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Not sure if I am alone on this and I am sure I will probably get a lot of heat. Our 7.7 has been out close to a year now (correct me if I am wrong) and I am a bit sad that there isn't much development on this tab. I keep an eye on the development section and so far all there is is the following: custom rom based on ICS, straight CM9, straight CM10, Nexus 7 based on CM10, Paranoid based on CM10 and one other one and guess what based on CM10. So that's 2 based on ICS and 4 based on JB but 5 of them are CM builds. To some people 6 custom roms seem to be a good thing but in reality there are only 2. I don't count all the different flavors of CM as an individual rom because it's the basic rom and devs just put their own spin on it. Now I am not putting down any of the CM team and I know CM is a very popular rom but why isn't anyone else coming up a JB rom that is NOT based on CM. I have tried 3 different versions of the CM flavor ROMS and there are many issues. Now I have addressed those issues in their respective threads and have been told many times before that this is just how CM has built and either I use it or not, that's all good and no problem, but not happy about it at the same time.
I would just like for someone to come out with a JB rom that is NOT based on any CM build as too keep all functions working PROPERLY. Maybe the lack of development is because there aren't many 7.7 units available in the USA (I am not counting the Verizon model as the majority are all imports) and their current price is a big drawback. Now that the Nexus 7 will be released with 3G and will probably be more affordable than our 7.7 I predict that development will surely die out and people will jump straight to the Nexus 7 with 3G and us current owners will be left on the dark unless and official JB update is released (I doubt it).
This is my rant and my opinion please respect it, once again I am not here to disrespect anyone and applaud your support for this device even if there isn't much.
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adinis78 said:
Not sure if I am alone on this and I am sure I will probably get a lot of heat. Our 7.7 has been out close to a year now (correct me if I am wrong) and I am a bit sad that there isn't much development on this tab. I keep an eye on the development section and so far all there is is the following: custom rom based on ICS, straight CM9, straight CM10, Nexus 7 based on CM10, Paranoid based on CM10 and one other one and guess what based on CM10. So that's 2 based on ICS and 4 based on JB but 5 of them are CM builds. To some people 6 custom roms seem to be a good thing but in reality there are only 2. I don't count all the different flavors of CM as an individual rom because it's the basic rom and devs just put their own spin on it. Now I am not putting down any of the CM team and I know CM is a very popular rom but why isn't anyone else coming up a JB rom that is NOT based on CM. I have tried 3 different versions of the CM flavor ROMS and there are many issues. Now I have addressed those issues in their respective threads and have been told many times before that this is just how CM has built and either I use it or not, that's all good and no problem, but not happy about it at the same time.
I would just like for someone to come out with a JB rom that is NOT based on any CM build as too keep all functions working PROPERLY. Maybe the lack of development is because there aren't many 7.7 units available in the USA (I am not counting the Verizon model as the majority are all imports) and their current price is a big drawback. Now that the Nexus 7 will be released with 3G and will probably be more affordable than our 7.7 I predict that development will surely die out and people will jump straight to the Nexus 7 with 3G and us current owners will be left on the dark unless and official JB update is released (I doubt it).
This is my rant and my opinion please respect it, once again I am not here to disrespect anyone and applaud your support for this device even if there isn't much.
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It could be worse, you could own the SCH-i815.
You have to understand that Samsung has to first release an official jellybean update. As you can see all of the non cm ICS roms were done after the official ICS update.
Gilbot said:
It could be worse, you could own the SCH-i815.
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I feel for them
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You have to understand that Samsung has to first release an official jellybean update. As you can see all of the non cm ICS roms were done after the official ICS update.
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I don't seem them releasing an update now with Nexus 7 3G-wifi coming out soon, everybody will jump on it just as they have with wifi Nexus 7
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Plus you throw in the new kindle fire 8.9" with a full HD 1920x1200 screen that will have data capabilities as well at very competitive prices.
Love my nexus 7, i admit. But I always come back to my 7.7. The screen is just too much eye candy to not be utilized.
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Plus you throw in the new kindle fire 8.9" with a full HD 1920x1200 screen that will have data capabilities as well at very competitive prices.
Love my nexus 7, i admit. But I always come back to my 7.7. The screen is just too much eye candy to not be utilized.
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True enough.
But when all is said and done.....even stock ROM ICS gives us a damned great tab. We can always hope (delusionally perhaps) Samsung will release a JB update.....but even if not, I quite look forward to years of enjoyment with my 7.7.
i agree, OP. the US patent trial might have killed this tablet. it killed it in europe. does anybody know if they're even still in production after all the injunctions?
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i agree, OP. the US patent trial might have killed this tablet. it killed it in europe. does anybody know if they're even still in production after all the injunctions?
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In Romania they removed it from the site, and also no support given to it.
Please endorsement this petition to send to Samsung to update the Galaxy S Plus to Jelly Bean.
change[point]org/%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8/samsung-electronics-please-update-samsung-galaxy-s-plus-i9001-to-android-4-1-jelly-bean
+1 from russia
P.S. Shift, I think it won't help us(galaxy s had a petition). And i have one suggestion. You can ask galaxy w users for petition
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Please endorsement this petition to send to Samsung to update the Galaxy S Plus to Jelly Bean.
change[point]org/%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8/samsung-electronics-please-update-samsung-galaxy-s-plus-i9001-to-android-4-1-jelly-bean
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No chance mate.
Samsung won`t make updates to such "old" phones....
I'm agree with Lelex45, Samsung has forgotten this device... But there are a lot of "unofficial" very good rom here
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Unfortunaly this won't happen. However like occ hio said, there are plenty of good custom roms. I own my i9001 now for 13 months, only the first couple of months of them I ran stock gingerbread from samsung. Never regretted that I turned to custom roms.
i think the custom roms that you can find here are a great solution
Yeah, get over it - JB custom ROMs are now for daily use IMHO, or you can just wait for the 3.0 kernel + few bugs fixed and it'll be close to perfection Cheers
Who cares whether they release it or not? Obviously the OP, but i doubt many others. We got the files, and the community. There's lots of custom ROMs that are better anyway..
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There are less roms than every body always says there are. For the most interesting android version (4.1) there's cm10, and variations based on that cm10 rom. If you find bugs in cm10 that annoy you, there is no use switching to an other rom.
I gave up the hope of an official update from samsung, but it would be nice if they could provide up to date drivers. But I really can't image they suddenly changed their attitude. Samsung is a hardware manufacturer and they see very little interest in software (quite common in Asia. People invest in stuff you can hold in your hands, not virtual stuff like software). But on the other hand, I gave up buying samsung stuff so can't really expect them to do anything for me
There really no chance for this petition!
They won't do it, they are so mean about new roms old devices or to it's modifications: s
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I remember that a time ago in a German forum people send many requests for ics to Samsung like a petition but it had no use. I think they said the device wouldn't be popular enough but not sure...
I think Samsung won't release JB for I9001 too. But give the best support to CM10 team!
If Samsung would release JB for such "old" phones, they couldn't sell so much oft their new devices. Anyway, i'm using cm 10 on my S-Plus, and in really can say it's much smoother than my wifes S3 mini.
no chance for this to succeed
We have awesome ROMs by our great devs. Do we need official ROMs now?
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We have awesome ROMs by our great devs. Do we need official ROMs now?
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probly Samsung would get new libs for the GPU from Quallcom. That could be a great improvement to the performence. The current libs are buggy.
not possible
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I'm using Custom Roms since 3 months and i love it. I think we don't need Samsung for giving us Jelly Bean, cause there are much more features for performance and style in our great Custom Roms.
So thank's our great developers for making this possible for us.:good::good::good:
Odp: Official update Samsung Galaxy S Plus to Jelly bean.
Impossible Samsung never take us new software 4.1.2 we have to use only custom roms
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Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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take a look at i9300 sgs3 development section,
then come back here with your findings
If it's anything like the Note 2 you will loss any Samsung tweaks if you go with a non-touchwiz Rom. Even GPS and bluetooth is a little hairy on Aosp or cyanogenmod Roms. But each phone/team working on the Rom is different. I'm actually sticking with a custom touchwiz Rom because I need the reliability for a business trip this upcoming week.
And it will be extreme luck if the IR sensor works without Samsung's framework. The IR port is the one thing I've been dying for to make a come back. I would actually pay $20 for a fully programmable IR app that has the same functionality of one of those expensive Logitech models.
The development scene for Samsung phones has been huge and vibrant. Samsung is nice about keeping things unlocked and releasing source code, and while it may take time for AOSP/CM/AOKP ROM's to be fully functional and stable the S4 will have plenty of custom ROM's in its future.
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The development scene for Samsung phones has been huge and vibrant. Samsung is nice about keeping things unlocked and releasing source code, and while it may take time for AOSP/CM/AOKP ROM's to be fully functional and stable the S4 will have plenty of custom ROM's in its future.
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I have no doubt that the S4 will get AOSP/CM/AOKP roms but the OP question was about the sensors. You got temp sensor, IR sensor, hover with finger sensor, and some of the camera tweaks. I don't think those Roms will have the sensor fully functionals. That's the issue I have right now on my Note 2. I love the cleanness of a stock Android Rom but I miss it when a note automatically pops up when the s-pen is removed. And battery life on touchwiz Roms appear to be better. These are choices we're going to have to make.
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...I miss it when a note automatically pops up when the s-pen is removed...
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that entirely part of the launcher and TouchWiz apps rather than the ROM?
Piaband said:
Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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I assure you it will be huge and vibrant, for now....
Wait 1 year later.
S3 & Note 2 users will now experience what S2 and Note users experienced for the past year. Total nightmare and hell.
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I have no doubt that the S4 will get AOSP/CM/AOKP roms but the OP question was about the sensors. You got temp sensor, IR sensor, hover with finger sensor, and some of the camera tweaks. I don't think those Roms will have the sensor fully functionals. That's the issue I have right now on my Note 2. I love the cleanness of a stock Android Rom but I miss it when a note automatically pops up when the s-pen is removed. And battery life on touchwiz Roms appear to be better. These are choices we're going to have to make.
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You hit the nail on the head my friend. I am looking to run stock android jelly bean on my next device.
I had a nexus s for my first android phone and I took it for granted how amazingly easy it was to flash not only roms but radios, kernels, basically anything. And I just love stock android.
I am now on an HTC rezound. While I do like it, I sorely miss stock android and flashing away at will. Already had quite a few flashing mishaps.
If I am forced to run touchwiz to use all these new features, then I'm not going to pay attention to the features when choosing my next device.
This wouldn't even be an issue if the LG nexus was released on Verizon.
Ugh, looks like I'm still waiting.
Rezound, s-off, loving it.
Livebyte said:
I assure you it will be huge and vibrant, for now....
Wait 1 year later.
S3 & Note 2 users will now experience what S2 and Note users experienced for the past year. Total nightmare and hell.
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Explain?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that entirely part of the launcher and TouchWiz apps rather than the ROM?
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Actually it depends on the feature.. Some of the features see baked into the framework apk others have individual apps... None of them are launcher dependent.. However all of these together make a ROM.. So I don't know you are referring to??
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Explain?
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He means all the devs will fly in droves to the new flagship device leaving the flagship devices of last year stranded..
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Explain?
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Most experienced developers are leaving Samsung for manufacturers that don't treat them like **** (see the Superbrick fiasco), leaving only the "me-too" smali-hack-kangs and a very small number of experienced competent developers like Andrei.
Quality, not quantity - most of the stuff in the I9100 and I9300 forums is crap, people who took a Touchwizz base, themed it, made some build.prop hacks, and called it a whole new firmware package. They're lucky in that Touchwizz is so bad that it's easy to improve upon it.
Compare to, for example, the Xperia T where there are 5-10 or more developers all contributing as a team to something that only has two threads (One for CM10, one for CM10.1) There aren't many people working with Sony stock firmwares because, honestly, it's REALLY hard to improve upon them because they're so good to begin with. Most of the few things that can be improved are achievable with simple TiBu freezes, no smali hacking required.
I think it'll make AOSP (CM/AOKP) hard to develop but there super people! I'm sure they'll figure it out and help!
However Touchwiz ROM's could be pulled and edited! We won't lose any features/it won't be hard.
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I think it'll make AOSP (CM/AOKP) hard to develop but there super people! I'm sure they'll figure it out and help!
However Touchwiz ROM's could be pulled and edited! We won't lose any features/it won't be hard.
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Project Butter in Exynos 4210 devices (eg. Note & S2) is still broken until today and will never be solved.
A technically inferior Galaxy Nexus is superior to the Note. Take that for a change.
You have no idea how frustrated and angry are we people targeting Samsung in the Note & S2 forums.
I swore never to buy anymore Exynos devices after this fiasco.
Livebyte said:
Project Butter in Exynos 4210 devices (eg. Note & S2) is still broken until today and will never be solved.
A technically inferior Galaxy Nexus is superior to the Note. Take that for a change.
You have no idea how frustrated and angry are we people targeting Samsung in the Note & S2 forums.
I swore never to buy anymore Exynos devices after this fiasco.
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And the S3 community, count it in. We're fed up with all those broken promises too.
Piaband said:
Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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Only for developers that want to wipe Samsung off the phone. Which I don't understand since most of the new hardware features require drivers Samsung rightfully will not release. For the longest time and to this day you could not get the FM radio to work on CM without buying a $10 Spirit radio app.
I'm sure there will be plenty of developers that will develop deoxed custom ROMs and great kernels with tweaks OCing etc. . Omega already to jump in. The only custom ROM's I've ever used were that of STOCK ROM development where features could be enhanced and drivers would not be a problem. CM always seems to have something missing or not working.
Why buy a Samsung device and then wipe it clean of all the great features? Just buy a Nexus 4
That said. I don't mind running an ASOP ROM on my Nexus 7 I will be glad to get rid of when Samsung releases the 6.5" Note 3.
For many a stock base is good enough with a custom launcher. This is a very very small community. I know at least 12 people with an S 3and 6 with Notes. None of them even want their phones rooted.
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The real question I have is.. If the UK and the US get the quad core processor, Which device would have more developers....Exynos or Snapdragon?
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Phoneguy589 said:
The real question I have is.. If the UK and the US get the quad core processor, Which device would have more developers....Exynos or Snapdragon?
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Snapdragon always gets more aosp... So i assume more serious devs that are still in board will get Qualcomm
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.
Piaband said:
Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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I think GS4 & Note3 development will be pretty similar to GS2, Note, GS3 and Note2.
AFAIK, for example, the AOSP based ROMs don't really support the S-Pen on the Notes, but that's more app specific.
Cameras have long been, and will likely continue to be a problem. Video capture rates may be lower, features like both cameras, sound in pictures, smart scroll may not be supportable.
As always, for stock features, there will be stock based ROMs. Take your choice, features or AOSP based.
As with all the other Galaxy S class devices, there will be two main variants: International Exynos Octa & US/LTE/Qualcomm. ROMs, XDA forum sections and many issues will be different for each.
I predict that many ROM devs will continue to complain about the lack of Exynos info and source code. But they will develop, as best they can. I'd like to see Samsung open up more, Sony and Qualcomm are better at open-ness.
And there will be at least one other group for the Qualcomm variants; I'd hope the US carrier variants will all be able to run the same ROMs, but previous experience is different I guess.
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For the longest time and to this day you could not get the FM radio to work on CM without buying a $10 Spirit radio app.
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1st post of my thread has links to free versions, as well as free alphas of Spirit2, with digital audio features for Galaxy S class devices.
I hope the proposed Android FM API will see success and provide more options.
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Snapdragon always gets more aosp... So i assume more serious devs that are still in board will get Qualcomm
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.
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Only reason I ask is that the i9300 get newer software updates vs the 8747 or t999. I was recently dead set on getting the i9500 but now it well be based more on development. The the ir blaster won't work km cm or aosp as it doesn't work on the note 10.1...Only touch wiz. Not really a big deal to me but I was Curtis as th where most devs are from that usually get the international ones. LTE to me means is reach my data cap sooner so hsdpa+ is plenty quick got me.
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Entropy512 said:
Most experienced developers are leaving Samsung for manufacturers that don't treat them like **** (see the Superbrick fiasco), leaving only the "me-too" smali-hack-kangs and a very small number of experienced competent developers like Andrei.
Quality, not quantity - most of the stuff in the I9100 and I9300 forums is crap, people who took a Touchwizz base, themed it, made some build.prop hacks, and called it a whole new firmware package. They're lucky in that Touchwizz is so bad that it's easy to improve upon it.
Compare to, for example, the Xperia T where there are 5-10 or more developers all contributing as a team to something that only has two threads (One for CM10, one for CM10.1) There aren't many people working with Sony stock firmwares because, honestly, it's REALLY hard to improve upon them because they're so good to begin with. Most of the few things that can be improved are achievable with simple TiBu freezes, no smali hacking required.
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Yeah, I guess that's just for exynos based galaxy devices. My US S2 Variant has several 4.2.2 aosp roms. Aokp, cm10.1, pac, slim, rootbox etc. I assume the USA s4 will be similar.
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*** EDIT ***
Aparently a list of devices that will recieve 4.2.2 has just been leaked and Galaxy S2 is among them. Hurray!!
You can take a look at the list here: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/18...roid-5-0-for-the-galaxy-s-iii-galaxy-note-ii/
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So guys, with the announcement of Galaxy S4 all I wanted to see was how Samsung would implement Touchwiz on Android 4.2.2.
I'm probably one of the few around here who actually like Touchwiz, hahahahaha.
So I started watching a bunch of Hands-on videos of Galaxy S4 and noticed a few design changes that pleased me a lot.
1- Configuration screen is now divided into 4 tabs. Much more organized than stock Android.
2- Notification Bar now has the new button from Android 4.2.2 and Samsung used it to show all widgets (wifi, gps, etc).
Five widgets still remain fixed for fast access and I don't know if they can be edited. Probably yes.
3- Lockscreen now has widgets as expected. But I noticed lots of Samsung widgets in there including a player widget for fast access to play/pause, etc.
It seems Samsung loved this new feature and used it really well (better than having CM 10.1 and it's exclusive CLocK widget xD).
4- Status Bar is now transparent. This is something lots of people use to mod here in XDA so all I can think is Samsung is listening to us or at least peaking at XDA sometimes to see what people are doing with their phones. This is actually pretty awesome
5- Lots and lots of new Camera modes! I believe some of them are actually possible to implement for Galaxy S2.
Others like double camera (back and front) might have hardware limitations.
6- Smart Play: a video you are watching will pause if you look away from the screen.
7- Smart Scroll: tilting the device and moving your eyes will scroll a page on the Web or in the Gallery.
Moving your hands in the air to do the same thing is not yet clear if it uses the front camera to recognize the action or one of the new screen sensors.
8- Lots of new apps. S Voice Drive, S Translator, S Choice, New ChatON, etc.
9- Air touch? This will probably never come but it's so cool
Anyway. Let's wait and see if Samsung plans to update Galaxy S2 one final time to give us some of these treats. What do you guys think? Sorry for any English mistakes. I'm writing from my phone. Also don't hesitate to highlight anything about the new Touchwiz I might have missed in this post
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don't wait for it.
Re: Touchwiz 6 and Android 4.2.1, will we get it?
That aint gona happen sadily.
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Re: Touchwiz 6 and Android 4.2.1, will we get it?
Not a chance in hell. Sam is done supporting us. I don't see a reason why they would continue supporting S2. Samsung is a commercial company and they want consumers buy their new products rather than supporting the old products for free.
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Re: Touchwiz 6 and Android 4.2.1, will we get it?
Besides they have given us support more than any other companies. Do you see another 2 year old phone getting 4.1.2? If you think of it, Samsung is good
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I have a feeling Samsung will surprise us all. 4.2.1 is still Jelly Bean and most probably the last Jelly Bean Google will ever release. So it would be good for Samsung to update its devices to the last Jelly Bean and call it a quit once and for all.
Re: Touchwiz 6 and Android 4.2.1, will we get it?
Many devices less powerful then us will get 4.2.2 like galaxy grand and SII+ then why not the original galaxy SII?
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The S2 is at the end of its life cycle...
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The S2 is at the end of its life cycle...
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i like how everyones complaining that this phone with its vast amount of support,roms and devs is at its end.
I moved over to here froman Atrix 4g tegra2 phone.
The only tegra 2 device to NOT get ics we had one leak that has many issues and no kernel
its so serious devs are manually uart and jtagging the device and building a kernel from scratch.
And here people are complaing that this phone with its 4.1.2 leaks etc have a phone thats at the ed of its support.
this phone got great support from samsung .
Re: Touchwiz 6 and Android 4.2.1, will we get it?
Very doubtful. Time for a Blackadder quote, "Stranger things have happened. That horse becoming Pope for one!"
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Re: Touchwiz 6 and Android 4.2.1, will we get it?
Think about it this way, the SGS2+ is still a brand new phone on the market, and how will people feel who have just purchased it?
Same with the S3 mini which has near identical specs to us, they will have to update it, its only a few months old, and the update isn't exactly a major one.
Samsung's official statement is that they will bring the new features to their 'flagship devices' I know for sure the Note II, SIII and Note 10.1 fall under this category, but I'm not sure what else.
Also, I fail to see how our S2 can't support at least half of the new features.
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Think about it this way, the SGS2+ is still a brand new phone on the market, and how will people feel who have just purchased it?
Same with the S3 mini which has near identical specs to us, they will have to update it, its only a few months old, and the update isn't exactly a major one.
Samsung's official statement is that they will bring the new features to their 'flagship devices' I know for sure the Note II, SIII and Note 10.1 fall under this category, but I'm not sure what else.
Also, I fail to see how our S2 can't support at least half of the new features.
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you cant complain because you have just purchased it. its replacement is about to be replaced. its been supported great in my opinion and i still love it.
We already got 2 updates, no way that Sammy will make 3rd one.
"From 2.3.6 to 4.0.4 to 4.1.2 to end with 4.2.2." Sammobile on Twitter.
Galaxy Note or Galaxy S2?
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Sammobile has proven in the past to know no carp...
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I consider most of those features mere gimmicks than things that are actually useful. Especially the things that use the camera, that'll probably scoop up a lot of battery life... And the status bar being transparent: if they would make it configurable, that would be a step ahead! If Samsung does bring 4.2 to the S II, that would definitely be a good thing. But like the others said, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Many not hardware related features in the
Samsung Galaxy S 4 are coming to the
Samsung Galaxy S III and S II
The Samsung Galaxy S III is still a top-notch
phone. According to Nick DiCarlo, Samsung's
vice president of portfolio planning, many of
the cool features that are in the Samsung
Galaxy S 4 will find their way to the Samsung
Galaxy S III.
"Anything that we can do that's not
dependent on hardware like infrared, we'll
definitely bring to all the flagship devices,"
DiCarlo said.
And that includes several of the new features
for the camera. Feature like Smart Scroll ,
Smart Pause, S Translator, S Health and the S
Voice Drive, to name just a few, eventually
join the Galaxy S III and perhaps even the
Samsung Galaxy S II as well.
Source: Phonearena, CNET
Re: Touchwiz 6 and Android 4.2.1, will we get it?
I surely hope so
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Re: Touchwiz 6 and Android 4.2.1, will we get it?
Devs will make it happen.
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I'm patiently waiting for my 8.0 to arrive. While doing this I've skimmed through the forums and such gleeming information. The 8.0 has been out since April / May and it seems compared to the other Note products that I've owned (all three of them) the ROM development and general traffic seems to be on the light side.
Not criticizing.
Is this because the devs are waiting for a source to drop? Is this because the majority feel that Samsung has made a solid product (hardware and software) that there is little to adjust or complain about the product (which is a good thing) Or the last not so good scenario that thus is not a very popular device because of odd size, design, price point, economy, cheaper alternatives, waiting for something better?
I don't want to do the usual "Dude, thus place is Dead! Why?" Lol.
I'm interested in what others who have been here longer feel about this.
Thanks.
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I just got my note 8.0 (international version n5100) few days ago. Although you are right there isn't much development going on. The problem is that most of the developers are in USA. The US version of the Note 8.0 (at&t) and the Canadian version have yet to have root. So that is why you don't see much activity around here. Once the At&t version can be modified. I would expect more developers to show up.
Best buy and such is just selling the WiFi version anyways sent they?
I guess that brings me to another question from what I've noticed: are people buying this mainly as a 3g device to use as a phablet? AFAIK mine will just be a WiFi only.
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Yes Best Buy is most likely selling the wifi version unless they made you sign a contract that is a safe bet.
There are a bunch of Note 8.0 which makes me believe we will most likely need another sub forum once the North American Note 8.0 have a development scene. Since they have slightly different hardware. earpiece removed etc.
Since the At&t model only have data no phone or SMS. Most people have either the LTE model or the wifi model. Only the wifi model has a development scene.
Custom roms would be nice for some fun but I'm very happy with stock rooted. It's a solid device.
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I'm all for custom roms....But, I like the stock rom very much. I chose the 5100 because it offers everything in one package. If I need to make a phone call, no problem. Send a text, I'm covered, plus wifi. Would loved to have had LTE but with T-Mobile 3G+ I don't feel rained on!! And yes I live in a refarmed area. For me, living in the U.S., the 5100 3G is the best option. In other countries that were offered LTE (voice+data) that would be the way to go.
The reason I go with Samsung in general is because I don't want to have to flash anything custom. Over the 5 years or so of owning Android, I've been through a lot of devices, and I can't begin to imagine how much time I've wasted flashing, restoring, backing up, etc, etc. There are more important things to life than customizing your gadgets. In short, I don't care whether this place is dead, active, or whether there is a single custom ROM or kernel out there for this device. Samsung provides a solid device that performs well, and they are about as up to date with updates as can be reasonably expected. I have no complaints.
Just as an aside, I've flashed many custom ROMs and kernels to my previous Galaxy S3. All of them made my performance and battery life far worse than stock, and most of them had serious issues with their themes.
That's maybe because you made poor choices on your Rom selections. It's definitely true there are nightmare roms out there.
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janjannsen99 said:
That's maybe because you made poor choices on your Rom selections. It's definitely true there are nightmare roms out there.
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No way man. I've always had the same issues with custom ROMs over the years. Stock has been the best since ICS hit. Most custom ROMs except the ones that are modified stock have issues.
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No way man. I've always had the same issues with custom ROMs over the years. Stock has been the best since ICS hit. Most custom ROMs except the ones that are modified stock have issues.
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Well I agree with that. As far as Samsung goes it is true that you're better off staying on something touchwiz based. This is true. All the CM and aosp stuff is plagued with problems. You're right about that. I actually like touch wiz ROMs especially for the note 2. Looks like the same with note 8. Once you lose the spen features you kinda lose the whole point of havin a Samsung device with spen. You're right
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Personally I just care about root because it opens up a lot of useful apps. Otherwise I haven't had issues with stock ROMs.
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I wish more no pc root options were available. Tried framaroot so I could install a few apps and small mods but haven't had any luck. I think stock rooted with small mods is best for the note. I had a transformer TF300T that I highly moded to get it to run at the speeds I now have on the note 8.0.
I think over time and with 4.2.2 or 4.3 the note 8.0 should see more in the development area.
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Rooting is always the first step for me and although custom roms are a handy shortcut there are many Xposed modules to help you to customise your device yourself.
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Thanks for opening this thread! The lack of custom Roms was one of the first things I recognised after buying the Note 8. I came over from a NExus 7 (2012) and as was stated here before, modding just took a lot of time from me. First it was fun to try out CM, AOKP Paranoidandroid etc. and these guys really have some good features. But I never kept a ROM longer than a few weeks because they were all horrible slow - still better than stock though. In the end I realized that it was the device itself that kept getting slower due to hardware issues and the custom ROMs just eased the problem because of the wipe I did every time. My phone is a HTC Evo 3d that also needs a lot of attention due to (in my opinion) horrible stock ROM.
Now after reading this thread and thinking about my experiences with the Note so far I have to admit I'm pretty happy with it. I Also don't care that it is still on 4.1 because 4.2 on the Nexus was just a pain with all the bugs and extra features were rare and useless for me. with 4.3 it seems to be the exact same story. So for now it's okay. Especially since I installed my favorite launcher after trying out TouchWIz
I just hope to see a good Android 5 ROM someday with S-Pen functions and so on, but that story isn't written yet
nickdollahz said:
There are a bunch of Note 8.0 which makes me believe we will most likely need another sub forum once the North American Note 8.0 have a development scene. Since they have slightly different hardware. earpiece removed etc.
Since the At&t model only have data no phone or SMS. Most people have either the LTE model or the wifi model. Only the wifi model has a development scene.
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So what are the differences between the n5100 and the i467?
telephony capability
LTE radio
ear speaker
ability to act as wifi hotspot
Anything other differences?
I like touchwiz. But I want cyanogenmod. I used cm on my s3 for more than a year.
I hope cm will be available for n5100 soon.
How are you guys liking the 8? I have the 10.1 wifi and I'm thinking of trading it for an 8 (wifi or AT&T LTE version)
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How are you guys liking the 8? I have the 10.1 wifi and I'm thinking of trading it for an 8 (wifi or AT&T LTE version)
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Start from the beginning of this thread for your answer.
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graffixnyc said:
How are you guys liking the 8? I have the 10.1 wifi and I'm thinking of trading it for an 8 (wifi or AT&T LTE version)
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its a fantastic device, man...my wife has a 10.1, and its nothing like this tablet; you can one hand this guy, much smoother, and I am running CM 10.2 on it now, and its fast and smooth...great for taking everywhere, and, its more "phone like" than any other tablet...not tons of developement, but there are a couple of nice TW roms, both 4.1.2 and 4.2, plus now with cm 10.1 and 10.2, there is something for everyone!
I have the wifi model, and its easy to set it up for VOIP and sms/mms...
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its a fantastic device, man...my wife has a 10.1, and its nothing like this tablet; you can one hand this guy, much smoother, and I am running CM 10.2 on it now, and its fast and smooth...great for taking everywhere, and, its more "phone like" than any other tablet...not tons of developement, but there are a couple of nice TW roms, both 4.1.2 and 4.2, plus now with cm 10.1 and 10.2, there is something for everyone!
I have the wifi model, and its easy to set it up for VOIP and sms/mms...
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Does the Spen work with the CM roms?
Steve