Will the Note II Have different dimensions with the US carriers? - Galaxy Note II General

The Note II recently passed trough the FCC for the AT&T, T-mobile and Verizon version.
I wanted to put in a link, but since i am a new user, I can't.
What immediately struck my eye is that the drawings are all different shapes. I don't know how far we can rely on these drawings or shapes to be accurate but it worries me. They did the same with the Galaxy s2. My t-mobile version is completely different compared to the international version for example.
Also when you read some of the test documents on the FCC website, it mentions some dimensions of the phone and they are for each carrier different.
I hope this is not the case, because it would make it harder to find accessories.

engadget[dot]com/2012/09/28/samsung-galaxy-note-ii-variants-for-att-t-mobile-verizon-at-fcc/
^I'm also a new poster, so you'll have to append the actual "." where it says [dot]. I don't know anything about FCC documents, but as far as leaked images and non-FCC reports go, there's no indication that we're going to get the debacle that unfolded pre S III days. Pictures of Sprint, Verizon, AT&T, and US Cellular variants (some of them are test units) have already been leaked or released and they all retain the same shape with the only cosmetic differences being the branding.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/28/...or-att-t-mobile-verizon-at-fcc/#disqus_thread here s a screenshot

Thanks for the tip Paul2834 and for the screenshot deeznutz1977.
And indeed we saw the devices for the carriers and nothing suggested different shapes for each.,
So I hope this is the case. If you read some of the test results from PCtest engineering laboratory Inc for the FCC they mention that the dimensions for the Verizon device are 80,5mm x 151mm, while the same company states the dimensions for the T-Mobile version are 77mm x 146mm.
But I guess we will have to wait until released. They kept the same form for the SIII, so I would be surprised they didn't do this for the Note II, especially if they are launching them all at the same time.

I'll be buying the T-Mobile variant and I actually wouldn't mind the Note II being a bit smaller. I don't think we'll have to wait until release. T-Mobile will hopefully give us some release pics or specs in advance.

It would also surprise me if the phones had different dimensions.
This launch is going exactly the same as the SIII and they were all the same.
If I were a betting man I would say they will all be the same size.

What is the likelihood that the actual device is different that the FCC filing. The papers are what 2-3 weeks old? It's not like it was some super early test model then right? One would have to assume that of these were being tested after ifa that if they were going to be the same dimensions the FCC would show that. Or does this happen often that FCC documents are off on specs? I am just hoping they are all the same that's most likely a deal breaker for me.

The Only carrier that we have not seen yet is Verizon.
There are pictures floating around o Sprints version, ATT Version and T-Mobile version and they are all the same.
ATT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910994
Sprint
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP-DAlLBtC4
T-Mobile
http://cdn.gottabemobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/gnote2specsheet-575x515.png

all variants are identical.

When is the last time that phones have had different dimensions across carriers?

Very interesting....here is a picture of Sprints test device with the back popped off. Notice the corners are squared
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Very interesting....here is a picture of Sprints test device with the back popped off. Notice the corners are squared
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That was most likely their prototype for testing.
Here is a video of Sprints Version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP-DAlLBtC4
and here is off Sprints website:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...t-introduces-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-this-fall

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The Only carrier that we have not seen yet is Verizon.
There are pictures floating around o Sprints version, ATT Version and T-Mobile version and they are all the same.
ATT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910994
Sprint
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP-DAlLBtC4
T-Mobile
http://cdn.gottabemobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/gnote2specsheet-575x515.png
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na7q said:
all variants are identical.
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hope you guys are right

Hotobu said:
When is the last time that phones have had different dimensions across carriers?
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Really???
Samsung Galaxy S, Samsung Galaxy S2.
It was a pretty big deal for the Galaxy S3 to be identical across all carriers.

T-Mobile Version.
They will all be the same. This confirms it even more
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/03/t-m...ed-in-the-wild-is-that-a-branded-home-button/

This is good news.
Also like the fact that the branding of the providers in on the back with this smartphone.
My t989 (T-mobile's Galaxy s2) has it in the front. now you can get a new back cover and can loose the carrier logo

Doesn't make sense to even ask this question. The screen size is one of the biggest selling point of this device. Making it smaller kinda defeats the purpose of it.

Hotobu said:
When is the last time that phones have had different dimensions across carriers?
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2011.

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Samsung Galaxy Within (S2) for Sprint First Pictures!

Looks official and hope it is. Exciting stuff, definitely my next phone.. Evos been good to me but can't wait for this! Also looks like it's coming equipped with 2.3.4
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there is no 4G stamp after Sprint on the back so it is a nice fake.
also word on the street is that all the US variants of the SGS2 will have the Nvidia Tegra2 chipset, so not much of a difference from other phones on the market. I personally wont own another Samsung for awhile, as they have little to no support for the community , and really just suck for delivering stuff that satisfies US carriers so updates coming to the US take forever!
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there is no 4G stamp after Sprint on the back so it is a nice fake.
also word on the street is that all the US variants of the SGS2 will have the Nvidia Tegra2 chipset, so not much of a difference from other phones on the market. I personally wont own another Samsung for awhile, as they have little to no support for the community , and really just suck for delivering stuff that satisfies US carriers so updates coming to the US take forever!
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Uh.. As far as I know, the phone won't have 4G...
Move to the SAMSUNG FORUMS
Isn't there a samsung thread for a post like this I know there is so please put it over there. It doesn't belong in the EVO forums.
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Uh.. As far as I know, the phone won't have 4G...
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I don't have any info one way or the other, but that wouldn't make a lot of sense. The Epic has it. The two current phones it will sit next to (Photon and E3D) have it. This is flagship phone, and it wouldn't make sense for it to lack 4G.
Not saying you're wrong, just saying it wouldn't make sense.
It wouldn't make any sense for this phone to NOT have 4G, what are you smoking?
Even if Sprint switches to LTE, it won't happen anytime soon, so that surely won't impact this phone.
Also, the rumor about the U.S. variants having Tegra 2 processors isn't entirely right, it was rumored other territories might have the Tegra 2 included, but the U.S. is the least likely to have the Tegra 2. Not saying there's no chance, but it seems pretty slim.
reddragon72 said:
there is no 4G stamp after Sprint on the back so it is a nice fake.
also word on the street is that all the US variants of the SGS2 will have the Nvidia Tegra2 chipset, so not much of a difference from other phones on the market. I personally wont own another Samsung for awhile, as they have little to no support for the community , and really just suck for delivering stuff that satisfies US carriers so updates coming to the US take forever!
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The E3D doesn't say 4G either and its not fake.
tapa tapa tapa
If this is legit then it looks like I found my upgrade!
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Beejis said:
If this is legit then it looks like I found my upgrade!
Pocket posted...
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Ditto
Swyped from my EVO
looking at the back shows sprint, but i want to see the front.
specifically whether it will have 4 capacitive buttons or will have the dpad (looks like one at least) of the european versions
Samsung Mobile president JK Shin recently told Korean reporters that "We expect to release the Galaxy S II in the U.S. market sometime in August."
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Photos of AT&T Galaxy S II with a slide out keyboard including benchmarks??

BGR has a new post that has photos of what they believe to be the AT&T version of Galaxy S II with a slide out keyboard. It also includes a couple of benchmarks; Linkpack and Quadrant. I can't believe that AT&T would do this... looks like I'm not getting the AT&T version...
http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/26/exclusive-images-of-atts-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-revealed/
oh my GOD thats ugly!! good thing i live in the UK, no carriers changing my device
Looks really ugly, it will just add to phone's thickness.. and even the camera looks weird in those photos!
Electricpig notes that the Linpack benchmark is about 18.6% higher than an unlocked Galaxy S II (58.544 MFLOPS vs 47.606 MFLOPS)... leading them to suspect that they bumped the CPU from 1.2 to 1.4. However, Quadrant doesn't seem to show much improvement (3056) but then again, Quadrant isn't the most consistent benchmark.
http://electricpig.co.uk/2011/07/26/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-slider-photographed-benchmarked-and-ready-for-prime-time/
is it just me or does the phone seem smaller than a international gs2 across the front of the screen? did they drop it down to 4"?
If Sprint also drastically changes the design then they have lost my purchase.
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is it just me or does the phone seem smaller than a international gs2 across the front of the screen? did they drop it down to 4"?
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Here's another pic...
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Corporate users love keyboards. They are also a prime target for LTE. Going this route kind of makes sense if this is their first LTE phone launched. I'm glad I got the unbasterdized version. Remember, the Z/R got FCC approval on AT&T's bands too. Maybe they'll carry that one also as their more consumer oriented version.
i'm not convinced this is att's official (or only) sgs2. the layout is completely different: camera placement, bottom physical button for instance.
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i'm not convinced this is att's official (or only) sgs2. the layout is completely different: camera placement, bottom physical button for instance.
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Does this...
Or this...
Look like this...
SGH-i897 is the model number for AT&T's SGS1 so the model number for whatever phone's in the first post uses the same naming convention. Last round, Sprint got the keyboard. This time it looks like it'll go to AT&T.
damn, you're right. our only hope is this is not AT&T's version.
My biggest concern is that AT&T will screw with it so much that we'll need special developers for it. I think I would lose my mind if I went to flash a super duper kernel and it blew up in my hands.
Thank goodness I got the unmolested version of this device. Leave it to US carriers to take something amazing then ruin it.
The horror.. The horror...
diomed said:
My biggest concern is that AT&T will screw with it so much that we'll need special developers for it. I think I would lose my mind if I went to flash a super duper kernel and it blew up in my hands.
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Even if they left the majority of the phone as-is, you'll never be able to flash international ROMs due to the different radio(s). I'm sure devs working on it will be able to re-use a lot of what's already been developed but the phone will be too different to share s/w with other versions.
I just got really dissapointed really quickly. Im fine with having four buttons but the slide out keyboard is almost the point of being useless
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Even if they left the majority of the phone as-is, you'll never be able to flash international ROMs due to the different radio(s). I'm sure devs working on it will be able to re-use a lot of what's already been developed but the phone will be too different to share s/w with other versions.
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that is entirely untrue...
The captivate for ATT can use international sgs 1 roms with a kernal that rotates the screen correctly the only difference is that the FM radio didn't work on the captivate as there was no FM radio.
ATT world phones use the same international frequencies as international phones. i currently have an internationall sgs2 and am using it with att with 4g.
keyboard not for me.... Good that I got the international sgs2
Also the Samsung galaxy R kinda looks nice and solid, even though lower specs and slightly thicker.
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I'm not sure how I feel about this. Its like they didn't want to release a phone thinner than the iPhone and maybe this even dissolves them of being liable and possibly being sued for selling it as-is. I'm not trying to be a fandroid or anything but I can't help think the ongoing legal battles between samsung and Apple somehow effected the outcome ... disenchanted ... but still optimistic ... would be nice to get new dimensions and weight of this bastardizes phone.
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Big plus is that it's alegedly equipped to access Att LTE.
This data connection really has me teetering on selling it.

Samsung GalaxySII models for AT&T, T-Mobile and Sprint break cover

First off I feel this warranted a new thread altho we have some very similar.
But this provides more solid info that what I saw we currently have.
Merge if needed.
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So while we reported yesterday that the Samsung Galaxy S II won’t be heading to Verizon, the silver lining comes in the fact that the three other major wireless carriers will indeed be getting their own models. So, the big question regarding whether or not Samsung would take the previous path in releasing these new models, in creating different looking devices for each carrier has been the question since the beginning. Thanks to Pocketnow, we can finally say that we (may) know what the handsets will look like.
There isn’t a lot of information going around here. In fact, where the above image came from is anyone’s guess. And because of that, we may want to take the above leak with the normal amount of salt on hand. We’re not sure if these are the final devices for each carrier, but we imagine that it’s certainly possible. So stay tuned, as Samsung’s event is just around the corner and we’ll have all the details we could ever want (hopefully).
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http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...dels-for-att-t-mobile-and-sprint-break-cover/
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cool ****.
still waiting for a ketboard
austin420 said:
cool ****.
still waiting for a ketboard
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+1
Keyboard (a good one, not some PoS without a dedicated number line) is make or break for me. That's why I chose the epic over the other decent phones w/keyboards out there to begin with.
tigerknight said:
+1
Keyboard (a good one, not some PoS without a dedicated number line) is make or break for me. That's why I chose the epic over the other decent phones w/keyboards out there to begin with.
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It won't have a keyboard unfortunately
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When I was at Sprint the other day, they told me the Epic 2 with a keyboard, is coming out in December. I can't wait!
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How much $??? idk if u should wait for nexus prime...
Thank god no keyboard. Hopefully for the rest of you they make another version but I'm sick if the extra heft of the epic
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deano0714 said:
How much $??? idk if u should wait for nexus prime...
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Sprint usually keeps the premium phones around the $199 mark, so I wouldn't expect this to be any different. No price has been announced, but I would expect that price point, but certainly nothing higher than $249.
Me personally, I'm waiting for details on the Nexus Prime to do anything. By then, the Epic will have GB and other goodies to go with it, and the SGS2 will already have ROMs etc associated with it. I have to rely on my phone quite a bit for business, so I'm not too eager to be an early adopter. I want to ensure all the small kinks and quirks with the SGS2 are worked out before I jump on it.
Nice to see confirmation of the design in the previously-shown pic that we assumed was Sprint. Looks like a solid design. I'm going to have a real problem deciding between this and waiting for a Sprint Nexus Prime variant.
Also, thanks for citing your source instead of merely ripping off an entire article as your own.
When the SGS1 EPIC came out it was $249 and then after the 2011 the price dropped. I hope they start out at $199 cause im just gonna add a 3rd line to my account to buy the SGS2 and give my son a phone! My wife will be taking my EPIC...

jealous of sprint version sgs2

man im from the US, ive always loved how buying phones from overseas gave me the edge on everyone else 6 months before anyone else here. but this year dang.. sprint really stepped it up. bigger screen without going bigger phone, they gave it a better battery, 4G, and the biggest thing, is they gave it an LED notification light.. sighhh
honestly i dont know why samsung wants to make their flagship as skinny and light as possible.. actually i do know why.. to beat the iphone.. yeah alright, youve proved you can make a phone so skinny and smooth that it literally sides out of your pocket when you sit down.. i would much rather have a wider phone, and it have a 3000mah battery in it.. a thicker phone would be more comfortable to hold anyway.
the only down side to having the sprint version is that big "sprint" logo on the front.. oh wait, they didnt put one on there.. -__- ugh
check out this side by side pic. the AT&T version is the same build as ours, so use it as a reference.
anywho.. thoughts?
order: AT&T: 4.27in screen T-Mobile: whocares Sprint: 4.52in screen
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To be honest, who gives a ****?
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um, and now they have the note overseas, which ****s all over the epic touch 4g. Oh and btw, all that stuff you mentioned, like 4g (which the AT&T version has as well) bigger screen, and LED notification, DIDNT come with a bigger cpu. So all that means is the epic touch has more things beating down the cpu than we have on the i777/i9100. Im not jealous, if i wanted a notification LED i woulda gotten a HTC, and if i wanted a bigger screen i woulda got a note, which has all of the **** you mentioned plus more, but a bigger cpu to make up for the difference.
I think this is a rant over the international SGS2? keeping in mind that all the the carrier versions of this phone should be an improvement from the original international SGS2 since they were released later? Sprint is CDMA anways, so fail.
"Bigger screen but not a bigger phone"
Who told you that??? Do your homework. Fail! Worse CPU! Fail! Cdma! Fail! Updates? Fail!... Really nothing to be jealous about.
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Regarding battery, there are a few options for am extended battery so that's a non issue, you're welcome to trade size for battery life (and without a huge screen eating it). The 2000mah just makes the back flat, awesome. The screen is already a great size for me. Led=bln. And let me know how many months behind the sprint version is for getting updates. I had the old epic, it was like an extra 7 months for gingerbread. Lots of testing to make sure carrier iq and their charge $30 tethering option works
I'm very glad i got the i9100. Won't ever go back.
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anyhoo, you can have notifications via BLN
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To be honest, who gives a ****?
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Lmfao +1
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You wont be so jelly next christmas when those phones are still waiting for their first ICS update.
Never knew Samsung used a physical search button like LG?!
WiMax 4G is typically slower than HSPA+ 4G and it drains battery a lot faster too. And when the Epic 4G Touch drops down to EVDO, which happens often, network speeds are dog slow.
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Never knew Samsung used a physical search button like LG?!
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It's always been like that for the US carrier-branded versions of Samsung's phones; I'm not sure if the US carriers feel that Americans need a familiar four-button layout, or if US patents are stricter regarding the button and they're avoiding yet another lawsuit from Apple.
But yeah. If you want a big screen, get a Nexus or a Note.
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bigger screen without going bigger phone
anywho.. thoughts?
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That picture is a lie, the sprint version is the biggest sgs2 out there.
At&t = 126 x 66 x 8.9 mm
Tmobile = 130 x 69 x 9 mm
Sprint = 130 x 70 x 10 mm
0semaj0 said:
I think this is a rant over the international SGS2? keeping in mind that all the the carrier versions of this phone should be an improvement from the original international SGS2 since they were released later? Sprint is CDMA anways, so fail.
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In North America, carrier versions are almost ALWAYS worse than the international version.
Only exception seems to be the I777 - it's about a draw. Failure-prone mechanical home button replaced with capacitive buttons (good), NFC (good), audio setup is just different enough that you can't use I9100 audio libraries (very bad when combined with AT&T's ****ty update policy).
The Sprint version sucks - its radio service is unreliable as hell. The RIL will frequently just die, requiring a reboot.

LG G4 Recall

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Haven't heard anything and like you, a search turned up nothing. Keep us updated if you hear anything else. Seems really strange. What could be so bad that would warrant pulling remaining stock?
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I haven't heard anything either. Keep us posted.
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Very interested if this would be happening with Verizon too.
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Then they haven't been working there long enough to remember the LG Rumor debacle, or the Palm Pre. When I was fixing rumors due to shredding flex cables and faulty charging ports, our manager authorized free replacements with brand new Rumor 2s, which broke... Just as much, really. Seriously, the original Rumor's port would snap off if a baby sneezed in the same zip code. I have nightmares about that phone and the 65 billion screws it had.
The Palm Pre had the Oreo effect, where the two halves would just start twisting freely, like you were taking apart an oreo. And of course, Palm wouldn't let us repair them, so we had to just swap them with refurbs. We had people that were on their 7th, 8th, 9th devices, but didn't want a different model because of Palm loyalty, and the fact that the Pre had a REALLY nice OS, as compared to early Android.
hellot1M said:
I've talked to a few repair centers. This is most replaced device in the history of Sprint.
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I've already order the accessories, but not the device. Guess I have to wait a while, I really don't want to end up with the Nexus 5X.
hellot1M said:
I've talked to a few repair centers. This is most replaced device in the history of Sprint. The galaxy s2 is a close second. Most stores refuse to sell the device because of so many returns.
One of the main hardware issues is the screen splitting down the middle and then becoming unresponsive.
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The forum does not seem to be exploding with this issue, most we find is this thread on it here and see my post lower down that links to sprint users. All of two pages
Things are quiet because LG is replacing the screens under warranty. In my market they offer a 6 month after purchase screen replacement offer. Samsung does the same as well. This means if this problem does not occur within 6 months then it ain't going to happen.
Knowing that this issue may happen and if it does all it takes is a simple screen replacement that too under warranty means i would be less excited if this occurred. An inconvenience to head off to the service center but at least i know i will get it back very likely on the same day because this thing is easy to repair.
Not knowing this can happen otoh would be frightening.
Will be interesting what Sprint will say when I take mine in tomorrow......I will show them this for sure if I get any hassle......I just want my phone!! Grrrr!!
EU model H815
Any idea if the EU model is also affected? I'm waiting for my new G4 to be delivered. Was happy until I saw this thread...
joaste said:
Any idea if the EU model is also affected? I'm waiting for my new G4 to be delivered. Was happy until I saw this thread...
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All i found was the recall for sprint model.
I think its only the first batch of sprint models affected.
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Hmm, makes me wonder if it's just the Sprint CDMA model.
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Hmm, makes me wonder if it's just the Sprint CDMA model.
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It's a recall that only effected the Sprint, not necessarily CDMA as Verizon is not impacted, but something Sprint added software wise that created a hardware issue. The major symptom is the screen half snow or static, but other issues such as overheating, freezes, bootloops, stuck on LG logo during boot, touch response issues and network connectivity issues. This effects all models manufactured prior to 10/5/15, in which LG modified the hardware to not have an issue with what ever Sprint does with their software. Knock on wood, the only issue I have had is the network connectivity (average 30% without signal) and constant dropping signal and jumping between 3G and LTE. Kinda a pain in the butt, but I do have to say its improved with ZV6, even though not completely gone. Mine was manufactured May 2015.
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Can someone comment on exactly what the "issue" is?
Is this sprint only
Is this sprint only
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Is this sprint only
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Read up a post or two.
Is this a horizontal split or vertical? My girlfriend's G4 has a horizontal split that we're not sure how it came to be.
https://goo.gl/photos/7KKUxQjU2UsiWfwL6
Tx Redneck said:
Is this a horizontal split or vertical? My girlfriend's G4 has a horizontal split that we're not sure how it came to be.
https://goo.gl/photos/7KKUxQjU2UsiWfwL6
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This is the issue as found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63041563
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