I've had S3 and it's the best screen ever.
I am let down however with the GN2 screen, it looks bland and lacking detail, it's like looking at the S3 then iphone 5 and noticing the difference in colors.
I even compared it to the GNote 1 side by side and the galaxy note 1 just looked much better, better colors no doubt.
Am I the only one or have other people found the same thing?
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I've had S3 and it's the best screen ever.
I am let down however with the GN2 screen, it looks bland and lacking detail, it's like looking at the S3 then iphone 5 and noticing the difference in colors.
I even compared it to the GNote 1 side by side and the galaxy note 1 just looked much better, better colors no doubt.
Am I the only one or have other people found the same thing?
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Note 2 colors are much more "accurate" as they say...
Maybe you like oversaturated colors more? becauee another example you gave of iphone 5, Display Mate has said that the display of iphone 5 is more "accurate colors" than that of s3.
But some people (me too!) like oversaturation and inaccuracy more
settings>display>screen mode>dynamic
that should bring out a bit more color.
Think your phone might be faulty as the screen on my note 2 is more vivid and sharper than my 1 video are amazing and I have copared same movie on both phones
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Think your phone might be faulty as the screen on my note 2 is more vivid and sharper than my 1 video are amazing and I have copared same movie on both phones
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Same here, my n2 have really nice colors and one plus compare to my s3 is i can even see the screen on my n2 outside in strong sun that s3 is really bad at.
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I've had S3 and it's the best screen ever.
I am let down however with the GN2 screen, it looks bland and lacking detail, it's like looking at the S3 then iphone 5 and noticing the difference in colors.
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Stridar said:
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I am let down however with the GN2 screen, it looks bland and lacking detail, it's like looking at the S3 then iphone 5 and noticing the difference in colors.
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Yes I understand all the comparisons in pixels/ RBG/ pentile. The GNote 2 on paper is impressive but, when I actually help the device and looked at it, it looked lacking. I don't know, I'm still note convinced by the replies.
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Yes I understand all the comparisons in pixels/ RBG/ pentile. The GNote 2 on paper is impressive but, when I actually help the device and looked at it, it looked lacking. I don't know, I'm still note convinced by the replies.
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"note convinced"..... Is that supposed to be a bad pun?
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My s3 always had blurry text. Not sure whats with your screen. My note 2 is much improved.
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Same here, my n2 have really nice colors and one plus compare to my s3 is i can even see the screen on my n2 outside in strong sun that s3 is really bad at.
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yes S3 is not so good outside in day time for me even when the screen is full bright up all the way.. looks like the note 2 is more brighter to see outside in day time..i had the HTC one X and was bright and can see it really good at day time but seems like LCD sucks battery faster...
im looking to get a note again.... do you have to crank up the brightness on the note 2 to see it really good at day time sunlight?
thanks
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Stridar said:
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I am let down however with the GN2 screen, it looks bland and lacking detail, it's like looking at the S3 then iphone 5 and noticing the difference in colors.
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This pic tells it all
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I think that graphic is a bit misleading as it has been scaled up slightly on the S3 to match sizes.
I have both the S3 and the Note 2 and yeah in some ways the S3 screen is better but I would say it's due to the PPI.
One thing that is right on in that pic is the green tint on the S3. Holding them side by side it's certain that colors are truer on the Note 2 and white is more white etc.
note 2 is a improvement of the s3 pentile matrix. Its not up for debate. Its like saying ps1 has better graphics then ps2.
Why the denial?
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Here in HK alot of users had reported that texts and images appear to be much sharper on the note 1. It has to do with the S-stripe subpixel arrangement of the new note 2 screen, heres an article that explains it in more details (please cutout the spaces before and after the word "uwants". Site is also in chinese but u should be able to get the idea looking at the pics):
mobile. uwants .com/viewthread.php?tid=15373991&extra=page%3D16
mobile. uwants .com/viewthread.php?tid=15376980&extra=page%3D1
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Think your phone might be faulty as the screen on my note 2 is more vivid and sharper than my 1 video are amazing and I have copared same movie on both phones
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Agree...my note 2 screen is definitely bettet
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I agree with the OP. The whites on my screen appear a little beige-ish when held parallel to the eye. Once you tilt it, in any direction you see the pure whiteness. I tried this at various brightness levels. I dont think this is a matter about comparing pixels and sub-pixel arrangement. The colors on first glance look superb better than any screen that ive seen. But when you tilt the screen a bit, that when u realise what superb really is! but holding it staright, the whites are certainly not so white.
Ive also read that all Amoleds are different and that could be one of the reasons. And im not sure if Samsung will replace the unit for this? Has anyone tried to replace the handset before, with any other Galaxies due to this screen problem?
I have both andI Note II has the better screen specially outdoor visibility .However the screen being more tinted is making the whites slightly duller.
A faulty screen. Normal problem of all AMOLED screens that the quality is varied.
I Can't believe all the bad talk over this screen. Received my unit today. In my eyes, this is the best screen on any mobile device that I have owned. It looks fantastic!!! Whites look good, blacks are fantastic, and colors pop. It's even usable outside in the sun. I'm coming from an S3, and have also owned the One X, iphone 4 and the original Note.
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Then I guess u should compare it with the others
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Hi,
I have been using an HTC Desire Z and figured to post here. I would like a new phone but can't really decide between the Galaxy note or the Galaxy S II. What is your opinion? My concern is the note maybe too big for me to use and fit in my pockets.
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Easiest answer is to go to a shop and get hold of a Note to see if you find it too big and if it fits your pockets. Opinions can be useful sometimes but at the end, the choice is yours and there is no better way than to see the device in real to get a better idea.
What do you expect to hear from a Note owners forum?
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What do you expect to hear from a Note owners forum?
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lol...exactly what I thought.....everyone here owns a Note = we love the big screen and I doubt anyone will say the contrary! Big screen is our cup of tea! hehe.
Note doesn't have a big screen. All other phones have a too little screen.
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Note doesn't have a big screen. All other phones have a too little screen.
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Exactly!!! btw I love my Note, Actually I can't hold a smaller phone anymore. I think you should buy this phone
Cheers m8
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Note doesn't have a big screen. All other phones have a too little screen.
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Note doesn't have a big screen. All other phones have a too little screen.
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I've seen a good migration of desire Z owners moving to the note, I can only presume partly because of the typing experience on the large screen (dz being the best keyboard phone out atm?).
I myself don't use the keyboard but am hoping to migrate across
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I can absolutely tell that this is a Pentile screen.
I do not have super vision. I wear contacts and my eyesight is no better than 20/20 but it is very obvious to me that this is a Pentile screen.
Even from about a foot away, the telltale sense of something being "off" is noticeable. Most obvious when looking at app icons and text. Text is not nearly as crisp as I am used to. It is possible to see the individual "grains" that images consist of starting from about 12" onwards.
At lower brightness settings, whites are rather washed out. Not very vibrant, even when compared to the low brightness settings on an IPS LCD screen.
The phone is deceptively heavy, and I don't mean that in a bad way. I was positively certain that my EVO 3D was at least 60 grams heavier than this device.. Until I looked up the official specs and saw that the N7000 is actually 8 grams heavier than the E3D.
Even with the case on, this phone feels super lightweight. Mass is distributed very, very evenly throughout the device. It's really neat, actually. At first, the lack of heft did give me the impression that this is a bit of a fragile device but I do find myself liking the fact that it's very evenly distributed. E3D weight was unevenly distributed towards the camera casing. I like that the casing in the Note is flush.
This next bit may be because I have a screen protector overlaid the display, but I do feel like the digitizer is more.. discerning. Not sure if that's the right word. But what I mean is that whereas I'm used to being able to give a screen the slightest bit of touch using the angled bit of skin that's just slightly more than flush with my fingernail, I find I have to make sure I present a good bit of skin to register a touch.
I do miss having a dedicated camera button.
I'm also not a fan of having the lock button on the side.
I'm actually not a fan of hard button placement, period. Due to the way I hold the phone, I find myself accidentally hitting the volume slider when unlocking my phone one-handedly.
It's a slick device and very beautiful. I'm not a fan of TouchWiz, less intrusive than Sense but also marginally less useful and coherent in design language. I find the aesthetic very kitschy and gaudy as well.
The TouchWiz lockscreen is beautiful but offers little in the way of utility. I immediately installed ADW Ex and WidgetLocker.
Performance is very good. Very smooth. Although I did also immediately decide to root and flash some stuff. My ROM is based on stock though, just adds some tweaks and doodads.
The 1.4Ghz Exynos/Mali combo offers good performance. I don't feel that it is particularly too much faster, more powerful than the 1.5Ghz Scorpion/Adreno 220 combo in my E3D but it is a helluva lot smoother, even considering it's powering something like twice as many pixels.
Battery life is very good, battery drain seems very balanced. Nice.
I love the size, my E3D seems like a plaything in comparison. But here's the thing, I have MAN HANDS. I'm far from what anyone would call a big guy, but I have big, clumsy and awkward fingers and thumbs. I can operate the Note one handed and can type one handed. The size is, for me, a big plus. I can't type with one hand as I could on my E3D due to the further travel but I still gots it baby.
Is this phone for everyone? No.
Even if one ignores the size issue, the Pentile display may be a BIG turn-off. I myself would prefer an IPS LCD of this size but I understand the concerns of battery efficiency and the simple constraints of technology at this time.
That is honestly, in my opinion, the more important question surrounding your decision to get this device or not. If you're ok with both the size and the display, have at 'em!
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Well as an owner of the Desire Z I honestly think the physical keyboard isn't great for my use. I pretty the on-screen keyboard more. May I ask what is a pentile display?
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Pentile display means five sub pixels arranged together to form a pixel. A pixel is a combination of red green and blue sub pixels. Galaxy Note uses RGBG Pentile display (only four) . That means green pixel is placed in between each red and blue sub pixel. The human eye is most sensitive to green, especially for high resolution luminance information.This makes clear picture visible to us.
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I wasn't sure about the size of the gnote but I went ahead with buying one before I actually used a test model. I went out a day or two after to test one after I had ordered mine and immediately started to have concerns because it just didn't feel right in my hands. As soon as I got it though I was blown away. The weight is absolutely perfect for holding and the screen size is just right. I have slightly larger hands than most guys but the people I've let use phone have thought it was awesome too despite its sheer size.
I think its best to just buy one and if you don't like it trade it in or something.
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Frankly, I wish it were bigger. It could easily be another few centimetres wider (from a portrait perspective). I want it to not waste any space in my pocket! It would make tablet mode even better, browsing would be even more awesome, etc. Maybe even fit in a bigger battery, although it's certainly no slouch in that department.
The colour/gradient rendering might be an issue for you. It hasn't been for me ever since I switched to ICS, but it's something that never should've existed in an expensive phone like this.
The display is stunning, there's no other word for it IMO. Especially on full brightness and with colourful apps (Minecraft is a great demo for this!). Careful using full brightness when it's dark though, you will burn your eyes to a crisp!
Honestly, I think many of the people are right. 3.5 to 3.7 inch screen phones are really small. I'm starting to get sore eyes from using my desire z. My question is do any of you own a galaxy s2?
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Hi,
I have been using an HTC Desire Z and figured to post here. I would like a new phone but can't really decide between the Galaxy note or the Galaxy S II. What is your opinion? My concern is the note maybe too big for me to use and fit in my pockets.
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No, I had an HTC Desire. Yes, it's a much smaller phone. No, after a few months with the Note I don't notice its size at all. Ever, in fact. I still wear all the same trousers. The size is the best thing about the Note.
Really, really, really, like almost everyone else on here, I think the future is for smartphones to grow to around the Note's size. In the past, people wanted tiny phones, after all they were simply for making phone calls.
Now everyone wants to have the internet in their pocket. Phone is pretty much secondary. For that, you want the biggest screen you can fit in a pair of jeans.
This is the Note.
One day, all smartphones will be this size!
I think you might be right. I was talking to friends about the note aand they say that it's too big for calls. I think generally opinion changes when you own the device itself.
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I'm thinking of buying this phone in the summer but one question, with the huugeee screen... how's the battery life?! And how crisp is the screen?
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antz_77 said:
Note doesn't have a big screen. All other phones have a too little screen.
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beware... think twice before buying the note as once you have it you will have a permanent disability....
you will be incapable of using another device with a smaller screen...
If i were to get this phone, what kind of case would really protect the glass on the screen from shattering? I would really like to use tpu cases and would they protect the screen? I know a screen protector is essential.
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The black crush issues was big problem with on the original note to the point of making videos with a lot of dark scenes unwatchable. Reading through the various threads the topic of black crush/clipping seems comes up when issues of screen quality are discussed. It would be helpful if those with a note 2 could take part in the poll. This will help everyone who is interested to know how wide spread or if the issue still exist in the new Note 2
Below is an attachment of a gamma test pattern, you have to download and view the image within note 2 gallery, preferably in a dark room, and at maximum brightness. if you can see the left bar boxes 10 to 1 with little to no gradual gradient then most likely your note 2 has the black crush issue
It's like haunting a ghost.
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The black crush issues was big problem with on the original note to the point of making videos with a lot of dark scenes unwatchable. Reading through the various threads the topic of black crush/clipping seems comes up when issues of screen quality are discussed. It would be helpful if those with a note 2 could take part in the poll. This will help everyone who is interested to know how wide spread or if the issue still exist in the new Note 2
Below is an attachment of a gamma test pattern, you have to download and view the image within note 2 gallery, preferably in a dark room, and at maximum brightness. if you can see the left bar boxes 10 to 1 with little to no gradual gradient then most likely your note 2 has the black crush issue
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Here is mine, no black crush.. the note 2 is on the left, note 1 on right:
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Here is mine, no black crush.. the note 2 is on the left, note 1 on right:
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From your pics the difference between note 2 and note 1 is like night and day, whites on the note 2 sure do look better
On two S3s i've tested 7 is black already. So the note 2 is an improvement.
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much better
this f..ng black crush issue was the reason i got rid of my original note (tried 2, and both suffered from it badly) and i am happy to report that it is completely gone on the note II
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On two S3s i've tested 7 is black already. So the note 2 is an improvement.
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Experienced the same thing on my S3, box 10 to 8 is a one tone gray and from 7 to 1 its completely black with no gradient at all...suffice to say watching videos on S3 feels disappointing...
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From your pics the difference between note 2 and note 1 is like night and day, whites on the note 2 sure do look better
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The note1 screen degrades/burns in rapidly, whites turn slightly yellowish over a period of a few months. Notice the notification bar area on the note1 and how white that area is. Thats how all the whites used to look before the amoled degradation.
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I just tested my s3 with that clipping jpg test. Indeed in the gallery app the numbers 1 to 7 were veritably "crushed" to black but as I exited the gallery, the screen brightened for an instant and all the numbers were visible. I checked out the jpg in the stock browser and dolphin and there were no black crushing issues, all the numbers and corresponding black levels were discernible.
After watching hd trailers like the dark night on my S3, I had a gut feeling there couldn't be this severe of a black crushing issue, the videos look awesome. Looks like it might be a issue with gallery app and not the screen imo.
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this f..ng black crush issue was the reason i got rid of my original note (tried 2, and both suffered from it badly) and i am happy to report that it is completely gone on the note ii
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The note1 screen degrades/burns in rapidly, whites turn slightly yellowish over a period of a few months. Notice the notification bar area on the note1 and how white that area is. Thats how all the whites used to look before the amoled degradation.
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Before a needless debate about LCD over pentile, note 1 pentile over pentile in note 2, PPI, sub pixels, resolutions, aspect ratios.
Let's say if your unhappy in the first 6 months you should sell up and move on. If its that bad get a warranty replacement first.
Now, we can focus on posting and commenting pictures of gamma tests. Do far the note 2 hadn't missed a beat - some people find that irritating.
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so far the majority of people who have taken part in the poll do not suffer from black crush issue in their note 2...if the poll is anything to go by, the note screen has truly made great improvement in that department...watching movies on the large 5.5inch screen should be a treat
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Before a needless debate about LCD over pentile, note 1 pentile over pentile in note 2, PPI, sub pixels, resolutions, aspect ratios.
Let's say if your unhappy in the first 6 months you should sell up and move on. If its that bad get a warranty replacement first.
Now, we can focus on posting and commenting pictures of gamma tests. Do far the note 2 hadn't missed a beat - some people find that irritating.
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I think you are misinterpreting something here... as I was the only one to post a gamma pic in this thread, I was trying to explain why the note1 in my pic has such a yellow tint in the whites compared to the new note, which so far has pretty nice whites.
There is no debate needed, amoleds do not last forever and even the note2 screen will degrade over time and use, like it or not.
As a matter of note, I hadn't noticed the extent of my note1 screen degradation until I took that comparison pic. Its a gradual change creeps up on you. Most people would not even notice the difference over time. What is disturbing however, is the fact that my note1 is only 7 months old.
No one said they were unhappy or irritated with the new note, so far it has not missed a beat, as you say. I am very happy with mine. As a new owner of the note2, I just hope the new screen technology is more resilient to change over time.
Now, with that said, I would like to see more comparison gamma pics with the note 2 vs note 1 posted.
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I just tested my s3 with that clipping jpg test. Indeed in the gallery app the numbers 1 to 7 were veritably "crushed" to black but as I exited the gallery, the screen brightened for an instant and all the numbers were visible. I checked out the jpg in the stock browser and dolphin and there were no black crushing issues, all the numbers and corresponding black levels were discernible.
After watching hd trailers like the dark night on my S3, I had a gut feeling there couldn't be this severe of a black crushing issue, the videos look awesome. Looks like it might be a issue with gallery app and not the screen imo.
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The png image still clips black under 8 in dolphin, opera and browser on my S3. But it seems I spoke too soon, one of our kernel developers has just fixed it in his kernel Perseus!
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Just fixed this on the S3 and just wanted to let everybody know this is just a calibration issue and can be easily changed, hardware is not to blame.
ah good, i was really wondering about this. Thanks everyone for posting your results. This is the main thing I was concerned about purchasing the next Note. The first one I had, I took it back because of this and several other issues.
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Just fixed this on the S3 and just wanted to let everybody know this is just a calibration issue and can be easily changed, hardware is not to blame.
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How did you fix the black crush on the s3, the only solution i have come across is using Filter Your Screen and even with that its not so much a fix but just masking the situation. the app even has warning that it could damage amoled screens
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How did you fix the black crush on the s3, the only solution i have come across is using Filter Your Screen and even with that its not so much a fix but just masking the situation. the app even has warning that it could damage amoled screens
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Of course an external app ain't fix it, it doesn't have the control over such things.I changed the black gamma response curve in the mDNIe profiles of the device. In other words, flash my kernel for the fix (On the S3, Note 2 doesn't need it).
so is no one else seeing black crushing while watching DVDrips? I have not seen black crushing on my 1080p videos i have, but on dvdrip and most BRrips i see the big black boxes in dark scenes. Even with brightness at max, it does make some movies quite bad to watch at times. overall, still a great improvement from the Note1
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so is no one else seeing black crushing while watching DVDrips? I have not seen black crushing on my 1080p videos i have, but on dvdrip and most BRrips i see the big black boxes in dark scenes. Even with brightness at max, it does make some movies quite bad to watch at times. overall, still a great improvement from the Note1
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Are you sure you're not talking about compression artifacts in the movie itself? Badly compressed videos can have the same effect as black crush on large blocks of monotone coloured areas of the screen.
I'm use to my galaxy s2/3. Just got my n4 and I'm worried my screen is washed out or am I just use to amoled screens but just wanting to make sure
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Looks normal
I dont see any issues with the screen from the pics. Sometimes I noticed some wallpapers make the screen look washed out ( personal observation)
You should try using same background and then compare the home screens to see the difference. But my nexus 4 looks much better than SGS3 my friend has
It's washed out compared to the Galaxy S3 because the Galaxy S3's screen is better. Same when I compare my two phones. The Nexus 4 has been a real disappointment.
Definitely noticed it compared to my HTC one x. Ain't gonna go back though, the extra RAM and lack of bloaty skins makes the nexus 4 fly. I'll live with the washed out home screens, in video playback its not too bad.
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It's washed out compared to the Galaxy S3 because the Galaxy S3's screen is better. Same when I compare my two phones. The Nexus 4 has been a real disappointment.
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The s3 screen is not better it is just over saturated super amoled junk.
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The s3 screen is not better it is just over saturated super amoled junk.
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opinions.......
Sizzlechest said:
It's washed out compared to the Galaxy S3 because the Galaxy S3's screen is better. Same when I compare my two phones. The Nexus 4 has been a real disappointment.
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No... it's just AMOLED
IPS has far more advantages than AMOLED, including brighter screen, non pentile, no screen burn in, no blue hue, more natural colors.
SAMOLED has more vibrant colors, but as stated multiple times it's oversaturated, and the whites are not white; they're blue(ish)
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As already stated you should definitely have the same image on the screen when you make the comparison. When I compare my n4 to the gnex, which is samoled, the gnex looks horrible.
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Okay guys got the same pic up. What u guys think?
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There is no denying it's over saturated... A canyon isn't suppose to look dark red
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The N4 delivers a much crisper image with brighter and truer colors. Yeah, AMOLEDs look nice. But they aren't natural. It's especially visible after using a phone with an IPS or LCD screen for a while. Put your Galaxy devices in a drawer. Use only your N4 and devices with non-AMOLED screens for a week. Take the Galaxy devices out of the drawer and then compare the screens. I'm sure you'll be shocked.
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God the n4 has such realistic and amazing colors
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There are kernels and apps that help with adjusting display color to your liking
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The N4 delivers a much crisper image with brighter and truer colors. Yeah, AMOLEDs look nice. But they aren't natural. It's especially visible after using a phone with an IPS or LCD screen for a while. Put your Galaxy devices in a drawer. Use only your N4 and devices with non-AMOLED screens for a week. Take the Galaxy devices out of the drawer and then compare the screens. I'm sure you'll be shocked.
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Coming from a super AMOLED.. it took me awhile... Now this displays is hands down is the isssh
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Does the nexus look washed out to you?
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Girn said:
There is no denying it's over saturated... A canyon isn't suppose to look dark red
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I went from an iPhone 4 to a GS2 and I had no idea it was over saturated. In fact I think the screens look brighter, the colours look nicer and I love how you cannot tell the blacks on a screen to the Bezel unless you look really closely. I love how the blacks aren't grey and I'm the kinda person who likes to have a black background and nothing else, also lots of video content and apps have black backgrounds, so it is something I notice. I cannot go back to the greys that LCd screens call black.
Tbh if I look at an OLED screen on its own the colours look perfectly fine and I personally prefer them being strong. The LCDs do tend to look more washed out to me and just not as clear and I have all the bleedthrough from the back lighting. I mean I saw an iPhone 5 the other day and it had so much bleedthrough it was unreal.
Personally I think OLEDs are better and I've never had an issue with brightness, I cannot see pixels on my GS2 screen because I don't hold it 2 inches from my eyes or under a magnifying glass. The viewing angles are much better which is important for a mobile, the black levels are much better and the colours are stronger. I think people forget too that brightness isn't as important in the sun as how much the screen reflects, viewing angles but also stronger colours are easier to see under the sun light. The Galaxy series at least has some of the best screens in terms of the little amount of light it reflects off the screen, I've seen some phones and it is like a mirror :\
Wow the galaxy looks so dirty while the n4 looks crisp
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I went from an iPhone 4 to a GS2 and I had no idea it was over saturated. In fact I think the screens look brighter, the colours look nicer and I love how you cannot tell the blacks on a screen to the Bezel unless you look really closely. I love how the blacks aren't grey and I'm the kinda person who likes to have a black background and nothing else, also lots of video content and apps have black backgrounds, so it is something I notice. I cannot go back to the greys that LCd screens call black.
Personally I think OLEDs are better and I've never had an issue with brightness, I cannot see pixels on my GS2 screen because I don't hold it 2 inches from my eyes or under a magnifying glass. The viewing angles are much better which is important for a mobile, the black levels are much better and the colours are stronger
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You cannot say AMOLED screens have "good blacks" as they do not even produce the black color!
And whites: AMOLED whites suck, but with an LCD, the whites LCDs produce look sooo much better than any AMOLED. and whites are much more common, just open a random website and chances are the background is white (example: google.com)
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ya definately the screen on the n4 is way better than an amoled they are just easier on the eyes for me. try looking at any shade of white/gray and youll see why
N4 screen is good but needs some gamma adjustment. Just look at the clouds on N4 and SIII, It looks like there is information missing form the clouds on N4.
Both screens looks unrealistic compared to a good adjusted lcd screen.
Well I'm going to be returning my Z1 due to the very poor screen.
Everything on the screen isn't sharp enough (funny that as it's a Sharp panel) the colours are very poor. The white are more cream like.
Software is buggy if you turn off optimised backlight.
Ear piece speaker isn't loud enough, probably due to the waterproofing.
Camera is nothing to rave about either.
Yes some of these issues will be sorted out with updates but they might not and I'm not taking the risk on a £550+ device.
It's a shame because I really wanted to like the device but I'll be happy to go back to my Nexus 4!
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Hope you will find a phone that you really love.
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Back to my trusty N4 and maybe the N5. Like I said I really wanted to like the device but even when compared to my nexus 4 the screen on the Z1 looks poor.
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Well I'm going to be returning my Z1 due to the very poor screen.
Everything on the screen isn't sharp enough (funny that as it's a Sharp panel) the colours are very poor. The white are more cream like.
Software is buggy if you turn off optimised backlight.
Ear piece speaker isn't loud enough, probably due to the waterproofing.
Camera is nothing to rave about either.
Yes some of these issues will be sorted out with updates but they might not and I'm not taking the risk on a £550+ device.
It's a shame because I really wanted to like the device but I'll be happy to go back to my Nexus 4!
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I'm having a similar issue with the screen too... Compared to my Nexus 7 screen, the whites are very creamy! Going to see if they're willing to do an exchange!
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just see and compare.,,,
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Display only problem with gamma at angle... which have huge impact...for rest all spec Z1 is better than nexus4
Speaker and headphone sound is s**t i agree
Camera is nothing to rave about only if you compare dedicated camera... in phone it is good
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just see and compare.,,,
Target -- original color
Actual--color the phone shows
Display only problem with gamma at angle... which have huge impact...for rest all spec Z1 is better than nexus4
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The issue for me when I'm in apps, while my Nexus 7 screen shows a bright white background, the Z1's is a bit yellowy in the same app... I'm going to give it a bit more time... Have 28 days, might exchange for a new one when stock comes into stores...
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The issue for me when I'm in apps, while my Nexus 7 screen shows a bright white background, the Z1's is a bit yellowy in the same app... I'm going to give it a bit more time... Have 28 days, might exchange for a new one when stock comes into stores...
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I think.... It is dust on screen glue during assembly. they used cheap production... Some phones are affected by this issue... not sure,,,i had yellow tint when i used invisble shield back in india.. Uk no issue ... maybe temp too
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I think.... It is dust on screen glue during assembly. they used cheap production... Some phones are affected by this issue... not sure,,,i had yellow tint when i used invisble shield back in india.. Uk no issue ... maybe temp too
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To be honest, its just that I used to have an S3 and its has a lot of colour saturation and vibrance due to Super AMOLED screen.. I will compare to display models on Wednesday and see how.. I got 28 days to exchange anyways!
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To be honest, its just that I used to have an S3 and its has a lot of colour saturation and vibrance due to Super AMOLED screen.. I will compare to display models on Wednesday and see how.. I got 28 days to exchange anyways!
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Well, the S3 displays whites with a distracting blue tint. Returning that unit? Lol.
Just give it a chance for it to settle. Try going to *#*#7378423#*#* and run a display test. Check if it's yellowish there. Unless my Xperia Ion has a yellow screen (highly doubt), I compared a C6903 and my ion screen yesterday via the service menu and whites looked white on both screens.
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Well, the S3 displays whites with a distracting blue tint. Returning that unit? Lol.
Just give it a chance for it to settle. Try going to *#*#7378423#*#* and run a display test. Check if it's yellowish there. Unless my Xperia Ion has a yellow screen (highly doubt), I compared a C6903 and my ion screen yesterday via the service menu and whites looked white on both screens.
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Yeah looks pretty white in the test.. I'll hold on compare to other display units when I have a chance on Wednesday and then see how... Its probably my eyes lol..
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Well, the S3 displays whites with a distracting blue tint. Returning that unit? Lol.
Just give it a chance for it to settle. Try going to *#*#7378423#*#* and run a display test. Check if it's yellowish there. Unless my Xperia Ion has a yellow screen (highly doubt), I compared a C6903 and my ion screen yesterday via the service menu and whites looked white on both screens.
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Hey I did that test and its yellowish. Is that a build defect?
Same issue with the Xperia T when I compare it with the Xperia play
Z1 screen quality is not that good due to it probably is (at least certain batch) TN/VA panel.
Z1 is not same panel use as Z Ultra which is IPS.
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To be honest, its just that I used to have an S3 and its has a lot of colour saturation and vibrance due to Super AMOLED screen.. I will compare to display models on Wednesday and see how.. I got 28 days to exchange anyways!
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to me the Amoled screen makes everything look unnatural - like everything looks animated instead of real, it might be pretty to look at but it is just so lacking in detail and texture, I tried watching a movie on anS4 and it looked dark saturated and animated - honestly not really what anyone want
Ever wonder why they don't use Amoled screen on TV's ? if you answer that honestly then you will understand why the Z1 screen is preferable
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to me the Amoled screen makes everything look unnatural - like everything looks animated instead of real, it might be pretty to look at but it is just so lacking in detail and texture, I tried watching a movie on anS4 and it looked dark saturated and animated - honestly not really what anyone want
Ever wonder why they don't use Amoled screen on TV's ? if you answer that honestly then you will understand why the Z1 screen is preferable
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It is difficult to fabricate and costly to fabricate large panel using AMOLED. the life of AMOLED is not high to be used in TV..Content mad is for sRGB gamut not for complete visual wavelength... gaming in AMOLED is awesome... other than that Z1 is awesome..
Tested the camera vs my HTC one. Z1 is pretty good Imo.
Screen has poor viewing angles, but who's really going to look at the phone at these angles really....
And the yellowish screen, not as white as my HTC one, but it's not yellow as others are saying. I remember the s3 and note 2 were yellow so idk
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Tested the camera vs my HTC one. Z1 is pretty good Imo.
Screen has poor viewing angles, but who's really going to look at the phone at these angles really....
And the yellowish screen, not as white as my HTC one, but it's not yellow as others are saying. I remember the s3 and note 2 were yellow so idk
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Can you post a screenshot of what you got in the test?
I don't think the z1 screen is the best out there but not bad. and much better than the old z software is fine here. fast and snappy camera decent. Not better than my 1020 but better than a lot of phones out there.
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I don't think the z1 screen is the best out there but not bad. and much better than the old z software is fine here. fast and snappy camera decent. Not better than my 1020 but better than a lot of phones out there.
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I was comparing screen colours to my nexus 4 and they were well off.
There is no way I'm accepting a device that is worse then the model it's replacing.
Let's see what the N5 brings.
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I was comparing screen colours to my nexus 4 and they were well off.
There is no way I'm accepting a device that is worse then the model it's replacing.
Let's see what the N5 brings.
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Wise choice if you are unhappy with a device then no point keeping it and you really cannot go wrong with the Nexus range anyway.
I have a note 2 since it's release and a gs2 before that, and I'm completely sick of AMOLED because both look terrible due to the issues below.
So, my questions: resolution and PPI aside, of course,
Does your Note 3 screen look like fresh urine?
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Does it have ink spots(easily visible on pitch black backgrounds and in dark rooms)?
Does the colors, especially whites, look grainy?
Thanks for answering!
I should mention I've seen two of my friends Note 3 devices and both have the greenish yellow tint.
I'll have a hard time continuing to buy amoled devices if samsung keeps shipping these defective displays.
Good thread. I am also curious of screen burn in... as in some reviews, they mentioned it and note 2 had some issues with it.
My N9005 screen is not yellow/greenish. Don't have any spots of any kind either.
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Mine has a slight tint but isn't noticeable. Also, the screen is literally pitch black in the dark with no spots.
With my S II i was able to see when the screen was on even tho it showed pitch black. I honestly can't see it with my Note 3. I can't believe they managed to produce a true black color.
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The yellow tint reminds me of my Apple iphone days. So the culprit was indeed Samsung making the panels for apple? HAHAH
To get a less yellow screen on the iphone 4s was like a lottery.
My GS4 also was yellow, but when I tilted the screen a little it went blue.
My screen has a bit of the yellow tint, but also turns bluish when I tilt it. No spots whatsoever though. My last 3 samsung phones all had mura & spots, but this one is perfect.
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With my S II i was able to see when the screen was on even tho it showed pitch black. I honestly can't see it with my Note 3. I can't believe they managed to produce a true black color.
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The true black is from turning the pixels backlight off.
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The true black is from turning the pixels backlight off.
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Yeah, I know. But they said that with S II, but I was still able to see it was on in the dark.
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The White hue is never going to be pure white. I suggest you do a bit of research on how displays actually work. That said, it's the same white as on my IPS-LED laptop.
My SGS3 had horrible black spots, my Note 3 does not have a single one.
If I have to choose between AmoLED with not-eyebreaking white, and LCD with black that more resembles a light grey, I'll settle for the amoLED without a second doubt.
I can't stand white on a display to begin with. I'm photosensitive and prone to migraines. it's too bloody painful to look at anything white and lit. Of course every single idiotic designer insists on using as much white as possible, because 'that's the trend!'. No, that's Apple copying. But then you do own an iMac, so nobody accused you of being original... (I'm not talking to anyone in particular.)
The biggest advantage to AmoLED over LCD is that black is BLACK. And anything black doesn't use power.
That said, setting it to Movie mode gives off much more natural colours.
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Yeah, I know. But they said that with S II, but I was still able to see it was on in the dark.
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I'm not sure about the S II but the note 3 is definitely true black with pixels actually OFF. Get an all black image and go in a pitch dark room and you will see nothing...
I have a PS Vita and that is blotchy in the dark... shame.
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I'm not sure about the S II but the note 3 is definitely true black with pixels actually OFF. Get an all black image and go in a pitch dark room and you will see nothing...
I have a PS Vita and that is blotchy in the dark... shame.
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I'm not sure you understand what I'm saying.
I say Note 3 has the pitch black, that my S II didn't have. Even tho they stated that the S II should've it back in time
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I'm not sure you understand what I'm saying.
I say Note 3 has the pitch black, that my S II didn't have. Even tho they stated that the S II should've it back in time
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Ohh.. my bad
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Ohh.. my bad
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No it doens't look like fresh urine, thrut be told.. note 2 screen sucked .. low light , bad whites ( no whites..) etc .. note 1 screen was great .. but was a battery hog..
and when the screen is displaying black.. it's just like the phone is turn of ..the first TRUE black I have encountered, yes they say that with every amoled they release... but in practice we know that is not the true .
Samsung just put together the best of both screens (note 1 and note 2) and then some more !
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No it doens't look like fresh urine, thrut be told.. note 2 screen sucked .. low light , bad whites ( no whites..) etc .. note 1 screen was great .. but was a battery hog..
and when the screen is displaying black.. it's just like the phone is turn of ..the first TRUE black I have encountered, yes they say that with every amoled they release... but in practice we know that is not the true .
Samsung just put together the best of both screens (note 1 and note 2) and then some more !
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The blacks on my note 3 are true. On my sgs4 they were green. Typical QC mass productions I guess. Wife's sgs4 was perfect. Visible only in low light.
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If you hate then get a different phone. Not like someone is forcing to buy it. There are several high end phones that use lcd panels.
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So, what is the fraction of units that does not have any issue with the display whatsoever? My wife's Note 2 has perfect display, but my Note 3 has different brightness/contrast/saturation on top of the screen compared to the bottom... On monday I am to go and replace the display on warranty but I am affraid that the new screen will not be any better or even worse... In my case there is no color tint or lines or anything else just that difference in brightness... Is it worth it?
My Note 3 had no display problems. Same quality as my S4 which is great
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I have a note 2 since it's release and a gs2 before that, and I'm completely sick of AMOLED because both look terrible due to the issues below.
So, my questions: resolution and PPI aside, of course,
Does your Note 3 screen look like fresh urine?
Does it have ink spots(easily visible on pitch black backgrounds and in dark rooms)?
Does the colors, especially whites, look grainy?
Thanks for answering!
I should mention I've seen two of my friends Note 3 devices and both have the greenish yellow tint.
I'll have a hard time continuing to buy amoled devices if samsung keeps shipping these defective displays.
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I have also had galaxy note 2 and I'm now on the galaxy note 3. I had to order a replacement of one of my galaxy note threes because I did find the yellow tent with blue green as you describe. But other phone is quite good in color. It has very good whites. However it does suffer with a bit of a pinkish or darker discoloration in the lower third of the screen mostly in the right corner. I am awaiting a replacement from my carrier. Hopefully it will be better than this one. However I have kind of gotten used to it and otherwise the display is brilliant.
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Limeybastard said:
The yellow tint reminds me of my Apple iphone days. So the culprit was indeed Samsung making the panels for apple? HAHAH
To get a less yellow screen on the iphone 4s was like a lottery.
My GS4 also was yellow, but when I tilted the screen a little it went blue.
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How does the same issue I had with one of my note 3 phones. It was similar to your galaxy S4. I think that there are probably more than one factory where the screens are manufactured. There must be one batch of screams coming from a factory that have a warmer more yellow tint that shifts strongly to Bluegreen when angling the screen. The other batch of screens must be more in the wider redder with only minimal tinting when shifting the screen on an angle.