Hello!
Just got my Nexus 10 and I tried to connect the Mirco-HDMI out to my LG 42LD420 tv.
However, screen is all black and nothing happens. When I connect to my new PC screen HDMI port the image is mirrored instantly and it just works...
So I guess theres some new standards in Micro-HDMI that my TV doesn't support?
Just wanna clear this problem by making sure its my tv. And btw, other devices works just fine on the tv HDMI port...
Thanks for any info.
Simon
Whenever HDMI has problems it's usually HDCP that is the culprit.
Thanks! Googled some about it and I realize the problem New TV then I guess or try with some adapters to analog input...
I just ran into this the other day myself with a Samsung TV. I thought maybe it was the TV was only capable of 720p or something...
I'd get sound through from the N10, no picture though.
Also tried an MHL cable with my GNex and nothing as well.
Both devices work no problem on either of my PC monitors, and the PS3 has no problem with that cable/port on the TV.
Are there any workarounds?
My quick search indicates that it's possible that it can be cable specific? ie. Will work for some devices but not others? Does that even make sense?
Does anyone have experience running ethernet to microusb on android devices? i really want the nexus player but no ethernet is an absolute deal killer for me. i dont believe in streaming 1080p video over wifi. i know it only has usb 2.0 but that should support up to 480mb/s theoretically. perhaps using a device like this: http://www.amazon.com/Smays-Etherne...3460191&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+usb+to+ethernet
I agree.
I would love to buy one of these, but my AP is upstairs above my living room and I do not get the best WiFi at my entertainment center. I have a range extender downstairs, but it is at the other end of the house.
My ChromeCast often stutters (or just won't work) on anything more than 480p Video.
But I do have Gigabit Ethernet wired to a switch at my entertainment center.
I use USB Ethernet adapters with Android HDMI sticks all the time. The Android Sticks have either full Size USB, an Ethernet Connection, or I use an OTG cable.
I would think that the OTG cable and USB Ethernet adapter would work with the Nexus Player, unless they specifically took the drivers out. Common or Generic chipset USB Ethernet Drivers seem to be pretty well supported in most Android Firmwares.
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Sorry to double post, but if you are wondering how a USB Ethernet adapter would be connected to a Nexus Player, you would just need one of these:
http://www.dx.com/p/cy-u2-166-usb-f...-adapter-cable-black-15cm-205901#.VD_RJLYXw3A
A hacked USB Travel Hub can also be used.
thanks, i think i have a spare otg cable laying around somewhere. my only question is does the micro usb on the player get used for power or for plugging in peripheral devices such as the ethernet adapter?
thecrunked said:
thanks, i think i have a spare otg cable laying around somewhere. my only question is does the micro usb on the player get used for power or for plugging in peripheral devices such as the ethernet adapter?
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I don't have any inside information, but as far as I can see, it is powered through the micro USB. (Just like ChromeCast).
That is why you would need a cable like the one I linked to. Notice that it has a separate micro USB female for Power only.
Note also that there is another post in this forum "What Nexus Player won't Do", and Ethernet is not mentioned as removed in that list, so that may give some hope that it is in there.
The settings menus would also have to know how to allow you to configure the new network interface.
ChromeCast (stock ROM) does not support USB Ethernet, but of course the ChromeCast is a much simpler, no-UI device.
We will just have to wait until they are in peoples hands.
Frankly, I have to say that I am out. There are many good Android Set-top boxes out there that have a full selection of ports, possibly better processors, and are cheaper.
By the time you buy the Nexus Player, a wireless keyboard (which you are going to want), the game controller, USB adapters, and Ethernet dongle, you are going to be in the $200 range, and you are going to have a mess of wires and adapters -- No thanks.
I'll "stick" with my "stick", or upgrade to a newer Chinese Android STB that has a decent processor and all the ports.
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I don't have any inside information, but as far as I can see, it is powered through the micro USB. (Just like ChromeCast).
That is why you would need a cable like the one I linked to. Notice that it has a separate micro USB female for Power only.
Note also that there is another post in this forum "What Nexus Player won't Do", and Ethernet is not mentioned as removed in that list, so that may give some hope that it is in there.
The settings menus would also have to know how to allow you to configure the new network interface.
ChromeCast (stock ROM) does not support USB Ethernet, but of course the ChromeCast is a much simpler, no-UI device.
We will just have to wait until they are in peoples hands.
Frankly, I have to say that I am out. There are many good Android Set-top boxes out there that have a full selection of ports, possibly better processors, and are cheaper.
By the time you buy the Nexus Player, a wireless keyboard (which you are going to want), the game controller, USB adapters, and Ethernet dongle, you are going to be in the $200 range, and you are going to have a mess of wires and adapters -- No thanks.
I'll "stick" with my "stick", or upgrade to a newer Chinese Android STB that has a decent processor and all the ports.
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yah i might just pick up the amazon fire tv. the only thing i am gonna use it for is xbmc/kodi and plex. maybe some youtube, netflix, and light web browsing if that.
Since it is relevant to this thread (at least a bit), I'm going to go ahead and post a link to an article on my website:
http://linuxslate.com/Guide_Android_Stick_TV_Box.html
I am NOT trying to dissuade anybody from buying the Nexus player. If you have good wifi and you don't want the headaches associated with a Chinese media player, the Nexus Player is an excellent choice.
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thanks, i think i have a spare otg cable laying around somewhere. my only question is does the micro usb on the player get used for power or for plugging in peripheral devices such as the ethernet adapter?
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The official page says:
18W DC power
HDMI out ([email protected])
Micro-USB 2.0
So that's a separate power jack, and then USB for OTG or firmware updates or whatever.
Note that you don't want to get too new of a dongle, because if this doesn't have the absolute latest Linux kernel it might not support some of the newer gigabit dongles.
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Does anyone have experience running ethernet to microusb on android devices? i really want the nexus player but no ethernet is an absolute deal killer for me. i dont believe in streaming 1080p video over wifi. i know it only has usb 2.0 but that should support up to 480mb/s theoretically. perhaps using a device like this: http://www.amazon.com/Smays-Etherne...3460191&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+usb+to+ethernet
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I can stream 1080p @ full Blu-Ray bitrate no problem..the problem is not the technology but likely your implementation. Also USB2 is limited to 256mb/s after overhead is subtracted. Thats far less than 802.11AC can do, I get a 890mb connection with a $15 .AC adapter on one of my PC's.
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I agree.
I would love to buy one of these, but my AP is upstairs above my living room and I do not get the best WiFi at my entertainment center. I have a range extender downstairs, but it is at the other end of the house.
My ChromeCast often stutters (or just won't work) on anything more than 480p Video.
But I do have Gigabit Ethernet wired to a switch at my entertainment center.
A hacked USB Travel Hub can also be used.
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If you have a lan drop and switch at your Entertainment center then your highest performance option is to add a access point to that switch, not to use a USB>Ethernet.
thecrunked said:
yah i might just pick up the amazon fire tv. the only thing i am gonna use it for is xbmc/kodi and plex. maybe some youtube, netflix, and light web browsing if that.
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I'm thinking about trying out the NexusPlayer to replace our FireTV...the FireTV is pretty great but its buggy and nobody seems to be trying to fix the bugs. Hulu loves to crash and has various other playback problems that we experience more than once a day (simply stops playing, or freezes, sometimes after a commercial the screen just goes black with a network logo[like ABC] but the audio is playing), Netflix also occasionally crashes back to the FireTV homescreen, Plex works ok sometimes but has trouble others, the plus is that it has Wifi+Ethernet+Optical. We previously had a Roku3 which was turtle slow compared to the FireTV. I should add that these bugs are widespread and common to many people, these are not issues limited to me or just a few people.
sluflyer06;
I do nit disagree with anything you are saying, however:
I do not see the point of having a wireless AP right next to ever node on my network.
Doesn't that make the "wireless " part nonsensical?.
2nd, I have Gigabit USB Ethernet adapters that use USB 3.0.
Linuxslate said:
sluflyer06;
I do nit disagree with anything you are saying, however:
I do not see the point of having a wireless AP right next to ever node on my network.
Doesn't that make the "wireless " part nonsensical?.
2nd, I have Gigabit USB Ethernet adapters that use USB 3.0.
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Well if your wireless is weak in that area, wouldn't a AP there benefit your other devices (laptops, tablets, phones?)? I agree that you don't NEED a acesspoint at every drop but we will always have a signifigant # of devices that cannot be wired these days so if you happen to have a drop in a room or area with weak WiFi it seems like the perfect opportunity to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Also in regards to your USB3 adapter, it won't do you any good with the NexusPlayer because it only has a USB2.0 port...still not a restriction for video though...265 is way above even the highest bitrate blu-ray.
Quite shocked that:
It's not USB 3.0 OTG
That it doesn't have Ethernet at all, maybe a limitation of the Intel SoC? I know the Snapdragon 805 and friends have USB 3.0 OTG...
I wonder how the Intel SoC will play out. Intel is late to this party...
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Quite shocked that:
It's not USB 3.0 OTG
That it doesn't have Ethernet at all, maybe a limitation of the Intel SoC? I know the Snapdragon 805 and friends have USB 3.0 OTG...
I wonder how the Intel SoC will play out. Intel is late to this party...
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The ARK page (Intel's CPU library) shows USB 3.0 (and up to 4GB of RAM, while we're at it). Maybe it's a cost thing? No Ethernet is likely the same story. "If you really need it, get a dongle" they'd might say.
Everything about this box seems like Google is targeting it as a lowest-common-denominator device. Being Nexus, it's still somewhat of a developer device. "Make sure your apps can run on this, and you'll be good everywhere." Actually, that's possibly a big part of why the first Android TV device has an Intel chip. Force developers to start supporting x86, and then the TV manufacturers can put any chip they'd like into their TV.
Plus, this lets Google sell it for cheap, and then if other manufacturers want to come along and put together some Android TV luxury box with HDMI in and a USB 3 hub and 4 GB RAM and an eSATA port, go ahead.
An ethernet to USB adapter that worked
Just thought I would share a solution that worked for me.
I live in an apartment building in Manhattan that has a few hundred units and four other similarly sized buildings all within 100 yards plus a muli-plex movie house in even closer proximity.
I have a top-rated AC router and have run wi-fi analyzers to select the least crowded (and non-overlapping) 2.4 and 5 Ghz channels. 2.4 Ghz is essentially useless for streaming multimedia. Even with the 5 Ghz channel, casting music involves several buffering time-outs each minute.
Knew I had to go the USB to ethernet cable adapter route:
- first, I tried a too good-to-be true low-priced adapter on eBay. When plugged into the NP, an internal red LED light shined brightly through the white housing (almost like a Christmas light), but nothing.
- second, I tried a gigabyte adapter that stated in its product description that it was compatible out-of-the box with the NP. Bought it from directly from the vendor on Amazon. Came in brand new packaging and the adapter (plus included dongle cable, disc and instructions) all top-notch. Everything shouted quality compared to the first adapter ... but it also didn't work for me. I hoped it would and I hope it works for others who buy it. Just couldn't figure out why it wouldn't work for me. I tried what others suggested about unplugging the NP and rebooting the device to the root screen (holding the button on the bottom while powering and going through the menus). Also tried it with a PC. I just don't know what I did or didn't do right or why otherwise it wouldn't work.
- third, I looked at the pictures on the Internet depicting actual working adapters with the NP. Saw it was a SMC adapter. Then in a Reddit, I saw the model number mentioned. It is the: SMC Networks SMC2209USB/ETH 10/100 Mbps USB Ethernet Adapter. Bought it for $25 dollars on Amazon (see: amazon.com/gp/product/B00009967F/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1).
Worked right out of the box! Just plugged it in (it evens comes with its own dongle cable).
One thing I realized from this, what people suggest "should" work with the NP and what IN ACTUAL FACT have been tested personally to work are different. I'm not a paid endorser of any company's products. I hope others share product names and model numbers of other adapters that they know from personal experience to also work out-of-the-box.
And as far as the buffering problems I had -- gone. The NP is actually usable now for multimedia content. I sure hope Google includes an Ethernet port when it comes out with a second generation NP.
dynadock?
Just wondering if anyone had tried something like a toshiba dynadock?
its powered, has multiple usb ports and ethernet! Would be great if it worked as i have access to them!:fingers-crossed:
natedogg118 said:
Just wondering if anyone had tried something like a toshiba dynadock?
its powered, has multiple usb ports and ethernet! Would be great if it worked as i have access to them!:fingers-crossed:
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Thank you for the brilliant idea. I happen to have a Toshibe Dynadock V2. Plugged it in and ethernet came straight up in the settings. I guess we can add this to the list of devices that work.
Yes, Attaching a OTC cable to USB Ethernet Adapter totally works for me! I can see the connection made in the network settings (ip address and domain connection under "Ethernet").
pliz help
Same issue here.
Nexus Player OTG usb is completely disabled.
No mouse, keyboard, Rii or Flash drive 2.0 or 3.0 ...
Nada, null, running Oreo 8.0
I recently purchased the OTG cable on amazon, the first result/best selling $7... No lights come up on the usbs or any form of power going through. While ADB works fine
I'm desperate so I will root it but how to fix with root?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LLUEJFU/
This ethernet/USB thing has worked great on my nexus player. Connected an SSD, put my HD Homerun on the same wired LAN, it's a great little DVR/timeshifting box.
MrCalico said:
Yes, Attaching a OTC cable to USB Ethernet Adapter totally works for me! I can see the connection made in the network settings (ip address and domain connection under "Ethernet").
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I managed to get it working too
Working fine here too. I have a USB ethernet hub connected by OTG cable.
Use it for wired internet and USB mouse.
Hey guys,
I received today my MHL adpater
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171436891054?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
The signal to the TV is working fine.
My problem is when I'm connecting devices to the USB host port, there is a power over there but my phone not responding, while those devices are working with a simple OTG cable.
Some help over here?
orenzah said:
Hey guys,
I received today my MHL adpater
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171436891054?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
The signal to the TV is working fine.
My problem is when I'm connecting devices to the USB host port, there is a power over there but my phone not responding, while those devices are working with a simple OTG cable.
Some help over here?
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I have been looking for the same thing, an MHL - OTG - charging dock/adapter/dongle, I have not found anything that people report as working reliably on the S5 (I am also looking for one to work with a Note 10.1 2014).
Have you tried to connect a power supply on the micrUSB port? I have a MHL adapter and it needs external power.
gduong128 said:
Have you tried to connect a power supply on the micrUSB port? I have a MHL adapter and it needs external power.
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Yes, I did.
I even tried connecting a USB hub and I saw there is a power from the USB Host.
Please give me a link for what you're using a direct link to eBay item.
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There is a chance that will work?
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=271442517207&globalID=EBAY-DE&alt=web
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I'm not using a OTG MHL, just plain MHL adapter like this:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2M-MHL-Micro...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3a9580fffb
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I'm not using a OTG MHL, just plain MHL adapter like this:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2M-MHL-Micro...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3a9580fffb
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The HDMI link is working for me.
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I was under the impression you can either use mhl or otg. Not both at the same time. You tried just using the thumb drive by itself without the hdmi plugged in?
anyone had luck finding an adapter allowing you to use hdmi alongside otg?
anyone found an adapter than can do hdmi and usb host at the same time??? there seem to have plenty for s4 but nothing for s5?? although s5 is using a newer and more capable mhl if i am not wrong
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251604742937?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
i received this one
it works well at same time as otg and hdmi
i am just not satisfied with the quality of the hdmi output.
Purplys said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251604742937?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
i received this one
it works well at same time as otg and hdmi
i am just not satisfied with the quality of the hdmi output.
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thx for the reply..what's wrong with the hdmi output? Isn't the output same as a standalone hdmi mhl apdater?
yeahman45 said:
thx for the reply..what's wrong with the hdmi output? Isn't the output same as a standalone hdmi mhl apdater?
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i meant the image quality,to just watch and control your device its ok,to watch a 720p movie its not ok,video will be blur sometimes and it will be a little delay at sound.
few days ago i used a friends standalone hdmi adapter was performing amazing even at 1080p.
it is very nice thank you very much
Purplys said:
i meant the image quality,to just watch and control your device its ok,to watch a 720p movie its not ok,video will be blur sometimes and it will be a little delay at sound.
few days ago i used a friends standalone hdmi adapter was performing amazing even at 1080p.
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I got that hdmi connection kit and it works great with my S3 doing hdmi 1080p and otg simultaneous + charging. But with my S5 it will only do hdmi 720p or otg not both. Image quality is poor on the monitor but great on the HD TV.
Maybe "Display Link" is the way to go to get wired screen mirroring and otg at the same time on the S5?
I gather the Zenfone 2 has MHL capability - high definition video and audio (up to 7 channels) output to HDMI via a USB MHL cable/adapter. Has anyone tried connecting to a TV by this method?
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I gather the Zenfone 2 has MHL capability - high definition video and audio (up to 7 channels) output to HDMI via a USB MHL cable/adapter. Has anyone tried connecting to a TV by this method?
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GSMArena says that it did have MHL, but everyone who has tried had not gotten it to work, so I'd say it doesn't have it.
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Good job I didn't buy an HML adapter I saw yesterday then
I tried to compile in Moorefield's HDMI into my kernel for fun the other day; not so great.
Phone booted up, but said that there was an hdmi connection ( without connecting anything ) and started overheating fast.
I'm guessing that there might be an hdmi connection on the board somewhere that connects to the microUSB bus, but it's soldered/jumpered over.
ycavan said:
I tried to compile in Moorefield's HDMI into my kernel for fun the other day; not so great.
Phone booted up, but said that there was an hdmi connection ( without connecting anything ) and started overheating fast.
I'm guessing that there might be an hdmi connection on the board somewhere that connects to the microUSB bus, but it's soldered/jumpered over.
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I think, it's full-featured HDMI connector reserved on SoC (in case if used in Android TV dongle), not MHL.
There is Intel WiDi wifi display service integrated in the Rom. How can we use that for wireless display to a pc or android/smart tv?
Mhl didn't work, tested and asked in zentalk, online chat support and in xda..
But i seen an apk with name hdmi don't know what it is for