Will Nexus 4 have different versions like GN has? How we see OTAs happening? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

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As far as I can tell, there is only one version with pentaband GSM and support for T-Mobile's 42mbps HSPA+.
Also, you posted this in the wrong forum.

Hey!
Thanks for the message and sorry for using the wrong thread.
I more meant yakju and co Rom versions. It appeared that GN doesn't receive OTA updates depending on the version we have. Depending on ur version, you will get it from Google or from Samsung, and clearly not at the same pace.
I was wondering if it would harmonized to be Google only with the Nexus 4.
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It should all be one version this time.

Google has gone a different route this time due to issues regarding the Galaxy Nexus release. There will be one version (for now)

Google will have 100% control of OTA updates for every Nexus 4 in the world. This time around, Google is not letting any carrier or manufacturer get in the way of their device, like what happened with the Galaxy Nexus.

Thanks for the replies.
i don't want to play the devil's advocate here but is there anything which has been communicated officially which would confirm that good news?
Thanks again.
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I'd say you are 100% save if it is possible to buy it in the Play Store in your country. Otherwise, the situation for the Nexus 7 should be similar for what will happen with the Nexus 4. Don't know anything about that one though.

Well well... from the news I see on engadget, apparently TMobile in the US will block their subsidized phones not allowing wifi calls. To me it looks like a Tmo rom version to block this feature.
That would then confirm multiple roms for the Nexus 4.
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Good thing I chanced upon this thread first. Was gonna ask the same thing. The whole yakju thing for the gnex was a pain despite the ease in converting. Nice to know that this time around, Google will keep to just one build
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tarzoueffe said:
Well well... from the news I see on engadget, apparently TMobile in the US will block their subsidized phones not allowing wifi calls. To me it looks like a Tmo rom version to block this feature.
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If you want accurate news stop reading Engadget. T-Mobile confirmed they are not including their UMA calling app. This is nothing new. No nexus devices have ever officially had it. This isn't news more like fud. They are not blocking anything on the operating system level.

tarzoueffe said:
Well well... from the news I see on engadget, apparently TMobile in the US will block their subsidized phones not allowing wifi calls. To me it looks like a Tmo rom version to block this feature.
That would then confirm multiple roms for the Nexus 4.
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T-Mobile has ZERO control over the software on the Nexus 4. None whatsoever. Google has not bothered to implement carrier-specific features like T-Mobile's wifi calling into the phone.

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Galaxy Nexus release date

Galaxy Nexus release date for Verizon, AT&T, T- mobile set for Nov. 10. Going to be waiting for my chance to get this phone.
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Do you have a link to a source stating T-mobile will have it?
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This thread is a fail.
coderuckus said:
Do you have a link to a source stating T-mobile will have it?
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No, the OP is either trolling or is seriously confused.
FOR THE TIME BEING GALAXY NEXUS IS A VERIZON EXCLUSIVE. PERIOD END OF STORY, NO IFS AND OR BUTS ABOUT IT.
I REALLY wish people would stop purposefully posting false/misleading information. It REALLY hurts these forums.
geek.com has the article that says the nexus is not exclusive to Verizon per Verizon itself
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mritek said:
geek.com has the article that says the nexus is not exclusive to Verizon per Verizon itself
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It is speculation. Where does it say TMobile on the 10th?
beren28 said:
It is speculation. Where does it say TMobile on the 10th?
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Google wouldn't release a cdma/lte phone(takes much longer time and different parts.. just take a look at wimax nexus s) first unless Verizon paid a ton of dough for exclusiveness. The hspa+ version is being released soon in the UK, so at the very least, it will be for tmobile unlocked. I bet it will go farther and subsidized too. Isn't the Verizon one just strong speculation too(given they have the moto razr)? FCC report has one confirmed with tmo bands as well. Probably not gonna be 42mbps though.
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Google wouldn't release a cdma/lte phone(takes much longer time and different parts.. just take a look at wimax nexus s) first unless Verizon paid a ton of dough for exclusiveness. The hspa+ version is being released soon in the UK, so at the very least, it will be for tmobile unlocked. I bet it will go farther and subsidized too. Isn't the Verizon one just strong speculation too(given they have the moto razr)? FCC report has one confirmed with tmo bands as well. Probably not gonna be 42mbps though.
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NO the Verizon exclusivity for the time being is NOT speculation. It was confirmed on Samsung's Facebook by "Samsung Janel" last week, or maybe it was the week prior.
She confirmed for the time being Galaxy Nexus is a Verizon exclusive. How much more proof do you guys want? It came straight from Samsung.
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NO the Verizon exclusivity for the time being is NOT speculation. It was confirmed on Samsung's Facebook by "Samsung Janel" last week, or maybe it was the week prior.
She confirmed for the time being Galaxy Nexus is a Verizon exclusive. How much more proof do you guys want? It came straight from Samsung.
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How about this?
http://www.androidcentral.com/veriz...sive-no-more?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
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Exclusive in the US, for now. It will be released in Europe around the same time Verizon gets it, so you will be able to import it if you want, but I would guess it will be on the other US carriers. Maybe Verizon gets a month, maybe three but if Google wants to sell this phone they wont leave it on Verizon for too long. I personally will wait and see but not too long, I will just import it if I have to.
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archie53 said:
Exclusive in the US, for now. It will be released in Europe around the same time Verizon gets it, so you will be able to import it if you want, but I would guess it will be on the other US carriers. Maybe Verizon gets a month, maybe three but if Google wants to sell this phone they wont leave it on Verizon for too long. I personally will wait and see but not too long, I will just import it if I have to.
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I have a feeling that many of us vibrant users will want to import an intl version that will work with t-mo.. but I haven't been able to find the verified hardware specs for the UK version yet. Intl phones always seem to get better and faster updates, so as a google phone I imagine it would be even better.
I wonder if we could do a group-buy type thing if enough here were willing to import?
It may not release officially from Tmobile but it has their hspa+ bands, so u could easily buy it unlocked and use it for Tmobile, which is what I'm definitely doing and can't frickin wait!
"it don't matter your race, just take a blunt to the face" -Kid Cudi
Slasher just posted date for Verizon nexus 11/28 I how
Tmobile picks up this phone as well door xmas
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It may not release officially from Tmobile but it has their hspa+ bands
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I thought it only has the slower edge bands?!? If the 4g bands were supported I'd consider an import at the right price.
Verizon increases data cap to 4GB!!!!!
Nexus on Verizon 4G LTE with 4GB data cap should work out well.

Ota in America

When do you think we will receive the new ota and do you think all carriers will get it at the same time?
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August when international gets jelly bean. If that is when they get pushed that update
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ttieder said:
When do you think we will receive the new ota and do you think all carriers will get it at the same time?
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Not Jelly Bean yet but we can start with this one - Samsung Galaxy S III OTA update adds brightness widget to drop-down menu
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/06/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-ota-update-adds-brightness-widget-to-drop-d/
looks to be released today.
EDIT: Looks like this is only for Global phones
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Not Jelly Bean yet but we can start with this one - Samsung Galaxy S III OTA update adds brightness widget to drop-down menu
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/06/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-ota-update-adds-brightness-widget-to-drop-d/
looks to be released today.
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I was talking about that one I know jellybean ain't coming for at least October .
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From my experience with my Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, VZW users will get an update about 6-8 weeks after everyone else.
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From my experience with my Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, VZW users will get an update about 6-8 weeks after everyone else.
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Lmao, well if Samsung was able to get all devices in US carriers hopefully they got the change to mention updates too
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Even though this is for International version, would devs be able to take anything from it and implement things for us?
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The ota is for the intl version not for the usa version. The devices r completely different.
dasistsparta said:
The ota is for the intl version not for the usa version. The devices r completely different.
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We know that, but we hope Samsung delivers the update too
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jgalan14 said:
We know that, but we hope Samsung delivers the update too
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What makes u think there is the need for an ota? What bugs ur phone has? Or it is just a new trend to get otas every week
dasistsparta said:
What makes u think there is the need for an ota? What bugs ur phone has? Or it is just a new trend to get otas every week
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Well that brightness slider would be a GREAT addition in my opinion. I also wouldn't mind if the fixed the standby battery draw reporting glitch. Also, they could ACTUALLY fix the standby battery draw so the phone doesn't suck it self dry through the day from standby.
Oh yeah, the desktop background doesn't scroll when you flip screens. Don't know if that's a glitch, but it's just stupid and should be changed.
Another thing, the phone seems to just drop reception randomly even though it's in a fully covered area. This constant drop and pick up is suuuuuper annoying when you're surfing the web or using some messenger app. Also is a battery killer as well.
Improvements can always be made. It's nice to get the updates and nice to know samsung/att cares about our experience. (For sure ATT doesn't give two ****s so I hope Samsung can persuade)
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What makes u think there is the need for an ota? What bugs ur phone has? Or it is just a new trend to get otas every week
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Not sure if serious...
This phone's wireless/data radio are a complete pos. WiFi drops constantly, and it's just weak. I can't even believe how weak the signal is. You guys are worried about brightness...lol .
I've personally have had an issue where callers from my contacts list show up as Unknown. My Dad, with the same GS3, called me and asked if I was having this issue as he had been noticing it as well. Also, some others on xda have reported the same or similar issues.
I called and talked to a rep at tmo and was told that it was a known issue being worked on by tmo and sammy. Not sure when (or if) this will be fixed, but I'm hopeful.

Using US nexus 7 internationally

I purchased a nexus 7 as a gift for a family member that lives overseas. Is there anything that will be affected in terms of updates and or general usage aside from the charger? I don't want to give them a headache if I can avoid it, so any info would be a big help before sending it. If there is anything I should know or do in preparation for them I would much appreciate any info, Thanks!
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No.I m n Thailand
And. Been in Europe.
So far so good....
So is there no change in the software at all? I apologize I am new to anything nexus as I am mainly familiar with Samsung stuff. I know for instance the galaxy note 10.1 has ics in usa officially and Germany already has Jellybean. are updates like that likely to be the same?
Thank you for the reply!
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722ish said:
So is there no change in the software at all? I apologize I am new to anything nexus as I am mainly familiar with Samsung stuff. I know for instance the galaxy note 10.1 has ics in usa officially and Germany already has Jellybean. are updates like that likely to be the same?
Thank you for the reply!
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As far as I know,
I'm going to Asia next few months ( in this case, we use Asia for example) and I called Google regarding my concerns. What I know is that the
GPS and navigation will definitely work.
The play store seem like only the app will work, Movie/music/TVshow/ magazine will not work if I did not remember anything wrong.
Android updates for the Nexus 7 will be continued I think. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks.
Correct.I have no book here...
OTA updates work everywhere, the only thing that changes are the play store offerings
Awesome. Thank you all for the information, I appreciate the help.
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swisstourist said:
No.I m n Thailand
And. Been in Europe.
So far so good....
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Can anyone verify if the Wi-Fi will work on channels 12 and 13? I know some US devices don't like my Sony Xperia.

HTC president says developer edition to skip 4.2

Goin straight to 4.3
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ac3kill said:
Goin straight to 4.3
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Lies!!! But where's your proof bro?
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HMMMMM.....(checks GE converted one with 4.3) yep
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Lies!!! But where's your proof bro?
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There was a tweet. Google it. It was also posted on an android central article. I think that's bs. It's been ready why jot push it.
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Here's the links
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ll-skip-android-4-2-2-and-go-straight-to-4-3/
https://twitter.com/JasonMacHTC/status/368570622080602112
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There was a tweet. Google it. It was also posted on an android central article. I think that's bs. It's been ready why jot push it.
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It's not ready, besides before it can be sent out to carrier branded models the carrier adds their bloat and approves the update. Ultimately making those who have carrier models wait longer
The Developer Edition obviously isn't branded so once it's ready the update will be released
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Ultimately I think its good because it will get 4.3 dev ed out soon for the developers to use as a base for roms...
Won't help those of us that have Sprint devices as we'll have to wait for a Sprint version to come out but maybe the Verizon 4.2.2 can be used...
MG
HTC's US President also says that they want EVERY US model running 4.3 by September. Good news.
http://www.phonedog.com/2013/08/18/...ing-to-update-u-s-models-by-end-of-september/
Yey. ARHD Sense will definitely be running 4.3. Or maybe we can flash the RUU too. They still haven't given a RUU for 2.24 and I'm stuck with custom ROMS. ; -;
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It's not ready, besides before it can be sent out to carrier branded models the carrier adds their bloat and approves the update. Ultimately making those who have carrier models wait longer
The Developer Edition obviously isn't branded so once it's ready the update will be released
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I always hear people say this. What does the carrier have to do with it? They don't change anything on the ROM except maybe some connection settings. All they have to do is make sure the new radio firmware still works on their network and approve it.
Or maybe things are done differently in the states. Here in Canada all HTC One's are like the Dev edition. I have never experienced this "carrier bloat"
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I always hear people say this. What does the carrier have to do with it? They don't change anything on the ROM except maybe some connection settings. All they have to do is make sure the new radio firmware still works on their network and approve it.
Or maybe things are done differently in the states. Here in Canada all HTC One's are like the Dev edition. I have never experienced this "carrier bloat"
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Yeah US carriers do more extensive testing and stuff with these. I used to do device and update testing at a carrier and because US networks are crap and a hodgepodge of standards and what works in LA without many changes doesn't work as easily in NY without some network adjustments.
Then there is the carrier bloat issue that they want all their garbage on them and then that too has to be tested, etc...
No excuses as they take too long and load too much on devices, just explaining why it takes so long...
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So do you think USA will get 4.3 before Europe and Asia? If so would devs change their base or wait?
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FangorX said:
I always hear people say this. What does the carrier have to do with it? They don't change anything on the ROM except maybe some connection settings. All they have to do is make sure the new radio firmware still works on their network and approve it.
Or maybe things are done differently in the states. Here in Canada all HTC One's are like the Dev edition. I have never experienced this "carrier bloat"
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They perform quality control and testing. It's a VERY long and tedious engineering process trust me.
So not only does it run through HTC but also the carriers right after.
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So do you think USA will get 4.3 before Europe and Asia? If so would devs change their base ?
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I definitely believe that areas outside the US will get it first. The only thing I want from AT&T is the firmware. All the software is virtually the same minus the fact our carriers overload it with bloat.
Glad I went S-Off on my Developer Edition and flashed the 3.06 already.
To all those saying "testing" is the reason 4.2.2 is delayed... why is it available for branded phones then? I don't understand why bloated versions have 4.2.2 already while the Developer Edition doesnt? They are essentially the same phone. If "testing" is the reason, why flashing 3.06 to my Developer Edition hasn't given me any problems?
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Glad I went S-Off on my Developer Edition and flashed the 3.06 already.
To all those saying "testing" is the reason 4.2.2 is delayed... why is it available for branded phones then? I don't understand why bloated versions have 4.2.2 already while the Developer Edition doesnt? They are essentially the same phone. If "testing" is the reason, why flashing 3.06 to my Developer Edition hasn't given me any problems?
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Because HTC is in bed with useless US carriers.
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Because HTC is in bed with useless US carriers.
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no it' s because the 4.2.2 update was pulled because of bugs
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no it' s because the 4.2.2 update was pulled because of bugs
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Exactly... base Android 4.2.2 was a fix to a bad release. Its fairly common that although 4.2 brought some of the coolest new features it was buggy as hell and had some deeply ingrained issues. 4.2.1 & 4.2.2 were both bug fixes , with neither fixing the root issues.
I prefer they move to 4.3. For being a new release it is very very solid and a worthy stable release to launch KLP from. Similar to the 2.3.5-7 to 4.0 jump.
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FangorX said:
I always hear people say this. What does the carrier have to do with it? They don't change anything on the ROM except maybe some connection settings. All they have to do is make sure the new radio firmware still works on their network and approve it.
Or maybe things are done differently in the states. Here in Canada all HTC One's are like the Dev edition. I have never experienced this "carrier bloat"
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Yes. Here in the states these carriers are crazy. Especially Verizon. They're the top US carrier. They add like useless apps to your phone.
The issue is carriers want to make sure that the phone complies with what they want on their network. Their wants are pretty trivial. They're just expressing their power.
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Will the 4.3 update come to Unbranded USA HTC One 32 gb too?

Mitel Sprint MVNO S4

So at work we have recently been informed that all our phones are going to be switched to Mitel (a Sprint network based MVNO). We were all going to be given S3s unless we opted to pay for an upgrade or of pocket...The upside being we own the phone if we upgrade. I opted to upgrade to the S4, but at the time they were saying "Sprint, Sprint, Sprint" so I didn't realize we were going to be on a virtually unheard of MVNO. I've rooted every single phone I've had since I bought my Google G1 back in the day, & I love the level of control it gives me. Now I'm looking around and seeing absolutely zero information about phones on Mitel....so naturally, I'm a bit concerned. I know I can root it, but am I stuck on stock touch wiz? Or is this the point at which I get to dabble in pretending to be a developer? What kind of challenges am I looking at here? thanks in advance!
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No one? Anyone?
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Unless they are branded I kind of assume they will still be using sprint phone's. Therefore not much will change. I could be totally wrong though lol.
Edit: Phone's are cheap, plans are not. http://www.mitelmobile.com/mitel-plans-and-pricing/
Well they have mitel branding on them from the pictures, but I guess I'll be finding out tomorrow when I get it!
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Well, I thought I ought to give an update. I got the phone today, and it is a Sprint S4. Not even any Mitel branding...as far as I can tell, all the same exact phone that sprint and it.... Booklets inside even refer you to Sprint's website. It's activated but data isn't working yet. Not sure what is up with that. If it's not working tomorrow, I'm supposed to call support.
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