Move aside, Apple Retina Display – here come 350ppi OLED screens from Samsung
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Android fans have a long list of bragging material when comparing devices with Apple’s. There is one factor we haven’t quite been able to beat, though – Retina Display. But we all know the day when we can also silence Apple fanboys in this department is coming eventually, and it may be sooner than you think. Samsung may be able to bring this technology’s pixel density, along with the advantages of OLED panels, to upcoming Android devices.
With the development of FMM (Fine Metal Mask), Samsung is said to be able to achieve an OLED pixel density of up to 350 ppi (pixels per inch). Currently, such high-density pixelation can only be achieved by with LCD mobile displays. And even though we have devices like the Galaxy Nexus, which does have a 720p AMOLED display, the crispness and clarity can never match that of the HTC One X or Apple’s Retina Display (due to its need of a pentile display).
Mixing the colors of Super AMOLED displays with the non-pentile pixel-density of LCD would be a dream. The difference would mostly be noticed in small text, which is actually pretty crisp in AMOLED HD displays. But does it match HD LCD? Definitely not.
Long story-short: this technology is said to be easily applicable to current OLED technology. This makes it inexpensive and simple to start manufacturing such OLED displays, and we might be seeing them in upcoming Samsung devices rather soon.
Maybe -- we might see this in NOTE 2 :good::highfive::good:
source : phandroid
Remember that super high resolution display I told you guys Samsung was working on?
Well, it may not have quite the same ppi, Samsung is getting ready to release an 11.8-inch tablet with "Retina-like" screen resolution. Prepare yourself...
The Apple vs Samsung trial has already uncovered a few buried nuggets from Apple’s camp, revealing early iPad prototypes that never made it into production. Today, with the Apple vs Samsung trial kicking off in full effect, court docs are giving us details on tablets coming down the pipeline, this time from Samsung.
Looks like ‘ol Sammy is prepping a tablet codenamed the “P10,” and it’s claim to fame will no doubt be its 256 ppi, 2560×1600 super high resolution Retina-like display. It will be interesting to see how Android will handle a resolution higher than 1080p (I’m wondering if things will look stretched out like in Android’s pre-tablet days).
Court docs don’t reveal too much in terms of a release date, citing only a vague 2012 launch. It’s possible Samsung could be announce the P10 during their launch event on August 15th — they did mention something about a new Galaxy — but I’m still placing my bets on a Note 2 unveiling. How do you guys feel about an Android tablet, of this size, with that high of a resolution. Excessive? We’re gonna need a bigger gun- er, better processor.
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http://phandroid.com/2011/10/04/leak-is-this-the-nexus-prime/
I know you’ve seen that thread title before. We’ve posed the question for at least two different renders now but later found those to be fake. So here it is again – is this the Nexus Prime As you can tell, it has a 720p HD display (it’s more like 1180×720, but who’s keeping score?) and has software buttons on the bottom, an optional feature in Ice Cream Sandwich for OEMs who don’t want to include hardware navigation buttons on their devices. DPI also sits at a cool 320 and unfortunately sources are hearing this may be a 4.3 inch device.
The Nexus Prime is rumored to be the first Ice Cream Sandwich device and will reportedly have a 4.5 inch – 5 inch display with the resolution mentioned above as well as a dual-core processor (we’re betting on the TI OMAP4 variety but wouldn’t be surprised – or mad – to see Exynos inside). We are awfully close to Samsung and Google’s October 11th event in San Diego so hopefully more of these leaks trickle out leading up to that. [GSMArena]
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4.3" seems to be a typo that people are slowly correcting (first person to post this was GSMArena, they had it at 4.3" in the article, but 4.6" in the title, and it has since changed) Also, further speculation shows that the on screen buttons make up for the rest of the pixels (so it truly is 720p) . I believe it is real, and can't wait for it
Its basically 4.3" if you don't count the onscreen buttons as apart of the screen, 4.6" with.
Seems a little odd the button area is deep black and the background above is "greyish" The whole beauty of an AMOLED screen is the black should be pure black. When you look through the menus on the vibrant the text sits on a very deep black background. something is not right with this leaked picture
peddent said:
Seems a little odd the button area is deep black and the background above is "greyish" The whole beauty of an AMOLED screen is the black should be pure black. When you look through the menus on the vibrant the text sits on a very deep black background. something is not right with this leaked picture
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Well, If you take a closer look at the area below the buttons area. The area below buttons are in DEEPER BLACK.
Hence, this could be photoshop product ????
And the bleeding edge. That's not something seen on amoleds
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dardani89 said:
And the bleeding edge. That's not something seen on amoleds
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+1000 -> 99.9% fake
you want to see the real deal check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289656
Watch this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM9RO-GAKjE&feature=player_embedded
that's the same thing on that topic
You know what's something I always thought would be amazing? What is Samsung has a secret weapon already in deployment (as far as screen technology goes)? What if that secret weapon is SAMOLED+?
Think about it... Regular SAMOLED (and HD SAMOLED in the GNexus and Note) uses PenTile, which has 8 sub-pixels per pixel (4 green, and 2 each blue and red)... However, SAMOLED+ is true RGB, and actually uses 12 sub-pixels per pixel. So on SAMOLED+, that's 4 red, 4 green, and 4 blue for each single pixel. Let that sink in for a moment... Most ordinary RGB displays only have 3 sub-pixels per pixel. 1 each of red, green, and blue...
Have a look at this picture to see what I mean:
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Can you guess where I'm going with this yet?
Essentially, Samsung already has better-than-retina AMOLED displays already out in the wild, if they were to use the traditional 3 RGB sub-pixels instead of 12. What if it's only a matter of releasing a firmware update to such equipped devices, so that they effectively quadruple their screen resolutions by addressing 3 sub-pixels per pixel instead of 12?
Let me draw a diagram to clarify...
Traditional RGB pixel/sub-pixel arrangement:
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3 sub-pixels, 1 pixel.
SAMOLED+ pixel/sub-pixel arrangement (also viewable in the image above):
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12 sub-pixels, 1 pixel.
As you can see, one SAMOLED+ pixel is essentially a cluster of 4 traditional RGB pixels. So, bearing that in mind, couldn't Samsung just quadruple their resolution by addressing existing SAMOLED+ sub-pixels the same way as traditional RGB (3 sub-pixels per pixel), instead of 12 sub-pixels per pixel?
That would be totally awesome!!!
I could just see it now:
Apple announces their iPad3, and how it has quadruple the resolution of the outgoing generation. The Apple crowd goes "Woo, yay..." while everyone else goes "Damn... I wish my screen were that nice..."
Then Samsung comes out "Hey guys! You know how awesome your SAMOLED+ displays are? You want higher resolution? Well, guess what, you've already got it! Here's a firmware update for ya! *boom!!* Quadruple your old resolution!! You're welcome! "
Apple: "WTF!? Seriously? Foiled again!! Damn you Samsuuuuuuuung!!!!"
Isn't it the other way round? Why would you decrease the subpixel amount from 12 to 3?
The pixels would be bigger.
And how do you want to change the color of a subpixel via firmaware?
I think he is saying the 12 pixel structure in the photo shows 4 groups of RGB subpixels,
so why use all for a single pixel , how about using them as 4 pixels...
Ah now i get it.
I tought Samsung already uses it as 4 pixels.
That makes sense.
Polarfuchs said:
Ah now i get it.
I tought Samsung already uses it as 4 pixels.
That makes sense.
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Edit: Moved response and explanation to OP.
As the case with everyone else, i was super excited for the s3. After all the rumours and leaks surrounding it are to be cleared. When i first saw it, my first reaction was,"is that that the galaxy nexus fused with s ii.''
The So-Called Galaxy S III is a huge disappointment for me. Samsung teased us by saying that something big is coming, well it's certainly big - 4.8'' inch big.
Let's take a look at what i found so disappointing in S III
1. Display: 4.8" 16M-color HD (720 x 1280 pixels) Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen,
REASON - Dude Sammy, you could just use the old screen size, increasing the resolution. The 4.8'' is too big and i bet that ladies will certainly avoid it.
2. CPU: Quad-core 32nm ARM Cortex A9 1.4 GHz processor, Exynos 4212 Quad chipset
REASON - They used four cores, when they can use two. I mean instead of four Cortex A9, they can simply use tow Cortex A15 cores.
3. TouchWIZ - The pure ICS UI is so sexy, but you ruined by your crapwiz.
4. Design - It looks like a Galaxy Nexus fused with the S II.
I think that the S 3 is a huge disappointment comparing the kind of hype they built with it.
SOME LIVE SHOTS OF GALAXY S III - Coutesy- GSMarena.com
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Galaxy S II Next To S III
Front Look
Back
did you miss this gigantic on going thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633756
Design and cheap plastics feel let it down unfortunately for me... :-(
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God awful design choice. Plastics for one + a shiny back that attracts fingerprints? Blue instead of black? Ugh
Samsung had the opportunity to really push the envelope... and instead they sat back and unveiled a disappointing "flagship"
the design is the only let down, do not say other thing as disappointments. screen and processor are the right choice. how on earth will any mobile company launch a phone with stock ics UI?
All general descusion is to be direct to this thread here
This is to help keep information organised.
Thank you.
So Samsung claims they have a 1080p 441ppi screen but the first macro pics we can see (like here) shows a new kind of pentile arrangement which leaves some interrogation.
If the green subpixels are on par with an RGB matrix, then the Red and Blue are now shared vertically and horizontally?
This would mean the subpixels ratio vs a RGB panel would be even lower than on the SGS3, and in fact closer to 720p.
Or, as the picture can't tell us much about the real scaling, is it working diagonally in a more acceptable way? else, are 2 Green subpixels always activated together?
What is the real subpixels number?
We don't know any of this until somebody will do an actual controlled 1:1 comparison between an LCD and the new screen.
The closest things we have is this; as you linked:
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Now, the font style is not the same. The background is not the same colour.
However, is is roughly a comparison at almost the same size. However, here's the kicker: There is no actual loss in edge sharpness.
The notion of a physical pixel doesn't seem to exist here anymore, and we see PenTile in what I believe is its first implementation with no disadvantages.
We should by all means see the RGB subpixels at that resolution but I need to zoom in another 250% for me to actually see them, at normal distance I actually see fake white pixels in the character, at the same resolution as the Xperia Z.
If the font style weren't different, then I imagine the illusion to be complete, as for example the horizontal bar in the middle of the character seems to be about ~34 pixels wide on both images, and you can actually overlay an imaginary resolution grid over both and it would overlap the same.
The only case where this won't work is when there are edges of high contrast of between exactly two logical pixels.
In any case, very interesting layout they did with the new screen.
I agree this is probably good enough and an improvement in everyday use.
On the "no disadvantage" part I'm not really sure.
I mean, if the end result is quite similar to a 720p rgb matrix, the GPU will still have to work with a 1080p "internal" resolution for fine details actually lost on screen.
That's where I doubt this is the best they could have done. I feel like they made this choice to market a 1080p screen while a standard matrix 720p could have been a wiser choice on a performance point.
But they had to make this "long blue subpixel" for the Note2 in a 5.5" diagonal, their technology perhaps wasn't ready (or too costly) for doing the same in 5".
Anyway, it will be interesting to see better comparison, especially vs another 720p device with better reference pictures.
The YotaPhone 3 is coming later this year
But there are very few details so far
by Micah [email protected] Jun 16, 2017, 3:59pm EDT
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/6/16/15821268/yotaphone-3-price-release-date
The YotaPhone 3 has apparently been announced at a conference in Northern China. The successor to the YotaPhone 2, which made some waves when it came with an E Ink display on its back, will also feature a rear E Ink display, with an AMOLED screen on the front.
The dual-screen smartphone will come in 64GB and 128GB versions for $350 and $450, respectively, and will be available in Russia and China this fall. Other than that, Yota Devices hasn’t said much about the device. They did release this very vague blacked-out photo back in April, however:
Whether the YotaPhone 3 will make its way to the US is another question. Yota Devices has a poor track record with making its devices available in the States — it killed the release of the YotaPhone 2 after a launching a crowdfunding campaign to bring it to the US.
Hopefully things will change this time around, and there will be a US version of the YotaPhone 3. Yota Devices is expected to announce more details around the smartphone later this summer.
I wonder if it will be 5.5 inch like most phones these days. I wouldn't mind that paired with a 5 inch e-ink display
zed011 said:
I wonder if it will be 5.5 inch like most phones these days. I wouldn't mind that paired with a 5 inch e-ink display
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Specs released!
https://www.engadget.com/2017/06/18/yotaphone-3-yota3-specs-snapdragon-625/
You almost guessed it! 5.5 AMOLED and 5.2 EPD!
the Snapdragon 625 will make the Yota 3 look obsolete by the time it launches this fall
WTF, no 6 gorillion core trans-quantum bio 88 dimension CPU? ARETHEYSERIOUS!!!!!??
If they're prioritising affordability and availability over luxury, it might just make a difference to the trivial business they made with Yotaphone 1 and 2 considering the brand value struggled to garner trust on a global scenario, price should be a critical measure to tantalise potential market spheres.
kbal said:
the Snapdragon 625 will make the Yota 3 look obsolete by the time it launches this fall
WTF, no 6 gorillion core trans-quantum bio 88 dimension CPU? ARETHEYSERIOUS!!!!!??
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This. Snapdragon 625 is the chip in my Moto Z Play. I have never ever encountered any problems whatsoever and the battery lifetime is insane. I am actually really happy to hear they are using something with a bit less energy hunger than most new phones.
Reveal blacked out yota3 image
I've not seen anyone try adjusting the light levels of the blacked-out Yota3 photo, so here's my attempt to reveal something: https://pasteboard.co/GFM7044.jpg
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Well, they posted first 3 official images of YOTA 3, design is really similar to Yota 1, it will be bigger but...idk Yota 2 still looks beautiful
http://4pda.ru/2017/08/23/346239/
It would seem that the Yota 3 does not have a 3.5mm headphone jack... No deal.