[Discussion] Linuxonandroid - Atrix bugs and Webtop version - Atrix 4G General

Please use this thread to ask questions about bugs the atrix is suffering related to the Linuxonandroid project, or to ask questions about the webtop version of this project.
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How is the develop of the dock version ??
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Will you still be using the chroot method, or some other way?
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Where to start...
Zac,
A wonderful thing to see this thread start so quickly. / I was the one who posted a few days ago about running Deb Wheezy based on your build guide. But I'd like to help push this effort in any way i can. (and I can always run 2 img files since I boot my image from term as opposed to the app...)
My goal reason for the purchase was to be able to bring up X, and launch VPN and RDP / With the build I hacked together I am able to do so with XFCE / VPNc and remmeia / and as far as browsers go, iceweasel was the only one that would semi work. (chrome seg faults / and web would seem to launch and then just disappear...)
When it comes to the webtop, I know there have been some posts about chaning the resolution down to 120 that seemingly puts JB into tablet mode, but I found that to be less than useful once i got into chroot. I've never been happy with the display fonts on the webtop. (once i had a config where the fonts were clear etc, but i did something and lost it... ) But the biggest hurtle there I think in part is that it seems to mirror the 960x540 res / and once you increase it you have to pan. / If you use fit to screen in the menu it will fit it to screen but then the mouse clicks don't pass through...
If you are looking for bugs - what image would be the most helpful / easiest for your to work on? (deb/ubuntu/etc) and full/small etc.
as i will load that to be more useful...
and does it matter what the base rom is. (currently I'm on epinter's CM10 rom updated yesterday) if keeping things more uniform would help I can pop something else on for the time being...
One of the main issues I was getting when running the images was the desktop being gray on the ubuntu 12.04 image like everyone else, but even after getting another desktop loaded on certain programs would not launch. When i would try to launch them from terminal I would get a seg fault. also when I tried to step through the commands in the ~/.vnc/xstartup I was getting a seg fault there as well. (So I am guessing that's why the gray screen when I VNCed. / So the second question is, when I do get a Seg Fault, is there anything additional I can provide that may aid in diagnosing the issue?
Thank you again!
James

Bluemotion said:
Will you still be using the chroot method, or some other way?
Waiting eagerly.:laugh:
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The 'normal' method is to use chroot (after all it does work very well just needs refining), when it comes to the webtop not 100% yet
Goindrinkn said:
Zac,
A wonderful thing to see this thread start so quickly. / I was the one who posted a few days ago about running Deb Wheezy based on your build guide. But I'd like to help push this effort in any way i can. (and I can always run 2 img files since I boot my image from term as opposed to the app...)
My goal reason for the purchase was to be able to bring up X, and launch VPN and RDP / With the build I hacked together I am able to do so with XFCE / VPNc and remmeia / and as far as browsers go, iceweasel was the only one that would semi work. (chrome seg faults / and web would seem to launch and then just disappear...)
When it comes to the webtop, I know there have been some posts about chaning the resolution down to 120 that seemingly puts JB into tablet mode, but I found that to be less than useful once i got into chroot. I've never been happy with the display fonts on the webtop. (once i had a config where the fonts were clear etc, but i did something and lost it... ) But the biggest hurtle there I think in part is that it seems to mirror the 960x540 res / and once you increase it you have to pan. / If you use fit to screen in the menu it will fit it to screen but then the mouse clicks don't pass through...
If you are looking for bugs - what image would be the most helpful / easiest for your to work on? (deb/ubuntu/etc) and full/small etc.
as i will load that to be more useful...
and does it matter what the base rom is. (currently I'm on epinter's CM10 rom updated yesterday) if keeping things more uniform would help I can pop something else on for the time being...
One of the main issues I was getting when running the images was the desktop being gray on the ubuntu 12.04 image like everyone else, but even after getting another desktop loaded on certain programs would not launch. When i would try to launch them from terminal I would get a seg fault. also when I tried to step through the commands in the ~/.vnc/xstartup I was getting a seg fault there as well. (So I am guessing that's why the gray screen when I VNCed. / So the second question is, when I do get a Seg Fault, is there anything additional I can provide that may aid in diagnosing the issue?
Thank you again!
James
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Hey James,
Really the biggest issue with know of right now is the grey screen, and with the large ubuntu image unity not rendering correctly. So this will be the image I will be working on first.
As far as base ROMs it really shouldnt matter to much (of cause you will need a stock based ROM for webtop) I will be sticking to a stock base for now so if you where testing from a CM ROM that would be very useful to cover both main bases.
Just pointing out the issues is a good start, on Monday I plan to get cracking with it (had to push it back after not finishing unpacking and sorting my office yet) and should start on the bug squishing, and webtop version will be once I get a lapdock which should be once the device fund has finished.

2x mouse pointer
hello
I have the Atrix with the HD Dock and bluethooth mouse and keyboard.
I'm running Nottachtrix ROM which has HDMI landscape mirroring, this means I can use linuxonandroid with a mouse and keyboard in the dock. The problem is it doesn't see the mouse as a true mouse. I get two pointers, one from the VNC and one which is the bluetooth mouse.
Is there away of using the mouse normally?
thanks for any help
Jonnym

Hitting the menu button or fn-f1 should bring up the vnc program options. One of the choices is "input method" there's a few choices and you may to see what works best for you. (The options are like touch,pan,zoom and various combos if those. I haven't found the perfect one but it would the there I expect.

I've got problems on epinter CM10.
1. I can run only Debian
2. can't get su in Debian
3. sometimes, VNC says "disconnected"

ovitz said:
I've got problems on epinter CM10.
1. I can run only Debian
2. can't get su in Debian
3. sometimes, VNC says "disconnected"
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Ovitz - yes. This is in part why Zac has this thread too. It seems the tegra2 is a little finicky. I was only able to run Debian as well and only with xfce. I created my own image to do so. It seemed to me that the desktop manager would seg fault and then everything else was an issue. A good start may be to go in to the home did for your user and look in the .vnc hidden directory. There will be a file localhost:0.log (the number may change but should be 0 on the standard image. When you locate the file you can use "cat localhost:0.log" to view it or even better add "> filename.txt" to redirect it to a file. And then you can post it. My guess is you will see a segmentation fault in there.
*disclaimer - I'm just an excited user that has been hoping and waiting to get this worked out on the atrix and not a dev...

Goindrinkn said:
Hitting the menu button or fn-f1 should bring up the vnc program options. One of the choices is "input method" there's a few choices and you may to see what works best for you. (The options are like touch,pan,zoom and various combos if those. I haven't found the perfect one but it would the there I expect.
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I tried all the input method options available on androidVNC none were that good.
I'm a bit ruined as I've just unlocked the bootloader and installed nottachtrix with faux1.3 kernal and webtop flys, no lag at all, it even runs bbc iplayer HD.
I was hoping to to find a webtop replacement, as I use it alot, so I can run ICS or Jellybean but the combination of the pointer and the complicated start up is making me hesitate. Great to have it working though big thanks to the devs.
jonnym

Jonnym said:
I tried all the input method options available on androidVNC none were that good.
I'm a bit ruined as I've just unlocked the bootloader and installed nottachtrix with faux1.3 kernal and webtop flys, no lag at all, it even runs bbc iplayer HD.
I was hoping to to find a webtop replacement, as I use it alot, so I can run ICS or Jellybean but the combination of the pointer and the complicated start up is making me hesitate. Great to have it working though big thanks to the devs.
jonnym
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This is a product of the client. My mouse arrow floats above the remote one but anytime I click it jumps to the location and clicks as well. / I am not sure if there are "seemless" 1 to 1 clients with regards to the mouse. But there certainly are a number of vnc clients out there beyond androidvnc. I am sure for each one someone could tell you why it is the best ever or sucks....

Jonnym said:
I tried all the input method options available on androidVNC none were that good.
I'm a bit ruined as I've just unlocked the bootloader and installed nottachtrix with faux1.3 kernal and webtop flys, no lag at all, it even runs bbc iplayer HD.
I was hoping to to find a webtop replacement, as I use it alot, so I can run ICS or Jellybean but the combination of the pointer and the complicated start up is making me hesitate. Great to have it working though big thanks to the devs.
jonnym
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I would suggest trying another vnc viewer others might handle it better
p.s Im back guys my internet finally got sorted

Can someone make a guide to make this work?...I read a lot but I cant make it..
from the (m)ATRIX...

Cocolopes said:
Can someone make a guide to make this work?...I read a lot but I cant make it..
from the (m)ATRIX...
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Sure what issues are you having
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Dude, what the heck? Are you going to post this same thing in every thread you come across? Posting the same thing multiple times is against the forum rules. You opened a new thread about this, that is more than enough.

zacthespack said:
Sure what issues are you having
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Well..I download the img...and run the terminal...but in the vnc I cant get the gui...its just a blank screen.
from the (m)ATRIX...

Cocolopes said:
Well..I download the img...and run the terminal...but in the vnc I cant get the gui...its just a blank screen.
from the (m)ATRIX...
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Ok do you get any errors n the terminal while its booting?
balintmaci said:
ics was leaked finally so it would be nice to have a linus inside ics webtop once you get there. thanks
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Great! Well my lap dock will be here tomorrow (got held in customs) so we can get down to business
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Related

Vogue Android General Discussion

Well since we have a thread for everything else and no place for general discussion. Here it is.
zenulator said:
Well since we have a thread for everything else and no place for general discussion. Here it is.
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i don't know about anyone els but the one and only problem i have with hero is incoming call response time, zenulator and others have worked hard on speed. and right now i'm using the latest vogue hero.sqfs bundle. and it is pretty fast. i just need to be able to receive calls a little faster instead of one ring before vm.
i'm asking anyone that codes or knows how to code to look into what can be done to improve this.
i know that having phone not vibrate on calls, using ogg ringtones help a little, the renicer script aswell. but is there anything else we can do?
jamezelle said:
i don't know about anyone els but the one and only problem i have with hero is incoming call response time, zenulator and others have worked hard on speed. and right now i'm using the latest vogue hero.sqfs bundle. and it is pretty fast. i just need to be able to receive calls a little faster instead of one ring before vm.
i'm asking anyone that codes or knows how to code to look into what can be done to improve this.
i know that having phone not vibrate on calls, using ogg ringtones help a little, the renicer script aswell. but is there anything else we can do?
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if someone ports the htc ril, this might fix the problem.
tatnai said:
if someone ports the htc ril, this might fix the problem.
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Speaking of that, whats this all about on the Vogue-Hero google page? I've downloaded it to keep a copy on hand but what improvements will we see with that file?
i was using the latest hero build with the basefiles from 9/08 and everything was pretty smooth. then i updated this morning to basefiles from 9/15 and everything is slower. takes longer to switch pages and respond to anything i do.
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if someone ports the htc ril, this might fix the problem.
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The HTC RIL is closed source. Its not a question of porting.
Here is my problem. I keep trying the latest donuts and sqsh based systems and even with fresh data files, I always get the dreaded Blank home screen with no icons. It takes around a minute to repaint them. The version I keep going back to is the cupcake-based hero themed system. It is distinguished by only having one arrow on the left side of the app drawer handle. It works great and hardly ever does the slow down thing. I just hope that when we get BT all sorted out that either the image will work with this system or the sqsh based systems are up to the same level of performance that this one is.
Cheers.
katmandu421 said:
Here is my problem. I keep trying the latest donuts and sqsh based systems and even with fresh data files, I always get the dreaded Blank home screen with no icons. It takes around a minute to repaint them. The version I keep going back to is the cupcake-based hero themed system. It is distinguished by only having one arrow on the left side of the app drawer handle. It works great and hardly ever does the slow down thing. I just hope that when we get BT all sorted out that either the image will work with this system or the sqsh based systems are up to the same level of performance that this one is.
Cheers.
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I don't have any of these problems with my builds so you might be missing a step or using the wrong files. Granted the xrom and cyanogen builds at vogue-hero are experimental/beta quality and hence why they stay there and don't go to the main vogue-android page. The latest xrom is using cupcake/donut built from the android master branch and is as fast as any build out there with the right setup and you can't use it with an existing data.img because it has a different code base. And sqsh has nothing to do with the level of performance of any build infact it should be faster than cramfs. It's the code that the system image is based off of and what extra apps and libraries and frameworks are included that determines how fast it's going to be.
Zen since you seem to be up and responding I have a quick question that I am not looking for too in depth of a response, just a brief overview...
What exactly is the user.conf responsible for? If I am running just the basic ION version is there any reason to keep the rogers or hero based files? Are they ever called upon when running the regular ION build?
Thank you!
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Zen since you seem to be up and responding I have a quick question that I am not looking for too in depth of a response, just a brief overview...
What exactly is the user.conf responsible for? If I am running just the basic ION version is there any reason to keep the rogers or hero based files? Are they ever called upon when running the regular ION build?
Thank you!
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you don't need them if your running ion. the user.conf files are just for people to tweak their own settings for each build. so you have the ability to turn compcache/swap on/off things like that. ion doesn't really need it but it does help it out it you run a lot of programs and widgets.
I've got a vogue and a diamond on sprint that I switch back and fourth between pretty often.
I thought maybe I could get a vzw htc vogue off of ebay, and get it working on my sprint plan, and put android on it.
If I did that, would GPS be crippled on it in android?
The main reason I wanted to do it was I like the white case and the vzw screens are all nice, I have a sprint vogue with a bad screen.
I'm excited that Zen said he was repackaging the nkhero release as it is essentially the latest-stable Ion build. The experimental builds are nice and essential to advancing development but alot of users are looking for everyday stable usage (and the added Hero theme is always sweet eye-candy)!
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The HTC RIL is closed source. Its not a question of porting.
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so I guess the question is, can it be cracked/hacked, or not possible?
i recommend everyone try out the opera mini beta 5 with android. Make sure you have Java installed on your build. I use the latest hero-vogue build. go to m.opera.com/next on your android browser and click download to pc. download the jar. it will run with java and is awesome. it runs smoother and has more eye candy than any browser i ever tried. and i really like the keyboard that comes with it!
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i recommend everyone try out the opera mini beta 5 with android. Make sure you have Java installed on your build. I use the latest hero-vogue build. go to m.opera.com/next on your android browser and click download to pc. download the jar. it will run with java and is awesome. it runs smoother and has more eye candy than any browser i ever tried. and i really like the keyboard that comes with it!
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Nice tip. This thing is wicked fast. I just tried 4.x yesterday but this is way better for touch screens!
zenulator said:
I don't have any of these problems with my builds so you might be missing a step or using the wrong files. Granted the xrom and cyanogen builds at vogue-hero are experimental/beta quality and hence why they stay there and don't go to the main vogue-android page. The latest xrom is using cupcake/donut built from the android master branch and is as fast as any build out there with the right setup and you can't use it with an existing data.img because it has a different code base. And sqsh has nothing to do with the level of performance of any build infact it should be faster than cramfs. It's the code that the system image is based off of and what extra apps and libraries and frameworks are included that determines how fast it's going to be.
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OK, this is the first non-mssmison build I've tried in a while. I'm trying xrom 1.5. New data, and fresh files all around. Seems to be pretty good, but still the browser chokes a bit more than the non-sqsh build. Is there a way to limit app processes anymore? I looked for dev tools but it is not included.
hey zen, is it normal for me to be getting these fsck000.REC fsk0001.REC ect..
files on my storage card? if not, do you know what they are? the number just keeps goin up after every reboot and just keeps adding files.
Also, has anyone got a driver to work with Vista?
katmandu421 said:
OK, this is the first non-mssmison build I've tried in a while. I'm trying xrom 1.5. New data, and fresh files all around. Seems to be pretty good, but still the browser chokes a bit more than the non-sqsh build. Is there a way to limit app processes anymore? I looked for dev tools but it is not included.
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Squashfs has nothing to do with the browser. If your compairing the1.5 xrom to the 1.4 then the differences are due to different browser builds aand the fact that the 1.5 build has some donut parts that 1.4 didn't have.
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hey zen, is it normal for me to be getting these fsck000.REC fsk0001.REC ect..
files on my storage card? if not, do you know what they are? the number just keeps goin up after every reboot and just keeps adding files.
Also, has anyone got a driver to work with Vista?
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You can delete them.
Probably something to do with the basefiles, but I haven't tracked the cause yet.
They're the result of the automatic filesystem check on the sdcard fat partition on boot.
pmos69 said:
You can delete them.
Probably something to do with the basefiles, but I haven't tracked the cause yet.
They're the result of the automatic filesystem check on the sdcard fat partition on boot.
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anyway patiently awaiting tattoo. it should be out today in some way or another. i just want to get a hold of the pure dump before it gets messed with.

Could Clockwork Mod 3.0.0.5 work on archos

i was wondering if we could do something like this on the archos?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897612
And you are sure you have looked into the dev forum for gen8?
If we can compile an initramfs and a zimage from clockworkmod source, I don't see why not.
[email protected] said:
If we can compile an initramfs and a zimage from clockworkmod source, I don't see why not.
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But we have the Sde already and we have a Multi Boot Menu
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i was wondering if we could do something like this on the archos?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897612
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Yes and no. $auron already has replicated some of the functions in his install script. The real question is why do we need CWM? You can backup/restore data directly on the device, or through ADB. You can install update zips by putting them in the UrukUpdate directory. Basically everything CWM does is already taken care of.
I use CWM on my HD2, so I do like it, but it's pointless on Archos, since they already give us the ability to dual-boot through their own Recovery menu.
Why all the people dont want to use SDE?
F*** the warrenty just be brave
I dont heard about anybody who soft bricked his Archos..
Okay, you're not understanding. The Archos AOS firmware and the Archos Bootloader are both encrypted. Even if you can decrypt them, you cannot change them, because they are signed, and the checksum is hardware-coded. Flashing the SDE adds a 3rd decrypted/unsigned boot image that can be flashed through the SDE menu.
Until someone cracks the boot signing and encryption, there can be NOTHING done to the Archos boot system without first flashing the SDE.
And trust me, there are MANY people working on that already, for almost a year.
P.S. How is your A70 useless because of Archos? Since the 2 latest firmware versions, it's been incredibly stable, and it does what's advertised. It even comes with Market now.
The boot loader was cracked see here But I don't think it's a very good option to use.
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The boot loader was cracked see here But I don't think it's a very good option to use.
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Yeah, I know, I was following that thread, but I don't like it either. First off, someone needs to find a way to make that change with a reliable script, because you can't ask people to dd and hex edit the recovery block, or there will be bricks-a-plenty.
Second, I have yet to see someone compile a working AOS-format firmware file that works on Gen8. I stopped paying attention, but all the aos-tools only seemed to work with Gen7. Did someone find the AOS decryption code for Gen8?
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Second, I have yet to see someone compile a working AOS-format firmware file that works on Gen8.
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This Is not very possible. You will need the private encryption key of archos.
msticninja said:
I stopped paying attention, but all the aos-tools only seemed to work with Gen7. Did someone find the AOS decryption code for Gen8?
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I think the only thing that is missing to decrypt the aos file is the public keys that are used to verify the image files. They are stored in the flash somewhere we only need to find them.
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This Is not very possible. You will need the private encryption key of archos.
I think the only thing that is missing to decrypt the aos file is the public keys that are used to verify the image files. They are stored in the flash somewhere we only need to find them.
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Then that's the next step to avoid the need for SDE, i suppose. Not like I don't already have the SDE watermark, but it would be nice to flash images through AOS instead of using the Developer menu.
Arobase40 said:
May be things are different with the 10" Tab, but with my 70IT it's far from being stable, whatever version I used : The Tab is laggy, the touchscreen is mostly jerky and "sticky" (Just scrolling the applications panel is a pain, as when I try to scroll to the bottom of the screen, I got unwanted apps launching), Most of the time I can't have wireless connexion, all bluetooth devices I have can't connect while they do instantly with the SGT, HDMI scrolling is also jerky and in blind mode, most USB storage devices don't work, ...
So I can't do Internet uses, nor Multimedia, except MP3 or Video playbacks IN LOCAL Mode after files transfer from a computer using the USB cable, and when the touchscreen allow me to select the correct files !!!
With the latest firmware I cant even not download any apps most of the time even if by any chance I got a connexion whether from Market or Applibs, for not reason... ^^ System is trying to download but got just stuck (not even a single byte), while I can browse (slowly but still)... ^^
So I have to find the apk from my laptop or with my SGT.
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That certainly doesn't sound normal. Have you done a full system reformat and done a fresh install? Not saying it will fix it, but I have had times where it helped with hard-to-determine instability. Things like the wifi connection not working, bad touchscreen response, etc shouldn't be happening.
I believe you, I just know that most people with the A70 don't have those issues. I've even set up a few A70s and found it to be better than my A101, probably due to the lower screen resolution. In your case, it could even be bad hardware. If the SDcard controller fries and becomes unstable, the system can use 100% of the CPU cycles trying to keep up with the errors it will throw. Even the CPU can throttle itself if it's damaged, limiting your frequency, thus giving bad performance.
I hope you can get it figured out, or get it replaced/refunded, because I really do think the Gen8 devices were worth their price. I've had mine for 8 months and I've never regretted it. The Tab is probably a better tablet, but they weren't even close to market when I was deciding to get a tablet.
Arobase40 said:
Yeah, I did fresh reinstall twice and jus got the same issues.
Just for the touchscreen, it was responding more or less fine depending on the firmware version. So I guessed this is a OS issue. For the rest wifi, BT, HDMI or USB Host, it was the same whatever the version !!!
That's the reason, I wanted to do a dump backup and to restore older versions version just to figure out if this is a hardware issue or OS issue... ^^
And that's also the reason, I won't buy newer Tab when they are close to the market but will wait after some weeks or months before to decide. And test deeply them by myself, and not just at reading at web sites or blog tests !!!
I'm really attempted about the Asus Transformer or Slider, but I will wait again for a while... ^^
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I would try to get it replaced if it was me. This forum would be very different if everybody had these problems. I know this is a stupid question, but is it actually an A70HT rebadged to say IT?
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Who knows ???
I was really too busy with my work, my other projects, private affairs, and testing my lovely new SGT with different firmwares...
But I'll get in touch with Archos, because this is really too much ass***
I can really certify you I'm not the sole persons having so much troubles, whether in France, in Canada, or UK, for what I have already noticed.
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No, certainly not the only person with alot of troubles, but I truly feel that those people are louder, so you tend to think there's more of them.
Archos rushed to market, like they have for the past 15 years, and I think they started having component shortages, so some of the revisions ended up having unstable mixes of hardware. They probably even know that, and that may be why they've started replacing people's unstable ones as the demand dies.

Windows 8 bugs

I want to change my OS with windows 8 but is still beta and i want to find out what bugs are. My friend had already told my about 2 of them but i want to find out if there more bugs.
I will apreciate any post
Actual bugs:
Photoshop crash
Sometimes the computer restarts when playing youtube videous
Windows 8 is nowhere near beta.
It's a developer preview.
As in a preview meant for developers.
Anyone know why my Asus touch screen does not allow touch screen with the developer preview? Works fine in 7 but when I go into partition 2 to windows 8 the touch screen won work and says my driver isn't installed...then it won't allow any drivers to be searched for...says thentouchscreen is unknown device
Ok go into windows 7 and go to program files... then go and copy the drivers from there to a flashdrive or external hard drive and the go into win 8 and paste drivers and install...my touch screen worked fine after that
Press THX! If this helped
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valiro21 said:
I want to change my OS with windows 8 but is still beta and i want to find out what bugs are. My friend had already told my about 2 of them but i want to find out if there more bugs.
I will apreciate any post
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Keep in mind that the currently available version really isn't a Beta. It was released predominatly to give developers and professional organizations an idea of where MS is going with the product.
I currently have had it installed on an Acer Iconia W500 for about 10 weeks now and use it for about an hour or so every night for casual surfing and some general messing-around-with.
On the one hand the fact that I CAN do this is a pretty good indication that MS is working to develop a solid product.
On the other hand the DP is NOT even close to bug free and is not entirely stable, and really should be regarded as experimental software in every sense of the word.
Just a short list of issues I've had:
Reluctance to connect to certain WiFi Routers and Controllers, escpecially those that are using some type of key-authentican method (more commonly found on Enteprise Networks). WiFi connection "dies" periodically and needs to be restarted, could be a driver issue, could be OS.
Metro IE can be slow, cranky, or hang altogether (but it does work well about 75% of the time). Some websites (TMZ.com comes to mind) can crash it almost every time.
Many of the Metro example apps are unstable.
Most programs WILL install via the "classic" desktop interface, but one needs to realize that everything that made previous versions of Windows so awkward and sucky on a Tablet still hold true on the DP of Windows 8 for legacy applications. The gestures and inputs needed to smoothly use legacy apps are either incomplete or non-existent in the Developer Preview.
A lot of my hoary old legacy apps (i.e. ones that were designed way back when Windows XP was new and have seen no real updates since) won't even install. I doubt very much that will be fixed. (If I were MS I would not fix those issues) Neither Picture Publisher or Digital Image Suite will work for example (again no surprise but I'll miss both)
I'm not trying to discourage you from doing this, indeed if you have a sense of adventure and like to live on the edge, go for it. But I personally would not install it on a primary PC (I have a very healthy Dell Laptop running Win x64 for doing real work) and you definately want to go in knowing that this is an incomplete and not-ready-for-prime-time product.
If you are reticent in any way, I'd wait about 4 weeks and the Consumer Preview will likely be out by then. Every expectation is that version will be several orders of magnitude better on the the completeness/stability scale.
They will change to Consumer Preview . Can't wait to fix this bug's
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I found a bug: when i delete system32 it doesnt start =O
and when i end csrss.exe it chrashes =(
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domini99 said:
I found a bug: when i delete system32 it doesnt start =O
and when i end csrss.exe it chrashes =(
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Isn't that what happens normally in windows? BTW I accidentally pressed thanks :/
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Isn't that what happens normally in windows? BTW I accidentally pressed thanks :/
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obvious troll is obvious
Anyhow, when the beta comes out it would be better to discuss bugs instead of discussing bugs in a developer preview
well for one, any overclocking apps for overclocking your gpu doesnt work. at least on my end. nvidiainspector, afterburner, or ntune. none work. driver support is also horrible
HELLO!!
well for one, any overclocking apps for overclocking your gpu doesnt work. at least on my end. nvidiainspector, afterburner, or ntune. none work. driver support is also horrible
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Isn't that what happens normally in windows? BTW I accidentally pressed thanks :/
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i know... I know. thats wy windows is funny =)

[ROM] SHPONGLE v3.5 - "You think you can handle it?" [07.07.2012]

what about the German language
very very nice ROM
humm.. I think you'll have no choice of using Elelinux rom to have multi-language support like I had to do for French due to it's rom based Decked_X who is just available in English..
I have been using this ROM for a little while now and find it to be both fast and stable. A really great job by the developer 1ceb0x, for which I would like to express my thanks.
One small issue I have yet to sort out and that is one of awful keyboard lag. I use Handcent SMS for messaging and am wondering if anyone else is using this app and suffering the same problem? I haven't worked out if it is just this app, or a combination of this app and the installed keyboard yet, but if anyone else has had a similar experience that they have managed to resolve, or can suggest tweaks to try I would be grateful to hear. I really would like to stick with Handcent, if possible.
For anyone who has not tried this ROM, I would recommend they do; it really is a great everyday ROM.
quattro_driver said:
I have been using this ROM for a little while now and find it to be both fast and stable. A really great job by the developer 1ceb0x, for which I would like to express my thanks.
One small issue I have yet to sort out and that is one of awful keyboard lag. I use Handcent SMS for messaging and am wondering if anyone else is using this app and suffering the same problem? I haven't worked out if it is just this app, or a combination of this app and the installed keyboard yet, but if anyone else has had a similar experience that they have managed to resolve, or can suggest tweaks to try I would be grateful to hear. I really would like to stick with Handcent, if possible.
For anyone who has not tried this ROM, I would recommend they do; it really is a great everyday ROM.
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As far as I know, the keyboard lag should be gone in the latest version which is 3.5. However, it was only tested using stock keyboard and stock mms app. If you are having low ram, this could be your problem (or an app is keeping your cpu at 100%) - though the first issue should not occur because the kernel is tweaked to kill apps when mem. is lower than 60 - so basically you will always have 40-50 mb free every time.
Thank you guys for your support and for using my rom, it is really a great pleasure to see how many users have it as a daily driver. Thanks again!
1ceb0x said:
Thank you guys for your support and for using my rom, it is really a great pleasure to see how many users have it as a daily driver. Thanks again!
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it is a very very great Rom:laugh:
1ceb0x
The ROM is still used in German?
Tuvok36 said:
it is a very very great Rom:laugh:
1ceb0x
The ROM is still used in German?
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It has only keyboard dictionaries including german but no system language, sorry!
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I was just about to install this ROM, but I don't need German
I am writing mainly in response to a post by buba_shrimp in the development forum (I do not have sufficient privileges to post there), but also for my own benefit, as I am seeking assistance for the same issue.
In the early days of having my Hero (stock rom) I found GPS to work flawlessly, up until passing the installation of any google maps release past 5.5.0, when bad things started to happen. I have stayed at this release ever since.
Just prior becoming Shpongled, GPS became a nightmare; tried all sorts of stuff, but nothing seemed to help. I came to the conclusion that the hardware was failing and left it as that. That was until the day that I maintained the gps config file from US to UK/European server settings and lo and behold not only did the phone lock my position lightning fast, but all the other problems vanished too.
On moving to this rom, the first thing I did was implementing my replacement gps.conf and continued to get excellent gps performance – most of the time.
The phone now seems to operate in one of two modes; it either gets a good lock in seconds and performs flawlessly, or the gps connection circle spins for and age followed usually by the phone rebooting itself (I think just as it seems to locate its position, though I’m not quite sure just).
I have posted earlier that I am getting bad keyboard lag too, but now realise that this is a hit and miss affair also, as I only get this some of the time.
Anyone have any idea as to how I can debug the phone when it is experiencing these issues, e.g. any free logging tools or other such monitoring software that may help? Or, suggestions as to things I might try? Was glad to see buba_shrimp was suffering a similar problem – not in a gloating way, in a problem-shared-is-a-problem-halved kinda way.
Regards
quattro_driver said:
I am writing mainly in response to a post by buba_shrimp in the development forum (I do not have sufficient privileges to post there), but also for my own benefit, as I am seeking assistance for the same issue.
In the early days of having my Hero (stock rom) I found GPS to work flawlessly, up until passing the installation of any google maps release past 5.5.0, when bad things started to happen. I have stayed at this release ever since.
Just prior becoming Shpongled, GPS became a nightmare; tried all sorts of stuff, but nothing seemed to help. I came to the conclusion that the hardware was failing and left it as that. That was until the day that I maintained the gps config file from US to UK/European server settings and lo and behold not only did the phone lock my position lightning fast, but all the other problems vanished too.
On moving to this rom, the first thing I did was implementing my replacement gps.conf and continued to get excellent gps performance – most of the time.
The phone now seems to operate in one of two modes; it either gets a good lock in seconds and performs flawlessly, or the gps connection circle spins for and age followed usually by the phone rebooting itself (I think just as it seems to locate its position, though I’m not quite sure just).
I have posted earlier that I am getting bad keyboard lag too, but now realise that this is a hit and miss affair also, as I only get this some of the time.
Anyone have any idea as to how I can debug the phone when it is experiencing these issues, e.g. any free logging tools or other such monitoring software that may help? Or, suggestions as to things I might try? Was glad to see buba_shrimp was suffering a similar problem – not in a gloating way, in a problem-shared-is-a-problem-halved kinda way.
Regards
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Get ADB, plug your phone into USB, enable USB Debugging on your phone, type adb logcat into your PC's command line and you have debug
kemoba said:
Get ADB, plug your phone into USB, enable USB Debugging on your phone, type adb logcat into your PC's command line and you have debug
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I know how to do this, I just don't have the experience to know what I should be looking for.
Ideally I was really hoping for, I guess, is that someone else has suffered these same issues and has a solution.
My question about usefull tools was along the lines of some sort of app that records resource usage over time, to allow for analysis of conflicts, or similar. Anything like this exist? Or is there a better way? The adb logcat is a little too low-level for me I think, unless someone can help me with pointers as to what I should be looking for.
Thanks folks.
Very nice rom, very fast, but .. (sorry for lang)
every app or game in my Hero lags in fews minutes with error " [Application] is not responsive " .. only thing what i can do is tap " Force close " button .. so each game is not playable (gameboid mainly), or i cant read comics, or whatever else ^^ any solutions?
thanks for help guys
Nice and fast ROM
Thanks
it is a great expense to import the German language in the ROM?
I would like to have it in German.
I'm not a developer, I'm just a user
Tuvok36 said:
it is a great expense to import the German language in the ROM?
I would like to have it in German.
I'm not a developer, I'm just a user
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It would need to be build from source to get german language in it. So yes, it is a great expense since it needs:
a powerful computer
time
space
i'm so sorry for not being able to provide you guys this rom in other languages. i know i have lost some of you because of this issue but i cannot do anything for it. i can build it from source in a way or the other but it will loose the great speed of decked_x base rom.
thank you for using it thought.
Very nice from, I have the stop responding error too but works clicking wait lets me continue without losing anything.
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Do Shpongle ROM need swap partition on SD card??
Just a little question: what kind of partition do Shpongle ver 3.7 need on SD card??
I mean: is it necessary to have a little swap partition (60-120MB) ?
PS: version 3.7 is really strong, but I'm waiting for a next and better release
Dont use swap partitions...
kemoba said:
Dont use swap partitions...
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In the last release of Elelinux it is required a swap partition greater than 60 MB and an additional Ext4 partition (maybe for app2SD..??).
I know that Shpongle ROM is not Elelinux (there are differences, I suppose), but.. is there any reason for not to installing swap partition or it's just your personal experience??
Thanks..
It's just slower on every rom, based on user and dev opinions...
How can cyanogenmod and cronos have multilanguage support but not Shpongle?
Have they written the rom in every single language?

New Ultra headed my way!

Should have it by the 17th. Really looking forward to it.
There looks to be a lot more info here on Remix in general ...looks good! ?
One thing is I am hoping for is a way to safely increase the ram. Seems I read that the Ultra is already rooted, so hopefully there is an easy way to do this!
OH... The Ultra is on sale at Amazon for $199 ...says it includes keyboard! Sweet!
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It's not rooted. But its easy to flash a custom recovery and install the su binary.
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Should have it by the 17th. Really looking forward to it.
There looks to be a lot more info here on Remix in general ...looks good!
One thing is I am hoping for is a way to safely increase the ram. Seems I read that the Ultra is already rooted, so hopefully there is an easy way to do thd
OH... The Ultra is on sale at Amazon for $199 ...says it includes keyboard! Sweet!
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If you can find the Cyanogen Mod recovery then you can download the supersu from the market. Boot into recovery and then apply the supersu as an update. Once done you cannot get OTA updates, but supersu lets you unroot and then you can repeate the process of replacing the recovery and rooting. Very easy to do and much easier than using other root tools out there.
Got it early. Ordered Friday... delivered Monday.
Already updated to 2.0, which changed the settings app. Then the mouse stopped working on the keyboard, so I may be looking to reset the tab and start over... not that big of a deal.
Unless someone chimes in here with an idea to get the trackpad working again.
Neat tab. Made a video I may post later.
Thanks for any helpful input.
Reset the tablet, all is well for the trackpad.
So this is supposed to be a multi-tasker, but for the life of me I cannot find the feature that was on version 1.5 ....the ability to have phone sized windows.
Where did that feature go? Anyone know?
Thanks.
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Reset the tablet, all is well for the trackpad.
So this is supposed to be a multi-tasker, but for the life of me I cannot find the feature that was on version 1.5 ....the ability to have phone sized windows.
Where did that feature go? Anyone know?
Thanks.
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Try under settings / applications and see if open in full screen mode is checked.
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Try under settings / applications and see if open in full screen mode is checked.
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Thank you. I found it and it is un-checked.
I have since found a few apps, like calculator and another I installed ...Ccleaner, do open in smaller or larger windows, and can be moved about on the screen.
Still none of my larger apps, that I use for business ...like Polaris, seem to have any options to change.
I am thinking I am going to have to carefully check my apps and look for those which may work and fit with the Remix multi windows setup. So far there are not many.
Not quite what I expected, but I will keep working with it.
Thanks again!
I mentioned this in another post here. It applies to version 2.0.
The way to determine if the app being used can be brought down to a phone sized/smaller window is to swipe down with your finger from the top. To the right will be the option to expand or contract the app. Works on some apps, not on others, but at least now I know where the option is.
Hope this helps.
App Freezing
Anyone having problems with apps freezing, mouse still working, but cant scroll or select on apps.
Giving me trouble in facebook messenger and google drive
oh yeah. i have to hard-reboot mine at least once a day. video is usually the culprit, specifically youtube.
support didn't have any advice so i've just gotten used to it.
Its an ongoing problem. Video is the first notification of it you'll notice, but I've seen it in games too, specifically Alto's Adventure and The Room 3.
According to the errors I've captured with logcat its an issue caused by the nvidia drivers.
yes, i have noticed that in logcat too. is it that NVIDIA is not meant to work with android? surely there are other android devices on their chips... it is so frustrating.

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