Dual boot future - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
This is coming from a complete noob so please ignore my ignorance, but does anyone see the nexus 7 dual booting Jelly bean with Windows 8, Windows Phone 7, ICS or even iOS (bootdroid) in the future?

Umm why would you ever want ics on a device that released with jb? And windows/ios ports would be somewhat illegal plus you would run the risk of your n7 wanting to commit suicide... lol
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Windows 8, definitely not. That one requires an UEFI firmware with locked-down secure boot.

Windows 7 +8 for sure not.
Ubuntu will be possible in the future
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xopher.hunter said:
Umm why would you ever want ics on a device that released with jb? And windows/ios ports would be somewhat illegal plus you would run the risk of your n7 wanting to commit suicide... lol
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Lol thats like the people wanting a GB rom on the gnexus
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xopher.hunter said:
Umm why would you ever want ics on a device that released with jb? And windows/ios ports would be somewhat illegal plus you would run the risk of your n7 wanting to commit suicide... lol
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Being able to boot ICS & GB would be useful if you're a dev & want to test your app on different versions.

Kinda moot since the N7 will never have an official ICS... if you want to test multi-OS you can for less money get something like a Nook Color that has perfectly working CM7, (almost 100% working) CM9 and (in the works) CM10 which you can very easily set as multiboot. Testing any N7-specific features in ICS is useless.

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From GS3 to Galaxy Nexus back to Gs3

So I sold my GS3 for a Galaxy Nexus because I wanted to experience Jelly Bean. Well after a week I'm back and heres why.
1. Screen bigger and better
2. Camera much better
3.phone felt much snappier(although I wasn't on Jellybean)
4.volume much louder and crisp
5.GSM Nexus had no LTE and below standard HSpa+ never over 6 mbps
So if your in to specs I say the Gs3 is the place for you.
Also if buying the Nexus off craigslist make sure it's able to receive the update the one I bought was on the wrong radio and was told it would not which Is why I sold it too.
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Well, not to be bashful or anything, but I figured going with the GSIII was a given. Jelly Bean may be great, but it's not going to do anything to get the GNex up to GSIII standards. And no worries, GSIII will get it's fill of Jelly Bean goodness soon enough.
I had the galaxy nexus, I want on JB, I have no regrets switching.
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JB will come for GS3 soon enough
Love the nexus but sold it last week. Jelly bean will soon hit roms so not a huge loss and I'll definitely be picking up the new nexus when ever it comes out.
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Nickel Dime Bay said:
JB will come for GS3 soon enough
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No it won't. Official ics only just now rolled out for some sgs2 phones.The SDK was released in October of last year.
You might get some carrier leaks (buggy asz shiz) or cm10 (less buggy) but that will probably be many months.
nabbed said:
No it won't. Official ics only just now rolled out for some sgs2 phones.The SDK was released in October of last year.
You might get some carrier leaks (buggy asz shiz) or cm10 (less buggy) but that will probably be many months.
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Me personally I can wait, I never run stock and the amount or ROM's the international version has will keep me busy for a long time.
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We will be rocking cm10 in very little time.
Or at least beta of it.
Since pics to jellybean isn't a major overhaul. Like froyo to gingerbread or ginger to pics.
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humdrum2009 said:
We will be rocking cm10 in very little time.
Or at least beta of it.
Since pics to jellybean isn't a major overhaul. Like froyo to gingerbread or ginger to pics.
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Very little time = many months?
If you mean like a month or so, where do you come up with that bs?
The numbers speak clearly - look up froyo to gb, or gb to ics timeline.
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Very little time = many months?
If you mean like a month or so, where do you come up with that bs?
The numbers speak clearly - look up froyo to gb, or gb to ics timeline.
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Look up the change log and structure between those earlier android versions then go look at jelly bean compared to ics. Believe it or not the change isn't a complete overhaul, they meant for it to be that way.
Ps. there is already a beta jellybean on the international version, and we got cm9 and aokp within the first few weeks of the phone being out, the s3 is a whole nother beast compared to the s2
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mastarifla said:
Look up the change log and structure between those earlier android versions
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Enlighten me. Where can I find a "change log and structure" for Gingerbread/ICS and ICS/JB?
And how do those relate to programming an aosp rom?
Please.
nabbed said:
Enlighten me. Where can I find a "change log and structure" for Gingerbread/ICS and ICS/JB?
And how do those relate to programming an aosp rom?
Please.
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Here's a little info on what's being worked for CM10 if you haven't seen I already.
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/BMQiaHhSMte?hl=en
masaidjet said:
Here's a little info on what's being worked for CM10 if you haven't seen I already.
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/BMQiaHhSMte?hl=en
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I really wasn't interested, if you haven't guessed yet.
I was making a point about JB not being easily ported compared to ics or gb.
Im no dev but the majority of ICS porting applies to JB. Under the hood they are very similar. Google Now, the new voice software, and the triple buffering (kernel level stuff) are the major differences. Google now is an APK and the voice isn't requiring a lot of work either I'm sure.
If we don't have a fairly strong jb aosp in a month I would be surprised.
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I kept my GNex as my backup to my GSIII. Praying for some AOKP love over here in Verizon GSIII land, lol.
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I think it's pretty obvious that the jump from GB to ICS is what took so long. imagine trying to get all your current apps and data and customization to work with a new OS with zero hiccups and nothing lost. ICS is so completely different from GB, I'm not surprised it took so long. The jump to JB from ICS isn't nearly as large, as some people have pointed out. I'm banking on us getting it early Q4.
jbzcar said:
I kept my GNex as my backup to my GSIII. Praying for some AOKP love over here in Verizon GSIII land, lol.
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Ha ha right? The only thing that bothers me about the gnex is the screen and camera, the screen for some reason on my GS3 looks much better
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jgalan14 said:
Ha ha right? The only thing that bothers me about the gnex is the screen and camera, the screen for some reason on my GS3 looks much better
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Yup and it's spec wise not much bigger but the Gs3s screen just looks much nicer and bigger.
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CM 10 doesn't require a bunch of new drivers or official blobs from Samsung so it should be rewrite of code and implementing the apps and such. If the SGS III got AOSP ICS in weeks I'd say cm 10 might be weeks away from the point source was released. I'm not positive cause I'm not on a computer, but I think Steve Kondik (Cyanogen) has the SGS III for T-Mobile. I'm no where near a PC (just my phone til Monday)... if he is on the device as the main team member, we are looking at great nightlys and then some.
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mt3g said:
CM 10 doesn't require a bunch of new drivers or official blobs from Samsung so it should be rewrite of code and implementing the apps and such. If the SGS III got AOSP ICS in weeks I'd say cm 10 might be weeks away from the point source was released. I'm not positive cause I'm not on a computer, but I think Steve Kondik (Cyanogen) has the SGS III for T-Mobile. I'm no where near a PC (just my phone til Monday)... if he is on the device as the main team member, we are looking at great nightlys and then some.
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I agree he actually has post in the nightly build topic, so he most likely is working on it
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Nvidia,never again

Looks like all tegra ii phones will never take any ics update at all , all other phones already got it.
dont be silly , quit waiting for an update and buy a snapdragron chip
Why You say that?
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Why do you wait for ICS when there is Jelly Bean? ICS is obsolete.
What's a Tegra ii? Is it anything like a Tegra II?
Sent my Atrix that is faster than most phones
1) Motorola is working on ICS for the Atrix 4G... Why don't you look on Moto's forum ?
2) When ICS is released for the Atrix the ICS drivers will be used for JB
3) Stop raging and just be patient... I paid 300€ for a phone that kicks many more expansive phones, with a badass dock. I'm waiting for the ICS update, but you can fully enjoy it with a stock/Blur ROM.
The Photon, a Motorola phone with a Tegra 2 processor, has official ICS.
You are a troll.
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The Photon, a Motorola phone with a Tegra 2 processor, has official ICS.
You are a troll.
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No it doesn't
Its only scheduled for ICS in Q4 2012. If the Photon had official ICS, CM9 for our Atrix would be totally functional. Video recording, hardware acceleration. Everything would be working.
Sent from that Atrix.
daveschz said:
The Photon, a Motorola phone with a Tegra 2 processor, has official ICS.
You are a troll.
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Sauce, plz?
daveschz said:
The Photon, a Motorola phone with a Tegra 2 processor, has official ICS.
You are a troll.
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Get off the internet boy.
The nexus 7 tablet with its nvidia chips isn't stopping anyone from buying it either.
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daveschz said:
The Photon, a Motorola phone with a Tegra 2 processor, has official ICS.
You are a troll.
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The only troll here is you. The Photon's internals are nearly the same as the Atrix's, so if the Photon had ICS, then we would have full CM9.
no trol amymore
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razr had official ICS and it runs on TEGRA 2
nathan96 said:
razr had official ICS and it runs on TEGRA 2
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No, that uses the TI OMAP.
In other news, even though I swore to never buy a Tegra device ever again, I got a Nexus 7 last month. And I love it.
There is a driver pack from nvidia but it only working for 3.xxxx kernel. So now we are waiting for Motorola.
Do not blame nvidia
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Look at my signature. This ROM has all the features my Nexus 7 has. I can do everythingJB has to offer except camcorder and there is a work around for that. I'm not a huge fan of the fingerprint sensor or webtop and I do not film with my phone.
Once you try JB it is very hard to go back to any previous Android OS. So, even if ICS gets officially released, I will not go back to any ICS based ROMs. I really hope whatever the devs can scavenge out of this official firmware can be used to make JB based ROMs even better.
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Soldier-2Point0 said:
Once you try JB it is very hard to go back to any previous Android OS.
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Not necessarily.
Today I installed CM10 because I had to do some testing. I did a nandroid backup of my current setup (CM7.2-based) and I did a restore as soon as I was done testing. Don't get me wrong, everything worked fine, I think it was just a too big of a leap for me and I didn't feel comfortable on it as I do on a GB ROM. So yeah, just like everybody else I'm also waiting and hoping there will be an official ICS release, but I definitely won't be the first one to jump to it.
Sorry for off-topic.
Soldier-2Point0 said:
Once you try JB it is very hard to go back to any previous Android OS. So, even if ICS gets officially released, I will not go back to any ICS based ROMs. I really hope whatever the devs can scavenge out of this official firmware can be used to make JB based ROMs even better.
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Agreed
Im still Hopefull sooner or Later we will
have an update i Mean heck motorola wouldnt put it on there website if it was A *Mabe kinda thing thats Just opening them up for A Crapload of returned devices and Lawsuits for False Advertising so kick back in ya pc chair
with ya Favorite Beverage ....:beer:
and Chill , it will come ....in Time
Signed,
Hopefull in Calli...
Deggy said:
Get off the internet boy.
The nexus 7 tablet with its nvidia chips isn't stopping anyone from buying it either.
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its stoping me from getting a nexus 7 thats for sure
ofteno said:
its stoping me from getting a nexus 7 thats for sure
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Nexus 7 is Google's first tablet. I doubt Nvidia would mess up a potentially long term relationship.
Off topic: You haven't tasted JB until you use it on this quad core GPU tablet! Magnificent device!
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My porting log - MIUI Gtab 2 7.0

Hello all of you!
This is my humble attempt in porting MIUI 4 to the TAB 2 7.0
This will be a log with entries every time progress is made
Base will be CM9 official, and I will port from the Nexus 7 MIUI 4. release
20. August 23:15 GMT +1 : Initial work started, getting a lookaraond whats in there. Porting files starts tomorrow after i return from school
21.August 18.38 GMT +1: /System almost fully ported, exept the updater-script
27.aug: fully ported, but does not flash
We should coloborate. wouldn't it make more sense to port from GNexus? CPU/GPU is more similar than Nexus 7.
Or is this something that's hardware independent?
Wanna take a peek at my current build? Doesn't boot, but also doesn't fail to install. Pretty sure I've only got buildprop errors to correct.
Shouldn't matter as much which one basing on, as if it is aosp not much change is needed either way.
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And with nexus 7, de do not need to resize so much
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OP updated, /system almost fully ported! If this works, im gonna need testers!
Great initiative. But I would be more interested in Jelly Bean
silentvisitor said:
Great initiative. But I would be more interested in Jelly Bean
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It is jelly bean, i typed wrong in OP
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InfinityFTW said:
It is jelly bean, i typed wrong in OP
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WOW WOW WOW...................................
Does MIUI has a Tablet UI ? Never saw MIUI on any Tablet though.
May God bless you !
Plz dont make it only for P3110 or P3113. We, P3100 users are also your friends Aren't we
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WOW WOW WOW...................................
Does MIUI has a Tablet UI ? Never saw MIUI on any Tablet though.
May God bless you !
Plz dont make it only for P3110 or P3113. We, P3100 users are also your friends Aren't we
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It does not have tablet ui, in the nexus 7 miui it is running on phone mode, like cm10
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Is there anyway to force a 8x8 or 6x6 icon mode through miui framework or something? We could mess with the LCD density all too.
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stelv said:
Is there anyway to force a 8x8 or 6x6 icon mode through miui framework or something? We could mess with the LCD density all too.
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The launcher app can be modded to support more icon grids. I've seen this done on phones.
silentmelodies said:
The launcher app can be modded to support more icon grids. I've seen this done on phones.
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Good to know. Hopefully this can be implemented then.
InfinityFTW said:
It does not have tablet ui, in the nexus 7 miui it is running on phone mode, like cm10
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Actually, I can't say for now, but it DID have tablet UI. Was running it on my Kindle Fire. ICS that is.
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Tablet ui on kindle fire
Btw will the new "Free launcher" which comes with miui jellybean work on this build? It's awesome!
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Tablet ui on kindle fire
Btw will the new "Free launcher" which comes with miui jellybean work on this build? It's awesome!
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Coool.............
Anybody testing ?
I will make the updater script tomorrow. If you have a P3113 and wish to test, PM me
I have a tester, building the ROM now!
I can test too but cant til later tomorrow or Sunday. Let me know if you need another tester.
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Too bad I've got a P3100, otherwise I'd really like to test. Curious though, once you've got a build up and running, will you also support the other P3xx variants?
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Too bad I've got a P3100, otherwise I'd really like to test. Curious though, once you've got a build up and running, will you also support the other P3xx variants?
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Yes, sir, yes!

Ubuntu Touch for the TF300 - Possibly a BOUNTY?

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess
I would happily throw any dev 20 bucks that could get this going, looks really interesting. Anyone else interested in this yet?
I'd be interested as well
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That would be really awsome!
don't know 'bout 20 but 10 for sure, 100%
I am currently working on this I will report back soon
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keeganmccallum said:
I am currently working on this I will report back soon
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Good luck
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keeganmccallum said:
I am currently working on this I will report back soon
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Also working on it. Can boot fine and get in via adb, but screen stays black.
Are you interested in joining efforts? Please feel free to PM me, if you are.
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You guys working on a dual boot method or a port replacing android?
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msd24200 said:
You guys working on a dual boot method or a port replacing android?
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Well, one step at a time. First get it to work, then dual boot is the next step.
Finally, it might be possible to run them "together", for example running CM apps in Ubuntu Touch.
I mean by transforming the base Android system into a fully-fledged CM and connect it up to Ubuntu.
Not sure that is feasible yet, but there might be a chance. And it is sure a while down the road.
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I don't think that's possible because none of the Java code is in Ubuntu mobile.
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I don't think that's possible because none of the Java code is in Ubuntu mobile.
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Well, not now. Once we have achieved dual boot, all the Java code will be back there.
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Really disappointed that it's only a "skin" on top of CM10.1, proper ubuntu is what we need, to actually run linux apps but still, every advancement is positive but I'm not interested in another android port, I like jelly bean as it is, AOSP ftw.
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Really disappointed that it's only a "skin" on top of CM10.1, proper ubuntu is what we need, to actually run linux apps but still, every advancement is positive but I'm not interested in another android port, I like jelly bean as it is, AOSP ftw.
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It's not running on top of CM10.1 is running on top of the CM10.1 kernel (and some drivers for the hardware) and I wouldn't say it's fair to call that a "skin". That's like calling every linux distro a linux skin.
true, my frasing is wrong but it doesn't change the fact that it's not capable of running linux apps, it's just another take on android, and on a tablet such as this I'd love to be able to dual-boot into android/linux, let's see where archlinux will take us but with the way things are changing and people upgrading to newer devices this will be left behind as well eventually, and to think that since the first quad core device a year ago today we call the tegra 3 a low-powered chipset compared to the powerhouses coming out, and people still don't have a quad core cpu at their home pcs and laptops, anyway, offtopic, let's see...
as far as I heard from many different people now it is just something to show the skin as main features like wallpaper, rotation and others aren't working yet although they should... Basically I would prefer a dualboot solution with stock ubuntu and android, but just my personal opinion...

[Q] ics for nexus 4?

I'M wondering is it possible for a dev to make an ice cream rom based off 4.1 not 4.2. I really liked that a little better in my opinion. My imobster game just isn't the same on jelleybean as it was on ice cream. any thoughts?
I can't for the life of me think of why you would want ICS over jb but I think your luck is probably out. As I really can't see a dev taking the time to make a worse ROM. Sorry! Are you sure your game just hasn't been optimised for the n4?
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I can't for the life of me think of why you would want ICS over jb but I think your luck is probably out. As I really can't see a dev taking the time to make a worse ROM. Sorry! Are you sure your game just hasn't been optimised for the n4?
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I feels you dude.
I saw this post hours ago but I didn't even know how to respond to this. Lol
The only thing I could think of was the application itself was performing badly.
Not to mention that 4.1 is jelly bean and not I've cream sandwich
OP bought a future phone and yet he wants run something from the past . Do not expect any ICS ports for N4. That imobster game is something...
ics
Thanks for informing me I kinda figured it wasn't possible. Now don't get me wrong 4.2 is an awesome OS but I play this game imobster and we have a thing we call spam attack when you can attack someone 10 in one sec and JB just will not let me do that so I'm still playing it on my HTC ice cream based ROM but I take my nexus 4 with me too and just change sim cards back and forth. Lol I've flashed every ROM the N4 has I think and I just can't find one that suits the need of the game.I'm a nexus junkie and a imobster junkie and have owned the first one through the last one well I still own nexus one but got rid of the other ones until N4 came along but I just wish storm8 the maker of the game would optimize it for jellybean. Thanks all. Anymore ROM suggestions?
There's probably a way with a lg optimus conversion.. but it's a bit of a brick risk
This is the most hardcore hipster request I've ever seen on XDA.
Now if what you're really after is just the look of ICS, there are CM themes that do that pretty well.
Maybe try a Galaxy nexus ICS ROM with a N4 kernel? Not sure if that will work but if you make a nandroid I'm sure you will be fine
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Tom540 said:
Maybe try a Galaxy nexus ICS ROM with a N4 kernel? Not sure if that will work but if you make a nandroid I'm sure you will be fine
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Lol. He's gonna have a bricked phone. Apples and oranges.
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there's an unofficial aokp release here http://aokp.co/supported-devices/?id=54&device=mako but I have no idea how it'll run
There's nothing wrong with OP.. I want to run Android Cupcake on my Nexus 4. Get back to the old days.
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There's probably a way with a lg optimus conversion.. but it's a bit of a brick risk
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The conversion is Optimus --> N4. Not the other way around.
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This is the most hardcore hipster request I've ever seen on XDA.
Now if what you're really after is just the look of ICS, there are CM themes that do that pretty well.
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ICS and JB are 99% identical in terms of looks. Someone on the Galaxy Nexus forums asked for Gingerbread once.
Tom540 said:
Maybe try a Galaxy nexus ICS ROM with a N4 kernel? Not sure if that will work but if you make a nandroid I'm sure you will be fine
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NO. You should NEVER flash something ROM or Kernel related that's not for your device.
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