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Vibrant/Epic 4G/Captivate/Fascinate Forums Added!

We heard from a lot of users and moderators on the issue of whether to put all Galaxy S forums under one roof or to offer separate forums for them all.
For the sake of keeping confusion to a minimum plus ensuring that XDA stays as organized as possible, we've officially decided to launch forums for all four variants of the Galaxy S. We expect these four devices (plus the unlocked Galaxy S) to be very popular devices once they're on sale.
Here are the links!
Sprint Epic 4G
AT&T Captivate
T-Mobile Vibrant
Verizon Fascinate
This forum will be for the unlocked European version of the Galaxy S that has been on sale since June.
Thanks to everyone!
Edit by Chainfire:
Please note various Q&A from the i9000 (unlocked European version) FAQ may still be relevant to your device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596

Is there any way for them to be all under the same parent forum on the tree so that we don't get heavy fragmentation in discussions? It would make it easier for people to find threads that were for other Galaxy S derived devices that also affected them, but were posted in the other forums.

ryukent said:
Is there any way for them to be all under the same parent forum on the tree so that we don't get heavy fragmentation in discussions? It would make it easier for people to find threads that were for other Galaxy S derived devices that also affected them, but were posted in the other forums.
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This. It will be a pain to trawl through 5 different threads for Themes and Apps for example, which will be the same for all devices.

What was the point in the poll if popular vote didn't matter?
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to look through them all
GG to my laziness

Rawat said:
This. It will be a pain to trawl through 5 different threads for Themes and Apps for example, which will be the same for all devices.
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+1.
Agreed.

Can we fight with the other Galaxy S varieties for supremacy?
NOOO MY GALAYX IS TEH BESHTESTT!!!1!!1!one!!eleven

Unimaginative said:
Can we fight with the other Galaxy S varieties for supremacy?
NOOO MY GALAYX IS TEH BESHTESTT!!!1!!1!one!!eleven
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Obi-Wan: I have to admit that without the SGS varieties, it would have not been a victory.
Yoda: Victory? Victory you say? Master Obi-Wan, not victory. The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun the SGS War has.

INeedYourHelp said:
Obi-Wan: I have to admit that without the SGS varieties, it would have not been a victory.
Yoda: Victory? Victory you say? Master Obi-Wan, not victory. The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun the SGS War has.
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This is the best post I have ever seen on XDA.

INeedYourHelp said:
What was the point in the poll if popular vote didn't matter?
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to look through them all
GG to my laziness
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/Twerd.
No point in separating everything....
-bZj

I liked the idea of different development forums And keeping everything else unified. I don't remember any of htc wm phones being separated by carrier. Why separate all of the galaxies?

Rawat said:
This. It will be a pain to trawl through 5 different threads for Themes and Apps for example, which will be the same for all devices.
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The Themes and Apps sections will indeed have some redundancy, and we may remove those forums except from the main Galaxy S I9000. Then the trouble becomes that people will post about themes and apps with the OTHER forums like General, etc. So, we'll have to play it by ear and see how things go!

Keep the forums separate, but how about having a universal Themes and Apps topics all linked to the main one here?

can we have all the varieties themes and apps page link to the galaxy s one? Accessories and ROM dev. is nice to have separated but general and apps do not. If a thread poster feels it is phone specific he can just state the variant in the title no?

svetius said:
We heard from a lot of users and moderators on the issue of whether to put all Galaxy S forums under one roof or to offer separate forums for them all.
For the sake of keeping confusion to a minimum plus ensuring that XDA stays as organized as possible, we've officially decided to launch forums for all four variants of the Galaxy S. We expect these four devices (plus the unlocked Galaxy S) to be very popular devices once they're on sale.
Here are the links!
Sprint Epic 4G
AT&T Captivate
T-Mobile Vibrant
Verizon Fascinate
This forum will be for the unlocked European version of the Galaxy S that has been on sale since June.
Thanks to everyone!
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So the admins decided to go against the popular vote? Marvelous.
crabby

sorry.. but bad move to create separate forums... we now have to check 5 forums to find what we want.
this reminds me of the G1/Magic32B/Magic32A forums where nearly all development and modding was posted in the G1 forum (dev device), leaving the Magic forums abandoned, or full of links to G1 forum posts for those with 32B radios.
I predict that the Vibrant & Euro unlocked S will be the most used devices, leaving the other forums as good as empty or posted with stuff like "I found this on the Vibrant/S forum".
what about the forum search? will we now need to search all forums? increases the load right?
anyway.. last time I checked the poll regarding this, most of the users voted for seperate SUB forums.. did this change so drastically in the last weeks?

Separate forums of the SAME device by US carriers??? WTF?
Disagree... completely.

magicdroid said:
sorry.. but bad move to create separate forums... we now have to check 5 forums to find what we want.
this reminds me of the G1/Magic32B/Magic32A forums where nearly all development and modding was posted in the G1 forum (dev device), leaving the Magic forums abandoned, or full of links to G1 forum posts for those with 32B radios.
I predict that the Vibrant & Euro unlocked S will be the most used devices, leaving the other forums as good as empty or posted with stuff like "I found this on the Vibrant/S forum".
what about the forum search? will we now need to search all forums? increases the load right?
anyway.. last time I checked the poll regarding this, most of the users voted for seperate SUB forums.. did this change so drastically in the last weeks?
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Precisely.
I see no reason for 5 separate forums. I think a much better idea would have to have a single GalaxyS forum, and add subforums for specific variants as the need arises (if it ever does).
Having 5 forums just wastes everyone's time. It even makes searching useless .

reuthermonkey said:
Precisely.
I see no reason for 5 separate forums. I think a much better idea would have to have a single GalaxyS forum, and add subforums for specific variants as the need arises (if it ever does).
Having 5 forums just wastes everyone's time. It even makes searching useless .
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What amazing is they ask for a vote then go against it WTF

I think it would have been best to make them all in 1 forum and then have a sub forums for GSM and CDMA...
or make a sub forum for each device and a main forum for all of them to have a General...
cause there are many issues people are talking about in the Vibrant and the I9000 which are EXACTLY the same...
not to mention we need some stickies with common issues and questions..

On a similar note. The Samsung Vibrant or Galaxy S similar to the european version has 4 haptic buttons whereas the latter has only 2 and the
Big plastic intergrated middle button. Is this something people would prefer and would it be beneficial in the long run of android where it would
have been if the phone was to run windows 7.
BTW.... I Am not pleased that the American market also shipped this with the Avatar Film pre-installed...LOL!

[Q] Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum

original topic at
[Q] Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764084

Yes this is exactly what we need. Since the poll is positive, when will we see the forums merge together?
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Great idea. I voted in the orignal thread.

They did it with so many other phones, why not the galaxy s series?
I don't get it, and not many do. I came from the touch pro series and it doesn't bother me to have separate subs; rapheal is a great example of how it works out to combine em in one.
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^bump^
as i don't have any Mod power to make it a sticky, much less make the original topic cross posted across the 5 SGS forums

This would help a lot!

I'd be okay with merging the Vibrant, Captivate, and that Verizon model, but I feel that the Galaxy S is too different in both hardware and software to merge it. Do we really want to be dealing with people who flashed the wrong ROM that was in the same forum?

NickMl said:
I'd be okay with merging the Vibrant, Captivate, and that Verizon model, but I feel that the Galaxy S is too different in both hardware and software to merge it. Do we really want to be dealing with people who flashed the wrong ROM that was in the same forum?
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Actually we have more similarities with the Galaxy S then the Vibrant and Captivate >.>
If you read the post the Development forums will have separate subforums for device specific stuff...but things like General and etc will be merged so more people will be able to assist you..our device are pretty much 95%-99% identical.

I think its a pretty good idea. We don't want development scattered. United we stand strong!

it. said:
I think its a pretty good idea. We don't want development scattered. United we stand strong!
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yup! and more development = win for us all...

Please make this happen!

*Flashed back to the Hero forum before they where separate* Horrible Idea wanting to put CDMA and GSM phones in the same area - many a Hero where sent to an early grave by mixing the Dev boards for these 2. Someone posts a GSM radio update and a CDMA guy gets it thinking "Hey, what the Hell, couldn't hurt!" and there goes their $500.00 phone. Then they something about having insurance replace it and a huge debate starts over insurance fraud. And I've been told that insurance on the Epic is a one time use, then they drop it and you are Ef'd on a second one.
So consider this my vote against a huge forum of all GS devices. Also, with the hardware differences on a kernel level I have to think this would be a developer nightmare. As active as all 5 boards are already, there would be no way to keep up as a community to help each other out. Your thread would be buried in 10 minutes and we would have to deal with 5 times as many people asking stupid "Which rom is the best" or "How do I root my phone" questions without searching.

Kcarpenter said:
So consider this my vote against a huge forum of all GS devices.
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The proposition includes having separate development forums for each device. Only the General and Apps forums would be combined. Check out the link in the OP for more info.

lol wouldn't it be funny if they all merged and than the other Galaxy S phones want to divorce from the Epic because of no Tv-Out.
"They're mutants!!!"

sorry about the cross forum posting guys, but until we get this other issue solved
Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
this is the only way to keep in touch across the separate forums

OK, we seriously need separate sections...

For the European version, ATT, and VZW versions of this Galaxy Tablet because i don't know what the heck I'm looking at in the Development section anymore. Everything is SO clustered. I have a VZW Tab and trying to find anything in that DEV section is almost impossible. Anyone else agree???

Agreed.
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+1
Not the easiest forum to follow for specific tabs/regions.

I agree with this also.

i agree also... there isnt to much development goin on for the vzw tab.. i own a vzw tab my self. but we should have separate sections... hopefully they make it happen both development and a devoted vzw tab section.

You think you have got it hard, I'm confused as hell since I have an Asian Tab. Fffffuuuu. I'm guessing it's similar/identical to the Euro one but I'm not sure, so I haven't really tried flashing anything so far.

I agree as well, maybe with subsections for questions, ROMS, etc as well broken out of those.

Agreed, it's far too messy.

/make it happen.
Very disorderly. And for a nooblit like me almost painful.
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maybe in the future i can see a point in sub-sections
but from what ive read (and i aint done any mods to my device yet)
all the roms ect.. are clearly marked which device there for
if you cant find anything for your device thats because its not available 'yet'
the dev section is picking up great so hopefully it wont be long for things to be stable enough for a n00b like me to use, and for different device versions to become available

Sometimes i get confused too but if i got it, most things are common for the tabs and only basebands / modem firmware differs?

Agreed
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A little organization goes a long way. Start topics with "VZW CDMA" or "UK GSM" or something similar and 90% of the confusion would go away. Search might work, too. And people can start doing that TOMORROW, not when some organization is imposed.

Seperate Dev section for the US GS3?

Just wonder what you guys think....Do you think it's necessary to have a forum dedicated to the US version of this phone since the roms for the international version won't be compatible with it?
I think it would help since there won't be any confusion as to what version a particular rom/kernel/mod is for...I think it would also help as far as troubleshooting is concerned too.
What do you think?

Sounds practical to me
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916x10 said:
Just wonder what you guys think....Do you think it's necessary to have a forum dedicated to the US version of this phone since the roms for the international version won't be compatible with it?
I think it would help since there won't be any confusion as to what version a particular rom/kernel/mod is for...I think it would also help as far as troubleshooting is concerned too.
What do you think?
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I agree, there Is no point in cluttering this forum with a different device. Its a completely different beast.
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So many newbs will be flashing quad core ROM's on their dual core phones, and vice versa.
It's going to be a real mess for awhile. And likely a lot of total bricked phones as a result.

This will happen, perhaps we could wait untill US versions are ACTUALLY available?
It will be broken down into VZW, Sprint , ATT and TMO..maybe under one thread, maybe completely seperate....
While sharing the same build, they will have different model #'s...as has been the case with just about EVERY phone ever released...
Chill out guys..GNEX started on Verizon...now they have a GSM/Verizon/Sprint sub thread...
Did you really think a dev would post a US rom into a I-9300 thread without clearly stating it's for said device?

They need to separate all of the variations......Korea, Japan, etc. This forum is already becoming cluttered
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Closed as this has been answered before, at the very least the USA S4 versions will get their own dev sections, but the exact layout is still under discussion.

ATTN: All HTC One Devs please respond here

Yeah yeah, I know Im breaking the "Only post dev threads in the Dev section" but this is where this needs to be for a day or so...
Currently, we Mods are throwing around the idea of possibly merging the AT&T/T-Mobile forums with the HTC One. Hardware speaking, they are the same phone (minus the fact that the developer edition has a few more frequency bands). Software-wise though, I need to hear from all the Developers if there is anything different that needs to be enabled or done to get an AT&T/T-Mobile phone to run an international rom and have EVERYTHING work perfectly (i.e LTE).
Ive spoken to a few of you, but I want to hear from all the Developers. Do you think its a good idea to have all three forums merged into one... and can all phones run on the same roms and have everything work 100% and not leave out anything? This is a crucial piece of the puzzle to figuring out if we should proceed or not.
Ive also thrown up a vote just for the fun of it.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to chime in with your thoughts/opinions on the matter.

My vote goes for "yes".

Actually, lets use the new system...
Calling @torxx @mike1986. @cschmitt @flar2 @mwilky @LlabTooFeR @shnizlon @H89P @n3ocort3x @nocoast @fauz123 @Romanbb @h8rift @deadman96385 @kozmikkick @pinpong
If I forgot or overlooked you, my apologies... but feel free to chime in anyway.

I've always supported this, yes

Red5 said:
Actually, lets use the new system...
Calling @torxx @mike1986. @cschmitt @flar2 @mwilky @LlabTooFeR @shnizlon @H89P @n3ocort3x @nocoast @fauz123 @Romanbb @h8rift @deadman96385 @kozmikkick @pinpong
If I forgot or overlooked you, my apologies... but feel free to chime in anyway.
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For some reason the mention system didn't alert me, but I saw the thread
I say merge them. People keep asking over and over whether things are compatible with att and t-mo.

As an ATT user, I recommended mods should move ATT development & original development to HTC One as sub-forums, the rest like general + Q&A section can be merge with. There are not any many dev's in ATT development, it's boring .
@ to person click no to make separate is a SGS4 user lol, im just kidding around.

Have no problems with merging them, vote is "yes"

I'm not a dev but I still support this idea. It will make things much either rather than having people ask if certain things will be compatible and it will also save relaying the information to 3 different forums.
What about the Sprint variant? Is that too different so it needs to stay separated?
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Yes please
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Maybe keep the general forums separate and merge everything else. So one forum with 7 subforums.

KidCarter93 said:
What about the Sprint variant? Is that too different so it needs to stay separated?
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Sprint is CDMA, so it MUST stay seperate.

KidCarter93 said:
What about the Sprint variant? Is that too different so it needs to stay separated?
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Sprint (and Verizon if they ever get it) will stay separate due to it being CDMA and the phones not being 100% identical hardware-wise.

Not a developer but I say merge them all into one, becomes far easier to find, search and relay information. saves having to duplicate everything and things will get more attention

Red5 said:
Actually, lets use the new system...
Calling @torxx @mike1986. @cschmitt @flar2 @mwilky @LlabTooFeR @shnizlon @H89P @n3ocort3x @nocoast @fauz123 @Romanbb @h8rift @deadman96385 @kozmikkick @pinpong
If I forgot or overlooked you, my apologies... but feel free to chime in anyway.
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I definitely vote yes i dont like creating/maintaining more OPs than i have to...

Yep i think merging will be the best option

If they are merged, which I am a proponent of, it would be beneficial to have a sticky kept up-to-date which lists all the compatible carriers for this section with any carrier specific FAQ for developers.
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I say merge 'em, but there are a few network related software tweaks in AT&T based ROMs, so AT&T users should probably be made aware of the different behavior they might notice when flashing ROMs not based on AT&T firmware. A sticky should do the job. Can't speak for the T-Mo version.

Yes...merge them, I'm using tmous phone with an international Rom and it works great.
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gtg465x said:
I say merge 'em, but there are a few network related software tweaks in AT&T based ROMs, so AT&T users should probably be made aware of the different behavior they might notice when flashing ROMs not based on AT&T firmware.
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Really? I didnt know there were any software related tweaks. Care to elaborate on what these are? It may be beneficial for us to know what these are. Thanks.

Very minimal tweaks on things like mms size, signal bar inflation, etc. That torxx and mike1986 have incorporated into their installers. Not 100% necessary but makes things nice.
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