As Much as I love the G2.. qwerty newcomer phone.. - G2 and Desire Z General

Don't get me wrong, I love my G2. But that being said I also love android which means tons of widgets and apps which tend to slow the slightly slower (ie experienced ) processor/ram on the G2. And I have a pretty quick ICS rom..
But that being said I am constantly on the prowl keeping an eye for the much rumored G3. Im sure others are like me. Unfortunately HTC sounds a bit anti-qwerty (and more and more anti-developers) lately (karma=loss of market share?) so it might be forthcoming.. ever.. So we must to other qwerty's.. I love HTC build quality but if a nice samsung or motorola qwerty comes along I might be out..
Sorry to beat around the bush, but I found a newcomer which seems pretty rocking. Check it out!
(Granted the name is not as slick or sexy as G3.. and its on sprints network ewww haha)
Engadget:
"Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE review: the best full QWERTY phone on Sprint's network"
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Mmmm look at that 5 row qwerty!!
And engadget loved it : "This is one of the finest physical keyboards we've used on an Android device in quite some time."
Granted I dont use sprint/sprints bands but at least phone makers are making qwertys with at least reasonable specs and ICS. Perhaps they are getting smart and trying to capture the rest of RIMM's market share..

unuseable for anyone who isn't on sprint. embedded sim card and i heard, non replaceable battery
such nice spec but such locked down features......
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I was looking at that my self and first of all motorolla from what i understand is even more anti dev than htc. Also the non removable battery kills it too as said before. I still have my fingers cross for the Galaxy Relay to have an S4

i like the phone.. just the fact that it's locked up tight like an adamantium chastity belt that's been welded shut rather than have a lock around it.

Yea the device is pretty nice but they totally dropped the ball on the embedded sim issue. While Motorola traditionally locks down their bootloader, this device is shipping with the ability to be unlocked.
If it had a removable sim & battery it would be totally killer, but it doesn't so it's a no starter.
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Sprint and Verizon are not the carrier choice for people (like me) who always need to travel outside of US.

blk_jack said:
Yea the device is pretty nice but they totally dropped the ball on the embedded sim issue. While Motorola traditionally locks down their bootloader, this device is shipping with the ability to be unlocked.
If it had a removable sim & battery it would be totally killer, but it doesn't so it's a no starter.
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agree, too bad. Id probably drop everything for it if it were gsm with a removable sim card and battery.. too bad too sad

Somebody knows about good QWERTY Android phone (with native ICS)? Replacement for Desire Z / G2? Can´t google anything...

as of now? there's only the relay which has embedded sim and nonremoveable battery.. and another one.. i can't remember off hte top of my head but it's headed to tmobile i believe.. that means you'll be stuck with a quirky band that wont work anywhere else inthe world.

mputtr said:
as of now? there's only the relay which has embedded sim and nonremoveable battery.. and another one.. i can't remember off hte top of my head but it's headed to tmobile i believe.. that means you'll be stuck with a quirky band that wont work anywhere else inthe world.
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Relay hasnt been released yet and so far seems that it has removable bat and obvs removable sim because its tmo. Maybe you are mixing up names.

Joe333x said:
Relay hasnt been released yet and so far seems that it has removable bat and obvs removable sim because its tmo. Maybe you are mixing up names.
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i might be mixing up. i know the cdma one, has non removable battery & sim.
although the tmo one still probalby just has tmo's bands only so it would only work halfway with other carrier's (say.. at&t or any other carrier around the world )
EDIT: after doing my reading again, what i was referring to was the photon. not the relay. Apologies >.<

This is proof that other manufacturers are hoping to cash in on HTC abandoning the original Android consumer base (those of us who prefer physical keyboards).
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blackknightavalon said:
This is proof that other manufacturers are hoping to cash in on HTC abandoning the original Android consumer base (those of us who prefer physical keyboards).
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I like how you said "original android consumer base" its so true, its seems mfgs just want to be like apple and that was the reason i went with the G1, i HATE on screen typing, i LOVE keyboards but no mfg wants to release one that is equal to the specs of the latest non qwerty. If this relay comes out and only has an S3 then it just shows no one cares about us qwerty lovers.

I need someone to buy this, tear it apart, and take photos, so i can see if it´s possible to solder an other sim in there.
This really needs to come to europe.

I'm so with you on the "HATE on screen typing and LOVE keyboards". Good thing I baby my G2 cuz it looks like I may have to keep for as long as possible.

Is that the Droid 4?
I recently acquired a Motorola Droid 3, which looks VERY similar to the phone in your pictures, so I am thinking it is the Droid 4, which was recently released on Verizon. Seems to be something about cell phone companies and phone names, they want to give it a different name on every carrier...
Another keyboard phone of interest to some is the Samsung Galaxy Q. It is a low end phone, but has a very nice keyboard, better than any other Samsung phone with a keyboard I have seen. I bought one for my daughter, and it works quite well, especially considering the price.

I'm actually gunna keep the desire z, I think it'll last another year, and with my nexus 7, I won't demand as much from it! Who's with me
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xT4Z1N4TRx said:
I'm actually gunna keep the desire z, I think it'll last another year, and with my nexus 7, I won't demand as much from it! Who's with me
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Same here :good:

xT4Z1N4TRx said:
I'm actually gunna keep the desire z, I think it'll last another year, and with my nexus 7, I won't demand as much from it! Who's with me
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I will keep both for several years if the jb roms gets better.
And then hardwaremod the crap out of it.
On that note, could you help me find out highest possible mW output on the powerline to the led? Don't care if it fries the original led, i want to put in a high power laser led in the phone
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Some new info about Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G - will be available beginning September 19th for $150 with a two-year agreement.

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WOOT CDMA iPhone coming soon

Verizon just confirmed the iphone release:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html?mod=djemalertNEWS
Would this make it possible for us to flash it for sprint?
Get that outta here...the ipunk gets no love here. We're all about android here buddy. Go to a iphone forum with that question....lol
Just playing.
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Get that outta here...the ipunk gets no love here. We're all about android here buddy. Go to a iphone forum with that question....lol
Just playing.
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YEAH! lol j/k
But really gtfo
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xHausx said:
YEAH! lol j/k
But really gtfo
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Lmao...lol
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Possibly has something to do with this?
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-cut-return-policy-14-days-effective-jan-16th
Only sissies have iphones.
I can't believe the OP even asked that question here..too funny
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No phone would be able to convince me to take it in the ass from At&t OR Verizon.
Iphones are for the ladies it takes a real man to run on Android and harness it >=]
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wow you guys are seriously worst than iphone fan boys.
hmm, a retina display with better cpu/gpu, better app market, better front and back camera, and overall 10x better as hardware and software (minus the ****ty at&t network) or an old outdated cpu/gpu, with a pretty bad app market, and ****ty cameras.
hmm thats a hard one. If someone figures out a way to "unlock" it to work on sprint, im jumping it asap. Unless sprint has something up their sleeves like the motorola atrix, which i doubt.
Also i never said that people should switch to verizon. Hence why i posted:
"Would this make it possible for us to flash it for sprint?"
Also hence why i said "CDMA iphone" and not "verizon iphone"
lrn2read, and then comment.
Ill pass. I got a iPod touch.
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Last-Chance said:
wow you guys are seriously worst than iphone fan boys.
hmm, a retina display with better cpu/gpu, better app market, better front and back camera, and overall 10x better as hardware and software (minus the ****ty at&t network) or an old outdated cpu/gpu, with a pretty bad app market, and ****ty cameras.
hmm thats a hard one. If someone figures out a way to "unlock" it to work on sprint, im jumping it asap. Unless sprint has something up their sleeves like the motorola atrix, which i doubt.
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Irrelevant to what some people said:
mattykinsx said:
No phone would be able to convince me to take it in the ass from At&t OR Verizon.
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You'll notice that says no phone, not "the iphone"
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-cut-return-policy-14-days-effective-jan-16th
http://www.androidcentral.com/veriz...de-policy-youll-have-wait-20-months-new-phone
Only two examples of many, many.
Last-Chance said:
wow you guys are seriously worst than iphone fan boys.
hmm, a retina display with better cpu/gpu, better app market, better front and back camera, and overall 10x better as hardware and software (minus the ****ty at&t network) or an old outdated cpu/gpu, with a pretty bad app market, and ****ty cameras.
hmm thats a hard one. If someone figures out a way to "unlock" it to work on sprint, im jumping it asap. Unless sprint has something up their sleeves like the motorola atrix, which i doubt.
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wow you guys are seriously worst than iphone fan boys.
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Have you ever looked in an iphone forum and seen how they bash android?
This is nothing.
mattykinsx said:
No phone would be able to convince me to take it in the ass from At&t OR Verizon.
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What this man said is how I feel.
I'd probably leave Android as well. I do miss my iPhone and all the amazing apps.
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I would jump on a sprint iphone 4 in a hear beat.
Last-Chance said:
wow you guys are seriously worst than iphone fan boys.
hmm, a retina display with better cpu/gpu, better app market, better front and back camera, and overall 10x better as hardware and software (minus the ****ty at&t network) or an old outdated cpu/gpu, with a pretty bad app market, and ****ty cameras.
hmm thats a hard one. If someone figures out a way to "unlock" it to work on sprint, im jumping it asap. Unless sprint has something up their sleeves like the motorola atrix, which i doubt.
Also i never said that people should switch to verizon. Hence why i posted:
"Would this make it possible for us to flash it for sprint?"
Also hence why i said "CDMA iphone" and not "verizon iphone"
lrn2read, and then comment.
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Yeah have you ever been to an Iphone forum? They act like the iphone is god's work and every other phone is just trying to copy.
I'm guessing you're comparing the Evo/Iphone.
The camera app actually has many more functions than an Iphone camera. From contrast/saturation/brightness levels to ISO levels, we have quite a bit of customization there. The camera is as good as the person using it.
We also have some camera replacement apps (as well as messaging app replacements and widget replacements and keyboard replacements... )
Retina display is all Steve Job's bs crap. No one cared about pixels until he mentioned it. Have you used a magnifying glass to read text on your phone and find all the pixels?
I'd rather have a bigger screened phone. I don't know how anyone can go from 4.3" to 3.5", lol. I can't even drop down to 4.0" for some of these new phones coming out.
Better cpu? Eh, snapdragon is fast enough on the CPU side.
GPU? Sucks...
But if you're comparing any of the newer phones such as the newer GPUs by HTC and the Galaxy line by Samsung, then it beats the iphone.
App market? We have SOOOO many more free apps... period. I rarely buy apps. The App store is filled with soooo many 99c crapps. Until recently, they have been getting priority with companies. Nowadays, many new apps are built for android/iphone both simply because of the marketshare.
Though I do commend Apple on keeping their product line so simple... they can create the thinnest phone with the biggest battery and everyone buys it.
Other companies need to learn from that. HTC pumps out new phones like no other. Phones get lost with all these random names like Desire, Eris, Incredible, Hero, Evo... not to techies, but to regular users.
Woooah rant. Fed troll. :/
The retina display is so much clearer than super amoled, or any other android screen on the market (right now)
The iphone is so much snappier than my evo, even with me running CM6. Everything on the iphone is faster. One thing i really noticed was how fast photos upload. In order for me to look at my pictures on my sd card, it takes 10 seconds to see one photo (might be exaggerated by a couple of seconds), but on the iphone you click on gallery, and the photos are there.
The app store on mac products also has apps for basically everything. Android is finally catching up..and im proud of them. However, it will take a while before they have the amount of apps that are as good as iphone. I would rather pay 99 cents for an app than not have an option for it at all.
My opinion is that a iPhone is a toy its a ipod touch really with more specs I'd rather have a phone that looks different from. Every apple product all there touch products look the same
To me that's my opinion

G1 Successors..

So I have been casually been browsing around off and on for the past few months for a rocking follow up phone to the G1.. Don't get me wrong- I absolutely love my G1. Ask anyone who knows me, I love it and it loves me. Nothing like owning the original android, and plus its a stellar phone. I looove the keyboard, there isnt another like it other there. It's just I havent been able to settle on a great daily ROM that is extremely stable, with good battery life and is snappy.
So I thought I would share my findings in my conquests to find some phones that us G1 fanatics could buy once we decide to put down our heavenly G1's.
1. Obviously first off there is the "G2". A great phone I might actually get once I finally part ways with the G1.
I was browsing Tmobile's site today and found another sweet quasi-G1 phone that are yet to release!
2. The Tmobile Sidekick 4G looks like it might be the first sidekick whose execution follows through on a cool phone concept. The keyboard looks very spacious and much like the G1 and plus its got the whole flip screen idea which seems kinda neat to me.. http://sidekick.t-mobile.com/
Feel free everyone to add any comments or any other phones that you think might fulfill a g1 user's dreams for the a future phone..
It looks like G2 is a name used for different phones. Can you link a picture?
I think a good successor may be the HTC Vision, http://www.newphones.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/HTC-Vision-phone.jpg
Desire Z would be the real successor.
river-dragon said:
It looks like G2 is a name used for different phones. Can you link a picture?
I think a good successor may be the HTC Vision, http://www.newphones.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/HTC-Vision-phone.jpg
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Dang, that HTC Vision does indeed look pretty slick. The keyboard looks like and spacey; I hate the keyboards that are cramped..
Here is an image of the HTC/Tmobile G2. And official Site here Great Review of it Here; I think it looks amazing!!
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Desire Z would be the real successor.
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Hot dang, that Desire Z does look super sick!! Here is a link: http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirez/overview.html
In fact in just briefly look over it, I cant figure out how it is different from the G2- perhaps newer?
austriker27 said:
Hot dang, that Desire Z does look super sick!! Here is a link: http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirez/overview.html
In fact in just briefly look over it, I cant figure out how it is different from the G2- perhaps newer?
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It is not different except slightly with regard to the software on it. Also the compatible frequency set. If you're reading these forums, then the software it ships with doesn't matter to you to begin with.
BOTH are HTC VISION -- that is the real name of the hardware.
That samsung "sidekick" thing looks very similar in spec to the VISION. A couple of things to be aware of... samsung is known for poor quality "feel" (i.e., they feel cheap and plasticy), has had SEVERE problems with things like GPS.
Given the similarities in specs, you KNOW that the HTC VISION has been totally owned (you can take a brand new one from tmobile and run "gfree" on it and it instantly becomes full hardware and radio unlocked). The samsung is still an unknown quantity and a risk. Go with what is known. The VISION is an excellent phone and a worthy successor to the DREAM.
Note: I see that your carrier is ATT... you would be better off buying one from BELL CANADA than from tmobile because of frequency selection.
I thought the Tmobile G2 was the successor to the Tmobile G1. No debate? Lol
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I thought the Tmobile G2 was the successor to the Tmobile G1. No debate? Lol
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haha, yea I guess 'officially' you are right..
dhkr: Yea I was reading reviews, and heard pretty much the same thing about the sidekick.. The sidekicks always kind of 'appealed' to me, but now I think I am moving on past the 'cool' phone stage and looking at phones that are function based/pro (ie the G2).
Actually I will be getting a new plan come may so I might go with another carrier- we will see.. Gosh I keep lusting over the G2; it looks like wicked! Although I just recently rerooted my G1 and cant get enough of it; the original android = AWESOME!
I was just kind of posting this more for people to get informed about possible phones they could buy after their g1; phones similar to the g1. (rather than a 'what should i buy?' thread).. thanks for the input!
Agreed...Sidekick looks great, but I have had a long experience of reliability with my HTC phones...it would be hard to go past the G2/Desire Z
I had been looking quite closely at these phones. At first I really liked the Desire Z. I wanted one just by looking at it. I wouldn't have gotten rid of the G1 very easily though.
I'm changing my trail of thought though. I'm starting to look ahead to the XPERIA Pro. (Can't post a link, can't edit the post until after 5 minutes... getting tired of these forum restrictions. :/) I think this would be my G1 successor... maybe. I don't think I could afford this when it is properly released here until it becomes an average phone that's not capable of the latest software demands, but I'd damn sure love one of those in silver right now!
Thanks for the input, and I would agree that the xerpia pro looks very nice. At first glance it seems like it might be a bit flimsy; gosh those htc phones just have such a pro/smooth look.
Here are a few links for the Xerpia Pro and photos .. (sucks about the forum restrictions chocolate columbo, just keep posting!)
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Looking spiffy but on first glance I might still prefer the G2.
Nobody wants the g2x? (Basically a stock Froyo version of the optimus 2x. Coming out on the 20th i believe.
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well, although that phone looks rad, it does not really match the features we g1 lovers like.. mainly an awesome physical keyboard. I think I prefer the G2's maker (htc) over g2x (low build quality LG).
Being a g1 owner atm I do appreciate having a physical keyboard over touchscreen typing,however I'm sick of having smaller screens just cuz I prefer the latter. I don't really see why everyone trips out on how big or thin/small the phone is, its like if the phone isn't a .01mm leaner then the last everyone bashes it and calls it a brick. Ffs I love my fat g1 with extended 2300mah/bigger back cover to boot, I've never dropped it and its always comfortable holding it to type novels like this one or even play emulators on. I guess my main gripe is why nobody has yet to make an 4.3 inch slide out qwerty phone(closest being the epic,but samsung is fail!) My next phone will be the g2x I'm sick of waiting for my dream phone and hearing that cyanogen tweeted g2x is his next personal phone its really a no brainer for anyone that enjoys a stock android experience with tons of mods to come. To hell with the physical keyboard,G2x here I come!
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I don't really see why everyone trips out on how big or thin/small the phone is, its like if the phone isn't a .01mm leaner then the last everyone bashes it and calls it a brick
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I completely agree- it is very annoying to hear people bash the g1 without even trying it out. So once we have a type-off I can completely dominate them. People need to stop being so obsessed with the size/thickness of a phone. Please people, build quality, and functionality is way more important.
As far as screen size, yea sometimes the smallness of the g1 bothers me. I am stoked to upgrade to a g2 soon though because its a wee bit bigger of a screen
I've adapted to those comments. As you well know, even as big as it is considered, the practicality of the G1 will still outweigh a large majority of phones being made now.
As much as I love it, it is an old phone and it does show. People are going to be more impressed by weight, immediate GUI interface and screen size than much else.
I've had my G1 for a little over two years now. I could've upgraded back in December but that was a very slow time for phone releases. All the fastest phones had been out a while and nothing good had been announced for the near future. As soon as I found out they were releasing the G2X I knew what phone I was going to buy. I loved the G1 for it's stock UI, the keyboard, trackball, and all the dev support it got/gets. I have been feeling that the G1 is not enough for me anymore with it's dated hardware and (sorry for bringing up size) relatively large size compared to current phones. This thing just looks like a dinosaur and feels like I'm riding a bicycle when everyone's driving Corvettes. I'm very picky about what I want in a phone now and honestly the only thing I think the G2x is missing for my own taste is a track ball/pad. But considering I'm going to a 4" screen from a 3.2" I know I won't have a problem. Also, I'm an Nvidia fanboy .
Yes, good point about the trackball. I looooove my trackball, it makes scrolling so painless. But I agree that its hardware is very much dinosauresque which is why I am looking to upgrade.
I think the G2 is one of the best bets... the only problem I have with it is how old the tech is considering duel-core phones are cutting edge now.
For me... I'm thinking of the HTC Sensation.

Vibrant is going, going, gone.......

Well what can I say, I bought the Vibrant last year in June, and it has been the worst phone I have ever owned......... After four replacements and constant lags, freezes, reboots, battery pulls, GPS working only 20% of the time, poor updates, sucky support from samsung (who I will never buy a product from again) I am finally moving on. I picked up a Sensation yesterday.
Not one lag or freeze and the gps works every time......whoooohoooooo
since I got it......this thing is fast and the signal strength is unbelievable. At my home I had to go outside to get 3G with the vibrant and this one gets 4G everywhere.
The rest will have to be determined.
It is my firm belief and opinion that Samsung built a dud with the galaxy class phones because of all the mods they did for the companies involved; Tmobile, Sprint, Verizon, etc. and stopped supporting these phones to cut their losses that they would incur if they kept supporting them.
I am off to the Sensation board and I bid you fair well.
Lol seems like your the only one with these problems only thing i can agree about is the GPS. I was going to get a sensation but I like having 16gb internal memory. And a 8GB SD that's just me though. Good luck on the sensation if your selling your vibrant ill buy it for 100
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Well what can I say, I bought the Vibrant last year in June, and it has been the worst phone I have ever owned......... After four replacements and constant lags, freezes, reboots, battery pulls, GPS working only 20% of the time, poor updates, sucky support from samsung (who I will never buy a product from again) I am finally moving on. I picked up a Sensation yesterday.
Not one lag or freeze and the gps works every time......whoooohoooooo
since I got it......this thing is fast and the signal strength is unbelievable. At my home I had to go outside to get 3G with the vibrant and this one gets 4G everywhere.
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4 replacements?! most times you get a replacement you only need one, i have never needed any replacing of any of my phones unless you count physically twisting the piece of **** in half. 4 replacements is out of this world, YOU are doing something wrong and bricking your phone. Learn how to read better, and you wont have that problem. You bought it last year in June so it's already a year old, Ofcourse your new phone is going to have better reception and technology, your phone was ancient the day you bought it.
It is my firm belief and opinion that Samsung built a dud with the galaxy class phones because of all the mods they did for the companies involved; Tmobile, Sprint, Verizon, etc. and stopped supporting these phones to cut their losses that they would incur if they kept supporting them.
I am off to the Sensation board and I bid you fair well.
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It is my firm belief you have no idea what you are talking about.
out the possible 100% you could have, 75% are totally happy with the SGS and have no issues. 20% are just absoloute morons who have no idea what they are doing and bricking there phones from rushing through or not reading. and there is 5% that are just unlucky and receive a phone that was destined for failure right from the factory.
Now we could count you in the 5% but seeing as youve broken 4 of your phones then your out of that category. Samsung has built an AMAZING phone with an AMAZING community behind it backing it up. Just because your another one of the clowns who cant pay attention to what your doing doesn't mean you need to make a thread starting s**t. Good, leave, dont let the door hit your ass on the way out. But a new phone isn't gonna help if your braindead, you'll just brick that one too.
I am fairly sure that a very few amount of people actually have your problems, and most are content with the Vibrant. So you basically created this thread to rub it in our faces that you got a better phone? Great, but you'll be regretting it when the Hercules kicks the Sensation's ass. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Oh, and enjoy your Sensation once it bites the dust due to HTC's terrible quality control.
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Lol seems like your the only one with these problems only thing i can agree about is the GPS. I was going to get a sensation but I like having 16gb internal memory. And a 8GB SD that's just me though. Good luck on the sensation if your selling your vibrant ill buy it for 100
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i wouldnt touch anything he's owned
I don't know what you are talking either...im pretty happy with my phone.
I just got an HTC Sensation yesterday, but I do miss my Vibrant. I think the Vibrant screen is superior. Sense is cool but it's overhyped. Give me Trigger any day Also, I hate that my bootloader is locked. The Vibrant is very easy to modify. I might keep my Vibrant as my backup until the SGS2 comes out in the States. That's the phone I want!
This thread was unnecessary.
On a serious note, OP is a ___.
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OP - you should post this in the Sensation forums.
That place is flooded with people *****ing about the Sensation.
Dust under screen, Data issues, lag, sound issues, death grip, and the currently locked bootloader...
And over here we have the GPS which can be fixed (extremely well, mind you) for $5 and a tweezer.
Thanks for the thread though. Good times.
You, my dear sir, just have a **** luck.
I've had my Vibrant for plenty of time and never got a single thing you mentioned, except GPS.
But I do not use GPS so I couldn't give two ****s.
Um.. Huh? Worst phone you ever owned? Really..? So you went to a phone that has many of the same issues the Vibrant had when it came out (things all new phone suffer from at first.. lets be honest) But its a dud in its self.. Only 1 gb of user space.. Less than a Gig of ram, and thats going to be a must soon.. watch.. Don't get me wrong its a nice device.. My wife has a G2 and i have sense 3.0 Gingerbread on it and its cool.. But the Sensation is anything but Sensational...
And every one *****es and moans about updates.. guys i hate to tell ya this but it didn't take any longer for the SGS phones to get froyo than other devices.. and now GB is leaking for the US phones.. so that really needs to be put to bed..
don't let the door hit you in your
Why do people make this type of post?
I'm fairly certain you won't be missed. Have you contributed anything to the community? Not that I have, but then again, I'm not going to make a childish farewell bragging on my new purchase.
It's not that the sensation is out of any of our reach, most of us could buy one right now. We CHOOSE not to.
Telling a bunch of people you don't know about what a great gadget you purchased.... Good for you buddy. Go call your mother and tell her how excited you are.
Had to post this xD
You must've had an extra early model since the Vibrant came out in July...if I remember correctly.
LoL learn to use your phone.
another case of user error :/...the vibrant is a phone for smart people, people who want to learn and read, this thing is almost unbrickable!! amazing screen, best single core GPU, 16gb of memory, I can keep going but I dont have enough time
Sense sucks and the screen (you know, that thing you stare at constantly) on the Vibrant is wayyyy better in a side-by-side comparison.
What if people like OP (four phone returns, really?) are the reason we don't have GB yet....
I own both and screen in sensation sucks it is washed out bleak, poor angles you cant see anything when outside
the size of the phones is same but sensation feels heavy in my pocket and vibrant is like piece of paper. 4" and 4.3" are almost same. I love vibrant
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OP sounds fat.

Nexus Prime Pictures Leaked: No onscreen buttons, 720p screen

http://m.androidcentral.com/first-nexus-prime-photo-leak-shows-buttonless-device-720p-display
Looks pretty slick. So excited for the Nexus Prime and Google event next week with Apple's event today being a total snooze
Interesting, thanks sir.
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http://m.androidcentral.com/first-nexus-prime-photo-leak-shows-buttonless-device-720p-display
Looks pretty slick. So excited for the Nexus Prime and Google event next week with Apple's event today being a total snooze
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U no likey the iphone ? LOL
Awesome. Very nearly iPhone 4 ppi on 4.6 inches and its SAMOLED AND its 720p. I really hope this leak is real cause I'm sold on the display alone. I only hope the next nexus doesn't do away with the sd card slot >_<
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Same. Super excited about the 720p screen. Considering my laptop is 15" and 1280x800 its quite astonishing how far screen technology evolved :\ Although apparently its still pentile but considering my Epic is already pentile I think I should be fine.
What I want:
1.5 GHz Dual Core (or even quad-core? maybe too early still)
10-12 MP Camera (There is an android phone expected to have a 12 MP camera soon, so it would be cool to see the NP have one)
720p display (which seems confirmed)
4.5-4.65" display (which is also likely)
BETTER BATTERY LIFE? (2000 mAh??!!?)
ICS will bring a huge update to the OS, but most likely UI which is cool
Anyone else agree?
Lol Galaxy S II already blows iPhone 4S out of the water:
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What I want:
1.5 GHz Dual Core (or even quad-core? maybe too early still)
10-12 MP Camera (There is an android phone expected to have a 12 MP camera soon, so it would be cool to see the NP have one)
720p display (which seems confirmed)
4.5-4.65" display (which is also likely)
BETTER BATTERY LIFE? (2000 mAh??!!?)
ICS will bring a huge update to the OS, but most likely UI which is cool
Anyone else agree?
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I would agree with this for the most part. I don't think we'll see a quad-core in this guy quite yet. As for the camera, MP is only a fraction of what makes a good camera. I personally believe the camera on the Epic is pretty rock solid for a phone.
I think once you get over a 4.5" screen, it's getting to be too big for a phone. I would like to see it no more than 4.5". However, even with the lack of buttons, I'm surprised at how much 'dead' space there is at the bottom of the phone. I figured without the buttons, they would be able to utilize about the whole front as the screen. They can put the carrier branding crap on the back.
Not only would I like to see a bigger capacity battery, but I'm guessing ICS probably has some good things in it which will improve batter life as it is.
If this thing comes to Sprint, it shall be my next phone, without question!
Yeah the biggest issue being Verizon will probably be the first to get it.... My upgrade is available yet I have to wait more... /firstworldproblems
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I would agree with this for the most part. I don't think we'll see a quad-core in this guy quite yet. As for the camera, MP is only a fraction of what makes a good camera. I personally believe the camera on the Epic is pretty rock solid for a phone.
I think once you get over a 4.5" screen, it's getting to be too big for a phone. I would like to see it no more than 4.5". However, even with the lack of buttons, I'm surprised at how much 'dead' space there is at the bottom of the phone. I figured without the buttons, they would be able to utilize about the whole front as the screen. They can put the carrier branding crap on the back.
Not only would I like to see a bigger capacity battery, but I'm guessing ICS probably has some good things in it which will improve batter life as it is.
If this thing comes to Sprint, it shall be my next phone, without question!
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Gotta agree, there is too much dead space there tha can be use with more screen, I was hoping for a longer screen :S
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I think the title should be changed to 1/2 a picture of the nexus prime leaked, not pictures...
Nexus Prime Teaser Video
http://youtu.be/oM9RO-GAKjE
OMG that thing extremely slim!! I want it!!
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Pic looks familiar..see Prime thread a page or two back.
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Woah! Now we can definitely expect an even more contour phone!
(Or maybe it's just my eye perceiving it wrong)
Ahhh! Best teaser video ever! That was some slick advertising. And omg...curved glass...mmmm
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Will someone please tell me where all these ridiculous rumors that Verizon will get any exclusivity on the next Nexus came from? Let's stack up the evidence:
1) Verizon to this date is the ONLY carrier who does not currently have even 1 Nexus phone.
2) Verizon actively refused these phones because they couldn't ruin them with bloat; a factor that has not changed.
2a. The Nexus phones aren't crazy big sellers and thus wouldn't change Verizon's decision, especially not enough to make them pay for exclusivity.
3) Google is crazy in bed with Sprint right now with Google Wallet and Google Voice being exclusive services currently.
4) Google just tricked the Nexus lines current customers into signing 2 year contracts with T Mobile and Sprint; why would they intentionally screw developers by making it so they can't get this Nexus device without an ETF?
Evidence FOR Verizon exclusivity:
1) the words "Droid" and "Prime" were once seen written on the same line of text? And there is absolutely no proof that that phone exists or is not just a bloated Nexus variant.
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Ahhh! Best teaser video ever! That was some slick advertising. And omg...curved glass...mmmm
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They seem to be sticking to the shape of the OG Nexus. Does anyone know if it will have no SD card slot and be all internal memory? I remember when people thought the OG Nexus would be dual core as well. I will wait for iron clad proof that its coming to Sprint and has at least a bigger battery and more powerful processor because that screen has got to use more battery
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@usf - I don't know all the answers to your questions, but here's where I see an almost problem:
3) Google is crazy in bed with Sprint right now with Google Wallet and Google Voice being exclusive services currently.
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This was true, until Sprint went and dumped $20B towards Apple. I really hope that didn't piss off Google too much. If I were getting cozy with someone and they went and did something like that, I would seriously have to reconsider my association/partnership with them.
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@usf - I don't know all the answers to your questions, but here's where I see an almost problem:
This was true, until Sprint went and dumped $20B towards Apple. I really hope that didn't piss off Google too much. If I were getting cozy with someone and they went and did something like that, I would seriously have to reconsider my association/partnership with them.
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And I would consider that compelling evidence against exclusivity on sprint as well. The decision for which carriers were getting this was made months ago and its unlikely that sprint was talking to google about buying the iphone all the way back then.
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Opinions on HTC Desire Z/G2

I'm looking to buy a Desire Z as a gift, and wanted to get some second opinions on the phone. Is the keyboard decent? What's the speed like? How sturdy is the keyboard hinge?
Also, is it fairly easy to root?
I've got an original Desire myself so if it's a roughly similar experience to that but with a keyboard then that'll be good.
Cheers
It's a great phone, 2nd Gen Snapdragon, Adreno 205 GPU...but it is also fairly late in it's life. The keyboard is great, and while people have differing opinions on the hinge, I haven't had any problems.
Just know that it doesn't hold a candle to the 1GB Ram/Dual Core beasts being released today.
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The hinge problem has been previously blown up, it is fine.
I couldn't imagine living and typing longer than an sms without a keyboard, I still love it and use it for longer input. If I was buying a phone now I probably could sacrifice the keyboard for a front camera or more CPU power or so. I could even buy a Desire S or a Sensation (just to be in this pricerange). Phones change quickly, quadband is here, I still love this phone.
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in my opinion its still a great phone... sure there are better ones out now rooting isn´t that easy, but not very hard too (if you know how to use adb, you are fine) If you are on 2.3+ it could happen that you need to create a goldcard while rooting...
...what rather concerns me right now is the fact that a lot of people seem to have a problem with a fried emmc chip.
here is a link to the wiki-guide for rooting (so you see how its done):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
Thanks. Dual core and that isn't a concern, the intended owner is not really fussed about those kind of things, having a keyboard is more important, and I trust HTC as a brand.
Have ordered one now.
h0kum said:
Thanks. Dual core and that isn't a concern, the intended owner is not really fussed about those kind of things, having a keyboard is more important, and I trust HTC as a brand.
Have ordered one now.
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You won't regret it! Great phone with great devs taking care of it
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Like everyone said is great options is not a bad phone every 3d games or apps i like is here. U can use hulu plus and netflix. Adobe flash player 11.
Gameloft hd games
Glu hd games
And other what not to like about this phone? lol
does hd recording 720 p.
It have best keyboard after g1.
in my opinion its still a great phone... sure there are better ones out now
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I sure wish you could NAME a better phone that is out now!
Remember, it must have the reliability, style, and expensive feel of the G2, must have a great hardware (real) keyboard and beautiful gorilla glass screen like G2, and must be root/developer friendly, have removable battery, and it must provide wifi calling in my weak signal area and free tethering and portable wifi hotspot, and do all of this for US$60/month no-contract service with unlimited 4G everything and no overage charges possible like my G2!
what better one ya got that does all of that?
that's right - NOTHING!
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I sure wish you could NAME a better phone that is out now!
Remember, it must have the reliability, style, and expensive feel of the G2, must have a great hardware (real) keyboard and beautiful gorilla glass screen like G2, and must be root/developer friendly, have removable battery, and it must provide wifi calling in my weak signal area and free tethering and portable wifi hotspot, and do all of this for US$60/month no-contract service with unlimited 4G everything and no overage charges possible like my G2!
what better one ya got that does all of that?
that's right - NOTHING!
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An iPhone
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An iPhone
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Ahah u can't be serious because the iphail contains none of the above..
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I concur, there is nothing else out there I could see me replacing it with at the moment. I need a hardware keyboard.. More ram and a faster CPU would be handy though... Refreshed DZ required
Great phone, and i will use this as long as it works. I'v had this about little over 11months now, no problems. Only thing is, screen has one frozen pixel in it, tough it's on the side, close to a corner so i barely even notice it, if i look for it, i can see it.
There is Motorola Droid 4 coming, sure looks nice whit that 5-row qwerty. If i would have waited a year longer to upgrade to smartphone world, id get it when it comes.
Now i'm planing on getting a tablet, to get the horsepower going on android. possibly transformer prime, or smth, wonder what CES brings to the table.
I love this phone! Sorry i got drifted to little off topic here.
I won't get another phone until there is a worthy successor. I would like to stick with HTC and I need a qwerty KB (well strongly prefer to have one) so here is hoping for a G3 sometime soon.
Until then though I still get great performance so no immediate rush.
There was also a Samsung qwerty slider I was reading about a while back, can't seem to find the article anymore.
Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens
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Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens
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yea this:
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spec: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i927_captivate_glide-4071.php
look awesome tho. its like galaxy s2+keyboard
hopefully Q1 2012..
Dell Hancock.
Google it.
ewww iphone unless u want to be locked. Even with android without rooting u still will not be lock as you are with iphone.
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I agree with flinny if they can refresh desire z 2 aka htc t-mobile g3 with stock in usa. I would love to have front face camera,1gb of ram i hate using my mirror to video chat. Get amoled screen back like nexus one. Add the hardware 5 key rows they had on g1 to g3 .
Hopefully stop selling to many damn Htc phone their selling about 10-15 device every year i wish they can stay with 3-5. Limited their work because then they make users like me hack my phone to get update, that they should be doing themselves. Instead of making excuses on why they cant update 1 device to the other.
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Yea Samsung captivate glide, looks pretty good actually got a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram... plus one of those beautiful Samsung screens
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Looked very interesting to me at first, but reviews have been far from stellar:
[URL="http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-captivate-glide-at/4505-6452_7-35033579.html?tag=mncol;rvwBody#reviewPage1"]http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/20/review-samsung-captivate-glide-att/[/URL]
Looks like cheap exterior build quality, and crappy flat keyboard. Nice screen, but hardware specs are merely ok compared to other high end phones currently being released. A Galaxy IIS spec phone with decent keyboard would be killer. But this ain't that.
Can't any manufacturers come out with a high-spec phone, with a decent keyboard?

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