Anyone able to test if it will work? Or have any insight into whether it will or won't? (Have the necessary antennae etc)
what band does t-mobile use ? the DHD is 900/2100
Taken from here
3G (UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+) service by T-Mobile exclusively uses the AWS 1700/2100 MHz frequency-band, making it incompatible with other existing 3G UMTS/HSPA networks already established in the United States. On the 5th of January 2010, T-Mobile announced that it has upgraded its entire 3G network to HSPA 7.2 Mbit/s which is an improvement from its previous peak of 3.6 Mbit/s. T-Mobile also said that it plans to be the first U.S. carrier to deploy HSPA+ across its network by mid 2010. T-Mobile has finished HSPA+ trials in Philadelphia and has begun deploying HSPA+ across its network, HSPA+ is still available in Philadelphia. HSPA+ 21 service is now available to over 100 Million POPS.
Frequencies used on the T-Mobile USA Network
Frequency Protocol Class Notes
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G Non-native accessible via roaming agreement
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G Largest network in the United States
1700/2100 MHz UMTS/WCDMA/HSPA/HSPA+ 3G Uses AWS Auctioned Spectrum
Hi guys! Thought I would put this here since I saw from the past few weeks about some people having signal issues with the HTC One.
Unfortunately HTC updated their HTC One page with the new frequency bands list.
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: : 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSDPA 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one/#specs
To the australian people who preordered their phones from EU. It is indeed official now that 850mhz is not supported.
*Australian on the 850MHz carrier here*
On one hand, I'm glad HTC acknowledged this and I've have been put out of my misery. On the other, I want to do a facepalm at HTC.
I understand how 850MHz testing of the European model could have been deprioritised. And I still believe HTC should be supported for coming out with a great phone at a time of trouble (possibly as many articles on their profit report as phone reviews!), but boy are they making it hard for themselves. They are not a new company. What's different about this phone vs the other internationally available in different variants phones they've released?
I have a quiet chuckle every so often about the saga of getting this phone. Excitement, delay, delay, worry about 850MHz support, dispatch!, oh what it won't work?!?, return, wait for local launch, to be continued...
You wouldn't happen to know what type of NFC it has?
Looked at GSM arena, no where does it go in to any depth on the NFC...
Cheers,
deeevan said:
*Australian on the 850MHz carrier here*
On one hand, I'm glad HTC acknowledged this and I've have been put out of my misery. On the other, I want to do a facepalm at HTC.
I understand how 850MHz testing of the European model could have been deprioritised. And I still believe HTC should be supported for coming out with a great phone at a time of trouble (possibly as many articles on their profit report as phone reviews!), but boy are they making it hard for themselves. They are not a new company. What's different about this phone vs the other internationally available in different variants phones they've released?
I have a quiet chuckle every so often about the saga of getting this phone. Excitement, delay, delay, worry about 850MHz support, dispatch!, oh what it won't work?!?, return, wait for local launch, to be continued...
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I'm in the same position here, buggered cos i was so excited. Plus only being able to realise this in the last day or so, now i'm probably now at the end of a very long wait list on the Harvey Norman preorders.
The HTC Unlocked from the US site has the following information:
This HTC One® unlocked version comes with: 32GB of onboard memory and is SIM unlocked.
- HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
- GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
- LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
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From my understanding this works in Europe too, except for the LTE?
Frequencies:
900 / 1800 MHz GSM, GPRS, EDGE
2100 MHz UMTS, HSDPA, HSPA+, DC-HSPA+
900 / 1800 MHz LTE
As I pretty don't much care about 4G/LTE the US unlocked will work otherwise without any problems, right?
Yes you are correct!
Other thank the UK variant not having 850mhz HSDPA frequency all bands from 2g to HSPA should be compatible worldwide.
Corduroy-21 said:
The HTC Unlocked from the US site has the following information:
From my understanding this works in Europe too, except for the LTE?
Frequencies:
900 / 1800 MHz GSM, GPRS, EDGE
2100 MHz UMTS, HSDPA, HSPA+, DC-HSPA+
900 / 1800 MHz LTE
As I pretty don't much care about 4G/LTE the US unlocked will work otherwise without any problems, right?
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snowblind2142 said:
You wouldn't happen to know what type of NFC it has?
Looked at GSM arena, no where does it go in to any depth on the NFC...
Cheers,
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It has the NXP PN544 chip with its usual level of support it seems. Unlike the S4, it should therefore support Mifare tags without issues.
Kind of curious...
The GN3 appears to support the frequencies of the various carriers included. Perhaps making the device portable from Carrier to Carrier.
Looking at the images on Verizon, it doesn't appear to have any Verizon markings.
Anyone have any idea if the carriers are going to bother with hacks like for example like Verizon did on the GN2 (removed a bunch of functions and hardware modifications).
I'm on Verizon now but leaning on moving to another carrier if the Verizon "version" has been crippled again. I'm also leaning on a non-contract purchase since I think the various plans are going to be in flux over the next year.
krelvinaz said:
Looking at the images on Verizon, it doesn't appear to have any Verizon markings.
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You didn't think you'd escape, did you?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Galaxy+...uId=1951103&st=note3&cp=1&lp=3&contract_desc=
As for changes, VZW really did a hack job on the N2 s/w wise. I haven't followed their SGS4 to see if it followed in the N2's footsteps. I'm getting the AT&T N3 which will be my first carrier phone in over two years. If I can find an international LTE version that supports their bands (EU and Latin America don't so far) my AT&T N3 will be on eBay. I don't care what the carriers add, it can be disabled and with 32GB of RAM it's not that big a deal. I'm just afraid of them screwing around with some of the international functionality for no good reason. That and potentially waiting a lifetime between updates. You CDMA guys (Sprint and VZW) don't really have much choice other than to take what's doled out. So far the same applies to getting LTE on T-Mobile and AT&T.
will they get that ugly tramp stamp on the home button too?
BarryH_GEG said:
You didn't think you'd escape, did you?
As for changes, VZW really did a hack job on the N2 s/w wise. I haven't followed their SGS4 to see if it followed in the N2's footsteps. I'm getting the AT&T N3 which will be my first carrier phone in over two years. If I can find an international LTE version that supports their bands (EU and Latin America don't so far) my AT&T N3 will be on eBay. I don't care what the carriers add, it can be disabled and with 32GB of RAM it's not that big a deal. I'm just afraid of them screwing around with some of the international functionality for no good reason. That and potentially waiting a lifetime between updates. You CDMA guys (Sprint and VZW) don't really have much choice other than to take what's doled out. So far the same applies to getting LTE on T-Mobile and AT&T.
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Those are just covers. Replace the cover and the marking is gone. Unlike many phones, the covers don't have antennas in them.
Specs from the phone:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
Data: LTE Cat4 Downlink 150 Mbit/s, LTE Cat3/4 Uplink 50 Mbit/s, HSDPA+ (4G) 42.2 Mbit/s, HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s, UMTS, EDGE, GPRS
Showing radio coverage of all the carriers.. which is why I am asking.
BarryH_GEG said:
I haven't followed their SGS4 to see if it followed in the N2's footsteps.
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They didn't change any thing hardware wise on the VZN S4 just software
BarryH_GEG said:
You CDMA guys (Sprint and VZW) don't really have much choice other than to take what's doled out. So far the same applies to getting LTE on T-Mobile and AT&T.
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Sad panda :crying:
krelvinaz said:
Those are just covers. Replace the cover and the marking is gone. Unlike many phones, the covers don't have antennas in them.
Specs from the phone:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
Data: LTE Cat4 Downlink 150 Mbit/s, LTE Cat3/4 Uplink 50 Mbit/s, HSDPA+ (4G) 42.2 Mbit/s, HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s, UMTS, EDGE, GPRS
Showing radio coverage of all the carriers.. which is why I am asking.
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Here's AT&T
Here's the UK, LTE bands aren't identified on Samsung, Clove, or Handtec's sites
Here's the EU and LTA from Negri
So AT&T dropped 900MHz UMTS for some reason and is only using 4 LTE bands when the N3's radio supports 6. The EU versions of the S-800 N3 would work fine in the U.S. on 2/3G but not LTE and only VZW branded phones work on their CDMA network. I don't know what question you're really asking as VZW's radio is going to be different from those identified so far because it's CDMA/GSM (for LTE) and will have VZW's LTE bands making it "non-standard" to anything else out there. Same thing for AT&T's. There's some 900MHz frequency in Europe, LATAM, Asia, and Australia so I have no idea why AT&T would omit 900MHz and limit their customer’s roaming options (or the ability to use their N3 unlocked with another carrier's SIM) in those markets. With Sprint being CDMA/LTE like VZW and on their own LTE frequencies and T-Mobile still depending on 1700MHz in most markets no U.S. N3 will be “pure” from a radio perspective; at least not compared to what Samsung ships "stock" everywhere else in the world.
Info from VZW Phone they are selling...
CDMA Data – 1x and EVDO Rev0/RevA
LTE: B13 (700MHz)
Global Ready (GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900; HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
When Looking at the pre-purchase page, it asks an interesting question.
Do you want to use this phone Internationally?
wonder if that means they have to unlock it for you to do so?
Wireless charging
krelvinaz said:
Kind of curious...
The GN3 appears to support the frequencies of the various carriers included. Perhaps making the device portable from Carrier to Carrier.
Looking at the images on Verizon, it doesn't appear to have any Verizon markings.
Anyone have any idea if the carriers are going to bother with hacks like for example like Verizon did on the GN2 (removed a bunch of functions and hardware modifications).
I'm on Verizon now but leaning on moving to another carrier if the Verizon "version" has been crippled again. I'm also leaning on a non-contract purchase since I think the various plans are going to be in flux over the next year.
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Yeah I am on Verizon as well and really wondering are they going to block the wireless charging again? Any one know? The branding does not really bother me I would do same if it was my company.
Thinking of putting my note II on ebay and picking up the III. Think there are users out there that would love a rooted Jedi x free wifi tethering phone but that just might be because I love it so much.
VZW International Option
krelvinaz said:
Info from VZW Phone they are selling...
CDMA Data – 1x and EVDO Rev0/RevA
LTE: B13 (700MHz)
Global Ready (GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900; HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
When Looking at the pre-purchase page, it asks an interesting question.
Do you want to use this phone Internationally?
wonder if that means they have to unlock it for you to do so?
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If you check the box when ordering you will be given a choice of which international plan you want to subscribe to. This can be added later, if you don't want to incur the cost upon activation.
Are the Specs for the note 3 On Sprints network released yet?
I plan to get a note 3 with umts 900 from any carrier that supports it.
I hate that At&T always remove that.
Seems like the verizon version will be unlocked.
I might get that and replace the back.
LTE and HSPA Frequencies for the AT&T and T-Mobile Variant
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/11/samsung-galaxy-note-3-reaches-the-fcc-in-att-and-sprint-forms/
Provides links to the FCC site for GN3 versions for AT&T/T-Mobile, Sprint and Verizon. This post is regarding supported frequencies. I focus only on the AT&T/T-Mobile model.
The hyperlink SM-N900T goes to the shared model for AT&T and T-Mobile at the FCC. The relevant document is the one called Test Report. Page 6 is where the supported frequencies are listed. For HSPA (WCDMA), it's 850, 1700/2100 and 1900 MHz. For LTE, it's 700 (the AT&T type 700, not Verizon's band), 850, 1700/2100 and 1900.
Apparently, the N900T is used by both carriers despite AT&T and T-Mobile websites giving conflicting specs. For example, T-Mobile's site http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note-3.html doesn't even specify the LTE frequency (scroll down to Specifications/International). But you can see from the Test Report to the FCC what they are. AT&T website doesn't even list AWS 1700/2100 presumably for business reasons but it is technically supported.
The hyperlink SM-N900W8 on that Engadget page is for Bluetooth. Ignore it.
There you go...the AT&T and T-Mobile models are interchangeable.
A cursory look at the Test Reports for the Sprint and Version models demonstrate exactly what is already known or expected.
StarTAC Fan said:
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There you go...the AT&T and T-Mobile models are interchangeable....
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Until you realized you need wifi calling because you can't get any service with T-Mobile
This is to follow up on my post yesterday.
In the links to the FCC filings, the documents called "Test Report" lists the following bands and frequencies. It's either on the first page or in the section called EUT Description of the relevant document for each of the carriers.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=736794&fcc_id=A3LSMN900A
AT&T version (SM-N900A) supports the following (GSM omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) This is of course different that Verizon's 700 MHz band.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=134996&fcc_id=A3LSMN900P
Sprint version (SM-N900P) supports the following (GSM/CDMA omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 25 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=566535&fcc_id=A3LSMN900T
T-Mobile vesion (SM-N900T) supports the following (GSM omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) Note this is also the band for AT&T but not Verizon which is band 13 700 MHz.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=956586&fcc_id=A3LSMN900V
Verizon version (SM-N900V) supports the following (GSM/CDMA omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 13 700 MHz (tx and rx) This is of course different that AT&T's 700 MHz band.
StarTAC Fan said:
In the links to the FCC filings, the documents called "Test Report" lists the following bands and frequencies. It's either on the first page or in the section called EUT Description of the relevant document for each of the carriers.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=736794&fcc_id=A3LSMN900A
AT&T version (SM-N900A) supports the following (GSM omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) This is of course different that Verizon's 700 MHz band.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=134996&fcc_id=A3LSMN900P
Sprint version (SM-N900P) supports the following (GSM/CDMA omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 25 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=566535&fcc_id=A3LSMN900T
T-Mobile vesion (SM-N900T) supports the following (GSM omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) Note this is also the band for AT&T but not Verizon which is band 13 700 MHz.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=956586&fcc_id=A3LSMN900V
Verizon version (SM-N900V) supports the following (GSM/CDMA omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 13 700 MHz (tx and rx) This is of course different that AT&T's 700 MHz band.
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Looks like the T-mo version is leading the way as far as supported GSM bands is concerned. in addition, T-mo does not have a history of locking it's bootloaders. Getting the T-mo version and unlocking it to use ATT. (If the nexus 5 underwhelms)
With all the above said... It seems that TMO note 3 is the way to go..... Even with a At&t sim...... Do we know if it is unlocked ? Or will it need to be....... ??
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
Just wondering if anyone out there has ordered the TMO note 3 from Negri electronics that will be using a at&t sim?? It says on their site that its unlocked......
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
sk8ordie0 said:
Just wondering if anyone out there has ordered the TMO note 3 from Negri electronics that will be using a at&t sim?? It says on their site that its unlocked......
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
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I am strongly tempted to do just that. I'm so frieken stuck between this and the z1 though. IDK what to do!!! Halp!
sk8ordie0 said:
Just wondering if anyone out there has ordered the TMO note 3 from Negri electronics that will be using a at&t sim?? It says on their site that its unlocked......
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Yup, ordered on the 17th.
Ok means if i buy the Note 3 for T-Mo unlock from negri i can use without any problems with AT&T using LTE,HSPA,3G or phone calls?
I am about to purchase a Samsung Galaxy S5 GSM unlocked from HSN (the reason from hsn is because i can pay for the phone overtime instead of paying right up front). I am currently on Tmobile with my lg that uses hspa+ 42 and i wanted to know if i would get tmobile "4g" 42 megabit speeds on the S5 considering the fact its international with an octa-core processor?? Or would I be stuck with edge/2g??
Bands:
T-Mobile version: HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900T
G900H HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
The only difference is the 1700 band that is missing from the H variant.
This thread might help, I think that by having the 1900 band you'll be OK for HDSPA if you are in an area that has refarmed towers, but better read it all the way through (I didn't)
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/39007
You won't have LTE of course.
I'm currently using a Samsung Galaxy S4 I9505 International (GSM card)
I'm now getting data speeds of 0.13 Bps. That can't continue.
I'm When I spoke to T-Mobile support they told me that the 1900 Mhz spectrum (LTE) is being dropped for the new 600 Mhz spectrum. This is for 5G. They advised me to get a phone that has 600 Mhz (phones not available yet) and 2100 Mhz spectrum. In the data below you can see that my phone can use 1900 Mhz for 2G and 3G. This is a mess. Apparently the 1900 Mhz my phone used to use (and provided quite good data speeds) has already been dropped, but the 600 Mhz I will need is not yet in phones currently being sold. What do you recommend I do?
The changes are related to T-Mobile aquiring new frequencies so they can improve service and data speeds. This implies that T-Mobile dropped a frequency which my phone used (1900 Mhz?), and which used to give me quite good data speeds.
So my slow data speeds are the result of changes made by T-Mobile. I brought my own phone, and did not purchase from T-Mobile, so they didn't offer me a new phone cheap.
My research shows me that my area has 700 Mhz LTE. But apparently my phone can't use that.
"T-Mobile Lights Up Greater Boston Area With Extended Range LTE"
https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-...eater-boston-area-with-extended-range-lte.htm
http://maps.spectrumgateway.com/t-mobile-700-mhz-spectrum.html
Wikipedia
Samsung Galaxy S4 - Wikipedia
2G: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz, GSM / GPRS / EDGE
3G: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz, UMTS / HSPA+
4G: 800, 850, 900, 1800, 2100, 2600 MHz
Get a device that uses US LTE bands. Your only other option is to risk bricking your S4 to add US bands to its radio chip.