Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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take a look at i9300 sgs3 development section,
then come back here with your findings
If it's anything like the Note 2 you will loss any Samsung tweaks if you go with a non-touchwiz Rom. Even GPS and bluetooth is a little hairy on Aosp or cyanogenmod Roms. But each phone/team working on the Rom is different. I'm actually sticking with a custom touchwiz Rom because I need the reliability for a business trip this upcoming week.
And it will be extreme luck if the IR sensor works without Samsung's framework. The IR port is the one thing I've been dying for to make a come back. I would actually pay $20 for a fully programmable IR app that has the same functionality of one of those expensive Logitech models.
The development scene for Samsung phones has been huge and vibrant. Samsung is nice about keeping things unlocked and releasing source code, and while it may take time for AOSP/CM/AOKP ROM's to be fully functional and stable the S4 will have plenty of custom ROM's in its future.
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The development scene for Samsung phones has been huge and vibrant. Samsung is nice about keeping things unlocked and releasing source code, and while it may take time for AOSP/CM/AOKP ROM's to be fully functional and stable the S4 will have plenty of custom ROM's in its future.
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I have no doubt that the S4 will get AOSP/CM/AOKP roms but the OP question was about the sensors. You got temp sensor, IR sensor, hover with finger sensor, and some of the camera tweaks. I don't think those Roms will have the sensor fully functionals. That's the issue I have right now on my Note 2. I love the cleanness of a stock Android Rom but I miss it when a note automatically pops up when the s-pen is removed. And battery life on touchwiz Roms appear to be better. These are choices we're going to have to make.
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...I miss it when a note automatically pops up when the s-pen is removed...
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that entirely part of the launcher and TouchWiz apps rather than the ROM?
Piaband said:
Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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I assure you it will be huge and vibrant, for now....
Wait 1 year later.
S3 & Note 2 users will now experience what S2 and Note users experienced for the past year. Total nightmare and hell.
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I have no doubt that the S4 will get AOSP/CM/AOKP roms but the OP question was about the sensors. You got temp sensor, IR sensor, hover with finger sensor, and some of the camera tweaks. I don't think those Roms will have the sensor fully functionals. That's the issue I have right now on my Note 2. I love the cleanness of a stock Android Rom but I miss it when a note automatically pops up when the s-pen is removed. And battery life on touchwiz Roms appear to be better. These are choices we're going to have to make.
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You hit the nail on the head my friend. I am looking to run stock android jelly bean on my next device.
I had a nexus s for my first android phone and I took it for granted how amazingly easy it was to flash not only roms but radios, kernels, basically anything. And I just love stock android.
I am now on an HTC rezound. While I do like it, I sorely miss stock android and flashing away at will. Already had quite a few flashing mishaps.
If I am forced to run touchwiz to use all these new features, then I'm not going to pay attention to the features when choosing my next device.
This wouldn't even be an issue if the LG nexus was released on Verizon.
Ugh, looks like I'm still waiting.
Rezound, s-off, loving it.
Livebyte said:
I assure you it will be huge and vibrant, for now....
Wait 1 year later.
S3 & Note 2 users will now experience what S2 and Note users experienced for the past year. Total nightmare and hell.
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Explain?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that entirely part of the launcher and TouchWiz apps rather than the ROM?
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Actually it depends on the feature.. Some of the features see baked into the framework apk others have individual apps... None of them are launcher dependent.. However all of these together make a ROM.. So I don't know you are referring to??
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Explain?
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He means all the devs will fly in droves to the new flagship device leaving the flagship devices of last year stranded..
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Explain?
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Most experienced developers are leaving Samsung for manufacturers that don't treat them like **** (see the Superbrick fiasco), leaving only the "me-too" smali-hack-kangs and a very small number of experienced competent developers like Andrei.
Quality, not quantity - most of the stuff in the I9100 and I9300 forums is crap, people who took a Touchwizz base, themed it, made some build.prop hacks, and called it a whole new firmware package. They're lucky in that Touchwizz is so bad that it's easy to improve upon it.
Compare to, for example, the Xperia T where there are 5-10 or more developers all contributing as a team to something that only has two threads (One for CM10, one for CM10.1) There aren't many people working with Sony stock firmwares because, honestly, it's REALLY hard to improve upon them because they're so good to begin with. Most of the few things that can be improved are achievable with simple TiBu freezes, no smali hacking required.
I think it'll make AOSP (CM/AOKP) hard to develop but there super people! I'm sure they'll figure it out and help!
However Touchwiz ROM's could be pulled and edited! We won't lose any features/it won't be hard.
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I think it'll make AOSP (CM/AOKP) hard to develop but there super people! I'm sure they'll figure it out and help!
However Touchwiz ROM's could be pulled and edited! We won't lose any features/it won't be hard.
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Project Butter in Exynos 4210 devices (eg. Note & S2) is still broken until today and will never be solved.
A technically inferior Galaxy Nexus is superior to the Note. Take that for a change.
You have no idea how frustrated and angry are we people targeting Samsung in the Note & S2 forums.
I swore never to buy anymore Exynos devices after this fiasco.
Livebyte said:
Project Butter in Exynos 4210 devices (eg. Note & S2) is still broken until today and will never be solved.
A technically inferior Galaxy Nexus is superior to the Note. Take that for a change.
You have no idea how frustrated and angry are we people targeting Samsung in the Note & S2 forums.
I swore never to buy anymore Exynos devices after this fiasco.
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And the S3 community, count it in. We're fed up with all those broken promises too.
Piaband said:
Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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Only for developers that want to wipe Samsung off the phone. Which I don't understand since most of the new hardware features require drivers Samsung rightfully will not release. For the longest time and to this day you could not get the FM radio to work on CM without buying a $10 Spirit radio app.
I'm sure there will be plenty of developers that will develop deoxed custom ROMs and great kernels with tweaks OCing etc. . Omega already to jump in. The only custom ROM's I've ever used were that of STOCK ROM development where features could be enhanced and drivers would not be a problem. CM always seems to have something missing or not working.
Why buy a Samsung device and then wipe it clean of all the great features? Just buy a Nexus 4
That said. I don't mind running an ASOP ROM on my Nexus 7 I will be glad to get rid of when Samsung releases the 6.5" Note 3.
For many a stock base is good enough with a custom launcher. This is a very very small community. I know at least 12 people with an S 3and 6 with Notes. None of them even want their phones rooted.
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The real question I have is.. If the UK and the US get the quad core processor, Which device would have more developers....Exynos or Snapdragon?
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The real question I have is.. If the UK and the US get the quad core processor, Which device would have more developers....Exynos or Snapdragon?
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Snapdragon always gets more aosp... So i assume more serious devs that are still in board will get Qualcomm
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.
Piaband said:
Do all these new sensors and proprietary software (camera features, gesture features, etc) make it more difficult to develop customs ROMs for the gs4? Or will we just get ROMs that don't use all these new features and sensors
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I think GS4 & Note3 development will be pretty similar to GS2, Note, GS3 and Note2.
AFAIK, for example, the AOSP based ROMs don't really support the S-Pen on the Notes, but that's more app specific.
Cameras have long been, and will likely continue to be a problem. Video capture rates may be lower, features like both cameras, sound in pictures, smart scroll may not be supportable.
As always, for stock features, there will be stock based ROMs. Take your choice, features or AOSP based.
As with all the other Galaxy S class devices, there will be two main variants: International Exynos Octa & US/LTE/Qualcomm. ROMs, XDA forum sections and many issues will be different for each.
I predict that many ROM devs will continue to complain about the lack of Exynos info and source code. But they will develop, as best they can. I'd like to see Samsung open up more, Sony and Qualcomm are better at open-ness.
And there will be at least one other group for the Qualcomm variants; I'd hope the US carrier variants will all be able to run the same ROMs, but previous experience is different I guess.
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For the longest time and to this day you could not get the FM radio to work on CM without buying a $10 Spirit radio app.
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1st post of my thread has links to free versions, as well as free alphas of Spirit2, with digital audio features for Galaxy S class devices.
I hope the proposed Android FM API will see success and provide more options.
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Snapdragon always gets more aosp... So i assume more serious devs that are still in board will get Qualcomm
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.
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Only reason I ask is that the i9300 get newer software updates vs the 8747 or t999. I was recently dead set on getting the i9500 but now it well be based more on development. The the ir blaster won't work km cm or aosp as it doesn't work on the note 10.1...Only touch wiz. Not really a big deal to me but I was Curtis as th where most devs are from that usually get the international ones. LTE to me means is reach my data cap sooner so hsdpa+ is plenty quick got me.
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Most experienced developers are leaving Samsung for manufacturers that don't treat them like **** (see the Superbrick fiasco), leaving only the "me-too" smali-hack-kangs and a very small number of experienced competent developers like Andrei.
Quality, not quantity - most of the stuff in the I9100 and I9300 forums is crap, people who took a Touchwizz base, themed it, made some build.prop hacks, and called it a whole new firmware package. They're lucky in that Touchwizz is so bad that it's easy to improve upon it.
Compare to, for example, the Xperia T where there are 5-10 or more developers all contributing as a team to something that only has two threads (One for CM10, one for CM10.1) There aren't many people working with Sony stock firmwares because, honestly, it's REALLY hard to improve upon them because they're so good to begin with. Most of the few things that can be improved are achievable with simple TiBu freezes, no smali hacking required.
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Yeah, I guess that's just for exynos based galaxy devices. My US S2 Variant has several 4.2.2 aosp roms. Aokp, cm10.1, pac, slim, rootbox etc. I assume the USA s4 will be similar.
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Well to be straight on point i dont think we even have as mush as development as the previous Galaxy S1 . Just look at their android development thread and on the first page itself you can find 3 ICS roms . Two of them usable for daily driver , one is CM9 which is still buggy (So is ours ), I mean to say that we are dependent only on the CM9 team for the ICS and we dont have anyother dev to do that for us .
Your views ?
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Well to be straight on point i dont think we even have as mush as development as the previous Galaxy S1 . Just look at their android development thread and on the first page itself you can find 3 ICS roms . Two of them usable for daily driver , one is CM9 which is still buggy (So is ours ), I mean to say that we are dependent only on the CM9 team for the ICS and we dont have anyother dev to do that for us .
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simple reasong
samsung galaxy s2 is a perfec phone with perfect firmware.
reason ppl coming here is to change the looks and play around with their perfect phone when there is nothing else to do.
the reason for no ics is because ICS is still buggy on its own so there is no point making roms untill google fixes the base.
If you desporately want more ICS development, then get developing.
If I had the brains to do, I would do. But I don't, so I can't.
Its pretty hard to develop anything without code. They work with what they have and if what they have is crappy, so yeah.
The SGS1 is similar (or almost exactly the same) as the Nexus S so since source is out for that they just took some stuff there and used it on the SGS1. Makes it much easier. We don't have a phone similar to ours that we can borrow bits and pieces from. They tried that with the Galaxy 7.0 Tab Plus but didn't work out so well.
Actually this is the first Smartphone where I don´t feel the need to change much. It´s already damn good.
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simple reasong
samsung galaxy s2 is a perfec phone with perfect firmware.
reason ppl coming here is to change the looks and play around with their perfect phone when there is nothing else to do.
the reason for no ics is because ICS is still buggy on its own so there is no point making roms untill google fixes the base.
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ICS is still buggy? I had daily drivers ics Roms on my nexus s backup in october!
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Same here best phone ive ever had so far, only things needed to change
where optical and removed the unneeded apps.
ICS seems nice once it's stable and bugfree untill then........
Not sure I would agree.
I am running the Simplistic ICS ROM RC3 as my daily driver. Everything is super smooth from my limited experience. Granted, these are based on Sammy leaks but it beats the deadlock I saw over on the RAZR forum.
Pretty happy overall.
Very happy with my current rom, so yes I am happy overall with development
Nothing really I would change. Even with ics out, I prefer the majority of stuff touchwiz has. Simple tweaking is pretty much it.
Common guys i think ur not getting me i mean to say that we have less developers
I think it's because the original Galaxy S is older and developers have more experience with the hardware. For example it took almost a year before Cyanogengenmod was available for the Galaxy S.
I have to agree with the OP. Seeing as a galaxy s2 is such a popular phone u wuld expect more aosp roms for ics :L
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I think it's because the original Galaxy S is older and developers have more experience with the hardware. For example it took almost a year before Cyanogengenmod was available for the Galaxy S.
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Damn and they got ICS so easily ?
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I think it's because the original Galaxy S is older and developers have more experience with the hardware. For example it took almost a year before Cyanogengenmod was available for the Galaxy S.
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I tend to agree, the Original Galaxy is more established.
The trouble is, the S2 is sandwiched between the Galaxy S, and The upcoming S3. (Stuck between a rock and a hard place)
A lot of Devs and Users will no doubt be waiting to upgrade to the S3 upon launch, and maybe leave the S2 in the shadow somewhat.
Also unfortunately I would imagine a lot of Developers are staying away, considering some of the Flaming that happens on here.
We shall see. But Overall I'm more than satisfied with the Development.
Regards
Judging the level of development of a device just based on ICS is utterly stupid - did you look at all at the Gingerbread development that happened on this phone?
ICS for the original Galaxy S is a FLUKE. It's almost unheard of for an AOSP bringup to succeed on a higher version of Android than what is released for the phone due to lack of compatible binary blobs for vendor-proprietary parts.
The Galaxy S is lucky and VERY unusual - it has a high number of hardware similarities with the Nexus S, which is by its definition, a phone that has as many components open-sourced as possible. As a result, much of the Nexus S source code was adaptable to the Galaxy S as part of the CM7 bringup process.
The I9100 doesn't have this hardware commonality with a Nexus device. The RIL architecture and interfaces are completely different, the GPU is completely different, etc.
Exactly what I was going to mention. Usually porting or developing on phones is easier when someone else with similar hardware has done it before. You just borrow their work and adapt it. The Galaxy S2 doesn't share its hardware with many other phones. Hell, the whole Galaxy S2 line is super fragmented anyway! You have Tegra, omap, Exynos, different cameras, different specs alltogether.
If you just think of the international version... We're pretty much set apart and in the dark with all the proprietary code that the phone has. If you want a quick development path for your phone, you'll need a phone which has generic hardware or fully opensource code... Which is far from being this phone's case sadly.
Of course a lot of the SGS 1 roms where just cut and paste jobs .
Rom +Theme A then Rom + Theme B does not make two roms .
I am more than happy and the answer has always been you want more roms donate a phone to a dev instead of expecting them to pay for your flashing habit .
jje
It must have something to do with what can be achieved; with the exception of new releases from Google the only areas of interest really are storage space and speed. Both of which are pretty good as stock on the S2 where as development for the Desire was huge as it could be faster and, as stock, had a lack of storage space.
Even if you didn't like the look of TouchWiz you could choose a new launcher rather than rooting and flashing new ROMs.
if you want a regular updates and more development then maybe the phone for you is the galaxy nexus. pure google phone and a phone to get updates straight from the Google itself. I have not gone into the forums over there but i am pretty sure you have proper roms coming out through your ears...And i mean roms probably making that phone even better than it already is..and as being so new still the development for that can only get better...
The same for the S2. once the source code is released then you will see roms coming out and development will for sure will be on the high again and you see proper ICS roms coming left right and center...So be happy with what we have here and do more tweaking to get the max out of the phone instead of wondering if the development is slow or not..
This is the unofficial thread to find the list of developers for the Samsung Galaxy Note II.
If you are a developer and or ROM maker/cooker would like to confirm that you are going to dev on this device please send me a pm, and I will add you to the list. In past experiences these types of threads have shown to be very helpful to build dev support for a device, and also to help people decide on a device.
What, actually is the list for?
Basically its for people and devs to see all the dev support the device will have. This sometimes is the deciding factor for getting a phone. If there's huge dev support more people will come. This makes it easier for people to find information on what devs will be supporting the note 2.
To pm me and get added to the list Click Here.
Let's make this Galaxy Note II community awesome!
Confirmed Developers
1.Utacka
2.thering1975
3.DakiX
4.::indie::
5.m3dd0g
6.Crash 1976
7.g.lewarne
8.toxicthunder
9.awesomehacker
10.KashaMalaga
11.-Viperboy-
12.lennyuk
13.Dexter_nlb
14.DocRambone
15.imilka
16.f3w1n
17.kristofpetho
18.mike1986.
19.Stavr0s91i
20.wanam
21.xator91
22.Beukhof1
23.ptmr3
24.Anas M.I
25.cpu999
26.AndreiLux
27.Chainfire
28.Patrics83
29.Chenglu
30.bigbiff
Hi,
Thanks for starting this thread. I just want to ask "Do you think there be a lot of development for this phone?" Particularly for Note II, in general for future Samsung phones.
I just finished watching this video here or here and I just heard about some developers leaving Samsung altogether? Samsung locking bootloaders? Samsung getting too big for their own ego?
I currently own the Int'l N7000 and I found the development to be good for what I want. I didn't check out the i717 thread but I assume they are fair.
I'm not really experienced in rooting but I found Samsung Note to be fairly straight forward. I recently rooted an HTC Amaze 4G and the numerous steps plus the lack of info made me never to buy an HTC phone (even if I do like the HTC One X, my friend has the North American version and he said development is low there).
This is one reason why I'm holding out on the Note II until Feb 2013, maybe even Sept 2013 (in case Note 3) comes out because I want to see how the development plays out.
I know the phone just came out, but I assumed International Note development should be all hunky dory but I never know. Makes me not want to switch devices. I had an Int'l Galaxy S2 previously and development for that is great!
I hear Sony development is awesome. But then, I think I'll just go get a Nexus for ease of development (but the screen is so small!)
What do you guys think?
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1.Utacka
2.thering1975
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5........
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thanks leafsacc, I wasn't aware of this until now. I'm still not sure what's going on but I assumed there would be a way around a bootloader, as coders always find a way :highfive:
but reading the below, says it could have been verizon which was the cause of the bootloader, not samsung. so why is xdadevtv directing his video to samsung? is it because no open source was given for the s3? has it still not been released? will it be? anyone care to sum it up for some of us who aren't in the know? :>
Based on Samsung’s track record of always shipping devices with unlocked bootloaders, we can all safely deduce that Verizon is the one to blame here.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-unlocked/
For starters cm will not support n7100 if samsung dont change their ways. atleast the current dev team in cm will not support newer samsung exynos devices. i9300/n80xx was the last. Only way to get n7100 supported is if samsung cooperate or a new dev join cm dev team.
Without cm support i cannot do my paranoidandroid from source as I do with n7000. Time will tell if some new dev join cm samsung team or samsung get their act together. Dont look good though.
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For starters cm will not support n7100 if samsung dont change their ways. atleast the current dev team in cm will not support newer samsung exynos devices. i9300/n80xx was the last. Only way to get n7100 supported is if samsung cooperate or a new dev join cm dev team.
Without cm support i cannot do my paranoidandroid from source as I do with n7000. Time will tell if some new dev join cm samsung team or samsung get their act together. Dont look good though.
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Whoops not good news :crying: i need also sources...
Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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You still need one of the dev maintaining exynos devices to buy n7100 and then maintaining it... we can hope for someone to step up but its their freetime and money. Entropy512 told me he would be buying at&t version which is nearly identical if samsung would change their behavior. All we can do for now is to sit and wait...
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Hi guys, my ROM is finally finished and now uploaded at 89%.
I need a tester! My Note 2 has not arrived yet
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You forgot chainfire..
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This is a great thread. I hope more chefs will chime in.
I am considering a Note II but it is absolutely vital that CM is developed for it, together with Paranoid Android. Especially since Key Lime Pie (CM11?) is be around the corner.
I also think it is important with AOSP/AOKP development for it.
So I hope the issue will be sorted during this month. If not, I am afraid that I have to consider a different game plan.
Buying a device without proper developer support is a no go for me.
For everyone woundering about my sources here is a statement from Entropy512:
Entropy512 said:
Not likely to happen. If CM comes to the Note 2, it will only be if a new maintainer steps up.
Most of the current Exynos maintainer team (myself, espenfjo, codeworkx) and others have all decided that our current devices will be our last non-Nexus Exynos devices. I'm not sure about xplodwild, but I have a feeling he's highly unlikely to take up another Haxxinos with the rest of us gone and given his prior experiences with it.
If Samsung changes their attitude towards developers, this might change, but their attitude lately (zero documentation, zero platform source code, a trend towards bootloader locking - Only the Verizon S3 has a locked bootloader now, but Samsung has had the infrastructure in place since the S2 and they are constantly adding more checks) has led to the current Exynos maintainer team deciding that enough is enough. I don't think any of us are going to do anything to make Samsung's Exynos devices more attractive to any particular market segment until they provide assistance (in the form of technical documentation and source code) in return. I don't know about the others, but if they offer me a free device I'll say no - I refuse to participate in a PR stunt like the I9100 donations were.
Pretty much the only way I'll go back is if I see reference platform source that is up to the same standards as CAF and omapzoom, or they actually start providing real documentation and source code for the devices I'm currently working with.
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Thanks entwicklun,
I Googled "verizon locked bootloader samsung galaxy note" and from what I understand that it was Verizon's request to lock the bootloader. Not sure what I would do if I was Samsung but my guess is, if it helps sell more phones on Verizon then lock the boot loader. Money talks, right?
But then I'm hearing news about Samsung not giving developers this and that, just like the example below.
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Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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And I also need a phone that will have Paranoid Android (and the odd CM here and there), but it must also a 5" phablet. I guess there is nothing wrong with my current Note, but again by searching on Google there's a possibility that the "next big thing" might be the HTC Google Nexus X+. If that has an expansion card slot, that's it, I'm not getting the Note 2.
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This is a great thread. I hope more chefs will chime in.
I am considering a Note II but it is absolutely vital that CM is developed for it, together with Paranoid Android. Especially since Key Lime Pie (CM11?) is be around the corner.
I also think it is important with AOSP/AOKP development for it.
So I hope the issue will be sorted during this month. If not, I am afraid that I have to consider a different game plan.
Buying a device without proper developer support is a no go for me.
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Thanks for all the work the dev's put in. I'm just saying, my next phone is where the developers are. Samsung doesn't own us. :laugh:
I'll be here when I get my note2 in December
For those that don't know, TW ROM, aokp and multi booting kernel (or at least 2 sesperate kernels )
Myself and utaka could probably come up with a aosp supporting kernel for the device if official CM does not materialise.
Crash Rom will be here to
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cheers, I'm sure those browsing like me will know what's up now.
I've already ordered my note 2, but I would fully support the dev crew. even if that means selling my note 2 at a loss and buying what's being developed, pending though. I do like phablets and if the x+ doesn't have an exspansion slot then I probably wouldn't buy it.
I also hope aokp devs on the note 2. I certainly love their ROMS
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Samsung getting too big for their own ego?
I currently own the Int'l N7000 and I found the development to be good for what I want. But then, I think I'll just go get a Nexus for ease of development (but the screen is so small!)
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I'll be here when I get my note2 in December
For those that don't know, TW ROM, aokp and multi booting kernel (or at least 2 sesperate kernels )
Myself and utaka could probably come up with a aosp supporting kernel for the device if official CM does not materialise.
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Are noobs like me allowed to jump in please?
Utacka sir is so kind to us all in his PA thread
Anyways, I think devving for this device would initially start with kanged TW based ROMs. With CM wary on supporting the device, it does seem a bit dark but hey, I am sure there are others to step up.
But then again, you can never be too sure.
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BTW, next nexus device is perhaps open to all OEMs.
Might be an Optimus from LG but from what I've read other manufactures are welcome to jump in and join the party.
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I am the same, an expansion card slot is a big plus.
development support is also a big factor.
I would flash aokp right now but i'm so scared of emmc bug (which I assume will not be in the Note 2 just like it did not exist in GB ROM Notes. But who knows if "Key Lime Pie/Kandy Kane" might have a similar brick bug) on ICS kangs that I just stay far, far, away.
My ultimate fav is CassiesXtraLite so it's good to see thering1975 on the list.
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I do like phablets and if the x+ doesn't have an exspansion slot then I probably wouldn't buy it.
I also hope aokp devs on the note 2. I certainly love their ROMS
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I might bring VillainRom to the Note2, but only if/when we can get our OTA update/optional mods app up and running to a high enough standard.
Would be nice to know for wich model is going to work each developer.
- f3w1n -
Currently we only have one kernel port from S3 and 3 decent roms after one month of the release.
Do you know if anyother developer like siyah or franco are going to make kernels for our device? It is a shame to don't have it
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Currently we only have one kernel port from S3 and 3 decent roms after one month of the release.
Do you know if anyother developer like siyah or franco are going to make kernels for our device? It is a shame to don't have it
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Gokhan wont develop kernels for note 2, he develops only for phones which he has. Franco has made a lot of kernels for different phones and he doesnt have time. He started development for note 1 but later it was abandoned, with s3 updates was pretty slow comparing with siyah and andreilux kernels. For me stock kernel rooted+stock firmware the best. Amazing performance+battery life
The reason for the "poor" development for the Note 2 is:
It's great, Never before i had an Android-Phone better than this, Very good work by Samsung-Engineers.
It's super fast, smooth, stable and batterylife is extraordinary good.
So, what to improve by the developers?
Customizing with Themes is OK in my eyes. The performance of the Note 2 is outstanding even with Stock-Firmware. No need for Custom Kernel / Rom.
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Exactly. There is nothing to develop in an already developed thing.
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There is no documentation or source codes for Exynos devices. Not forgetting that it's a young device. There's a petition for Samsung to release the information, but being proprietary SoC's they don't have to release anything.
A quick google would answer your questions.
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hurricane3d said:
The reason for the "poor" development for the Note 2 is:
It's great, Never before i had an Android-Phone better than this, Very good work by Samsung-Engineers.
It's super fast, smooth, stable and batterylife is extraordinary good.
So, what to improve by the developers?
Customizing with Themes is OK in my eyes. The performance of the Note 2 is outstanding even with Stock-Firmware. No need for Custom Kernel / Rom.
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You do know what XDA is about right?
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Exactly. There is nothing to develop in an already developed thing.
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Garbage.
Suicidal Chicken said:
There is no documentation or source codes for Exynos devices. Not forgetting that it's a young device. There's a petition for Samsung to release the information, but being proprietary SoC's they don't have to release anything.
A quick google would answer your questions.
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Bingo.
I'm ok to say the note 2 is already perfect but this device need a dpi per app in the samsung firmware.
Why you don't develop then?
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Suicidal Chicken said:
There is no documentation or source codes for Exynos devices. Not forgetting that it's a young device. There's a petition for Samsung to release the information, but being proprietary SoC's they don't have to release anything.
A quick google would answer your questions.
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Is this what you're talking about?
"Developers, start your ROM engines! In what is sure to be a boon to the rooted communities for the popular Galaxy Note 2 and the international version of the Galasy S III, Samsung tweeted earlier today that we should "expect full availability of integrated source code for #Exynos 4 family of processors on OrigenBoard by the end of 2012!"
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...nos-4-series-source-code-by-end-of-2012-r1203
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Is this what you're talking about?
"Developers, start your ROM engines! In what is sure to be a boon to the rooted communities for the popular Galaxy Note 2 and the international version of the Galasy S III, Samsung tweeted earlier today that we should "expect full availability of integrated source code for #Exynos 4 family of processors on OrigenBoard by the end of 2012!"
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...nos-4-series-source-code-by-end-of-2012-r1203
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cough *broken source code* cough
Poor Development
May be Note II model has still not landed in the hands of the potential developers. Development may take off in the very near future.
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Garbage.
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What is? Stop being a smarta$$! Anyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, and imo in this case I was right.
And what's xda about? It's for so called 'development' for those devices which are basically crap. But no one gives a damn about development for Note 2.
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jujuburi said:
What is? Stop being a smarta$$! Anyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, and imo in this case I was right.
And what's xda about? It's for so called 'development' for those devices which are basically crap. But no one gives a damn about development for Note 2.
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You're entitled to have your own opinion, but this is not about opinion, it's about facts; and your facts are dead wrong.
"It's for so called 'development' for those devices which are basically crap"
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So you're saying that every single Android device out there is crap?
"But no one gives a damn about development for Note 2."
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You do realize that the Note 2 just got released right?
I'm not sure why you are here at all. You do know that XDA is a DEVELOPMENT forum right? If you're not interested in modifying and development, then why are you here?
I was a bit gutted with so few roms out. I pick up my phone in the morning, was gonna tweak and flash tomorrow night.
But after a little though, do I need to? I've not even got it yet. I just wana flash and tweak out of habit. And it's only been out weeks.
I love the resurection rom on my s2, I like the UI. But I was runiing Wanam lite before that and it was good rom, I liked the layout. I'll give it a few weeks, see how it feels, but I'm quite happy that a developer (Wanam) I've used before is up and running on the note 2. It won't have as many developers as the s2 or s3, but I expect more will come.
Xda hasn't let me down yet, alomst six years in,
I have faith that XDA will help me tweak and flash when I need new features.
Thanks to all the devs, on all the phones, especially the note 2 though
Why are U here?
Forums require a few basic social skills and your about junior high level.
Be a big boy and start responding without bring rude.
QUOTE=LordManhattan;33438033]You're entitled to have your own opinion, but this is not about opinion, it's about facts; and your facts are dead wrong.
So you're saying that every single Android device out there is crap?
You do realize that the Note 2 just got released right?
I'm not sure why you are here at all. You do know that XDA is a DEVELOPMENT forum right? If you're not interested in modifying and development, then why are you here?[/QUOTE]
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I pretty much agree....as much as I've loved modding over the years, this device leaves me with the least amount of motivation to tweak it whatsoever. No need for battery saving mods. If your a themefreak well then yeah, I'm not.
CM to me for this device dumbs it down (this from a longtime CM'er)...doesn't bring anything speed wise, and the Samsung Note features are just too cool to forego...(for me)atures
Kernel options are a mute point tho I do enjoy overclocking at times.
Mod's like multitasking unlimited apps are great (for me).
Developing a per app adjustable dpi would be great actually, but not going aosp to do it.
Lotta other minor stuff I could list but, hey....I never thought I'd say it but hats off to Samsung for releasing the first device I've ever been .satisfied with out of the box .
I had Galaxy Note before and many renowned developers there are getting Note 2 before the end of this year and probably we will see boom in developement when those developers get Note2.... among those is is g.lewarne the creator of Hydracore kernels which made Note 1 fly like anything.
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Jelly Bean TW Miui with all S pen functionalites and tricks of Samsung will take Note 2 to another level.
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Jelly Bean TW Miui with all S pen functionalites and tricks of Samsung will take Note 2 to another level.
if it ain't broke don't fix it. I had a galaxy nexus before but at this point I am fully content with the stock device, not even rooted. I feel that since Jelly Bean custom stuff as become less interesting. Installing custom stuff is becoming more a hobby than a requirement.
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if it ain't broke don't fix it. I had a galaxy nexus before but at this point I am fully content with the stock device, not even rooted. I feel that since Jelly Bean custom stuff as become less interesting. Installing custom stuff is becoming more a hobby than a requirement.
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+1 you are absolutly right.:good:
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You're entitled to have your own opinion, but this is not about opinion, it's about facts; and your facts are dead wrong.
So you're saying that every single Android device out there is crap?
You do realize that the Note 2 just got released right?
I'm not sure why you are here at all. You do know that XDA is a DEVELOPMENT forum right? If you're not interested in modifying and development, then why are you here?
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I really don't reply to 'these' meaningless comments but still I'm doing as I've nothing better to do atm.
Why I am here? Well that ain't your business. So get over with it.
I'm saying every Android device is crap? I'll donate you 10000$ if you can find that in my post.
Still I'm saying, yes, not every device is S2, S3, OX or Note 2, and just because God gifted me with plenty of money doesn't mean everyone could purchase these high end toys. There are PLENTY mid and low range Droid exists, and your so called 'development' theory applied to 'those' devices, NOT by any means to the top guns like I mentioned above.
Do you realize Note 2 just got released right? Yes, I do. And frankly, I'm so happy that there isn't much needless stuffs going on in the so called 'development' section, more 'development' means more freaks and kids and it's a damn disgrace for any forum.
In the end, I paid 700 $ to Samsung and they gave me a beautiful device ( Yes, some glitches are there of course, but where doesn't? ) and that's all I care about. I don't want a half baked overhyped crap on my lovely phone, and I like Apple products more than a hormone crazed flashoholic. (No disrespect meant to Apple). Still, some great persons are here, like Chainfire, Hardcore, Supercurio etc, who are attracting persons like me to surf this forum now and then, but the number is few, very few.
One more thing, don't take this forum as your personal property, you are just another user like me with more thanks metre and a pesky tag, things mean the least to me.
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Which device seems more likely to get the best development support? Cyanogen(Steve) shared on G+ that he will keep both devices so both should see official CM very soon. The Galaxy phones are way more popular but are split up into many different forums per carrier on XDA. The One seems to only have 3 different threads (why the hell does ATT have its own when it is the same as the international?) and seems like it will be more centralized. Does this split seem like it will put overall development in one phone's favor over the other? I'm so lost with trying to decide between these two phones, I just have to ask. Thoughts? Anyone come from the One X(HTC One S dev was terrible) or S3?
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Which device seems more likely to get the best development support? Cyanogen(Steve) shared on G+ that he will keep both devices so both should see official CM very soon. The Galaxy phones are way more popular but are split up into many different forums per carrier on XDA. The One seems to only have 3 different threads (why the hell does ATT have its own when it is the same as the international?) and seems like it will be more centralized. Does this split seem like it will put overall development in one phone's favor over the other? I'm so lost with trying to decide between these two phones, I just have to ask. Thoughts? Anyone come from the One X(HTC One S dev was terrible) or S3?
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i am not a developer. from what i know from flashing ROMs, phones that have a single chipset (like the HTC one with snapdragon, vs Galaxy S3/S4 tha thad exynos/snapdragon variants) attract more dev support b/c ROMs can be flashed across all carrier versions.
and along with official bootloader unlocking, it appears HTC would attract more devs. i think it will also depend on who releases source code quickly.
again, this is just conjecture based on experience.
I believe I read that HTC already released the source code for the one.
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If I'm not mistaken the galaxy series' are easier to develop for. Having said that I think the one will receive much love just because it's a freakin awesome phone and everybody is going to have on a like Steve.
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It doesn't matter which phone will receive more development because both phones will have a great amount of development anyway.
A Galaxy series phone is always guaranteed to have a lot of dev support and from the devs already supporting the One, with more to come, this will have great continued support aswell.
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Which device seems more likely to get the best development support? Cyanogen(Steve) shared on G+ that he will keep both devices so both should see official CM very soon. The Galaxy phones are way more popular but are split up into many different forums per carrier on XDA. The One seems to only have 3 different threads (why the hell does ATT have its own when it is the same as the international?) and seems like it will be more centralized. Does this split seem like it will put overall development in one phone's favor over the other? I'm so lost with trying to decide between these two phones, I just have to ask. Thoughts? Anyone come from the One X(HTC One S dev was terrible) or S3?
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Really should be in the Q&A
But should receive a generous amount of dev. CM creator Steve put out a wonderful review of the unit. I would suspect this and the S4 will be the major units of 2013 dev wise.
No support for exynos devices. Team hacksung already stated that none of them will buy Samsung phones. They are frustrated due to lack of sources. They already moved to Xperia Z.
Of course, snapdragon version will get support
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Also Koush said on G+ apparently the AT&T and Verizon S4 will have locked bootloaders. It took a lot of work for Adam Outler and others to get the bootloader unlocked for the Note 2 & S3.
KidCarter93 said:
It doesn't matter which phone will receive more development because both phones will have a great amount of development anyway.
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Most of so called "development" is copying other people's work, changing some icons and other images and zipping it up and making a cwm file. There are very few unique and useful mods.
Once some most glaring problems with a phone are fixed, development's job is finished. The rest is photoshopping and winzipping.
I say HTC One has already recevied almost enough development support. Volume button wake is implemented to fight the stupid power button placement problem. Most ROMs have already removed the annoying menu bar. Once custom kernels solve the rest of the problems like slow charging, what else is needed?
I am coming from s3 as i lost my device was thinking to get one this time.
I am also worried about its development.
But i am sure it will get cm rom but i dont think it will get as much aosp rom as galaxy series
And proper development means aosp rom development not some mods and theming
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nitinvaid said:
I am coming from s3 as i lost my device was thinking to get one this time.
I am also worried about its development.
But i am sure it will get cm rom but i dont think it will get as much aosp rom as galaxy series
And proper development means aosp rom development not some mods and theming
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It doesn't matter if the One has less AOSP ROMs than the S4 because as long as they're both high end phones and both have high quality ROMs to choose from, what else matters?
The One will get plenty of AOSP ROMs anyway. Any phone can be used for this following example;
CM is usually one of the first ROMs to be released on a phone, whether that be officially or unofficially. Once CM hits the device, a lot more ROMs appear because a lot of people base their ROMs right off of CM.
Even if CM isn't one of the first ROMs, the only ROMs we'll really see before it are stock based ROMs just like we have in this forum.
Quality NOT quantity!
And proper development doesn't mean AOSP because it wouldn't exactly be hard for me to make a ROM from an existing AOSP ROM. Just add a few simple features and done. That's not proper development in the slightest.
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Hi Everyone,
I just took delivery of my new S4 Exynos (Octa) and am surprised how few custom ROMS are out there for this device.
I had an S3 and so I'm kinda used to being spoilt for choice when it came to custom ROMS.
Any ideas why there's but a few for the Octa? Is it because of the chipset?
I saw Cyanogen have said they nt going to release any ROMS for the Octa
device is relatively new, exynos always gave headaches to devs of CM.....
give it time, some people said its not worth upgrading from an s3 so... yeah less custom ROMs
Really its a bitter truth...9500 has only 2 or 3 Devs till now with no update and fixes in lias 2 or 3 weeks ..that section seems like ghost busted :
9505 too has not as many Devs as HTC One has...however it has quite good dev support
I think after so many issues in s4 Devs are skipping it [probably] for note 3
lets wait and see in the near future if the outcome is bad, its hammer time !
Gboss01 said:
Hi Everyone,
I just took delivery of my new S4 Exynos (Octa) and am surprised how few custom ROMS are out there for this device.
I had an S3 and so I'm kinda used to being spoilt for choice when it came to custom ROMS.
Any ideas why there's but a few for the Octa? Is it because of the chipset?
I saw Cyanogen have said they nt going to release any ROMS for the Octa
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To be clear - CM rarely says that a given device will NEVER be supported. The last time we did that was with the Snapdragon S1 and CM9 - That hardware was simply too weak to support ICS and later.
However, all of the CM maintainers that have worked with past Exynos variants refuse to touch it, and anyone else with maintainer experience saw what we went through with Exynos4 and also seem to be avoiding it.
There is always the possibility that someone new will pick things up - but honestly, I consider the likelihood to be very slim.
So CM support for the "Octa" is POSSIBLE - but it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY. I think that AndreiLux was the only experienced low-level (kernels, platform bringup) developer to touch the "Octa", and he's not particularly happy with it so far.
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So CM support for the "Octa" is POSSIBLE - but it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY. I think that AndreiLux was the only experienced low-level (kernels, platform bringup) developer to touch the "Octa", and he's not particularly happy with it so far.
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Other than the CCI fiasco I'm relatively fine with the phone. I expected and was prepared to bring MP to the device but I guess that's not happening.
As for CM, I think it's more of a problem of lack of interest than actual technical feasibility. I'd happily dwell into the device platform world if I had time but that's not happening anytime soon as I have a backlog of features in the kernel space to do and finish.
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Other than the CCI fiasco I'm relatively fine with the phone. I expected and was prepared to bring MP to the device but I guess that's not happening.
As for CM, I think it's more of a problem of lack of interest than actual technical feasibility. I'd happily dwell into the device platform world if I had time but that's not happening anytime soon as I have a backlog of features in the kernel space to do and finish.
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Why you will not bring it anymore?
Gboss01 said:
Hi Everyone,
I just took delivery of my new S4 Exynos (Octa) and am surprised how few custom ROMS are out there for this device.
I had an S3 and so I'm kinda used to being spoilt for choice when it came to custom ROMS.
Any ideas why there's but a few for the Octa? Is it because of the chipset?
I saw Cyanogen have said they nt going to release any ROMS for the Octa
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No CM support does not equal to no dev support just to be clear. There are top.devs here ( Indie and Wanam) and there most likely be more devs to join the party. It is however a surprise that there's only a few Roms for this device at the moment.
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Well because most of the S4 users have the Snapdragon variant. As for CM, as Entropy said, its most probably not going to come out for our device, even if it does, it'll be broken and unusable due to lack of source code/documentation, etc. As for the custom ROMs, we'll have more of them but the best one IMO - Android Revolution HD - is very unlikely for our device.
The Octa is such a great phone yet the support seems to be lacking a little, I mean my Huawei U8800 had more development going on than this phone.
I dont get why alot of people are saying the Octa is crap compared to the S600 when the Octa beats the S600 in every benchmark I've seen.
Is the S600 an easier design to build custom ROMS for?
I have tried Doc Barebones ROM and Wanams Lite ROM. Both work well on the Octa but I found Docs ROM to the give me the highest Antutu scores, always above 30000 with the highest being 30890. Wanam's ROM didn't yield much more than the stock ROM, around 28300, same with the Omega v4 ROM.
I'm back to on the stock firmware, with bloatware removed, for now. having tried those three ROMS I'm itching to try another but alas I cant find any :crying:
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Is the S600 an easier design to build custom ROMS for?
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Yes as Qualcomm is much more open source than Exynos. Not open source = pain in the a** to develop.
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Yes as Qualcomm is much more open source than Exynos. Not open source = pain in the a** to develop.
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Damn!
I read some where that Samsung might release the source code for the exynos. Is this true?
And if they did would that make it any easie rto develop ROMS for the Octa?
Just simply harder to develop anything for Exynos, i think.
I'd like to remind everyone that developers spend their own time and money on development.
Basically, unless the developer has a strong interest in a device he will not feel obliged to 'hack' features such as camera, noise canceling and so on.
I miss the old days of the HD2
I hope we can get CM on the 9500 because it will open the door for AOKP and Paranoid-Android and possibly MIUI.
Good luck to the developers.
RIP on i9500 haha just joking ... @AndreiLux are u giving up on i9500 ? oh please dont
As Entropy512 said, the problem is mostly because Exynos has terrible source code support. There are a lot of precompiled modules in the source, and these are tied to the Android version that the source code is for. This means that when a new version of Android comes out, you're stuck waiting for Samsung to catch up.
What the devs (like Entropy) have been trying to do is to create open-source versions of these modules, so that they're not reliant on Samsung. This has been extremely frustrating for them, requiring a lot of work for very little gain.
What would be ideal is for Samsung to provide source code and documentation for these precompiled modules. They're promised to do this several times, but so far have only delivered some code that only works for a reference board, not for the hardware configurations that any of their phones use. Even worse, the source code that is available is based on Gingerbread, and has numerous hacks applied to allow it to work with ICS. In short, it's just broken and will not work.
Qualcomm (Snapdragon), on the other hand, provide very good developer support. They and Texas Instruments (OMAP) have a very good reputation with the devs, with lots of source code and documentation available. That's why Snapdragon and OMAP phones are among the first to be supported when new versions of AOSP/AOKP/CM come out.
The I9500 may do better in the benchmarks than the I9505, but that's one of the few advantages it has.
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I am not really interested in anything else but AOSP / CM on this phone. We badly need it.. I think we need to build the force on Twitter so that we can bombard their twitter account (@SamsungExynos) and force them to release at least some sorta source for Exynos.
I already started tweeting them like hell. Yes, they do reply with kind of SAFE sided replies..
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Damn!
I read some where that Samsung might release the source code for the exynos. Is this true?
And if they did would that make it any easie rto develop ROMS for the Octa?
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If they did it would make the world of difference and Exynos would be on a level playing field in development terms as the likes of Snapdragon. Unfortunately, Samsung have been saying that since the original Galaxy S and it still hasn't happened, and it's clear they never intended to release anything and it was nothing more than lip service in an attempt to sell more handsets by appearing developer friendly. It's broken promises like this which has made reputable developers wash their hands with the Exynos chipset and any phones that use it. Unfortunately, this leaves people with the I9500 in a bit of a predicament if they're not fond of TW as it's likely to be their only option for the foreseeable, if not full stop.
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Damn!
I read some where that Samsung might release the source code for the exynos. Is this true?
And if they did would that make it any easie rto develop ROMS for the Octa?
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Exynos open source? Highly unlikely and yes it would be much easier building roms, devs wouldn't even need to have the device to build a working ROM.
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RIP on i9500 haha just joking ... @AndreiLux are u giving up on i9500 ? oh please dont
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He never said that, on the contrary he might be having some big plans
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