will get it. Bigger screen is always a welcome.
I predict future phones will all have projecting ability.
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The screen is only 4", but you're probably talking about the projected image. But if you're thinking the projected image is going to look even remotely good enough to "enjoy" you're fooling yourself - 15 lumens is pretty weak. And on top of that battery life is probably going to be dismal, other features will definitely be removed or skimped on to make room for the projector (and to keep the cost down), and Samsung will abandon this thing update-wise faster than you can say "Samsung will abandon this thing update-wise". For all those reasons I wouldn't touch this thing with a 10' pole. The more I think about it, you have yourself a recipe for the worst phone of 2012 brewing in this thing.
This video was filmed at MWC2012 at Barcelona.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB3cFLvn9uQ
You can see the main functions and the projector. I am here for any questions.
Interesting concept but projector quality and battery life are probably lacking.
Hey!
I have used the phone for a week now and it's absolutely amazing! Here's a video review I made. I apologize for the bad quality in the dark shots, but my cameras are too average to handle it. I can assure you the image is crisp clear in complete dark rooms, but in even the slightest light you loose details and sharpness, and as you can see in my video, in the evening (it was 7 pm), you can't see a thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL3kEi40aBs
Feel free to ask questions
floiancu said:
Hey!
I have used the phone for a week now and it's absolutely amazing! Here's a video review I made. I apologize for the bad quality in the dark shots, but my cameras are too average to handle it. I can assure you the image is crisp clear in complete dark rooms, but in even the slightest light you loose details and sharpness, and as you can see in my video, in the evening (it was 7 pm), you can't see a thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL3kEi40aBs
Feel free to ask questions
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Very cool :] Thanks!
floiancu said:
Hey!
I have used the phone for a week now and it's absolutely amazing! Here's a video review I made. I apologize for the bad quality in the dark shots, but my cameras are too average to handle it. I can assure you the image is crisp clear in complete dark rooms, but in even the slightest light you loose details and sharpness, and as you can see in my video, in the evening (it was 7 pm), you can't see a thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL3kEi40aBs
Feel free to ask questions
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how was the battery life on it, is it for like a short time use on battery? or can you play an entire movie?
It can go a full 5h on one charge, so they say, but i have never tried to drain the battery on the projector only. What's more, you get a second battery you can charge independently and simultaneously so watching a full movie is a piece of cake. As far as a smartphone goes, it uses the battery fairly ok, you can easily get more than an entire day on 3g, wifi and others.
MadJoe said:
The screen is only 4", but you're probably talking about the projected image. But if you're thinking the projected image is going to look even remotely good enough to "enjoy" you're fooling yourself - 15 lumens is pretty weak. And on top of that battery life is probably going to be dismal, other features will definitely be removed or skimped on to make room for the projector (and to keep the cost down), and Samsung will abandon this thing update-wise faster than you can say "Samsung will abandon this thing update-wise". For all those reasons I wouldn't touch this thing with a 10' pole. The more I think about it, you have yourself a recipe for the worst phone of 2012 brewing in this thing.
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I have used the phone for a month now. I considered getting it for its battery life more than for its projector. The price is as expected if you consider that pico projectors cost ~£70 on ebay. Nevertheless I am so pissed off with any smartphone's battery life in general that I would easily pay £70 to get one that gives best possible.
This phone has 4" and 2 batteries with 2000miliamphours close to SGSIII or the new google nexus that have much bigger screen. So if I don't use the projector but every thing else turned on 24/7, Wifi, 3G, live wallpaper, skype, steam, 6 im+ accounts and normal to heavy use, I can get 2 days without charging AND having the 2nd battery that comes in the box for another 2 days.
I was expecting the projector to be nothing more than a gimmick and not good as it actually is! With flash support I can stream live tv on my wall or ceiling. I had to craft a base for it from a little box so that it can stay upright and charge at the same time. Sure it needs to be dark but for the times of the day that i wanted to use it, darkness was not a problem. Even in daytime thought, I can use a A4 sheet of paper across the desk from where its charging and play videos or tv shows as an additional 10-12" screen on my desktop.
So your assumption about battery life, sorry to say but it is false. The battery life on this phone is one of the best out there, just because they needed to do so to support the projector. The projector is a feature more than it is a gimmick and it has proven useful for me on every day use.
Cons:
-I've only heard announcements for official upgrade to JB but I haven't received one yet. Still running GingerBread.
-no 3rd party support for roms and kernels, yet., I am missing features such as USB-OTG and overclocking. Barely a rooting guide exists.
-no dedicated XDA forum for GT-I8530
-stock prevents me from using the projector while gps is locating.. (not a yuge problem imo, just annoyance)
Overall the phone is a WIN situation for me. Official or 3rd party support is a matter of time.
Why is there no XDA forum for it? They should start turning op pretty cheap on ebay and with the projector it's an obvious candidate for custom applications.
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Smint80 said:
Why is there no XDA forum for it? They should start turning op pretty cheap on ebay and with the projector it's an obvious candidate for custom applications.
- Smint
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Tom'sGuide review: Droid Turbo w/ 3900mAh = 9.5 hrs, HTC M8 w/ 2600mAh = 10 hrs. WTH?

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/droid-turbo-battery-life,news-19846.html
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The HTC One M8 with it's 2600mAh battery is kicking the Droid Turbos 3,900mAh battery's ass?
Jesus Motorola, no one gives a damn about 565 vs 400 pixels per inch on a mere 5.2 inch screen... simply put a 1080p screen in there and give us MOAR battery life!
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I saw this too. Makes no sense to me. I mean, I get that the D.T. has more pixels to light up but the battery is 50% larger and comes with a near stock version of Android. How does HTC do it? Is there a trade off I'm not hearing about?
Just said this in another thread lol:Tom's Hardware is a great site, but I've never held a lot of stock in their battery test. 50 random "popular" websites browsed on a data network, screen on the whole time. This allows for variables in the graphics of the websites over time, what websites were used, the network's traffic and the device's proximity to a tower. It only tests the phone's screen on battery performance, nothing to do with standby. You might say that doesn't matter, but then you've never owned a Touchwiz device.
That being said, there's no way it will as good on battery as the Maxx. The 805 is an efficiency improvement in design, but this is a 2.7ghz quad-core processor with biggest GPU Qualcomm's ever released, compared to the dual-core modified S4 Pro in the Maxx. Oh and 4 times as many pixels but only another 400mah added? No way it's holding up. Still, if the Turbo charger is as fast as it's supposed to be, I'm not really worried.
Are all these phones running the EXACT same apps at the EXACT same time for the EXACT same length of time (not just "we surfed the web the exact same way - what was running in the background)? Was the strength of signal IDENTICAL for each phone's test (post claims iphone6 was on AT&T, not VZW)? Too many variables left out in a simple graph.
El Perfecto said:
I saw this too. Makes no sense to me. I mean, I get that the D.T. has more pixels to light up but the battery is 50% larger and comes with a near stock version of Android. How does HTC do it? Is there a trade off I'm not hearing about?
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No clue really Will need to see what more good review websites have to say.
Here's Gizmodo's claim on the battery life: http://gizmodo.com/droid-turbo-is-here-but-about-that-battery-1652801400
Yes, the new Droid Turbo has curb appeal. It has a massive battery, a 2K display and a blazing fast mobile processor, but it's also basically just a beefier Moto X that's locked to Verizon's network. The battery is the biggest difference. And in early tests, it looks like that battery may not deliver.
After setting up my 64GB ballistic nylon reviewer's unit, downloading my usual apps and logging into way too many accounts, I slipped the Turbo on its charger and filled up to 100 percent overnight. In the morning, off the cord at 8 AM, I've used the smartphone quite a bit, but still well within the realm of normal use. I listened to Spotify on my commute, used Google Maps to find my way to a meeting, snapped some photos at said meeting, recorded about an hour of audio, and Google Maps'ed my way back to the office. Now all of that may seem like a lot, but I didn't stream any video or play any games. For the rest of the day, I checked a few messages, took a few more pictures, and pretty much just let Moto Display blink on and off in standby mode. By the time I left work, I was at 35 percent.
After that, I listened to some more music, did some light web browsing, and traversed through a few Vines. My phone was dead by 11am the next day.
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if all this is true what going to be the battery life on Nexus 6 with larger display and smallest battery, can MOTOROLA faild with this issues
I can't put much stock in a test this fast unless they had it a week already. Needs time to settle in. Google now alone is a battery killer until it learns your habbits.
joshm.1219 said:
Just said this in another thread lol:Tom's Hardware is a great site, but I've never held a lot of stock in their battery test. 50 random "popular" websites browsed on a data network, screen on the whole time. This allows for variables in the graphics of the websites over time, what websites were used, the network's traffic and the device's proximity to a tower. It only tests the phone's screen on battery performance, nothing to do with standby. You might say that doesn't matter, but then you've never owned a Touchwiz device.
That being said, there's no way it will as good on battery as the Maxx. The 805 is an efficiency improvement in design, but this is a 2.7ghz quad-core processor with biggest GPU Qualcomm's ever released, compared to the dual-core modified S4 Pro in the Maxx. Oh and 4 times as many pixels but only another 400mah added? No way it's holding up. Still, if the Turbo charger is as fast as it's supposed to be, I'm not really worried.
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Wow 4x the pixels. I didn't do the math but .2" larger screen and stepping up from 720 to quad hd, I believe you. I can understand the advantage in having the most ppi as a selling point, personal taste and all I would rather have had better battery life and a 1080 screen. We'll see though. Everyone here is saying be patient, wait a couple weeks and check reviews on how the battery is holding up. I can do that.
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Wow 4x the pixels. I didn't do the math but .2" larger screen and stepping up from 720 to quad hd, I believe you. I can understand the advantage in having the most ppi as a selling point, personal taste and all I would rather have had better battery life and a 1080 screen. We'll see though. Everyone here is saying be patient, wait a couple weeks and check reviews on how the battery is holding up. I can do that.
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Yeah well at least a week. I'll be posting my charging and battery findings in a few days, you do need to give new lithium-ion cells some time to settle in. I would definitely rather have 1080p, QHD is the dumbest spec grab that the industry has had in awhile. Why these companies are spending so much more money on the display panel, which is already the most expensive part of the device, just to up its resolution is beyond me. A resolution that almost no apps support, almost no content supports, and isn't even technically discernible to the human eye. But whatever, still a lovely screen.
Startes at 81% 8 hrs ago...instakled all apps and 2 hrs screen time and i am at 50%...just overall it seems the turb is sipping battery. Early but much better than note 4 so far

Overheating Issues

Before anyone accuses me of bashing, bringing up things that have already previously been discussed, or just plain wants a go - I'm a huge HTC fan and adore their phones.
So I work for O2 in the UK as a Guru, I get to play with phones a lot - in fact it's all I do. From the moment I picked up the M9, I've decided it's the one for me over the S6 and Edge. There are, however, some issues. We all know that the camera isn't the best, the BoomSound may be a step back this year, but there's one thing that's really bugging me and concerning me. Overheating.
Overheating and the S810 has been covered a lot. However, it's a real issue and it needs to be tackled. My demo M9 is sat in front of me on the table right now, the screen is on medium brightness and the only app running is SoundCloud. So why is the phone noticeably hot to touch, when my iPhone and S6 are not when doing the same thing?
The software on this handset is final - we have M9's in stock ready to go for the 31'st. How is this acceptable?
The interesting thing is that my M8 also gets really hot when I use it, screen on and charging. Almost too hot to hold.
It may well be an issue with the HTC One phones and not the SoC. I don't know.
Maybe restart the phone again to see any applications not optimized/run properly? I'm also worried about this issue, hope there is fix otw
There's just an OTA out now which fixes the overheating.
Link: http://tweakers.net/reviews/3921/4/...nder-de-motorkap-de-64bit-snapdragon-810.html
Just because a device is shippped with release software, that doesn't mean it's final software.
This question is very easy to answer.
The HTC One M9 uses a S810 wich get hot faster than others recent SoCs used in iPhone 6 and S6.
Same thing happens in the LG G Flex 2 and both use heavy throttling to prevent the phone being too warm.
We can discuss why the S810 get warmer than Apple A7 and Exynos 7 but essentially, I think it's because A7 use less core with a lower frequency and Exynos 7 use a 14nm FinFET manufacturing process.
jaaystott said:
Before anyone accuses me of bashing, bringing up things that have already previously been discussed, or just plain wants a go - I'm a huge HTC fan and adore their phones.
So I work for O2 in the UK as a Guru, I get to play with phones a lot - in fact it's all I do. From the moment I picked up the M9, I've decided it's the one for me over the S6 and Edge. There are, however, some issues. We all know that the camera isn't the best, the BoomSound may be a step back this year, but there's one thing that's really bugging me and concerning me. Overheating.
Overheating and the S810 has been covered a lot. However, it's a real issue and it needs to be tackled. My demo M9 is sat in front of me on the table right now, the screen is on medium brightness and the only app running is SoundCloud. So why is the phone noticeably hot to touch, when my iPhone and S6 are not when doing the same thing?
The software on this handset is final - we have M9's in stock ready to go for the 31'st. How is this acceptable?
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Please check if there is an update available. The issue should've been fixed.
The M9 has been shown to run hot, even after the thermal throttling "hotfix", pun intended (hotter than its competition). This isn't even disputed anymore.
Why? I don't know, but damn, am I curious.
One suggestion is that they have processor hotspots not being dealt with due to a high localized power density... so while the SoC power is OK, two or more hotspots in a localized area are exacerbating the situation (they quickly make the situation run out of control).
It only take one hotspot to trip the Tjunction profile. The rest of the SoC could be running fine. And this is either a problem with the Thermal Profiling and Cooling Spec (design or data sheet) or the Snapdragon 810 itself.
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HTC One M9 - 41.7C
LG G3 - 42.6C
That's not hotter than competition. That's within the comptetion.
I can't help but think it is an issue with some handsets. I've read reviews that state that it isn't an issue and reviews that show some concern.
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@th3
HTC One M9 - 41.7C
LG G3 - 42.6C
That's not hotter than competition. That's within the comptetion.
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You chose the hottest one?
If you read the major reviews, they still state it runs very skin warm.
M8, S6 and IP6 are the M9 competition. And upcoming G4. G3 isn't.
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@th3 - yes, because what you said was incorrect. Also, the difference between hottest and coolest is 3.6C. That's not a lot.
jaaystott said:
Before anyone accuses me of bashing, bringing up things that have already previously been discussed, or just plain wants a go - I'm a huge HTC fan and adore their phones.
So I work for O2 in the UK as a Guru, I get to play with phones a lot - in fact it's all I do. From the moment I picked up the M9, I've decided it's the one for me over the S6 and Edge. There are, however, some issues. We all know that the camera isn't the best, the BoomSound may be a step back this year, but there's one thing that's really bugging me and concerning me. Overheating.
Overheating and the S810 has been covered a lot. However, it's a real issue and it needs to be tackled. My demo M9 is sat in front of me on the table right now, the screen is on medium brightness and the only app running is SoundCloud. So why is the phone noticeably hot to touch, when my iPhone and S6 are not when doing the same thing?
The software on this handset is final - we have M9's in stock ready to go for the 31'st. How is this acceptable?
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The display and the battery performance are also worse.
I think Qualcomm has tried to cover the problem as much as they could but it's very obvious that they have screwed up with this processor, that they're even starting to talk about the "much better much cooler" S815 already.
It's not HTC's problem (nor was it LG's when they tried to pin it on LG earlier), it's the processor. All HTC (or LG) can do is try to cut the load on the processor and basically run it at lower speeds so it doesn't get too hot. Obviously that will impact the performance, but that's all they can do with the software updates. They will just try to find the right balance between temperature and performance.
I was avoiding the S6 because of the Exynos not being favored in the Rom-developing community. But the rumors-turned-facts about the 810 SoC have me worried. Not particularly blaming Qualcomm, but it seemed like this issue has had almost half a year to be ironed out.
I think the most troubling is that I've read the SoC's clock speed has been reduced to lower overheating, and the thing still overheats. So even if you've been waiting nearly 15 months for Snapdragon 810 like me because they said it'd be a beast, its disappointing to know that having the chip run ans intended might melt your phone.
Also even if early reviews are to be taken with a grain of salt, I've been hearing about underclocking, overheating, screen and boomsound quality being a step back from the M8's, and camera being not that great. I'm positive in time they might fix alot of the issues the early releases have been suffering from, but I am not one to wait many months longer for those updates. Just the updates to get a new android version can be grueling, so I can't imagine waiting for an update to make the device finally comfortable to use. With the S6 just a few weaks away, without all the nasty rumors the M9's been having, I just might have to bite the bullet.
The good news, I hear Exynos is naturally better at emulated gaming which is something I always consider when buying a new mobile device. The bad news, it isn't Qualcomm, and I already bought screen protectors and cases for the M9, despite it not being out yet in America
Edit: I take back what I said about getting an S6. I did a search on release date, and it's released in India for $950 for the 32GB model. Unless they can make the 64GB model less than $720 in America, I'm not interested. Which isn't likely. I would have already had a Xiomi Mi Note 4 Pro if the damn thing wasn't impossible to get, and would have got a G Flex 2 if it came with more RAM.
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@th3 - yes, because what you said was incorrect. Also, the difference between hottest and coolest is 3.6C. That's not a lot.
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Read the reviews. What you initially suggested is wrong and so is your selective comparison against the worst, non-competitor. It's still running hot, as every major review says. Even though it's not too much hotter, I agree and now acceptable to hold, it's still hotter, and still warm to hold.
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@th3 Thermal fix update only got released recently (past few days). Reviews were done before this update.
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@th3 Thermal fix update only got released recently (past few days). Reviews were done before this update.
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So the previous update wasn't dealing with the thermal?
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@th3 Thermal fix update only got released recently (past few days). Reviews were done before this update.
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that update underclocked cpu to 1.6 ghz i wouldnt say that a "fix"
I believe with people finally getting the phone, we will see if this problem is solved.
For a week I am using this gorgeous handheld, tons of blowing away emotions - no any significant overheat yet..
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the software updates are, simply, throttling the chip to approx 1.5 it is no better than an m8, which I have ? Plus, Sense 7 will be on m8 "soon", so no need to upgrade.
Sense 7, custom, roms are available now.
NOT having "a go" at HTC, I've had about 7 different handsets in last 5 years.
Typing.......

think twice when you choose this device

Did you know the s6 doesnt suport HDMI to TV as it is possible with s3,s4,s5 even 3d, note 3, note 4. so you need chromecast also the s5,note 3 and note 4 have longer battery on same usage.
Another fact is that the 32 bit CPU in note 4 has a slightly higher score in futuremark benchmarks as the s6 means its GPU performs worse while both devices have the same screen resolution. The antutu score is just higher because its CPU performs better. The new tegra x1 has even twice the gpu performance as the s6 and will be in some devices this year.
Its not waterproof. Supports no SD card. U cant replace its battery. People report even Rotation issues after wireless Charing. Tw gets laggy as hell. & im pretty sure nobody noticed it that the only reason note 4 had no official lollipop update to make people buy the s6. Even s4 hat the update so dont claim.
It looks good. And is well built. But you dont build a fast car that cant fit its fuel Inside. So this devices is more a test, overpower experiment of samsung. This fall we will see the note 5 with redicilous 4k resolution. And its overpower again just to show that they "can", f(_)cks not given about the consumer & shots been fired from apple. Iphone 6 still almost the same performance with 1/3 of the ram s6 has.
By the way the new TV box by nvidea tegra x1 is already 4k. And it does handle doom3, crysis 3 and unreal engine4 easily. And yes its Android and we will see it on smartphones too.
At the moment note 4 is the better choice because the images will look sharper on it/ due larger screen, you will have more fun with it.
Yeah. I've been thinking double twice before bought the s6, love it. My s5 still rock steady as my backup if my s6 runs out of juice
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Here's the thing I'm sure people read specs as well as those of us who are more technically inclined read forums for comparison, so whats the point of this thread I'm sure people who buy an S6 know what they're getting by now.
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ok....
U really think people's haven't thought through before buy a new phone?
S6 5.1" smaller size, that people's prefer than Note 4 5.7" and other things, that makes people's to choose S6.
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Tegra....what a joke!
Buy a chromecast...problem solved
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So you wrote this thread to make people feeling bad who bought one? Ever realised that people actually did their research or not? BTW your s4 has equal score with benchmarking on the same OS version and standard rom? Lel....
Normally I don't reply on these idiotic posts.
But your slanter and crying about the S6 makes me more think like you want one but can't afford it? Correct me if I'm wrong but I seriously can't find a legitimate reason why you should qq so much about something you supposedly not like.
None of the 'downsides' you listed are concerns to me. It's really up to each buyer.
What kind of archaic world do we live in that we have to do HDMI out still? Man buy a chromecast or any miracast dongle on amazon.
S6 owner here, S3 as previous devices, my wife using I9505(search it if u dont know).
my aunty and uncle use N3, my best friends N4, this listed phone are all phone that i serviced phone consistancely, regarding what i know so far, N3 had quite less lag on default TW, only lag in gallery as everyone know(only whn its a lot of photo inside) and i dont see N4 having higher score in any benchmark app comparing to my S6, yet S6 TW rom really have the light apps vs N4...
i already installed a lot apps on my phone and i still running smooth, no heat up issues, battery last long enough as only 2550mAh vs S4 2600, SoT 5hrs vs 2.3hrs, 14nm vs 28nm, 50fps(1440p) vs 38fps(1080p) on antutu benchmark test.
Yet.. google officially claim that bug on android 5.0 will be solve in android 5.1. Im living in Malaysia, S4 i9500 already on Lollipop (no doubt), N3 also already got its Lollipop update last week.
ram vs performance, did anyone say that ram mean performance, what do you mean by almost the same performance with 1/3ram they got. Comparing different platform is quite not fair as u should know its different in many point, take a window mobile n compare then?
android can play in many ways, its not like old time, 3GB of ram, multitasking is not a problem in S6. i dont think apple can do it... (jail breaken ipad can use split screen, try it and u will know why ram so big in S6). even my S3 got better ram vs ipad2.
In short, that up to everyone's point of view. i love S6 camera, the design of the phone. even i lost adcard support, but usb otg available for all android phone, i lost change able battery, but i just need to charge below 1Hour, because 1Hour give 90% Battery. With minimum 5Hours of SoT daily usage is good enough for me, including 2hours on CC or SW(both online Games).
the s6 is stop gap phone for me, waiting for the note5 because i broke my previous phone. The S6 is a very nice phone though, nicest one I ever had
could please some mod close this idiot topic that steals space to other ppl n devs, thanks
One thing you can't level at this phone is lag. TW is still perfectly snappy on mine since I ditched Nova again for it. Apps reload but as long as you have animations on default, by the time the app is on screen it's reloaded.
The screen issues I have were present on Note 4 anyway.
As for using it with a TV, not interested.
nadejo said:
Did you know the s6 doesnt suport HDMI to TV as it is possible with s3,s4,s5 even 3d, note 3, note 4. so you need chromecast also the s5,note 3 and note 4 have longer battery on same usage.
Another fact is that the 32 bit CPU in note 4 has a slightly higher score in futuremark benchmarks as the s6 means its GPU performs worse while both devices have the same screen resolution. The antutu score is just higher because its CPU performs better. The new tegra x1 has even twice the gpu performance as the s6 and will be in some devices this year.
Its not waterproof. Supports no SD card. U cant replace its battery. People report even Rotation issues after wireless Charing. Tw gets laggy as hell. & im pretty sure nobody noticed it that the only reason note 4 had no official lollipop update to make people buy the s6. Even s4 hat the update so dont claim.
It looks good. And is well built. But you dont build a fast car that cant fit its fuel Inside. So this devices is more a test, overpower experiment of samsung. This fall we will see the note 5 with redicilous 4k resolution. And its overpower again just to show that they "can", f(_)cks not given about the consumer & shots been fired from apple. Iphone 6 still almost the same performance with 1/3 of the ram s6 has.
By the way the new TV box by nvidea tegra x1 is already 4k. And it does handle doom3, crysis 3 and unreal engine4 easily. And yes its Android and we will see it on smartphones too.
At the moment note 4 is the better choice because the images will look sharper on it/ due larger screen, you will have more fun with it.
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The 2 things I put in bold in your message just kill your credibility.
My S6 is full of apps, rooted and customized like hell, yet I've never seen it lag (not even a bit, so the "like hell" seems completely bias).
About the benchmark, you really want to chose the single benchmark that suits what you want to say to prove your point?
What about the fact that every single other GPU benchmark (GFXBench,...) give is completely in favor of the S6 (by far)? Yeah I guess you don't really want to talk about those
What is OP trying to achieve here? Theres already a thread about things like that.
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What kind of archaic world do we live in that we have to do HDMI out still? Man buy a chromecast or any miracast dongle on amazon.
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I am absolutely not taking sides with the OP here, but I have to say that I was a bit annoyed that Samsung removed the HDMI out for the S6.
Serious question: I often go on holiday to a house which has no wifi, can I somehow still use chromecast to stream films from the S6 to the TV in the house (the TV has HDMI ports)? I used to to this all the time with the MHL cable on my other android phones and it worked incredibly well.
Move along folks, nothing to see here. Just upping my post count before this thread gets locked.
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Move along folks, nothing to see here. Just upping my post count before this thread gets locked.
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Can I take your thanks?

Overall speed

Would you say that the Samsung Galaxy S9 is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Samsung Galaxy S9 exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Home button delays the same as in Galaxy S8, that's why you don't remove the physical one
I have owned the exynos variant for about 2 weeks. I use it having decreased the animation time and there is absolutely no stutter. I've come for the s7 which is no slouch and can feel that this is the most refined experience yet. You can't go wrong. I can't lie I had 'terrible' battery for about 1 and half weeks. But it's much better now.
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I have owned the exynos variant for about 2 weeks. I use it having decreased the animation time and there is absolutely no stutter. I've come for the s7 which is no slouch and can feel that this is the most refined experience yet. You can't go wrong. I can't lie I had 'terrible' battery for about 1 and half weeks. But it's much better now.
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How about the gpu performance?
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How about the gpu performance?
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Definitely no sloucher in gaming performance. Does not lack performance whatsoever, can handle all games including the Honkai Impact 3 at max settings with no fps drops. Its basically the second best gaming performer right now outperformed by the SD845. but although battery life is not bad, apparently SD845 is better in every way. This year i'd actually consider the SD845. What device do you currently own? Because that way i might advise you wait for the S10 where they will actually improve efficiently a lot with the new 7nm chips.
Edit: Don't get me wrong, i love the S9 even though i owned the S7 previously. The features it includes such as the Dolby Atmos supported stereo speakers, headphone jack and the great experience Touchwiz offers in my opinion. Touchwiz just looks better than stock android which otherwise is boring in my opinion and other manufacturers are still refining their experience. And if you don't like touchwiz? Get a launcher or even change your theme to your liking. Hopefully Samsung will increase the amount of software updates due to Project Treble support too.
It's just that depending on your device and its state, i'd wait for the S10 which i reckon will be the 'holy grail' (unless they somehow screw it up). By then performance wouldn't be a issue whatsoever and battery life should increase and hopefully capacity too.
Any more questions feel free to ask. I'm willing to help.
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Definitely no sloucher in gaming performance. Does not lack performance whatsoever, can handle all games including the Honkai Impact 3 at max settings with no fps drops. Its basically the second best gaming performer right now outperformed by the SD845. but although battery life is not bad, apparently SD845 is better in every way. This year i'd actually consider the SD845. What device do you currently own? Because that way i might advise you wait for the S10 where they will actually improve efficiently a lot with the new 7nm chips.
Any more questions feel free to ask. I'm willing to help.
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Woah thank you alot! Im having this kind of feeling where I am dissatisfied with the s9, especially with exynos, yet you made me calm. I got s5 from Dubai with Snapdragon which is surprising since SD is only available in US and in China, and this year, I hope that my model going to have on 13th of April is SD too. Im really excited! Anyways, coming from s5 to s9 is considerably a "good" upgrade, isnt? My screen is dying and it cant wait for s10 anymore :laugh:
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Woah thank you alot! Im having this kind of feeling where I am dissatisfied with the s9, especially with exynos, yet you made me calm. I got s5 from Dubai with Snapdragon which is surprising since SD is only available in US and in China, and this year, I hope that my model going to have on 13th of April is SD too. Im really excited! Anyways, coming from s5 to s9 is considerably a "good" upgrade, isnt? My screen is dying and it cant wait for s10 anymore :laugh:
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Most definitely, an upgrade from the s5 to s9 will be huge.
What i'd recommend you do to get around 4 and a half hours of screen on time is the following.
Turn off location services. Or revoke app permissions for any app that doesn't require it. Including Google maps because for some reason it tracks where you are constantly. That is if you prefer it on for Samsung find my phone.
Get a dark theme. And and try to keep your wallpapers dark once you've enabled it because for oled screens, only the required pixels turn on. I currently use Black_Edition_V2
Turn off NFC (unless you pay using your phone)
Go to Wifi, advanced (click the 3 dots on top right) and enable Wifi power saving mode. and disable turn on wifi automatically.
Enable power saving mode (Only turn on decreased 10% screen brightness, don't limit CPU or any of that.) Screen is super bright already so you won't notice a difference but apparently you get an extra hour of stand by time.
Turn on Dolby Atmos (it's off automatically for some reason)
Depending on your usage or preference, disable or enable always on display. I personally have it on a schedule.
Give it just over a week or so to learn your usage behaviour and once a week or so for the first month, discharge your phone fully and recharge fully.
Also what i'd recommend is turning on developer mode and putting animator duration scale to 0.5x. Your phone will feel much faster, and it'll be able to keep up so don't worry. This is your preference.
I might have missed some things, but this is what the basic changes are. But compared to the S5, it will be a beast. With all the android phones out there having notches, i reckon the S9 is still the best all in one device!
Otherwise enjoy your phone!!! :good:
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Most definitely, an upgrade from the s5 to s9 will be huge.
What i'd recommend you do to get around 4 and a half hours of screen on time is the following.
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Otherwise enjoy your phone!!! :good:
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Wow truly helpful! Im pretty sure alot will benefit as well from your post. Very informative. Thanks mate!
best and faster speed thanks a lot of <a herf="https://rojgarresult24.com/">vijay singh</a>
With the latest update to Pie, have noticed very good performance
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Most definitely, an upgrade from the s5 to s9 will be huge.
What i'd recommend you do to get around 4 and a half hours of screen
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Yes, changing s5 to s9 will be good, but I couldn't stop laughing at second sentence...
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7.5 hrs fhd content playback with gettube with wifi on, plus background download plus some other things(that took another 30 mins).
No battery savers, etc.
CrDroid 4.7, Ainur MK III, ViperFx 2.6.0.4., JDSP 1.9., Aimp 2.90. Soundset, that melts brain in action. Every player uses this snd driver's replacement set there(magisk+lowlevel setups for sound)...so.
F dolby bs and stock system.

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