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Need to purposely permanently brick phone...

So... my girlfriend decided to spill water on my Droid 2 and thank god It did not have a battery in. I let it dry for a couple days and everything works perfectly fine but it seems that some liquid seeped into the glass screen and when it dried it left blotches that are covering the screen and annoying.
What I want to know and do is how to permanently brick my droid 2 and if my thought process is right.
Brick the phone, call VZW, get a next day air replacement, send the brick phone back. Everything ok?

Uh, you're thought process is very wrong. And technically that is fraud.

You're a real idiot to post this on a public forum. Especially one as well regarded as XDA developers.

1.) Slap dat hoe you call your girlfriend.
2.) Think about what you're trying to do(does it seem unfair, retarded, or just downright illegal?).
3.) Get the **** off of XDA.
Frauding cheapo.
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What you are talking about IS considered fraud (as stated above), and XDA does not condone fraud. Please seek advice elsewhere. Thank you.
Besides, they can still tell there was water damage. There is a little dot near the sdcard that should be white with red x's. When it comes in contact with water, it turns completely red. If it does, your warrenty is completely void, even if the phone is bricked.

NiceGuysFinishLast said:
You're a real idiot to post this on a public forum. Especially one as well regarded as XDA developers.
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Your might be right damn. Guess I should change my name from komputer freek so it does not match my bill when I call them...Wait. They won't know it's me.
timur525 said:
1.) Slap dat hoe you call your girlfriend.
2.) Think about what you're trying to do(does it seem unfair, retarded, or just downright illegal?).
3.) Get the **** off of XDA.
Frauding cheapo.
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Phone still works perfectly fine. Just a blotched screen. Touch screen is 100 percent effective and nothing else is wrong. A cosmetic issue. Your right, hmm paying full retail for a phone does make me cheap.
orkillakilla said:
What you are talking about IS considered fraud (as stated above), and XDA does not condone fraud. Please seek advice elsewhere. Thank you.
Besides, they can still tell there was water damage. There is a little dot near the sdcard that should be white with red x's. When it comes in contact with water, it turns completely red. If it does, your warrenty is completely void, even if the phone is bricked.
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Installing rom's voids your wArranty too huh? But anyway, never got to the dot that shows water damage.
kwheel596 said:
Uh, you're thought process is very wrong. And technically that is fraud.
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So when people brick there phones and send it back like the countless topics have told them on this forum, where is this outlash calling fraud?

did you not have insurance on it?

botnryan said:
did you not have insurance on it?
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In 10 years of owning a cell phone I have never lost, broken or spilled anything on it. So in my case, insurance for the most part would have been a waste. Also, insurance, unless it covers loss, is a fraud within itself.
My friends have never purchased insurance and have just strolled into the stores (VZW) and exchanged for a refurbished make.
But, yes, I should have gotten insurance.
Also, to the people who are claiming fraud, don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.
This is for all other purpose a phone modding/hacking forum. For god sakes there are stickies saying how to activate wireless tether for free.
Now to the butthurt people above me, I sure hope you are not using any of those patches or tether apps because "THAT IS FRAUD".
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Try using the wireless tether for root users on the market
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Illegal. You should pay VZW to provide you with the 3G hotspot tether app or wifi tethering. But yet you are telling people to use the free one, huh?
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According to some things that I have read, your Droid 1 needs to be running Cyanogenmod 6 in order for it to pick up Ad Hoc networks, which is what your Droid 2 puts out. If it is running that then everything I have read points to yes, you can tether the Droid 1 to the Droid 2.
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Hmmm, so when you posted that in another topic, to the original poster, there was no problem to you, with him getting free wifi from his phone without paying?

I don't see why you're trying to defend yourself, what you're doing is commiting fraud, regardless of what you do you will be caught because of the cosmetic issue, now stop coming through the forum acting all high and mighty when you're doing something illegal, we don't want your kind here.
Oh, and voiding your warranty is not the same as commiting fraud, ones illegal, one isnt, now gtfo
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Have you tried a hammer?
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Try getting a replacement. See how u get charged. Then u too can see the light flashing bright yellow to use caution when leaving ur phone in anyplace where liquid may come in contact with it.
Be glad it still works...

Look buddy, you can try to justify yourself however you want. The fact is, what your doing is fraud, and you shouldn't be asking people how to brick your device to get a new one. Plan and simple.
About the wireless tethering. I'm almost positive Verizon knows about these forums. They would be stupid if they didn't. Therefor I'm sure they know about the wireless tethering apps out there, THAT ARE ON THE MARKET NO LESS, and yet they don't try to get it shut down so they obviously aren't that worried about it. And don't you think if the wireless tether app was so illegal google would have taken it off the market? The way I look at it, I'm paying for UNLIMITED DATA, why should it matter if I share some with a computer.
Now go ahead and dispute this however you want (I know your going to), but you might as well go somewhere else cause you won't get much help here. Thanks

orkillakilla said:
Look buddy, you can try to justify yourself however you want. The fact is, what your doing is fraud, and you shouldn't be asking people how to brick your device to get a new one. Plan and simple.
About the wireless tethering. I'm almost positive Verizon knows about these forums. They would be stupid if they didn't. Therefor I'm sure they know about the wireless tethering apps out there, THAT ARE ON THE MARKET NO LESS, and yet they don't try to get it shut down so they obviously aren't that worried about it. And don't you think if the wireless tether app was so illegal google would have taken it off the market? The way I look at it, I'm paying for UNLIMITED DATA, why should it matter if I share some with a computer.
Now go ahead and dispute this however you want (I know your going to), but you might as well go somewhere else cause you won't get much help here. Thanks
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OH I forgot that law that if someone knows you are doing something and they don't stop you it's OK. That's a new one, is that like the 15th amendment or something?
"Officer it's ok, I told my brother that I was going to rob this bank today at 12:30, he didn't stop me so you have no jurisdiction here".

komputerfreek said:
OH I forgot that law that if someone knows you are doing something and they don't stop you it's OK. That's a new one, is that like the 15th amendment or something?
"Officer it's ok, I told my brother that I was going to rob this bank today at 12:30, he didn't stop me so you have no jurisdiction here".
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Yes well that's interesting logic. Anyways, I'm not going to waste my time here. Good luck with your fraud.
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Stop talking about the people who root their phones and void their warranty that is bad yes, but completely software related. Has nothing to do with the appearence or the general ability of the phone to do all its tasks. As someone said above be glad it is not broken and live with it. Its your own fault it got "ruined".
Also, the market is run by google not verizon so anything posted their is out of Verizons hands. Still illegal and not saying its right but it is much more out of verizons hands.
And to answer your question there is no way to brick your phone to the point of it not working without Verizon noticing. Deal with it.

This thread is out of hand. Stop flaming. This topic probably doesn't break the forum rules, so if you think it's of questionable ethic, don't post, or report it and let the forum mod make the call.
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Speaking of" unlimited data", didn't that turn out to be a lie?
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I'm running stock jf6. Nothing illegal about that. Get on 4chan.
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Voiding Warranty and Fraud
There's nothing illegal or fraudulent about rooting your phone in and of itself, all it does is void the warranty. However, if someone was going to root their phone, then unroot it and send it back to the manufacturer under the warranty, THAT would technically be fraud, but that's completely irrelevant in this case.
Why do you even need to brick it anyway? The spots on your screen seem like enough of a reason to try and get a replacement.
What you tell them of how it actually happened is all on you though.

komputerfreek said:
So...
What I want to know and do is how to permanently brick my droid 2 and if my thought process is right.
Brick the phone, call VZW, get a next day air replacement, send the brick phone back. Everything ok?
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What this forum needs is a wall of shame thread for posts like these.
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Ridiculous Policing.

So it's odd to me how phone forums get locked and policed based on certain policies yet are totally contradicted in themselves.
For example, insurance fraud or any kind of proposed dishonesty is frowned upon and closed. Yet tutorials on how to root and unroot (which is mainly done to return a phone or for advanced in house tecnical assistance) is considered ok.
Yes, I'm rooted. And, yes I'm running a custom rom and love the freedom to do so. But to unroot and hide the fact that I was originally rooted for purposes of tecnical support or phone replacement purposes poses the same illegitimacy as the aformentioned example. Couldn't one argue that anything can be done for "development sake."
Now I haven't actually had the need to unroot (knock on wood) and am greatful to know how to do so. But, how is this different from all the other so called immoral threads.
No, I'm not flaming, nor am I affliated with any posters on here in anyway. I just think it's ridiculous that some posts are considered some kind of breech of morality that seem to lie on the same grounds as those that aren't.
P.S. I own my phone legitimately.
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There was a court case against Apple for jailbrwaking the iJoke phones. The person won against Apple and the courts said the only way they could deny warranty on any phone was if Apple gave them away for free, but since they make customers pay for the phone, it is the customers property to do as they wanted and that jailbreaking in itself could not void warranty.
Search online, it is all there.
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Insurance fraud is deliberately breaking your phone in order to get a new free replacement. This is a criminal offence.
Rooting/unrooting is not a criminal offence.
Spot the difference?

I do and as mentioned am not affliated with any of that illegal activity as some might be.
But to me it's all illegal.
The intent is still the same. Just my opinion. The phone is being modified in a way not intended by the manufacturer.
Not looking to get banned as I haven't been to date.
I enjoy the benefits of the devs on here.
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aerajan said:
I do and as mentioned am not affliated with any of that illegal activity as some might be.
But to me it's all illegal.
The intent is still the same. Just my opinion. The phone is being modified in a way not intended by the manufacturer.
Not looking to get banned as I haven't been to date.
I enjoy the benefits of the devs on here.
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You don't even have to unroot to have your phone fixed at sprint. People do it just in case. And I don't care how HTC wanted me to use this phone. I paid 500$ for this and I have every right to do what I want with it.
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702

Rooting is not illegal.
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Dear Mr scotsman I'm not the one who broke the phone! I have the phone as payment for rooting his new phone (I offered ten bucks for it but he said just keep it) I just wanted to know if it could be used as a phone. Maybe you should have read what I wrote instead of accusing me of insurance fraud. Now my friend who dropped the phone you can accuse of many things and he would be guilty of most of them. If you had a problem with the post you could have first answered my question. then let me know i couldn't talk about fixing broken phones before shutting the first one down so I wouldn't have had to start a second one. Thanks to those people that did answer my question i appreciate it
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L_B_J_1 said:
Dear Mr scotsman I'm not the one who broke the phone! I have the phone as payment for rooting his new phone (I offered ten bucks for it but he said just keep it) I just wanted to know if it could be used as a phone. Maybe you should have read what I wrote instead of accusing me of insurance fraud. Now my friend who dropped the phone you can accuse of many things and he would be guilty of most of them. If you had a problem with the post you could have first answered my question. then let me know i couldn't talk about fixing broken phones before shutting the first one down so I wouldn't have had to start a second one. Thanks to those people that did answer my question i appreciate it
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I suggest you re-read my posts. I never accused anyone of insurance fraud.
I said 'DISCUSSION OF INSURANCE FRAUD" is not allowed. See the difference?
EDIT: In fact, let me quote my exact posts, to make it clear:
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Discussion of insurance fraud isn't allowed here.
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the_scotsman said:
I closed the last one for a reason. And yet you start another one?
NO DISCUSSION ABOUT FRAUD, OR QUESTIONS ABOUT FRAUDULENTLY OBTAINED/DAMAGED PHONES.
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We weren't discussing insurance fraud!!! READ THE POST
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All I wanted to know is if it could be used as a phone again
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aerajan said:
But to unroot and hide the fact that I was originally rooted for purposes of tecnical support or phone replacement purposes poses the same illegitimacy as the aformentioned example.
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I have my EVO rooted. Once in the past I unrooted it to bring it to the store. I did absolutely not do anything immoral, unethical or illegal. The USB port stopped charging and actually pulled partially out when I unplugged the phone. There is a known problem with the EVO that this can happen so the phone is covered under the manufacturers warranty. I did not want my account flagged for rooting so I unrooted it before I brought it in for service. The very first thing they did when I walked in the store was unlock my phone, and asked if the phone was rooted (I think they asked because it looked different- I use launcher pro). There is no way that the USB port problem was caused by rooting. Is anything I did illegitimate? No. I only did it to avoid problems in the future. If you brick the phone you can not unroot for a replacement, you would have to claim it was damaged in another way, which would be fraud. The only unethical unroot I have seen people doing is losing their RSA keys and unrooting then claiming 4g just stopped working, but those threads are often flamed by people that think this is wrong.

All you had to do is say no it can't. I say thank you and I move on, its that easy. Good day sir
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L_B_J_1 said:
All I wanted to know is if it could be used as a phone again
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And that is my point. We don't allow discussion of phones that have been obtained/replaced by means of insurance fraud. I know you are just asking a question, but it's a question that is about a phone that was replaced with a new one by a fraudulent insurance claim.
L_B_J_1 said:
All you had to do is say no it can't. I say thank you and I move on, its that easy. Good day sir
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I don't know the answer...though I could hazard a guess.
Anyway, end of discussion.

That's all I was looking for... I wish you would have put that in my first post. But thanks for the clarification
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WOW, I love threads like this. Someone gets their feelings hurt and wants to argue with a moderator..hahaha
Word of advice to the OP, you're not going to win this one! Scotsman has the rules on his side and he holds all the cards...just saying!
On the other hand, Scotsman I see you haven't sold that HD2 on eBay like you said you were going to do....has the price come down on it or are you firm on 300?

aerajan said:
Yes, I'm rooted. And, yes I'm running a custom rom...
and love the freedom to do so. But to unroot and hide the fact that I was originally rooted for purposes of tecnical support or phone replacement purposes poses the same illegitimacy as the aformentioned example.
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It is not about hiding the fact it was rooted, it is about re-installing the stock ROM so Sprint repair can do a proper diagnosis. I'm sure step one of the troubleshooting manual says something like:
1. Is the phone software correct and up to date?
Which is why Sprint doesn't care that you are S-OFF, and why they have to install the latest version of the ROM if not already installed.
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got my new s4 today and I dont even want to use it :(

I got my S4 today, rushed home to open the package really excited to come straight onto xda and root it, as I need to run arliberator app in my car and also titanium backup to get all my data over from my old galaxy.
Now I see that i cannot root it because of Knox and that even though it is unlocked after kkitkat I wont be able to use my foreign sims when i am abroad which i always do as roaming costs are extortionate!
well my S4 has sat here all day switched off and I don't even want to switch it on, its a useless brick as far as i'm concerned i am hugely disapointed and really wish I had bought the Z1 or even the old xperia z instead of this SamDung

maybe you are one of the lucky ones with an old boot loader .if your firmware is older than mgg like ending with mga you can root without voiding your warranty .

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I got my S4 today, rushed home to open the package really excited to come straight onto xda and root it, as I need to run arliberator app in my car and also titanium backup to get all my data over from my old galaxy.
Now I see that i cannot root it because of Knox and that even though it is unlocked after kkitkat I wont be able to use my foreign sims when i am abroad which i always do as roaming costs are extortionate!
well my S4 has sat here all day switched off and I don't even want to switch it on, its a useless brick as far as i'm concerned i am hugely disapointed and really wish I had bought the Z1 or even the old xperia z instead of this SamDung
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Are you not still within a cooling off period if youre not happy and want to return it for a refund?
I wouldn't rush out to get the Z1 either as there appear to be issues unlocking the boot loader as in the below link. Ive also had HTC devices were it was nearly impossible to gain s-off (having to perform a wire trick to apply an engineering hboot). If you check the HTC One forums there are people on a recent hboot who are unable to s-off as its been locked down by HTC, which can cause headaches when trying to flash certain ROMs.
The reality is Samsung just isn't making devices specifically catering for people who like to modify/flash custom stuff. If you want full control of your device with an easily unlockable boot loader, then get a Nexus.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/unlocking-sony-xperia-z1-bootloader-breaks-camera/
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2 questions:
1) What is your firmware? Old firmwares can be rooted fine
2) Even if you have knox, you can still root. You just lose your warranty. Are you ok with that?

nwsk said:
2 questions:
1) What is your firmware? Old firmwares can be rooted fine
2) Even if you have knox, you can still root. You just lose your warranty. Are you ok with that?
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I'm on MH8 4.2.2 so i'm affected before i even had a chance to set up my phone, I didnt buy it on a contract and i cant return it now.
Of course I am not willing to void the 2 year warranty on an expensive phone this new, no way!
The xperia boot loaders don't need to be unlocked to flash modded/custom roms if they come off a sony base rom so it's all good, better camera waterproof and a dev friendly company
so now then...Anyone want to buy this S4 from me?

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I'm on MH8 4.2.2 so i'm affected before i even had a chance to set up my phone, I didnt buy it on a contract and i cant return it now.
Of course I am not willing to void the 2 year warranty on an expensive phone this new, no way!
The xperia boot loaders don't need to be unlocked to flash modded/custom roms if they come off a sony base rom so it's all good, better camera waterproof and a dev friendly company
so now then...Anyone want to buy this S4 from me?
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How much $$$
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iamflamez said:
I'm on MH8 4.2.2 so i'm affected before i even had a chance to set up my phone, I didnt buy it on a contract and i cant return it now.
Of course I am not willing to void the 2 year warranty on an expensive phone this new, no way!
The xperia boot loaders don't need to be unlocked to flash modded/custom roms if they come off a sony base rom so it's all good, better camera waterproof and a dev friendly company
so now then...Anyone want to buy this S4 from me?
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You do realise that even if you didn't have the locked down Knox firmware, you'd still be voiding the warranty, regardless of if you used an app like Triangle Away, right? That's the risk everyone takes when rooting.
You've basically just come on here and opened a new thread to whine about something the vast majority of us already know about.
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warranty is a fiction it dont protect against software bug bricks as there is no chance that you permanently brick your phome that way. it also dont protect for physical damages and water effects. if something is wrong service tell that is your fault anyway. so dont bother about warranty and root it
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JonesWTF said:
You do realise that even if you didn't have the locked down Knox firmware, you'd still be voiding the warranty, regardless of if you used an app like Triangle Away, right? That's the risk everyone takes when rooting.
You've basically just come on here and opened a new thread to whine about something the vast majority of us already know about.
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Umm rooting does not void your warranty. At least not here in Finland. The company is responsible for proving that the cause for say a hardware defect was indeed caused by the software and not an error on their part if the phone for some reason breaks down. They usually don't bother and just repair it under warranty.

JonesWTF said:
You do realise that even if you didn't have the locked down Knox firmware, you'd still be voiding the warranty, regardless of if you used an app like Triangle Away, right? That's the risk everyone takes when rooting.
You've basically just come on here and opened a new thread to whine about something the vast majority of us already know about.
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Well FYI I've had to take a phone in to samsung for warranty before and it was really easy to flash back to stock and then take in in under warranty, this is now not possible so I hope nothing goes wrong with your phone otherwise you'll be the one whining

damador said:
warranty is a fiction it dont protect against software bug bricks as there is no chance that you permanently brick your phome that way. it also dont protect for physical damages and water effects. if something is wrong service tell that is your fault anyway. so dont bother about warranty and root it
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there has been issues before on previous samsungs with usb connectors stopping charging, phone randomly switching off etc and who knows what might wear out on the S4 as its still pretty new, I'd rather not take the risk, also if you come to sell your phone and the buyer sees your warranty is void it will make your phone harder to re sell on

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Well FYI I've had to take a phone in to samsung for warranty before and it was really easy to flash back to stock and then take in in under warranty, this is now not possible so I hope nothing goes wrong with your phone otherwise you'll be the one whining
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I've already accepted the risk. If something happens, it'd be very hypocritical of me to whine about something I knew could and did happen.
I know how easy it is to flash back to stock and hide evidence of it being rooted and customised. I've been doing this since the G1.
You won't find me opening a thread when I don't like something. Especially when it could have been prevented by doing a little research before buying the phone.
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Umm rooting does not void your warranty. At least not here in Finland. The company is responsible for proving that the cause for say a hardware defect was indeed caused by the software and not an error on their part if the phone for some reason breaks down. They usually don't bother and just repair it under warranty.
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Here in the UK, it's kind of the same. Yet companies here will still try and point the finger of blame at custom software when it's clearly a hardware fault.
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JonesWTF said:
I've already accepted the risk. If something happens, it'd be very hypocritical of me to whine about something I knew could and did happen.
I know how easy it is to flash back to stock and hide evidence of it being rooted and customised. I've been doing this since the G1.
You won't find me opening a thread when I don't like something. Especially when it could have been prevented by doing a little research before buying the phone.
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Here in the UK, it's kind of the same. Yet companies here will still try and point the finger of blame at custom software when it's clearly a hardware fault.
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well hopefully my whining will help someone doing a little research to notice the issue then, you're now whining about me whining so lets leave it here lol

iamflamez said:
well hopefully my whining will help someone doing a little research to notice the issue then, you're now whining about me whining so lets leave it here lol
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Hahaha! I realised that when I hit the post button. Sorry, bro.
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JonesWTF said:
Hahaha! I realised that when I hit the post button. Sorry, bro.
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haha! no problem bro, :good:

Give Up Warranty for CWM

I know a bunch of us out here have been anxiously awaiting the arrival of a custom recovery, be it cwm, twrp, or philiz. After having root for several weeks and modding my note 3 the way I like it, I am wondering if there is a recovery method that will void my warranty but is already available. I realize many may not like this option, but at the same time I'm sure many like myself feel it's worth the tradeoff. Given the fact with a custom recovery and backups, many of the issues that may occur needing repair, outside of hardware failures obviously, can be fixed or restored via cwm. Many if the software bugs or issues that sometimes occur can be fixed via flashing stock after clean wipe or in the future a custom rom. So I'm all for a warranty proof recovery but at this point I'd much rather give up my warranty without hesitation than go without custom recovery.
What about you guys, is it just me or are there others around here that would do the same? And please if anyone has succeeded in flashing cwm or twrp and broke warranty let me and others know, who are willing to do the same as most if not all threads are talking about warranty proof recovery.
Thanks
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I'm with you a long as we don't rush anyone to an incomplete "solution".

At this point I could care less about warranty. I would much rather get the ability to flash a super debloated Rom or even AOSP(yes I know I won't be able to use the pen). I think the Knox 0x1 possibility may be why there isn't a CWM/TWRP yet because the devs are wanting to preserve the warranty of the device. I know DesignGears has already tripped his Knox flag.

Jammol said:
At this point I could care less about warranty. I would much rather get the ability to flash a super debloated Rom or even AOSP(yes I know I won't be able to use the pen). I think the Knox 0x1 possibility may be why there isn't a CWM/TWRP yet because the devs are wanting to preserve the warranty of the device. I know DesignGears has already tripped his Knox flag.
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All I want is a debloated ROM. I just want to see how this phone runs without all the extra crap running in the background. I hate to say it..but I kind of like Touchwiz as long as I can theme it with Wanam!

tropazr said:
All I want is a debloated ROM. I just want to see how this phone runs without all the extra crap running in the background. I hate to say it..but I kind of like Touchwiz as long as I can theme it with Wanam!
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True that. Wanam and Unicon for me.

In a heartbeat I give up warranty for the option to finally get CWM, and get an awesome ROM like Scott's CleanROM on this phone. Debloat this beast, and tweaks to give even better battery life, and also makes the phone smoother / faster than stock.

Warranty from AT&T is pretty worthless anyways. I had some severe issues on my HTC One X with the Gorilla Glass just scratching to hell for no apparent reason and they refused to even switch it out with a refurb. There was a petition going around online with people claiming the same issues...I even sent the store manager a link to an XDA thread about it and they told me they would do nothing for me because it was considered physical damage and it was my fault. Garbage. I almost left them over it...the GN3 tempted me to stay.
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Why is this a thread
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MrPlNK said:
Why is this a thread
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At this point is there anything else to really talk about?
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AT&T is pretty lax on battery replacement. My original battery had problems reading the current charge percentage remaining after fully charged. They just sent a replacement without asking for the old one to be sent back. Now I have a spare even though it does take the correct readings.

Jammol said:
True that. Wanam and Unicon for me.
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Please explain what Unicon is. I am familiar with Wanam, but never heard of Unicon.
Thank you.

I paid cash off contract to do what I want with it ..warranty is not a big deal for me
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bfleischman said:
Please explain what Unicon is. I am familiar with Wanam, but never heard of Unicon.
Thank you.
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It's an xposed module for theming your icons no matter what launcher you're using. It uses icon themes from all the popular launchers that are in the playstore.

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Because so many people cry about not being able to have their full warranty that it's probably holding back development. They don't realize that AT&T will not check their phones and send them a replacement whether they have a custom rom, Knox 0x1, etc. I've personally have NEVER had a device denied. They've been rooted, they've had custom roms and I've ALWAYS have gotten a replacement. So give it up will all this "I need my warranty crap." Seriously.

SkizzMcNizz said:
Because so many people cry about not being able to have their full warranty that it's probably holding back development. They don't realize that AT&T will not check their phones and send them a replacement whether they have a custom rom, Knox 0x1, etc. I've personally have NEVER had a device denied. They've been rooted, they've had custom roms and I've ALWAYS have gotten a replacement. So give it up will all this "I need my warranty crap." Seriously.
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I turned in an htc one stuck on the stock 4.3 GE rom lol never heard anything from them about it.. in fact they sent me a brand new htc one.. ive had nothing but awesome experience with att warranty department. But then again I am on a business account so maybe they treat me differently
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I had an issue with my microsd card not staying in my note 2 today.
Rooted, custom rom.
I took it into ATT service center, figuring that they wouldn't care about root/rom, since the damn spring wasn't working on the micro sd slot.
The tech there told me she couldn't give me a replacement, since the phone was rooted; even though that had nothing to do with my sd card spring issue. She told me if I unrooted it and came back, she would then replace my phone.
I reminded her that rooting has nothing to do with a sd card spring, but she claimed that Samsung now inspects all the returns from the service centers, and if they find root, there is no credit given..
I find that impossible to believe, when you consider how many phones get returned every day, nation/world wide, but, my only point is, you never know what the status of your warranty is with ATT until you try to make a claim...
Never had issues like this with Sprint ..they couldn't care less if you were rooted..
And, BTW, I too am a corporate client with 4 lines on ATT, so no "special" treatment for me..

To those wondering why I started this thread, as others have mentioned above...every dev or cwm twrp thread ive come across talks about the hold up for warranty and not tripping the efuse or whatever....I paid outright for my note 3 and have never bothered with warranty anyway, and am sick of waiting to have cwm for safe backups for modding. As I noted im sure there are just as many who dont care enough or at all about the warranty or flash counter to give up custom recovery...I for one never bother fixing my flash counter on any of my phones or tabs, as I just dont care enough to worry about it, especially given the freedom and availability of flashing stock, covering your custom status theu custom recovery for any situation other than nard brick hardware failure. So please, any dev that sees us in this post asking for a dirty flash for cust recovery....void my warranty but give me cwm lol
seriously tho, I am tired of waiting and if warranty is the hold up on breaking the boot so be it...bye bye warranty hello recovery.
thanks guys
mega

I agree completely. If it's too broken for me to fix it it's time for a replacement.

regarding warranty, keep in mind that when a phone is swapped under warranty, the device is sent back to ATT via delivery. The device is then scanned to make sure you are returning a device you initially claimed for.
The device is NEVER turned on. It is only checked for physical damage.
Think on the mass amounts of shipments received in one day at the warranty center. Do you k ow how much time and the many employees needed to actually achieve turning on each phone to see what is working and not?
And also your device gets sent back w/no parts..batteries..etc. that would mean they would first have to grab batteries and back covers to start the run down?
never in a million years. the packages
only get checked for device / claim confirmation & no physical damage thats it. it then gets thrown into a recycling bucket.
These phones costs barely nothing to the mobile carries. They make most of their money on services. I remember hearing from a exec at ATT a while back when the first GNOTE arrived that each device cost about 7-10 bux wholesale.
Any losses from warranties easily get passed on to subscribers quietly along the line.
The only concern about custom /warranty voids is when you exchange your device at a warranty service location in person. That is your real only risk of getting shot down. ATT has a few of these locations around the US.
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I'm pretty sure your warrenty becomes void when you root.. not when you load a custom rom or get custom recovery.
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They either have no margin, a small margin or lose money on phones. Thats why you are locked into a contract and $700 unlocked device costs $300 because it's subsidized. Prices drop as new devics come out and manufacturers run promotions based on volume. Carriers have to commit to a certain number of phones and when they suck (facebook phones) they get rid of them cheap too
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Root for Note 20 Ultra US Version ?/!

I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned at all on this forum, unless I'm reading it completely wrong.
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-20-ultra-root-us-unlocked-snapdragon-865/
Now, full disclosure, I haven't actually done this but it is very interesting. I haven't tried my device since the note 8, and is have to get more comfortable with knowing how to unroot before I attempt this. In addition to the details installing custom recovery, I'm just not ready I guess. I'm talking myself up though lol
What do you guys think?
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Didn't try it but glad to see there's an option for it now, even if it costs $150
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VICosPhi said:
Didn't try it but glad to see there's an option for it now, even if it costs $150
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Yes, forgot to mention that. It's posted on XDA's page, so I figured it was okay to share. Thanks for mentioning that detail!
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$150....[emoji1786]
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Yeah price is a little steep but will be worth it. I never use samsung pay so losing it is no big deal. Just hope there are some devs out there to cook up ROMs, kernels, etc!

Hey guys, I've been out of the loop since the Galaxt S2 lol... Is it a possibility to pull the unlocked/rooted image off of one phone and use it for others?

keller.jeff said:
Hey guys, I've been out of the loop since the Galaxt S2 lol... Is it a possibility to pull the unlocked/rooted image off of one phone and use it for others?
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You have to unlock your bootloader before doing anything. That's where the issue is

Interested in seeing the results for somebody

That's a bit too much for something you have to wait for someone to have the time to do it .

It comes from China and have to use teamviewer and what about a refund if it doesn't work? Think I'll just stay stock for the mean time, no telling what might get installed on your phone.

ggrant3876 said:
It comes from China and have to use teamviewer and what about a refund if it doesn't work? Think I'll just stay stock for the mean time, no telling what might get installed on your phone.
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Well, I already have WeChat installed so if they are gonna get me, they did long ago lol. Besides, if you root your phone this is a risk you're taking right off the bat. There's a reason Enterprises don't allow rooted devices to connect thru Microsoft/Exchange Activesync services.
Giving superuser access is a risk.
Edit: it also clearly states there is no refund if it doesn't work.
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themisterwilson said:
Well, I already have WeChat installed so if they are gonna get me, they did long ago lol. Besides, if you root your phone this is a risk you're taking right off the bat. There's a reason Enterprises don't allow rooted devices to connect thru Microsoft/Exchange Activesync services.
Giving superuser access is a risk.
Edit: it also clearly states there is no refund if it doesn't work.
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I know the risks of root been doing it for years, just think the risk out weights the advantages with China involved!

ggrant3876 said:
I know the risks of root been doing it for years, just think the risk out weights the advantages with China involved!
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Oh China involved lol. Gotcha
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keller.jeff said:
Hey guys, I've been out of the loop since the Galaxt S2 lol... Is it a possibility to pull the unlocked/rooted image off of one phone and use it for others?
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No the token is special to each device
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The guys doing it are legit. So all the nasty comments can go up the road. It's either pay it or don't. If you don't. Don't whine about it. Cause obviously you don't know

This method also works for the Canadian variants as well.
Personally I'd probably stay stock but I can see many take advantage
of this method to Root their smartphones.

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No the token is special to each device
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The guys doing it are legit. So all the nasty comments can go up the road. It's either pay it or don't. If you don't. Don't whine about it. Cause obviously you don't know
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Ye sir, I agree with this sentiment. Please don't take my sarcastic response as an insult to China. It's 100% the opposite. More skeptical of a product/service purely because it originates in China? What a joke.
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themisterwilson said:
Ye sir, I agree with this sentiment. Please don't take my sarcastic response as an insult to China. It's 100% the opposite. More skeptical of a product/service purely because it originates in China? What a joke.
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Most of them do originate in China lot of people. Lot of good developers
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samteeee said:
This method also works for the Canadian variants as well.
Personally I'd probably stay stock but I can see many take advantage
of this method to Root their smartphones.
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But the question in play is development. You pay and then no development hurts too. Thats why I try to stick it with known models if at all possible

i rooted my U model
will cost you 125
that's not something you'd spread on xda

MlM1c said:
More then likely somebody will copy it and either charge money as well or just release it to the general population. Stuff leaks happens all the time and seeing that they are making what seems to be good money gives even more attraction to those skilled enough to copy it.
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I suppose my feelings about paying are: if I want to root bad enough, I'm gonna want it $125 bad. In the scheme of things, is not a huge amount. Not if you can afford a $1300 smartphone, or even ~$800 with trade in.
And yes, it's also worth supporting development.
Edit: also agree, there is a lot going on in China. I've worked with colleagues in China and have friends there. Is a different culture there, there's so much more job competition than here. There's not room for half-assed efforts.
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themisterwilson said:
Well, I already have WeChat installed so if they are gonna get me, they did long ago lol. Besides, if you root your phone this is a risk you're taking right off the bat. There's a reason Enterprises don't allow rooted devices to connect thru Microsoft/Exchange Activesync services.
Giving superuser access is a risk.
Edit: it also clearly states there is no refund if it doesn't work.
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I had that issue but can hide in magisk to make it work