will you get H+ speeds on at&t, or just 3g?
It has the 1700 and 1900mhz antenna so it will run HSPA+ on both ATT and TMo and NVMO's.
yes, at&t HSPA+ speed is 21mbps which is half speed than tmobile
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I have a tmobile vibrant phone (hardware only). According to the phone specs i SHOULD be able to get 3g signal with my fido sim card since the phone seems to support all the same frequencies as the Canadian i9000.... but i only get edge.
If you guys are getting 3G with fido or rogers sim cards, did you have to set anything special in the phone settings?
Thanks!
Vibrant T-mobile 3G runs on 1700
that is why you only get EDGE (2G)
Fido, Rogers & Bell runs on 850 & 1900 for 3G
On my way to work today this is what i saw in the network box.
inside my house - EDGE
Outside my house - 3G
back country roads to work - i saw just G or no signal (normal i loose signal with my iphone and blackberry on there)
at work - back on edge
So i DO get 3g somehow! or is it just teasing me by showing 3G?
i read somewhere that the t-mo vibrant does have 1900 as one of its 3g bands, so this is why your phone has been able to pick up 3g at times. the problem for you is that rogers/fido mainly use the 850 band. i had the nokia n97 mini that had the 1900 but no 850 and while driving around most of the gta i would get 3g, but when i went into buildings, houses, etc, it would drop to edge.
Maybe your phone supports 1900 and not 850 MHz? Or the oposite? That would explain why you would get bad UMTS coverage.
@hondaguy you were faster than me
boravr6 said:
I have a tmobile vibrant phone (hardware only). According to the phone specs i SHOULD be able to get 3g signal with my fido sim card since the phone seems to support all the same frequencies as the Canadian i9000.... but i only get edge.
If you guys are getting 3G with fido or rogers sim cards, did you have to set anything special in the phone settings?
Thanks!
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To my knowledge the T-Mobile Vibrant does not support the major Canadian 3g bands. It is quad band 2g, which is why you are able to get edge but it is only 2 band 3g, at least according to this spec sheet:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2439&c=samsung_sgh-t959_galaxy_s_vibrant
T-mobile uses the 1700 and 2100 UMTS bands for 3g, Bell/Rogers/Telus/Virgin/Fido use 850/1900 UMTS bands for 3g. Therefore the 3g radio on the Vibrant is not compatible with these networks.
However, WIND mobile uses the 1700/2100 UMTS bands for 3g and you can use unlocked T-Mobile phones to their full ability on Wind's network. Wind is only in major urban centres though so this may not help you if you're not in the city. Hopefully you are as Wind has a pretty sweet unlimited data plan!
http://shop.windmobile.ca/
On the other hand according this this article from Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/22/confirmed-galaxy-s-unlock-codes-are-stored-in-your-phone-vibra/
If they're right that the Vibrant is somehow capable of AT&T 3g, it would mean the phone has to be tri-band UMTS: 850, 1700, 2100 (or 1700,1900,2100) as AT&T uses the 850/1900 bands like Rogers/Bell/Telus.
This doesn't make sense to me why T-Mobile would do this. The 850/1900 bands are really only used in North America on competing carriers, so it doesn't give the phone "world" capabilities, the 2100 band does that. Why they would add a feature who's only purpose is to make the phone work on competitors' networks is a mystery to me but Engadget seems to have a picture that confirms it. If this is true than an unlocked Vibrant should technically be able to work on Rogers/Bell/Telus/Fido/Virgin 3g, but only if it is unlocked. I'm pretty sure that T-Mobile sells their phones SIM locked to their network, have you unlocked yours?
~Edit if it does have 1900 as the third band the above posters are correct in that you will get minimal 3g coverage as 850 is the primary in Canada.
yeah i wanted to switch to Wind Mobile for the $35 true unlimited data plan, until i found out they don't work with normal 850/1900/2100 phones
only 1700 / 2100
Hi All
I am visiting the USA in September for holiday and am doing a bit of travelling while i am out there. I was going to buy a prepaid sim to use with my SGS II which is sim unlocked. I am visiting Los Angeles, San Francisco and Vegas what network would you guys recommend for coverage and costs ?? it would have to be a GSM network.
Thanks
I would say T-mobile because they have a awesome pay as you go plan
I would say T-Mobile
T-Mobile and AT&T are the only ones compatible with your SIM. However the SGS2 is only going to get EDGE on T-Mobile if you're wanting data. It's compatible with the HSPA for AT&T however. From what I understand there really isn't a difference in price between the two for prepaid. Nothing to make a difference when you're taking an international trip anyway.
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T-Mobile and AT&T are the only ones compatible with your SIM. However the SGS2 is only going to get EDGE on T-Mobile if you're wanting data. It's compatible with the HSPA for AT&T however. From what I understand there really isn't a difference in price between the two for prepaid. Nothing to make a difference when you're taking an international trip anyway.
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European 3G bands are different than US ones. In Europe the UMTS band is operating on 2100MHz. AT&T operates it's 3G service on 850 and 1900 MHz.
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European 3G bands are different than US ones. In Europe the UMTS band is operating on 2100MHz. AT&T operates it's 3G service on 850 and 1900 MHz.
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Yeah but the SGS2 has the 1900MHz band in it, so it would work on AT&T's 3G network, but only on T-Mobile's EDGE.
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Yeah but the SGS2 has the 1900MHz band in it, so it would work on AT&T's 3G network, but only on T-Mobile's EDGE.
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You need both bands for AT&T 3G. 850 provides downlink. 1900 provides uplink. In Europe, 2110 is downlink and 2150 is uplink. It is normally just included in one spec of 2100MHz. The 850MHz band in this device would only provide 2G speeds.
AT&T is your best bet.
I've seen a lot of isues with phones on t-mobile locked on EDGE speed...
I was wondering if my phone, a galaxy s international (french) was compatible with 3G or maybe H+.
I can't seems to find any good informations...
Wikipedia : Dual band CDMA2000/EV-DO Rev. A 800 and 1,900 MHz;
WiMAX 2.5 to 2.7 GHz;
802.16e 2.5G (GSM/GPRS/EDGE): 850, 900, 1,700, 1,800, 1,900, and 2,100 MHz;
3G (HSDPA 7.2 Mbit/s, HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s): 900, 1,900, and 2,100 MHz;
but i think it include every version
Unfortunately your phone won't get 3G but you can get AT&T 3G. It's weird you have 1700 MHz 2G. I wonder if that could be unlocked for 3G? That's the only 3G frequency you are missing.
If you are asking about T-Mobile in the U.S. then perhaps...T-Mo/USA is re-farming some 1900 MHz for 3G operation in some select cities/locales. And your phone does support 900/1900/2100 MHz 3G, so in theory, and if in certain locations, then yes, you may be able T-Mo 3G via 1900 MHz.
From the press release:
As part of the company’s network modernization effort, T-Mobile also plans to launch 4G HSPA+ service in the 1900 MHz band in a large number of markets by the end of the year.
http://www.airportal.de/
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/07/tmob...omers-off-2g-network-with-upgrade-incentives/
I've heard about Los Angeles, New York City, Miami, Boston, Washington DC and there have been individual reports from many other locales.
AT&T does also have 3G on 1900 MHz in some locales: http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
But I am not sure if they have ceded some of these to T-Mo as part of the failed merger, and/or transitioned those to 850 MHz?
Both AT&T and T-Mo do offer pre-paid SIMs and services - and there are some MVNOs like StraightTalk reselling AT&T and T-Mo network access.
whats the Philly area hspa+ number
HSPA+ 42. Your phone's settings will list it as HSPA+: 15.
Parts of Philly have HSPA+ 42 on the 1900Mhz spectrum, as well. This generally means it should be good there.
thanks but I seem to get better speeds when it says hspa+ 10
I knew that TMobile's 4G was on 1700Mhz and they were expanding their network on 1900Mhz to attract unlocked ATT users. That being said, the coverage of 1900Mhz is smaller than 1700Mhz for sure.
According to the Note III spec on Tmobile, it didn't show 1700Mhz, does it mean that the Note 3 Tmobile version cannot work on 1700Mhz of TMobile but 1900Mhz only? Or, 4G LTE is only on 1900Mhz?