Will the Nexus 4 drive down the second hand phone market? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I looked today and my HTC One S is currently going for around £200 on auction sites. Considering the massive spec difference someone would get by spending an extra £70 and picking up a brand new Nexus 4 do you think the second hand market will be affected by it's release?
I know that if I had £200 to spend I wouldn't be looking at second hand flagship phones from other manufacturers unless they were way cheaper.

roakes said:
I looked today and my HTC One S is currently going for around £200 on auction sites. Considering the massive spec difference someone would get by spending an extra £70 and picking up a brand new Nexus 4 do you think the second hand market will be affected by it's release?
I know that if I had £200 to spend I wouldn't be looking at second hand flagship phones from other manufacturers unless they were way cheaper.
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That depends on how many Nexus 4 sells worldwide. Generally Nexus devices are not as popular as the OEM flagships and google also does not push for more sales with huge marketing campaigns. That said, I believe Nexus 4 will sell much better that it's predecessors and it will have only a slight impact on the price of other phones.

Imo only in the play store markets. In other countries no, because its price will be the same as the other flagships.

Hopefully. I'm taking both Galaxy Nexus and (hopefully, if nothing major screws up) Nexus 4 back to China in December. I'm hoping to get some decent money out of my Galaxy Nexus.

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That depends on how many Nexus 4 sells worldwide. Generally Nexus devices are not as popular as the OEM flagships and google also does not push for more sales with huge marketing campaigns. That said, I believe Nexus 4 will sell much better that it's predecessors and it will have only a slight impact on the price of other phones.
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Google did a pretty good job advertising the Nexus 7. I read an article somewhere that Google & ASUS were selling over 1,000,000 N7 tablets a month.

The Galaxy S3 at Best Buy went to $250 trade in down from $300 last week.
But Best Buy had a sale on the S3 last week. Plus prices drop all the time. No real reason.

I put my Gnex on eBay as soon as I saw the price of the N4. I figured that as soon as news of the N4 prices filtered down to used Gnex buyers, then it would depress the price of the phone.
The jury is still out whether it will affect non Nexus phone prices in the short term, but I'm sure that top end phones will become far cheaper over time because of this move.
So, my Gnex has now gone, and I'm back on my old Desire, at first I thought I'd gone back to the stone age, but a decent Miui based ROM sorted that out...to an extent.

Since it's currently Google Play only that have those prices, i doubt it will have any real effect on prices in general
It's sad, i was hoping we could get back to the day where iPhone was the "only smartphone" and Android was trying to gain market share, back then the prices for android highend smartphones were around 400€.
But as Android gained popularity it started jumping up to 500€, and now 600€.
It's no secret that the phones themselves cost around 200$ to make, so i'm really hoping that someone will still taking notice to Google's Prices, especially as they start expanding across europe.

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Galaxy Tab, Overpriced? yes or no

it costs $215 to manufacture, there will be a bit more in distribution and software.
http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns-Manufacturing-and-Pricing/News/Pages/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-Carries-$205-Bill-of-Materials-iSuppli-Teardown-Reveals.aspx
that's a resounding yes from me
I saw this earlier and I understand the obscene profit margins are commonplace so I have disregarded it. I think it should have been cheaper definitely. I feel if someone is just in the market for a tablet and isn't really into Android it wouldn't get a second look as it doesn't have any SUPER AMAZING BLEEDING EDGE killer functions to take the shine off the iPad and I don't think it offers enough new things to appeal to a lot of hardcore android followers. Galaxy S having problems certainly hasn't helped.
Market share = excellent hardware + near enough faultless software + 20% lower than apple product
They should have thrown in the Keyboard at this price and maybe Co-Pilot or something
I think the Tab is a LITTLE overpriced, but not monstrously.
The best way to assess this matter is to compare it to its contemporaries, such as the iPad. Now, I won't go in to a full comparison here, but I wil simply say that the Tab does more than the iPad, and yet costs about as much as one.
Not too shabby
I think it should be $100 cheaper ($400 wifi, $500 3G).
But considering the current state of competition, it's no surprise they are charging as much as they are.
Why don't you make is possible to vote for this?
I really don't think it's overpriced. It's a bit cheaper than its immediate rival, the 3G+WiFi iPad, and around here at least, that puts it right in the same ballpark as most of the other newer higher end phones.
The Tab goes for between 900 and 1100$ here in Switzerland, which is almost identical to the prices of the various iPhone 4 models. Galaxy S goes for a bit less (around 100$ less in most places). Considering that the Tab is clearly the most attractive of the available devices, being near the top of the price scale seems justified.
Btw, if google is to be trusted in this matter, it seems the manufactoring costs for the iPhone 4 are around 180$. Again, seems to be comparable.
for it is cheap here in indonesia.. only about us$700 50$ cheaper than galaxy s and 100$ expensiver than iphone4
I got my tab for 650 euros. Similar ipad is 600.
It IS slightly too expensive, but the raw materials cost breakdown doesn't tell the whole story, you also have to consider
R&D
Internal Testing
Manufacturing
Shipping
Support
Local Taxes
Plus a healthy profit (we all want to make some money).
Considering all that, plus that I am happy to support Android vs Apple, I find it slightly too expensive, but not enough to make me change my mind.
Overpriced? Yes. Awesomeley awesome? Also yes.
But it really is a well-built, svelte device i would much rather carry with me than an ipad. Since i take my laptop (timelinex 3820tg) almost everywhere anyway, why would i want a device of similar size?
When the second gen tegra tablets arrive i will certaily get a 10 inch device to have at home. To play with in front of the telly or read papers on the loo. But for now this is the best mobile slate on the market, and i have no reservations about dishing out the $1200 they cost here in russia.
So good is the tab that i have even convinced a hardcore iphoney friend of mine to get one instead of an ipad. Hes over the moon with joy.
In Thailand a 16 GB version is the same price as the Samsung Galaxy S $772.6046 US.
If it was $500 US I would pick one up as soon as it was back in stock, But it seams there is high demand here so why not get as much as you can for you product while you can. We all know there will be a flood of Android devices soon then they will be a dime a dozen just like the apple I phone 3 is here now.
I find it slightly suspicious that iSuppli has decided it costs ~$10 to put the Tab together but hasn't quoted manufacturing costs in the past for other devices, just the price of components.
So, with that in mind, I'm going to base what I say purely on the estimated cost of parts.
So on top of that ~$205 value (which is in itself a rough estimate and may not be accurate), there's the cost of putting it together, distributing it, marketing it, R&D for both hardware and software and then a profit margin because, lets face it, Samsung are not a charity.
And that's just before we reach the price that Samsung are selling it on for, there's a whole extra layer of distribution and marketing costs for individual retailers plus their profit margin as well plus the possibility that there's a distributor between Samsung and the retailer, who will have their own costs and profit margin to add on too.
Comparing the cost of the parts to what we pay is a waste of time.
Comparing the value of the parts and the price we pay to other devices is a slightly better way of rating a product's value - the parts are worth more than the iPhone's but the Tab (here in the UK at least) costs about the same as the 16GB iPhone4 and less than the 32GB one.
What I will say though is that the plans being offered by UK networks for the Tab are a rip-off but that's a separate matter.
Picked up my Tab yesterday from PC World for £499 without contract/SIM, and that's bang on the price point I expected it to ship at. If you view the Tab as essentially a cell phone with a larger screen and battery, I'd say at that price point it comes in pretty favourably when compared to similar cell phones (e.g. Galaxy S, Desire HD etc).
I do love it when you get these teardowns that supposedly calculate the "cost" of a product, but in reality all this is the bill of materials, and fails to take into account everything else involved in designing, developing, sourcing, manufacturing, advertising, distributing, retailing, and supporting a product!
Make no mistake, Samsung will have to sell an awful lot of these to actually turn a profit on the line.
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Dave
I bought mine from Currys (which is a sister company to PC-World, both owned by Dixons Plc.). It cost 499 GBP/£ with a free voice/data SIM card (and dongle, in my case) on a rolling contract (15 GBP/month, but can be deactivated and restarted at any time). It's expensive, but on a par with other high-end smartphones and tablets.
I will try the 10" Advent Vega tablet when it comes out on November 18 (250 GBP Tegra 2 device), but to be honest I am really pleased with the 7" form factor, which manages to be pocketable whilst offering a touch experience that doesn't hurt my eyes after 10 minutes (unlike small mobile phone displays).
A note about the Galaxy Tab display: there are mixed reviews, some say the view angles, color saturation and crispness are great, others the contrary (they even say there is ghosting due to the slow refresh rate). I think both camps are right: this is clearly not the best display on the touch market (the IPS screen on the iPhone / iPad just looks awesome !), but conversely it is clearly amongst the better ones. The Android firmware offers settings in the configuration panel to adjust the white/black balance and saturation. The manual brightness adjustment also needs to be used to get the best results depending on the environment. As for ghosting: yeah, the fonts sometimes look a little jagged when scrolling screens, but it's really not a big deal at all (it's not perceivable with most apps, to be honest).
I bought mine from currys.co.uk @ £499 through quidco so got a voucher for £25 off plus 3% cashback. So totally I paid £464.
However I still think its a bit (not much) too expensive. If Samsumg could have sold it @ £399 - £429 it would be perceived as much more value for money by the masses. I totally agree with previous poster about the UK networks overcharging for the Tab. Total cost of ownership over a 2yr contract totalling over £1k is taking the piss.
Now for me the Tab ticks all the boxes so even @ £499 I'd still buy it. One complaint I have is that Samsung could have at least thrown in some sort of protective case even it was one of those cheap neoprene type ones.
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Total cost of ownership over a 2yr contract totalling over £1k is taking the piss.
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That's the networks.
They'll happily subsidise a ~£500 phone down to nothing up-front on a £30-35/month 24 months contract, so why should a tablet cost so much more?
Depends how we look at it...
When my SGS was released, the cheapest I could find for 16gb version was £530
So placing it within the mobile market, which they have done, gives it quite an attractive price point at £500.
However, I was expecting, and still expect to see tablets placed within the laptop market at half the price of this.
i will also pay $1000+ for the rumored galaxy tab 2, especially if it has amoled tech
I currently own the HTC HD2 it cost me £499 but I brought the Samsung Galaxy tab because I am so disappointed with Microsoft’s market place. The tab cost me £475 to buy SIM free. It is an amazing product the screen is bright and big enough to use in all types of environments. I am still finding my way around the product having used only windows mobile phones but Android is easier to use.
The Android market place is fantastic lots of free software to try; I have downloaded several and removed them without crashing the operating system.
The price of Samsung Galaxy Tab is value for money when comparing it with the IPAD and my HTC HD 2 because I now only carry one device instead of two.
I think they priced it as they did so that when they release the next version they can keep the price the same but add SAMOLED, more RAM, and more internal storage...making it a relative bargain.
The price does seem a little high for the current iteration, but it will still sell well because it is a capable device that offers an open approach to media.
peer pressure
If the iphone and other high end phones cost around £500 there is no way they can price a quality item as the tab below those so early.
sadly that is how the market works

Australian Nexus 4 price if I trade in my Nexus S?

As the title says, I was wondering how much the Nexus 4 would cost if I traded in my Nexus S at any store in Australia that would sell this beast.
The Nexus 4 that I want is the 16GB version which will be $400 in Australia, but could anyone give a rough estimate of the Nexus 4 price if I traded in my Nexus S for it?
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Places actually trade phones here? Never noticed that... Anywho, if they did, I'd really doubt they'd give you too much off considering it's trade-in (my guess is as good as yours but don't expect any more than what you'd get by selling the Galaxy Nexus yourself). I mean take a look at game consoles, they have horrid trade-in deals and just aren't worth it unless it's really just collecting dust.
If you sold it yourself, you could probably sell one $200-$250 at the moment depending on how quickly you want it to sell. Maybe use that for an estimate on the trade-in price.
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Places actually trade phones here? Never noticed that... Anywho, if they did, I'd really doubt they'd give you too much off considering it's trade-in (my guess is as good as yours but don't expect any more than what you'd get by selling the Galaxy Nexus yourself). I mean take a look at game consoles, they have horrid trade-in deals and just aren't worth it unless it's really just collecting dust.
If you sold it yourself, you could probably sell one $200-$250 at the moment depending on how quickly you want it to sell. Maybe use that for an estimate on the trade-in price.
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I agree to this previous post, I don't live in Australia but for us, european citizens, problematic is the same.
Google will sell the Nexus 4 for €350 including tax + approximately €10 S&H.
Some distributors are on this price, they are buying a new...new..new Nexus S without any defects €63.
Today, an average Nexus S can be sold around €150, €180 maximum.
Well for me, that's a fair price considering I'll get a lot of money for Christmas (Minimum $200) and that money + trading in Nexus S = barely any of my own money for the Nexus 4. And I know some stores that trade, otherwise, selling my Nexus S would be another option.
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Hopefully it's not like an EB Games trade-in and you get $5 off the price of the Nexus 4 when you trade in six old phones and a bunch of accessories with it, too! Haha. Which store would you go to to trade it in, though? I can't think of any stores in Australia that would let me trade in my older phone for a better price on a newer one. I think Mobicity do it but they are just an online store.
My first choice is JB Hi-Fi, and because they have the SGS 3 and Nexus 7, the chances are that they'll sell the Nexus 4. If they don't do trades, I might still buy it but $400 is pretty expensive for me. I was wishing that it would be $350 like it is in America, but Australia almost always gets a more expensive price
My second choice would be at my local shopping centre and keep searching until I find the right store. If I can't find a single store that sells the Nexus 4 and accepts trades, I'll just sell my Nexus S.
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My first choice is JB Hi-Fi, and because they have the SGS 3 and Nexus 7, the chances are that they'll sell the Nexus 4. If they don't do trades, I might still buy it but $400 is pretty expensive for me. I was wishing that it would be $350 like it is in America, but Australia almost always gets a more expensive price
My second choice would be at my local shopping centre and keep searching until I find the right store. If I can't find a single store that sells the Nexus 4 and accepts trades, I'll just sell my Nexus S.
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I don't believe JB do trade-ins for phones (I know they do for games). And about the price thing, it's really not that much more compared to America. We have GST included in the shown price whereas they don't so you have to add their state tax (not sure on the percentage but it comes out to be pretty close).
Hmmm... I might ask JB Hi-Fi about the Nexus 4 price :/
Then my other two options are:
1. Sell my Nexus S
2. See if JB Hi-Fi (Or any other store) can do any offers
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Hmmm... I might ask JB Hi-Fi about the Nexus 4 price :/
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The price should be about the same every (~$400 for the 16GB version and ~$350 for the 8GB one). Anywho, good luck!

Price drop prediction

I think the new iPad and especially the mini are going to really choke out the premium tablet segment. They are going to sell huge, especially with the timing with holidays.
I will not be surprised to see a price drop of at least $50 next month or early December. That is when I would get the 2014
My concern though is this would force the Android tablets further into the lower end segments that could mean middle road specs. ASUS might be selling the new 701 into a market segment that has very small remaining share. That assumes they get the Tegra 4 to behave as far as battery bleed and throttle issues.
Point in this being Apple will sell millions while Android OEs selling premium Android tablets would sell thousands due to small market share.
Its already gone from £479 to £439 on Amazon.co.uk.
It was £100 overpriced to start off with especially with a plastic exterior.
I was so ready to purchase this and have money burning a hole in my pocket. Already own an ipad min, ipad 4, nexus 7 2013 and wanted a full size Android tablet.
Considered the Z until its completely rubbish ppi screen was detailed and then eagerly waited the Note. Was extremelydis appointed in the build quality and design but more more horrified at the price. Will be waiting for news on the Nexus 10 whilst also buying an ipad air and retina mini.
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Its already gone from £479 to £439 on Amazon.co.uk.
It was £100 overpriced to start off with especially with a plastic exterior.
I was so ready to purchase this and have money burning a hole in my pocket. Already own an ipad min, ipad 4, nexus 7 2013 and wanted a full size Android tablet.
Considered the Z until its completely rubbish ppi screen was detailed and then eagerly waited the Note. Was extremelydis appointed in the build quality and design but more more horrified at the price. Will be waiting for news on the Nexus 10 whilst also buying an ipad air and retina mini.
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May I ask what you do with all of those tablets? Or are you just getting rid of the old (relatively speaking) ones once you buy a new one?
some of us are just collectors, lol. i do resell some or pass them down to other family members. since 2010 i've had a total 21 tablets and currently own a 2014, gn8, 500t, and 700t. the 500t is going to my daughter once i get around to repair the screen - it's the only tablet i ever bought insurance on and the only one i've ever dropped, lol.
the 8in is my main book reader, the 10.1 is my main web/multimedia tablet and the windows tablets i got as an experiment to see if i could do without a laptop (even though they're kinda laptop hybrids) and to see if i could do without android - i failed that miserably lol.
I just hope the iPad mini's price will drop. I love it but i can't afford to buy it.
I don't think the price of this tablet will drop much before the end of this year after the Samsung Perks package expires.
I am in need of a new tablet and the 2014 note 10.1 was going to be that device but the reviews and user experiences have swayed me away. I might reconsider if the price drops but with new devices like the ipad air/mini released and the upcoming nexus 10, the choices have become relatively overwhelming.
I am heavily invested in the android ecosystem with apps and games so warranting a switch to the "dark side" may be hard. Although the design and tablet specific apps are tempting. It seems like a good combination to have, I just dont want to have to re-purchase apps on ios and android. Anybody have this combinationof devices?
I think the nexus 10 is calling my name and I will most likely end up with it assuming the bugs and issues present on the first gen dont make there way to the 2nd gen.
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Looks like a drop has already happened. Price went from $600/$650 to $550/$600 at Amazon & Best Buy.
As far as the Nexus, a lack of sd slot keeps me away. I only have the iPad since I could get 64GB for the iPad 3 and now have a 128GB iPad 4. Media and games are too big for smaller storage and I HATE the cloud. Local content has "100% data coverage and range" and better on battery life.
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Looks like a drop has already happened. Price went from $600/$650 to $550/$600 at Amazon & Best Buy.
As far as the Nexus, a lack of sd slot keeps me away. I only have the iPad since I could get 64GB for the iPad 3 and now have a 128GB iPad 4. Media and games are too big for smaller storage and I HATE the cloud. Local content has "100% data coverage and range" and better on battery life.
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$550/600 was the starting price. No price drop yet...
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$550/600 was the starting price. No price drop yet...
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Dope! :silly: So in my mind, there already was one
This tablet is actually worth the money being asked for it, so you can wait to watch the prices drop or just buy it.
The original note 10.1 was 16 gigabytes was 499 when it debuted 1 year ago. Now the second generation came outand original drooped to 450. The note 10.1 very is unique and has no direct competition as in capacitive pen.
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Yeah, I wouldn't expect a price drop any time soon... maybe in 6 months at best. It took the Note 8 about 6 months to drop a whopping $20, lol. Samsung is pretty stubborn with their pricing.

Sagging sales...really?

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/11/21/lg-release-g-pad-tablet-more-overseas-markets.html
Gee, I wonder why sales are below expected in the US? Could it be Best Buy's epic failure at promoting the product? The people at BB should be running the NSA; they're better at keeping secrets.
Maybe LG should just rename it the Area 51 Pad...lots of people have heard of it but BB continues to deny it's existence.
No kidding! The Best Buy help weren't aware of it and took forever to find it in "the cage".
LG has officially jumped the shark.
I don't know who is to blame LG or Best Buy or both but it does make you scratch you head in wonder how they plan to sell this tablet based on current marketing an store display. Why give Best Buy an exclusive if they don't plan to display it and sell it? They need to get this in more stores out on display. They also need to drop 30-50 off the price here in the states if they want it to sell it needs to be cheaper than the first iPad mini and the Samsung Tab 3 8 regardless of the specs and it being a better product most Americans don't know specs they know brand name and price.
Ya, BB has this thing in their phone department next to the G2. Like what?
They need this over with the other tablets, let alone the other 8" tablets. Luckily I knew where to look so i can get a hands on before deciding on a purchase online
The two BB near me do not even have it out in the phone area they have a picture of it in the G2 display but not the actual device.
It does feel like that what is otherwise a fantastic tablet will again fail to sell properly. Just like the Samsung 7.7 did in its time. You have to wonder...
BB has no interest in promoting specific products. If the G Pad fails, it makes no difference to them. They are just as happy selling an iPad or a Samsung Note. LG is the one who loses when this product is a flop. It's up to LG to make sure that retailers sell the product. If they made the product attractive to BB, then BB would sell it. The real problem is that LG has not advertised the product, they've priced it too high, and they haven't provided the right incentives to retailers.
A retailer isn't going to give shelf space or attention to a product that is as poorly marketed as the G Pad. If a lot of people were coming into the store asking for it, BB would pay more attention. It's LG who's keeping the product a secret. BB is just following their lead.
And why are BB and Newegg the only authorized dealers?? Why isn't Amazon, Target, Costco, Sam's Club and Walmart selling this? Where are the magazine and TV ads? The billboards? The point of sale kiosks, etc? LG seems to have no serious interest in this product. Any product that was as poorly marketed as this one would fail in the market.
At least my local Best Buy has a white one up for display *in the phone section* away from all the other tablets and readers.
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At least my local Best Buy has a white one up for display *in the phone section* away from all the other tablets and readers.
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I got mine on release date. They didn't have any on display and only one left in stock (other than the one that the guy tried to sell me the display unit and then noticed the computer said it was $1000 for it).
I visited my local Best Buy last night and they still don't have it on display (in tablet or phone area) or in stock. I really don't understand why LG has dropped the ball on this but it seems to be in line with about every other mobile company minus Apple and Samsung. Every display other than the Apple and Samsung displays looked cheap and run down. The Nexus 7 display looked fine, but they have a demo running on all of their models so you can't even get a real feel for how it works. If LG would put a nice display in the tablet area, these things would sell fast. I just hope enough sell to have a decent development community.
LG must not. want to be successful. they had it on display only at. best buy with the mobile phones. No advertising, ovepriced and lackluster support.
Whose poor ideas were this? only. 1 retailer in the US?
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Apparently, US sucks *JOKE*
Here in Europe you can get your G Pad in 95% of all the electronics shops. Its really strange what's going on in the US...
I don't know how well the tablet is selling worldwide but at the biggest electronics store here in Zurich, I think it's doing quite well with the Black version sold out and only a few white versions left. Of course, this could be due to low stock to begin with, I'm not sure. I really hope it does well because I just got mine and it's probably one of the best electronic gadgets I have ever bought.
I'm no stranger to Android (although I haven't spent a great deal of time on the latest hardware such as the HTC One, G2 or Galaxy S4) but I was always a little disappointed by the promise of "buttery smooth performance" from the Jellybean. I have a One X and also another tablet from Pipo running the RK3188 so it's no slouch but both are not what I would call a smooth experience (although my One X became a heck of a lot better after flashing Cyanogenmod). I originally came from iPhones and iPads so I was very disappointed in this regard.
Now with the G Pad, I finally know what "buttery smooth" feels like on an Android. The machine is just incredible with next to no interface lag at all and all the apps zip around without any effort. The Wi-Fi strength is also incredible, picking up my router from distances that my One X, iPad mini or iPhone 4S could never have.
For the sake of LG, I hope it really does well. They deserve it and will hopefully release more products like this in the future.
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I don't know how well the tablet is selling worldwide but at the biggest electronics store here in Zurich, I think it's doing quite well with the Black version sold out and only a few white versions left. Of course, this could be due to low stock to begin with, I'm not sure. I really hope it does well because I just got mine and it's probably one of the best electronic gadgets I have ever bought.
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As you pointed out low stock could mean heavy selling or it could mean low stock. Considering the way it started off in the US, i.e., few retailers and high prices, I'm inclined to think that LG does not have a lot of capacity to manufacture the units. Currently, we're seeing more discounting in the US and few more options for retailers, but it is still not widely sold. Could be that the situation will get better as they produce more units.
Awesome tablet but I just returned mine to BestBuy. I've been burnt before buy buying a killer device that no one else bought. Software updates don't come and accessories don't fit. Very sad that LG made this ridiculous exclusive distribution deal.
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It does feel like that what is otherwise a fantastic tablet will again fail to sell properly. Just like the Samsung 7.7 did in its time. You have to wonder...
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I'm moving to the G Pad from the Lenovo A2109. A great device for the money...
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I played with one at best buy in southern il today it was next to the lg g2. I think I'll love this thing it's the perfect size and seems fast. I figure I'll keep for at least a year maybe longer if no one comes out with a better 8 inch tab. Samsung's note screen sucks I also looked at it today.
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I don't know who is to blame LG or Best Buy or both but it does make you scratch you head in wonder how they plan to sell this tablet based on current marketing an store display. Why give Best Buy an exclusive if they don't plan to display it and sell it? They need to get this in more stores out on display. They also need to drop 30-50 off the price here in the states if they want it to sell it needs to be cheaper than the first iPad mini and the Samsung Tab 3 8 regardless of the specs and it being a better product most Americans don't know specs they know brand name and price.
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Well Said Mark..
Even though they had no choice but to drop the price, still BestBuy does not even display it.
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BB has no interest in promoting specific products. If the G Pad fails, it makes no difference to them. They are just as happy selling an iPad or a Samsung Note. LG is the one who loses when this product is a flop. It's up to LG to make sure that retailers sell the product. If they made the product attractive to BB, then BB would sell it. The real problem is that LG has not advertised the product, they've priced it too high, and they haven't provided the right incentives to retailers.
A retailer isn't going to give shelf space or attention to a product that is as poorly marketed as the G Pad. If a lot of people were coming into the store asking for it, BB would pay more attention. It's LG who's keeping the product a secret. BB is just following their lead.
And why are BB and Newegg the only authorized dealers?? Why isn't Amazon, Target, Costco, Sam's Club and Walmart selling this? Where are the magazine and TV ads? The billboards? The point of sale kiosks, etc? LG seems to have no serious interest in this product. Any product that was as poorly marketed as this one would fail in the market.
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Well Said Woody.
Fast forward to the present and it's still the same.. BestBuy could care less about this Tablet.. a lot of sales reps still don't know about it and it's still to this day not on display..
And that's sad.
I have posted similar thoughts about lack of promotion and availability for this tablet in other forums. It's very strange to have such a product available only at one B&M retailer (BB), and one online store (Newegg), and as a GPE version. With that approach you would think LG would have dumped a bunch of money into promoting the G Pad at BB. I've seen enough complaints in the reviews at Newegg (and elsewhere for units purchased from Newegg) to think they were chosen to handle the returns, refurbished units, and otherwise 'unclean' units.
Having said that, our BB started displaying a black version and a white version G Pad a couple of weeks ago. Last week they price matched Newegg's $280 for the black version for me when they were selling theirs for $350. The sales rep I got knew all about the G Pad and started trying to sell me on it but I already knew everything I needed to know.
Now VerizonWireless has started to sell it as well, with LTE. That could be a breakthrough for this tablet, especially with the pricing model they have ($100 with a 2 year contract through tomorrow, $149 after that, and $300 with no contract). Those prices are pretty enticing, I think, especially compared to BB's $350 everyday price for the WiFi only model. It will be interesting to see what happens with this tablet now that VW is in the picture.
Another thought. I've wondered, especially since the GPE came out, if maybe the G Pad is a trial run for a Nexus 8 replacement for the Nexus 7 and maybe a new Nexus 10 as well that a lot of folks are waiting for. Google got a lot of heat for the issues many folks had with the Gen2 Nexus 7 built by ASUS. Maybe they are testing the waters with LG for their next generation Nexus tablets and they and LG aren't necessarily concerned about how much money they make from this one. Just a thought.

Do you think the N6 is overpriced?

According to Motorola, it will be available starting at $649.
Because the other thread is missing a poll.
Not overpriced... Its just not underpriced
For specs compared to other competitors... Underpriced? NO
For a Nexus phone... Overpriced? Hell Yea
And google lost me with the mammoth size. WHy couldnt they just keep the size same as nexus 5 and bump the screen size a little (if possible). Otherwise, i wouldve loved a nexus (Nexus 5S ?) with the same shape style etc but bumped up specs
It's regular price. Which makes me sad. Since the previous Nexus phones were all underpriced.
T-Mobile Nexus 6 (32GB) - $650
Galaxy Note 4 - $750
iPhone 6 Plus (64GB) - $850
And all signs are pointing towards the 3GB RAM/32GB Huawei Ascend Mate7 being in the neighborhood of $700.
It's still in-line with other newly released high-end phablets. For what it is, it's certainly not overpriced.
Stories said:
It's regular price. Which makes me sad. Since the previous Nexus phones were all underpriced.
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And they all had serious compromises.
gtalum said:
And they all had serious compromises.
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Like what?
little error
doctor_droid said:
Not overpriced... Its just not underpriced
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considering the fact that i can buy the lg g3 for 456€ on amazon and will not have many opportunities to buy new nexus devices below google play price, at least not reliably available, this is overprized because it's a net prize while other flagships come with a gross prize tag which expires after the first hipe within week or even days
rollerdyke44 said:
For specs compared to other competitors... Underpriced? NO
For a Nexus phone... Overpriced? Hell Yea
And google lost me with the mammoth size. WHy couldnt they just keep the size same as nexus 5 and bump the screen size a little (if possible). Otherwise, i wouldve loved a nexus (Nexus 5S ?) with the same shape style etc but bumped up specs
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What this man said.
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And they all had serious compromises.
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How about mi4 dude.
I think it's overpriced for a Nexus. The Nexus 5 was $300 cheaper than comparable devices. This thing is not, it's barely cheaper at all, and it really, really should be.
It's going to end up costing about £500 in the UK and that's pathetic for a Nexus. Part of the appeal of a Nexus is it is cheaper than the competition.
It's 'overpriced'.. compared to what previous Nexus owners are used to. But for that combination of software and specs, I would definitely pay for that price.
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Poor battery life and awful camera, on the N5. No LTE on the N4.
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Poor battery life and awful camera, on the N5. No LTE on the N4.
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Those aren't serious compromises. The battery life was average on the nexus 5. Name some devices that had exceptional battery life when the Nexus 5 was introduced? Also, the camera wasn't awful. It had some software issues that after being rectified made it respectable. Nothing seriously lacking.
And the nexus 4 DID have LTE. It was disabled. That is not a cost compromise. LTE bands are there.
Like I said, there were no devices that even came close to blowing away a Nexus device during their time. Especially to justify a 2-300 difference in price.
Hell to the yes.
Overpriced for a phone with no expandable storage. The Nexus 6 marks the end of a golden era. I think what's as equally upsetting as the price is not knowing who exactly is responsible for the price increase. Is it Google? Is it Motorola? Is it the carriers? I doubt it's Google, they make billions every year from advertising and this phone probably costs $250 at most to manufacture. Google doesn't need the profits from their Nexus line, they could very well lose money on the Nexus line and they'd still end up profiting at the end of the year.
Yes it is overpriced...
#1. Its a nexus device. Ever since the 2012 N7, the nexus name brought high end tech at an affordable price.
#2. Its not made by Apple. Both Samsung and Apple over price their devices but only Apple devices price don't depreciate quickly. I got my Note 3 for about $700 and now I'm struggling to sell it for $400. The N6 will be 450-500 by 2015.
#3. Its just a big phone. As ****ty as touchwiz is (main reason why I'm selling my Note 3) , it was built for phablets. AOSP doesn't have any special phablet features nor does it have a stylus to use.
I HAVE TO HAVE VERIZON because of where I travel so I have an S5 but I still have my OnePlus One and I will keep it. For the money I don't think its that big of a difference to the N6 and yes I know, the invitation BS with getting a OnePlus One but its still a great phone.
The issue is the Nexus line had been an awesome affordable android device. If motorola had released this device and it was not a Nexus it would be okay at $649, but because people have come to expect a lower price point for Nexus devices people are going to look at other options. A $300 price increase is ridiculous. Yes it has good specs, but the specs aren't a bigger upgrade than the n5 was over the n4.
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#3. Its just a big phone. As ****ty as touchwiz is (main reason why I'm selling my Note 3) , it was built for phablets. AOSP doesn't have any special phablet features nor does it have a stylus to use.
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Honestly this is my biggest concern with this phone. I just hope we get to see multi-window soon.

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