OK 1 billion threads I know but its more so a thread of my joy.
See the big boys Samsung/Apple/HTC should be working along the lines of when they bring out their top end phone, its the best one....maybe for a few short months, but that’s the way tech works, wait for one company to bring something out then you better it.
My joy has came from the fact that I was waiting for Apple to trump Samsung, its a newer phone/hype so it will be better, Apples chance to go one up on Samsung, they have the court win (fix ) and a new phone right behind that, times are good, what could go wrong..........oh dear, its not quite the phone we all thought it might be.
Not a Apple fan (was many years ago) but had they brought out a really top end/new ideas phone then it would have been bad news for Samsung (state side) as it is Samsung now have the perfect chance to really push this, they have in a way got off lightly.
It will be very easy for Samsung to make a phone that easily outstrips the ip5, I just hope they take a little bit extra from that tech they are sitting on and really leave other companies behind, but that comes with a high cost.
P.S
Just love how Apple is lost for ideas.
I know the war on trying to bring other firms down to their speed is well under way but its shocking when they are so open about lack of innovation on their side.
There was a write up about the iphone 5 looking like a longer 4s, and the question was put to Apple on why the look of the phone has hardy changed since iphone4, the reply was that they felt it was a great design and that people liked it, and that they don’t see the main shape changing for sometime yet.
Why not simply say
“we don’t have any idea what we could do and we are not willy to take any chances, customers are happy with it so why bother trying any new ideas, but if the sales are not what we wanted then we will make a slight change to the shape........this is Apple after all, we are all about slight changes here”
So comment/delete yet another thread either way I am happy Apple dropped the ball with this one.
Apple has just smashed preorder records over all their other phones. Samsung won't outsell the iPhone, and in terms of specs their phones have always been better anyway.
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Apple has just smashed preorder records over all their other phones. Samsung won't outsell the iPhone, and in terms of specs their phones have always been better anyway.
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The iPhone 5 has better specs? ......
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How do you know this, I don't doubt you but would like to see the figures.
Cm10 latest with s3 = godly.
Best is nit a figure. Best for what?
Whats best some one is not for another. Specs dont mean best
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I think it's 4 million preorders for the iPhone 5.
Also iSheep don't buy a phone because it's the best (like us) they buy a phone because it's an iPhone no other reason. Apple could make a new Nokia 3310 and people would still buy it thinking it's the best because they blindly follow Apple.
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Already done. The SGS3 is superior to the iphone5.
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Its going down the path of mine is better than yours.....but I notice you start with preorders, so sales means its better? if so explain the Twilight movies, how did they make the money?????
Had you started off by listing the changes Apple made then I would be more willing to listen to a I.fan.
Oh and just so it does not need pointed out again
S1 1ghz 5mp camera 720p recording 4inch screen.512 ram
S2 1.2ghz dual core 8mp camera 1080p recording 4.3 inch screen.1gig ram.
S3 1.4ghz quad core 8pm camera 1080p recording 4.8 inch screen.1 gig ram.
Iphone 620mhz no camera 3.5 inch screen..128 ram.
Iphone 3g 620mhz.2mp camera vga recording.3.5 inch screen.128 ram.
Iphone 3gs 833mhz.3mp camera vga recording 3.5 inch screen.256 ram
Iphone 4 1ghz.5mp camera..720p recording 3.5 inch screen.512 ram.
Iphone 4s 1ghz.dual core.8mp camera 1080p recording 3.5 inch screen.512 ram.
Iphone 5 1.2ghz dual core.8mp camera 1080p recording 4 inch screen. 1gb ram.
It took them 6 phones to make these changes, they went form a 620mhz cpu to 1.2ghz dual core.
From no camera to 8mp 1080p recording.
From 128ram to 1gb ram.
And from a 3.5 inch screen to a..................well 4inch screen.
I know its all been said but to me this is not a big leap over 6 years, Samsung has done more over 3 years.
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Agree!! Enjoying every bit of it now. I wish i could donate to CM Team but i don't have PayPal account.
Anyway, back to topic. I heard Samsung made sure S3 is iPhone 5 proof. Meaning they already knew how it would look like and made s3 superior.
W/o Steve Jobs, i don't think there's still life in Apple.
Steve jobs said before he died that he wanted to destroy android, Well i think by him dying he destroyed Apple.
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Its going down the path of mine is better than yours.....but I notice you start with preorders, so sales means its better? if so explain the Twilight movies, how did they make the money?????
Had you started off by listing the changes Apple made then I would be more willing to listen to a I.fan.
Oh and just so it does not need pointed out again
S1 1ghz 5mp camera 720p recording 4inch screen.512 ram
S2 1.2ghz dual core 8mp camera 1080p recording 4.3 inch screen.1gig ram.
S3 1.4ghz quad core 8pm camera 1080p recording 4.8 inch screen.1 gig ram.
Iphone 620mhz no camera 3.5 inch screen..128 ram.
Iphone 3g 620mhz.2mp camera vga recording.3.5 inch screen.128 ram.
Iphone 3gs 833mhz.3mp camera vga recording 3.5 inch screen.256 ram
Iphone 4 1ghz.5mp camera..720p recording 3.5 inch screen.512 ram.
Iphone 4s 1ghz.dual core.8mp camera 1080p recording 3.5 inch screen.512 ram.
Iphone 5 1.2ghz dual core.8mp camera 1080p recording 4 inch screen. 1gb ram.
It took them 6 phones to make these changes, they went form a 620mhz cpu to 1.2ghz dual core.
From no camera to 8mp 1080p recording.
From 128ram to 1gb ram.
And from a 3.5 inch screen to a..................well 4inch screen.
I know its all been said but to me this is not a big leap over 6 years, Samsung has done more over 3 years.
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The i5 has 1GHZ dual core...
Anyway,i do agree to that.
Most of apples buyers are dumb...
A youtube video where they showed the people the 4s instead of the 5 and most of them said it's definently better even though it was THE SAME FRICKING PHONE??
Jesus...i wonder who the hell did we get there sometimes...
Well I know I have a good phone when I can do everything I need w/o much tinkerin...I dont like CM and I hardly use modded stuff so I am not spoiled by the custom rom godness and still any stock android phone 2.3 and up have better usability than any iThing up to date. Cant debate usability.
Android top phones come in better specs, and spec is something that can be measured because its a fact that hardware X is faster than Y, cant debate on that when the difference is so great between top android phones and iphone.
The screen size, for me 4.5 is better than 4.8, that we can debate as it is personal preference. Everything else is no brainer for me, real multitask, widgets, the fact that I can chose my default apps, change my ringtone at will, stuff all my mp3 in a sdcard and be happy all day, and the look in my iphone friends faces when I click on a street addres inside gmail and android ask me if I want directions or maps...
Anyone who try to argue that iphone is a better smart phone is wrong, iphone is a better...ipod that make calls...for the hardware it sports and the target market I would say the iphone is still overkill.
Android phones will always have better specs, that's not going to change. Apple sells features not specs and that I mean by that is that Apple will advertise a certain feature, siri, and people will see that and flock, or something like icloud, and people will buy. 5 years ago if you would of told me that the wii would be one of the best selling systems of all time, I would of laughed, the wii is just gamecube 2,with a new controller, but Nintendo focused on features and not specs and look what happened
I think Samsung is getting the idea, advertise what the phone can do, and why you need it, then people will buy. It's easy to say that the iphone is gonna outsell the sg3 because if you want an iphone you get an iphone, there no choice, if you want a android, you literally have 500 choices.
Plus Samsung makes alot of the parts for the iphone so they winning regardless
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That could just mean they doing a Buzz Lightyear and deliberately creating stock shortages so all the iSheep think it's more popular than it actually is.
The ip5 will sell well, but if its looking to good then Samsung will start teasing the SGS4 and its "maybe specs" I mean there is already talk of its first showing next year been March.
This is Samsungs chance to distance their product, better specs/features/look, after Apples so so ip5 Samsung really need to make the most of it and show off, it does come at a cost but long term it will be a winner.
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Well I do think that Samsung and rest of the Android pack has a lot of catching up with apple's processor. Especially in terms of battery consumption. They could fit quite small sized battery and still have excellent battery life. I don't like Apple as an company and because of that will always boycott them but must give credit for the processor.
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Well I do think that Samsung and rest of the Android pack has a lot of catching up with apple's processor. Especially in terms of battery consumption. They could fit quite small sized battery and still have excellent battery life. I don't like Apple as an company and because of that will always boycott them but must give credit for the processor.
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Features are what matters to the average person not pointless benchmark results and a little bit of a speedup, and iPhone chronically lacks features compared to Android.
Apple does not have to try hard for making an 'innovative' phone. Just putting a new name tag would turn on the iSheeps and sell like hot cakes. So be it.
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Just thought I'd report that we still own the best smartphone in the world since Jan 5, 2010. Nothing has happened through today to convince me otherwise.
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Just thought I'd report that we still own the best smartphone in the world since Jan 5, 2010. Nothing has happened through today to convince me otherwise.
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Well, I agree on the OS front android is still the better and iOS 4 is trying to do a catch up. But, I have to hand it to the iPhone 4 hardware , it does look amazing.
I like the 720p recording and retina display... But the OS still sucks. If only we could get developers to make GOOD apps, not some half-baked ones.
The hardware specs being released in the new iPhone is way way better than the n1. I'm actually jealous because of the front facing camera. And the new display resolution is unreal.
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The hardware specs being released in the new iPhone is way way better than the n1. I'm actually jealous because of the front facing camera. And the new display resolution is unreal.
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The only thing that may have the EVO 4g beat is the processor, but I'd bet my left arm that snapdragon + JIT > an A4
720p at 30 FPS, Retina display, Gyro motion, 7 hours talk time. 6 hours of 3G browsing, 10 hours of WiFi browsing, 10 hours of video. 40 hours of music. 300 hours of standby, A4 processor, 32 GB internal storage, 9.3mm thick, etc, etc.
No one can dispute that the new iPhone is the best phone from a hardware standpoint. This phone is also going to take mobile gaming to a whole new level. I'd still much rather prefer Android OS, but as a fan of technology in general I have to say that Apple stepped their game up with this phone. Android app development will have to continue to grow at a rapid pace to keep up.
It is the highest res I've heard of for a phone. But it isn't that much more than the N1. Just the next step I guess. The N1 has about 250 or 260 DPI, right?
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It is the highest res I've heard of for a phone. But it isn't that much more than the N1. Just the next step I guess. The N1 has about 250 or 260 DPI, right?
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I thought it was just under 270. Jobs himself said it doesn't matter past 300 anyways.
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The resolution of the screen is something I am jeleous of, but the size is still smaller than the n1.
I'd like to see some benchmarks because we all know the 2.2 Nexus One was running laps around an iPad!
I'll admit there were some things that had me think "darn I wish my phone could do that" and then I remembered how awesome push to phone is.
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720p at 30 FPS, Retina display, Gyro motion, 7 hours talk time. 6 hours of 3G browsing, 10 hours of WiFi browsing, 10 hours of video. 40 hours of music. 300 hours of standby, A4 processor, 32 GB internal storage, 9.3mm thick, etc, etc.
No one can dispute that the new iPhone is the best phone from a hardware standpoint. This phone is also going to take mobile gaming to a whole new level. I'd still much rather prefer Android OS, but as a fan of technology in general I have to say that Apple stepped their game up with this phone. Android app development will have to continue to grow at a rapid pace to keep up.
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Can't wait till someone make FroYo run on iPhone 4.
Steve says the screen of iphon4 is 4x bette than 3gs. uuhm did you ever compared 3gs screen with n1? the N1 is also 4x better than 3gs. so i'm not really jalous at that.
The OS doesn't ad somethin that i can say WOW! what comes to ios4 we have it on android. even they failed with connection on 4g everyone had to turn off wifi, the 3gs loaded fine :S whahahha
though the battery life looks great
the new (unreleased) iPhone does have a higher res screen, better video camera (could be just software/drivers) and the new gyroscope sensor. However iOS4 is still way behind Android
Our 6 month old Nexus has a bigger size screen
lol @ "retina display", apple sure is good at creating new buzz words which the flock absorbs and repeats. (baaaa)
I wish Sony had stepped up to Googles offer of collaborating on a phone.
Too bad there aren't any Android phones coming out with a res to match or exceed the iDont4 (960x640)
Yup the resolution on the screen looks sick, but it' just too smal. After having 2 phones with 3.7" displays I can't go down to 3.5". My next phone will probably have a 4" or bigger screen anways.
The hardware on the new iphone is very slick though.
yes the screen is better (higher res), and yes there is a front facing camera.
its been 5 month and our phone is just as competitive, hardware wise, as it was when it was released.
on the OS side, there is no comparison. apple was not ready for froyo. they have lots of catching up to do. i still think the iOS 4 (lol) is stuck in 2007.
not really that impressed.
The "iphone 4" does have by far the best video camera I have ever seen on a phone. I am actually very surprised by how good the still pictures of it look.
The overall question is though, did the iphone 4 with iOS 4 beat what google did weeks ago with the 2.2 Froyo Nexus 1? I don't think so, but even though that was shown off 3 weeks ago (seriously google WTF!?) I got a feeling you will be able to buy an iphone 4 before you can get the "official" Froyo OTA update.
OK.....I want the face to face calling...that's about it.
No one will use that crap face time because everyone is obsessed about battery time. Rofl.
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seriously i'm kind of sad that this is all the iphone has done. they barely advanced the arms race.
video calling with iphones only? only on wifi?
video calling has existed in some places in europe since 2006, and there is a reason why its not widespread, people dont care about video calls.
One thing for sure...Apple is still good at creating 'Eye Candy'.
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video calling with iphones only? only on wifi?
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ATT network. LoL!
Lets be serious, now there are a lot of people who are going crazy over the iPhone 4..dude Apple releases iphones every year(and this year only being slightly more spec'd then my 6 month old nexus)....ANDROID HAS A WHOLE YEAR TO ADD EVEN MORE FEATURES..i say i feel sorry for apple..just my 2cents
..not to mention even gingerbread is going to be even bigger to me than when the smoke clear, and when even more android phones come out people will see the light...
I agree with you 100% but you got'a luv that video calling, c'mon who doesnt!? thats seriously the only ONE thing that would make me consider selling my Adrond and my hd2 for an iphone, but then I remeber its only on ATT, they haave the luxury of making their plans sooo expensive due to the demand on the iPhone, I dont like that!
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I agree with you 100% but you got'a luv that video calling, c'mon who doesnt!?
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I dont
It's only iPhone 4 to iPhone 4 and they both have to be on wifi?!
Sounds like crap to me
BTW if you really want video calling without restrictions... get the EVO 4g on sprint and you can call over 3g/4g.
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I agree with you 100% but you got'a luv that video calling, c'mon who doesnt!? thats seriously the only ONE thing that would make me consider selling my Adrond and my hd2 for an iphone, but then I remeber its only on ATT, they haave the luxury of making their plans sooo expensive due to the demand on the iPhone, I dont like that!
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Dude like the other person said its only over wifi for all that if you using your iphone over wifi at home might as well use a computer that's why they call it a "mobile" phone should be able to use that feature anywhere. And when skype release for android it will be amazing.
idk about u but im really getting this iphone 4 for sure....as my ipod/backup phone to my Sexy Nexy
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idk about u but im really getting this iphone 4 for sure....as my ipod/backup phone to my Sexy Nexy
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Heh, funny thing is, I could do the same if I wanted to get locked into a contract honestly. At least, if I wanted a subsidized price.
But honestly, what's the point? I'd rather have everything all on one device.
dont get me wrong, its a cool feature to have video calling, but i honestly dont talk on the phone that much....plus its another way for crazy girlfriends to be nosy ...lmao not that i have that problem
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Lets be serious, now there are a lot of people who are going crazy over the iPhone 4..dude Apple releases iphones every year(and this year only being slightly more spec'd then my 6 month old nexus)....ANDROID HAS A WHOLE YEAR TO ADD EVEN MORE FEATURES..i say i feel sorry for apple..just my 2cents
..not to mention even gingerbread is going to be even bigger to me than when the smoke clear, and when even more android phones come out people will see the light...
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As much as I hate apple, we can't ignore the hardware specs on iPhone 4. I do not see anyone trumping them anytime soon. Android is a good OS, but apple has very capable and quality hardware to go along with their OS and that's where they dominate.
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plus its another way for crazy girlfriends to be nosy ...lmao not that i have that problem
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I can make a gay joke (which may or may not even offend you depending on the team you're on), or a sad, lonely geek joke with this. Tell you what, think of one yourself and pretend I said it.
J/K of course.
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As much as I hate apple, we can't ignore the hardware specs on iPhone 4. I do not see anyone trumping them anytime soon. Android is a good OS, but apple has very capable and quality hardware to go along with their OS and that's where they dominate.
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I hate to say this.. but, by the time apple releases iphone..
Odds are it will only be a few MORE months until either dual core snap dragon OR 1.5 ghz processor.. Some rumors going around about both.
Htc has made phones that have video calln for years..... but honestly whos really gonna walk and talk while stair'n at ur phone lol
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I hate to say this.. but, by the time apple releases iphone..
Odds are it will only be a few MORE months until either dual core snap dragon OR 1.5 ghz processor.. Some rumors going around about both.
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First dual-core Snapdragon will be the MSM8260 (the HSPA part will likely lead the CDMA MSM8660). Aside from the modems, they're identical and clock in at 1.2GHz.
Just a bit of a guide:
MSM8x50: 1GHz single core (N1, Desire, Evo, Incredible, etc CPU). Only CPU in teh public now.
MSM8x50A: 1.3GHz single core. Die shrink (same CPU design, but literally shrunk via new technology reducing power consumption and heat output). Due late 2010
MSM8x60: 1.2GHz dual core. LTE support. 1080p decode. support for up to WXGA 1280 x 800 screen resolution. Due late 2010/Early 2011
MSM8x72: 1.5GHz dual core. Support for up to WSXGA screen resolution. (1440 x 9001080p encode/decode, full support for all Mobile TV solutions. MASSIVE overhaul of graphics unit, with it reportedly able to render 80M triangles/sec and 500M+ 3D pixels/sec. Reports have suggested a late 2010 launch, but given that the unit has yet to be mass produced for OEM testing, I don't expect it before 2011.
I wouldn't give up hope that either of the dual-core parts will show up in smartphones. They seem targeted at tablets and smartbooks. It will probably be end of 2011 before we see enough improvements in power consumption to see that kind of performance in a mobile handset.
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As much as I hate apple, we can't ignore the hardware specs on iPhone 4. I do not see anyone trumping them anytime soon. Android is a good OS, but apple has very capable and quality hardware to go along with their OS and that's where they dominate.
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Hmm.. I smell someone who doesn't know what HW means. What HW specs?
Maybe A4 with unknown frequency that was already trashed in its fastest 1GHz form by either overclocked Droid or Nexus + JIT (and will be blown to bits by any future CPU, at least from Qualcomm's line, seeing that currently in its 1GHz form in iPad it's already below the 1.3GHz Snapdragon), and current Samsung CPUs (in Samsung phones) having x3 more powerful graphics (and later Qualcomm CPUs improving the GPU as well)?
Or maybe 5MP camera with LED flash and 720p video recording and front-facing VGA one, that are available in Evo for some time now, and the already-released dual Snapdragon below supporting 1080p encode/decode?
Ah, you mean the display resolution.. in 1/2 year that'll be pushed even further.
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I hate to say this.. but, by the time apple releases iphone..
Odds are it will only be a few MORE months until either dual core snap dragon OR 1.5 ghz processor.. Some rumors going around about both.
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What rumors? It's officially launched, both of them. Here's the dual core:
http://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2010/06/01/qualcomm-ships-first-dual-cpu-snapdragon-chipset
There are devices scheduled to appear with it until the end of the year (hoping that they'll actually make it on time). Can't say if there are any phones, though.
again, I had video calling since 2007 over 3g on my N80 and it was free on my 3 network. LoL and now Steve says "BOOM video calling" and all people going crazy about it. Go to Asia or Europe it´s just normal and something you rarely use.
I use that for my personal freedom:
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I dont
It's only iPhone 4 to iPhone 4 and they both have to be on wifi?!
Sounds like crap to me
BTW if you really want video calling without restrictions... get the EVO 4g on sprint and you can call over 3g/4g.
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Agree that Apples idea of video conferencing is far too limited. If they really wanted to do something right, they could have worked on a standard everyone could have shared, and enabled it regardless of how your are connected.
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Hmm.. I smell someone who doesn't know what HW means. What HW specs?
Maybe A4 with unknown frequency that was already trashed in its fastest 1GHz form by either overclocked Droid or Nexus + JIT (and will be blown to bits by any future CPU, at least from Qualcomm's line, seeing that currently in its 1GHz form in iPad it's already below the 1.3GHz Snapdragon), and current Samsung CPUs (in Samsung phones) having x3 more powerful graphics (and later Qualcomm CPUs improving the GPU as well)?
Or maybe 5MP camera with LED flash and 720p video recording and front-facing VGA one, that are available in Evo for some time now, and the already-released dual Snapdragon below supporting 1080p encode/decode?
Ah, you mean the display resolution.. in 1/2 year that'll be pushed even further.
What rumors? It's officially launched, both of them. Here's the dual core:
http://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2010/06/01/qualcomm-ships-first-dual-cpu-snapdragon-chipset
There are devices scheduled to appear with it until the end of the year (hoping that they'll actually make it on time). Can't say if there are any phones, though.
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I think your smell-o-scope is broken. I know a certain professor who can help you
Processor clock speed is just one of the performance parameter of a CPU and on its own means nothing. I will, actually, go further and say, CPU specs alone means nothing to me. It's the total package that counts. I will buy a 2.2GHz thinkpad over 2.6Ghz inspiron laptop and even pay few hundred dollars more. Because I am paying for the whole thing, the chassis, better hard drive, etc... Inspiron cheaps out and thinkpad does not.
Let's go back to phones,
Show me one SINGLE phone that has these specs ( or even any phone that will be launched within a year)
1) Processor capable of doing intense graphics (OpenGL 2.0, HD video)
2) Display with 326 pixel density (Note: resolution alone means nothing. It's pixel density that costs more money)
3) IPS panel. To give you an idea, 24" TN panel costs about $200, IPS $400
4) Tri-axial accelerometer.
5) Triaxial gyroscope
6) 720p video capable camera
7) front facing camera
8) Gorilla class glass
9) Noise canceling mic
10) Pentaband 3G. I travel and i know the importance of it.
11) Wireless n card
these all together are hardware. not just CPU
Let me reiterate my hate of steve jobs and company. However, apple has not cheaped out on this phone and let's appreciate that. I have always said, HTC cheaps out very regularly. I do not think I need to present any proofs of that, search on XDA.
Having said all this, I like my freedom and I will stay with Android. But i will not wear a fanboy hat to defend HTC or google nor will I post rants against them. But please, lets appreciate what other companies are doing good. that too in a socialized manner.
Im gonna move to the iphone 4 inspite losing flash support but getting a high res display nearly like the first webbooks AND hd video recording WITH A SOUND and not this ****y noise/crap audio the nexus one is recording on videos...
whatever guys, i get both!
hahaha
I have to admit the iphone4 is pretty impressive...but its not enough for me to buy one.
I still love my nexus and flash.
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Show me one SINGLE phone that has these specs ( or even any phone that will be launched within a year)
1) Processor capable of doing intense graphics (OpenGL 2.0, HD video)
2) Display with 326 pixel density (Note: resolution alone means nothing. It's pixel density that costs more money)
3) IPS panel. To give you an idea, 24" TN panel costs about $200, IPS $400
4) Tri-axial accelerometer.
5) Triaxial gyroscope
6) 720p video capable camera
7) front facing camera
8) Gorilla class glass
9) Noise canceling mic
10) Pentaband 3G. I travel and i know the importance of it.
11) Wireless n card
these all together are hardware. not just CPU.
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Hmm, I see your point. But I think it's not that simple.
I can show you phones that have subset of the features: 1, 6, 7, 9, 11.
Be surprised, Nexus supports OpenGL 2.0 and HD video (if you mean 720p). So does Evo.
Evo supports 720p and has front facing camera.
I'm sure you know Nexus also has noise canceling mic and wireless N. Evo lacks the mic.
Display DPI, another axle in accelerometer, gyroscope and glass (?) aside - they're advanced. Might be important, might be as needless as noise cancelling mic (the only thing it's good for, it seems, is not allowing people to speak to the phone from a distance). Pentaband is a function of antennas, which might be supported on current HW (need to ask RF people, don't have enough knowledge to tell).
On the other hand, how do you compare lacking features? For example, being so excited about DPI, how do you compare smaller or larger screen sizes - what counts as an advantage? OLED vs IPS paned LCD - for what reason do manufacturers need to go back, Samsung already proved that OLED can be made to work great in direct sunlight? How do you compare lack of HDMI out, weak camera, lack of WiMAX/LTE support, lack of removable battery (for as simple a reason as being capable to execute forced shutdown, for example)?
I'm far from being a fanboy for any technology. It's just technology.
P.S. And even if I dig into specs of future phones that aren't rumored on the net yet, I wouldn't disclose them on the forum, don't you think?
"HTC might actually be the star of the Android show this time around though, as we have been told HTC will have a major flagship device hitting Verizon shelves in the fall. It’s said to feature a whopping 5-inch 1080p HD display (a non-PenTile screen), a new chipset that includes a quad-core Krait CPU and an Adreno 320 GPU, HTC Sense 5 and a Scribe pen. Yes, HTC is launching a Galaxy Note competitor."
http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/26/verizons-summer-fall-2012-smartphone-roadmap/
If the Scribe pen is going to be built into the Phone like it is the the S-Pen...this may be worth looking at. I would preffer a 5 inch to a 5.3 inch...that tiny bit may make the difference on making it easier to touch the Symbol switch button on the keyboard...plus a 1080p display on a 5" display!? and I though a 720p display was sweet!
I don't plan on letting my Note for a while yet, but this would be a nice piece of tech to look forward too.
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"HTC might actually be the star of the Android show this time around though, as we have been told HTC will have a major flagship device hitting Verizon shelves in the fall. It’s said to feature a whopping 5-inch 1080p HD display (a non-PenTile screen), a new chipset that includes a quad-core Krait CPU and an Adreno 320 GPU, HTC Sense 5 and a Scribe pen. Yes, HTC is launching a Galaxy Note competitor."
http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/26/verizons-summer-fall-2012-smartphone-roadmap/
If the Scribe pen is going to be built into the Phone like it is the the S-Pen...this may be worth looking at. I would preffer a 5 inch to a 5.3 inch...that tiny bit may make the difference on making it easier to touch the Symbol switch button on the keyboard...plus a 1080p display on a 5" display!? and I though a 720p display was sweet!
I don't plan on letting my Note for a while yet, but this would be a nice piece of tech to look forward too.
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emmm if it will be 5 inch lcd screen, then have fun with battery life ;D
Yeah. The power draw will be disgusting. =/
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Looks like an lg vu to me???
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well we will have The Note 2 ... Just watch IFA.....
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Wouldn't be a huge competitor I think, at least for me. The screen would draw massive amounts of power being non-pentile for 5in. Not to mention its also a 1080p screen taking up even more battery for the GPU. So you'd need a huge battery which would make the device heavy and bulky. The krait chip is ok on power consumption, but I still think quad-core, unless there was webtop, is unnecessary. Especially since the a15 dual cores fly and have better power consumption. But then again it's a selling point to some people to have the best of the best. What I want is a Note2 with basically everything the curent has, but the
Exynos 5250 (2.0 dual core cortex a15). I'd like to see an upgraded Mali to go along with it, although they're power as it is anyways. Along with some other small things like LED notification, 12mp camera, and maybe a more accurate stylus (it can be off by 3mm sometimes for me). I would probably buy it quickly then.
Nah, I don't want LCD TFT screen after Super Amoled. Why don't use it?! Even Motorola now use Super Amoled.
Competition of 5" smartphones is a good thing.
If HTC still uses qualcomm CPU, I don't think I will move back to HTC.
I used to be HTC fanboy, really love HTC sense's integration, best proprietary Launcher/UI/framework among ALL android devices, I didn't even feel like I need to root nor change launcher when I was using HTC devices
BUT HTC really has a loose end on hardware spec. when I was going to upgrade my HTC Desire, I was choosing between HTC sensation and Samsung Galaxy SII.
Sensation was a HUGE disappointment to me, sluggish control, pitiful hardware spec as a flagship product. I ended up got the SII.
SII has superb hardware, everything was SO smooth and fast but the touchwiz is a major let down to me. I always hope one day I could use HTC sense on Samsung devices(which now I understand it will never happen)
Now I have Note, still the touchwiz is a real bugger but now I flashed ICS Stunner with Apex launcher, only thing I miss is the function S-Pen with S-memo. the rest are excellent. still not as good as SenseUI for my taste but close enough.
IF new HTC's Note competitor can have the smoothness operation like Samsung's device and retain the ability of SenseUI.
I will move back to HTC in a heartbeat.
I honestly don't like to flash rom, fix this fix that. I like good proprietary stuffs, maybe I am getting old, I don't like to geek around like I used to. I just want to have a phone that works for my taste at the first day I bought it, no mods, no flash.
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Well if the screen is S-LCD2 like the one on the One X then I'll seriously consider it..
Sense is the best UI out there, period (IMHO of course)
But I agree with @whatsaqazza, I'll take dual core A15 over quad core A9 any day, and it's obvious in One S vs One X that it has better performance and better battery life as well
Let's wait and see
Most of the high end devices are fast enough these days. I'd rather see more effort spent on power savings. I'd like to be able to beat the heck out of my device for a good 16 hours and still come home with 20% battery left. Dual core is fine.
What's up with all the "Sense UI" love? I upgraded from an iPhone to my first android phone -- an HTC Evo 4g. I absolutely loved it over the dumb iPhone. Then I upgraded to the Dell Streak 5 because I wanted a bigger phone. I later grew out of it got an HTC Inspire, once again I was a happy camper. So at that point, I decided I would never go back to another NON-HTC phone... until, my friend showed me the new Samsung Infuse 4G.. after playing with it a few mins, I was in LOVE with it! I couldn't believe what I was missing out on, the TouchWiz UI of Samsung made the Android experience even better! The next day I sold mine on craigslist and got me a brand new Infuse 4G off of ebay and have ever since become a fan of Samsung. Even today, after trying out a few Roms and custom launchers from the Market, I always end up coming back to my beloved TouchWiz UI. It is absolutely the best! I just can't stand using my phone without TouchWiz. It's that good!
I ****ing love my Note, but even I can't find a single argument in favour of tw over sense? Sense is just the most polished launcher anywhere.
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What's up with all the "Sense UI" love?
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I tried HTC HD2 and Wildfire about 2-3 months. Touchwiz is crap but Sense is worse, I really don't understand it and I don't like this UI style. It is almost impossible to customize. Very bad that all manufactors spit on Google offer a choice for users to choose Android stock interface or using inconvenient unpolished manufacturer UI, which add so many troubles and eat many % of battery and RAM.
Personally I hate sense. I find TouchWiz smoother, sadly. TouchWiz may lack the feature set or polish, but actual USE is smoother/quicker.
That said it is irrelevant for me until HTC switches screens. Those Pentile LCD's are just ugly IMO.
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Most of the high end devices are fast enough these days. I'd rather see more effort spent on power savings. I'd like to be able to beat the heck out of my device for a good 16 hours and still come home with 20% battery left. Dual core is fine.
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Same situation than in the ultrabook field. Yeah, there are Core i7, quad-core, 3.4 GHz parts, and GPUs with 2 GB dedicated RAM, but that on a small and thin device only means 2 hr battery life, chasis and keyboard hot as hell and noisy fan that breaks twice a year.
I keep using my Galaxy Note on power savings mode, and when I buy a new laptop, I'll make sure it has an Ivy Bridge ULV chip (17 W TDP). I do not run anything that requieres so much power and I do not like hot and noisy things on my hands for hours.
That may be OK on a gaming desktop, with plenty of fans and away from you under a desk, but not on a portable device. Look at the people complaining about the new chip on the New Ipad. Just selling GHz is not the point nowadays.
I can't believe how much people like Sense & Touchwizz.
I think that the best skin over android is Sony's. I just bought an Xperia S for my dad & absolutely love the live wallpaper, the weather widget & the overall skin on the settings list etc. Seriously, nothing else compares IMHO.
That being said, I personally never had a HTC Phone, but have played with a friend's one for a while. I felt that neither Sense nor Touchwizz was really good enough.
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I can't believe how much people like Sense & Touchwizz.
I think that the best skin over android is Sony's. I just bought an Xperia S for my dad & absolutely love the live wallpaper, the weather widget & the overall skin on the settings list etc. Seriously, nothing else compares IMHO.
That being said, I personally never had a HTC Phone, but have played with a friend's one for a while. I felt that neither Sense nor Touchwizz was really good enough.
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Once you are on AOSP or CM9, you don't want to go back to TouchWiz. Also, I coudn't stand Blur while on my Motorola Atrix. I was happy to become "blur-less". I have a friend who has a HTC and they were happy to become "sense-less" as well.
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Personally I hate sense. I find TouchWiz smoother, sadly. TouchWiz may lack the feature set or polish, but actual USE is smoother/quicker.
That said it is irrelevant for me until HTC switches screens. Those Pentile LCD's are just ugly IMO.
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You have literally no idea what you're talking about when it comes to screen technology.
Also, your eyesight must not be exemplary or you would have noticed the phone you tapped this out on uses a pentile subpixel arrangement. ;-)
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1080p on a 5" screen ? .. would that be something like 450ppi ? I find that a stupid waste on battery power on something that tbh, can we really tell with a 5" screen.. I would have opted for a 720p screen to cut cost and save battery.
I could be completely wrong..im just guessing
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1080p on a 5" screen ? .. would that be something like 450ppi ? I find that a stupid waste on battery power on something that tbh, can we really tell with a 5" screen.. I would have opted for a 720p screen to cut cost and save battery.
I could be completely wrong..im just guessing
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I completely agree, but you have people who just want "the best". 1080p is overdoing it, 720p is perfect for 5.3in IMO.
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Always a difficult decision, choosing between the latest and greatest Android phone or the latest and greatest iPhone is a problem that every smartphone user faces at one point or another. Thankfully, the key to solving that problem isn't that far away when you know what to look for. Having both the Samsung Galaxy S III and Apple iPhone 4S here with us, we thought that we absolutely have to ...
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Always a difficult decision, choosing between the latest and greatest Android phone or the latest and greatest iPhone is a problem that every smartphone user faces at one point or another. Thankfully, the key to solving that problem isn't that far away when you know what to look for. Having both the Samsung Galaxy S III and Apple iPhone 4S here with us, we thought that we absolutely have to ...
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This should be fun because the phone arena dude is a massive iPhone fanboy...
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LOL THE FIRST THING ... "The iphone has the benefit of comfort"
Actually, even after using my 4.0" Atrix, the 3.5" devices seem way too cramped for my hand
this video is terrible. hes claiming the iPhone has the better photo quality and hes not showing any photos.
Oh god I couldn't even finish watching that. Somebody please knock some sense into this man, or hire the "wake up" team
Just sold my iPhone4s and waiting for SIII. IPhone is a nice "phone", nothing else. But for other things is too small. Before I have had GNex, SII, Sensation... 4.3 inches is really good size for my hands, but SIII isn't much bigger I think
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meeeh, to each his own. how the phone feels in one's hand is completely subjective to the individual.
I do agree with him that the body of the iPhone looks and feels like a luxury product. But for actual daily use, theres no getting around that the SIII is just better in every aspects other than SMS'ing or typing in phone numbers. Also the icon grid of the iphone is a pain in the a**. The ability to setup home screens is much more useful. And thats just the top of the software iceberg.
I have also come to love the light plastic phones by Samsung. It's hard to break and the warmer feel is just great.
The reviewer does come off as a sort of fanboi. His "final verdict" didn't seem to take into account any specifics of the S3 at all, only a rehash of the usual android vs iphone stereotype.
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LOL THE FIRST THING ... "The iphone has the benefit of comfort"
Actually, even after using my 4.0" Atrix, the 3.5" devices seem way too cramped for my hand
this video is terrible. hes claiming the iPhone has the better photo quality and hes not showing any photos.
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Check the website..... don't think its bias at all he makes some good points but at the end its obvious the gs3 is stronger in calls and multimedia, the only place the iPhone wins is design and camera stills not video.
So if he does love iPhone he isn't showing it in this review , let's not witch hunt.
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The iphone. A great product in its day. The iphone4 was a leading handset in its day. Sadly for the coolaid drinkers that day is long past. The iphone is surpassed in every meaningful way now. Unlike most here though I hope they up their game huge for iphone5 because the iphone is what made all of the many better handsets that can be had now happen. A **** hot iphone 5 means that everyone gets better. If they don't it means I get an iphone five. I love competition.
We are at a point were you can not make the phone any better in terms of screen resolution speed and battery life so I think phones after this will be pretty similar. I don't expect anything death shattering from the iPhone 5 . Maybe a bigger screen.
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We are at a point were you can not make the phone any better in terms of screen resolution speed and battery life so I think phones after this will be pretty similar.
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Er, while I don't claim to be an expert on Moore's law, I doubt you have good grounds for that claim either. Both screen technology and processor power have improved significantly each year, and indeed the iPhone still has to play catch-up in terms on specs. There is definitely room for improvement of the iPhone at the very least (and probably everything else as well).
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We are at a point were you can not make the phone any better in terms of screen resolution speed and battery life so I think phones after this will be pretty similar. I don't expect anything death shattering from the iPhone 5 . Maybe a bigger screen.
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I agree. The coming phone might do better in benchmarks, but in real life, that difference will be barely noticeable.
Just look at some of the Note vs. HOX on youtube. The difference is much less than the specs would suggest.
Edit: In battery life there is much to improve!
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Just look at some of the Note vs. HOX on youtube. The difference is much less than the specs would suggest.
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1) Last year not being much different from this year does not imply that development has been capped.
2) One cannot expect a notable difference anyway, since everything in the current ecosystem is designed not to take advantage of so many resources. As the resources grow, however, so will demand tend to grow with it. Eventually, for example, with enough cores, enough RAM, and an efficient enough battery, it will become feasible for the OS to simply leave all background tasks running, just like on our computer. That would be a notable change, but clearly it could not happen overnight.
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1) Last year not being much different from this year does not imply that development has been capped.
2) One cannot expect a notable difference anyway, since everything in the current ecosystem is designed not to take advantage of so many resources. As the resources grow, however, so will demand tend to grow with it. Eventually, for example, with enough cores, enough RAM, and an efficient enough battery, it will become feasible for the OS to simply leave all background tasks running, just like on our computer. That would be a notable change, but clearly it could not happen overnight.
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I was just talking about the next iPhone not about the general development of phones. Given how phones are used this year and probably next year, doubling up the hardware specs, will not result in a twice as good user experience.
When you shoot a video from an iPhone 4S its look like you have already zoom a little bit and apart from that its video quality is smooth, colours look so bright and vivid. On the other hand video quality of S3 we will came to know after it get launch.
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Without knowing what that comment was this post is meaningless.
You cant compare those two phones. You already know that s3 is better.
After all quadcore is much faster than dual.
Here is a comparison that my friend wrote comparing the two devices. Both devices will be coming to US carriers and we will need to make a decision between which device to buy. Check out the review and then let me know which one you think your going to purchase.
Review: http://brobuffet.com/2012/09/14/apple-iphone-5-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-2/
how do you compare two vastly different phones for vastly different customer population? also honestly, why is everyone comparing to the iPhone still? while they may sell the most due to people either being invested in ios or for cult like reasons, i really don't see them as the standard anymore. comparison is great for specs but i'm just tired of everyone regarding the iPhone as the standard.
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...i really don't see them as the standard anymore.
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Exactly.
FWIW I will be getting the note2 to replace my OG Droid. I want to combine my android phone and android tab into one and carry less devices.
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Its like comparing a jacket vs. A tank-top
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Its like comparing a jacket vs. A tank-top
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But that answer depend on who is wearing what, and from a viewer point of view rather than user point of view. Well at least that is not my brain is talking.
Ok, first off. Comparing two phones that aren't out/ didn't personally use them for a while is not fair. A6 is probably dual core A15's, the iPad 3 doesn't have the same processor but it still is the fastest(check benchmarks/game FPS). In 3D performance, iPhone 5 would probably win. Operating system is biased and that's the end of it. You can only state the features but which one is better is your opinion. I think iOS works very well, but that's about it. It gets boring quickly even though it's doing its job of working as expected. Android is way more functional and with ICS and later, apps aren't ugly and have a style now.
Okay, seriously? Siri is a better assistant than Google Now? Siri has more sports knowledge? That is incredibly wrong.
Number 1, Siri gets all its info from Google. Number 2, Google Now updates you prior, during, and after the game has been played.
This review was not completed with the best support, not to mention the iPhone hasn't been released to effectively compare speeds, camera, etc. Although, I have no doubt the GNII will destroy the iPhone 5.
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Here is a comparison that my friend wrote comparing the two devices. Both devices will be coming to US carriers and we will need to make a decision between which device to buy. Check out the review and then let me know which one you think your going to purchase.
Review: http://brobuffet.com/2012/09/14/apple-iphone-5-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-2/
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I appreciate your friend for writing this comparison and you for sharing it with us, but so many mistakes in his comparisons. The iphone 5 and the iPad 3 do not share the same processor, the iPad has an A5x chip ( arm cortex A9)while the new iphone has an A6 chip( arm cortex A15 which is a beast). The iphone camera is known to be one of the best around, I won't jump to conclusion on which is better until we see what the note 2 can do. Siri is light years better than S voice, but Google now is better than siri. I'm definitely not defending the iphone but since this is an honest thread we have to state the facts. Its hard to judge the exterior of each phone cause to each his own, and as far as battery life goes, I expect the note 2 to map the floor out with any phone on the market, including the iphone 5. The note 2 comes with a 1.6 GHz Exynos 4 quad processor ( quad core) which is a beast also. Both phones have powerful processors that will make them fly. I prefer the note 2 cause of the s pen and its new features, the 5.5 inch screen, the OS, the ability customise it however you want it. But the iphone 5 is no slouch, its a very good phone but it doesn't deserve all the hype its getting. Deuces
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I appreciate your friend for writing this comparison and you for sharing it with us, but so many mistakes in his comparisons. The iphone 5 and the iPad 3 do not share the same processor, the iPad has an A5x chip ( arm cortex A9)while the new iphone has an A6 chip( arm cortex A15 which is a beast). The iphone camera is known to be one of the best around, I won't jump to conclusion on which is better until we see what the note 2 can do. Siri is light years better than S voice, but Google now is better than siri. I'm definitely not defending the iphone but since this is an honest thread we have to state the facts. Its hard to judge the exterior of each phone cause to each his own, and as far as battery life goes, I expect the note 2 to map the floor out with any phone on the market, including the iphone 5. The note 2 comes with a 1.6 GHz Exynos 4 quad processor ( quad core) which is a beast also. Both phones have powerful processors that will make them fly. I prefer the note 2 cause of the s pen and its new features, the 5.5 inch screen, the OS, the ability customise it however you want it. But the iphone 5 is no slouch, its a very good phone but it doesn't deserve all the hype its getting. Deuces
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You make some excellent points my man. I still believe that Androids vs iPhones continues to be based on what the user is looking for. I think the gap in that argument is changing but it still exists.
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You make some excellent points my man. I still believe that Androids vs iPhones continues to be based on what the user is looking for. I think the gap in that argument is changing but it still exists.
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It all comes down to what you looking for, at the end of the day. Its is clear that I phones cater more to the masses, people that want a good phone that just works, versus android that caters to the more tech oriented people who like customisation and modding. I have a friend who used to be a crazy ROM flasher, he actually got me into android. Now he doesn't really flash ROM or anything, he just wants something that is stable and works well and he is actually considering getting an iphone ( he used to hate I phones). All the android vs apple iphone is based on that, whether you want something great that just work and you don't have to worry about a thing, or you want something else that is also great, works but can be perfected to your liking.
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It all comes down to what you looking for, at the end of the day. Its is clear that I phones cater more to the masses, people that want a good phone that just works, versus android that caters to the more tech oriented people who like customisation and modding. I have a friend who used to be a crazy ROM flasher, he actually got me into android. Now he doesn't really flash ROM or anything, he just wants something that is stable and works well and he is actually considering getting an iphone ( he used to hate I phones). All the android vs apple iphone is based on that, whether you want something great that just work and you don't have to worry about a thing, or you want something else that is also great, works but can be perfected to your liking.
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something catered to the masses wouldn't cost an arm and a leg. Android is catered to the mass with different levels of price range. Android stock is just as easy to use.
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Finally a thread where people aren't just bashing one thing or the other. Honestly just like everyone here, I think these phones are in a different class, and really can't be compared. People who go for the iPhone 5 have a lot to look forward to, the phone is still fast, has a nice screen, and can finally use LTE which is great. What I don't get is that many people still can't really appreciate it, it is a beast of a phone in such a small package, I mean no offense to the note 2 but that thing is huge and has a lot more space for a bigger or better chip, more ram, bigger battery, a lot of things but the iPhone 5 can still hold it's own and still be really small. Now I will be getting the note 2 because I can't wait for that thing, it's like everything samsung could ever do into one package, it might be the first in the US with a quad core and LTE and a 5.5 screen, and the screen is unique on it's own, hd super amoled, with it being sort of in between a pentile and a amoled plus screen. Really spec wise it is a tech geeks wet dream, and I don't care if I look dumb making calls, I barely do that anyways, currently have the og epic touch and the devs here have kept this phone alive, I can even run jb on this. With the hype around the note 2 I hope it gets a lot of dev support because that thing was made for paranoid android and I can't wait to start flashing.
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People who go for the iPhone 5 have a lot to look forward to, the phone is still fast, has a nice screen, and can finally use LTE which is great.
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That or until Samsung decided to do what it said and sue Apple. And if thing goes Sammy way, the there might be injunction b4 iPhone 5 ship. Who know?
Please provide link to where it has been confirmed that the iphone has A15.
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Please provide link to where it has been confirmed that the iphone has A15.
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Google is your friend.
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I think Samsung should sue apple for stealing its ideaof extending battery life.
In my honest opinion, there is absolutely no reason to own an iPhone 5 as it basically reinforces my belief that Apple suckers people in to $200 software upgrades. Samsung ( and others ) time and time again comes out with the stronger hardware. A lot of people say it comes down to personal preference, but I fail to see how people could prefer the iPhone. Out of date hardware, smaller screen, limited OS and customization abilities, having to be hooked to iTunes, etc.
I so wanted to try the iPhone 5 instead of my GSIII, but after the lackluster press release and underwhelming specs... I was left sorely disappointed. I'll be saving my upgrade for now.
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Yea, I can't believe people think they are innovators. During their keynote they were explaining how apps designed for the 3.5" screen will work on the 4" screen. Luckily their outstanding engineers and advanced technology, they can center the app on the screen and put a black bar on the top and bottom of the app. WOW. Everyone give Apple a hand clap for their innovation in the field. Android on the other hand, sets their apps to determine the density and automatically sizes it to your screen....woo....black bars would look way better though *sarcasm*
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Its basically a slightly stretched 4s, makes me yawn to even contemplate it, how can you compare such a little toy to a NOTE version 1 or 2, even though they are so proud and numbly excited about the ohh arrr slightly bigger screen, its still too small, it looks exactly the same just a load of apps dotted about on a screen inside a square edged lump, these simple phones have there place with the mums and babies groups with there designer gold handbags and tasselled lifestyles.
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You can't compare the iPhone 5 with the Note 2. Complete different devices.