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[Q] Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764084
Yes this is exactly what we need. Since the poll is positive, when will we see the forums merge together?
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Great idea. I voted in the orignal thread.
They did it with so many other phones, why not the galaxy s series?
I don't get it, and not many do. I came from the touch pro series and it doesn't bother me to have separate subs; rapheal is a great example of how it works out to combine em in one.
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as i don't have any Mod power to make it a sticky, much less make the original topic cross posted across the 5 SGS forums
This would help a lot!
I'd be okay with merging the Vibrant, Captivate, and that Verizon model, but I feel that the Galaxy S is too different in both hardware and software to merge it. Do we really want to be dealing with people who flashed the wrong ROM that was in the same forum?
NickMl said:
I'd be okay with merging the Vibrant, Captivate, and that Verizon model, but I feel that the Galaxy S is too different in both hardware and software to merge it. Do we really want to be dealing with people who flashed the wrong ROM that was in the same forum?
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Actually we have more similarities with the Galaxy S then the Vibrant and Captivate >.>
If you read the post the Development forums will have separate subforums for device specific stuff...but things like General and etc will be merged so more people will be able to assist you..our device are pretty much 95%-99% identical.
I think its a pretty good idea. We don't want development scattered. United we stand strong!
it. said:
I think its a pretty good idea. We don't want development scattered. United we stand strong!
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yup! and more development = win for us all...
Please make this happen!
*Flashed back to the Hero forum before they where separate* Horrible Idea wanting to put CDMA and GSM phones in the same area - many a Hero where sent to an early grave by mixing the Dev boards for these 2. Someone posts a GSM radio update and a CDMA guy gets it thinking "Hey, what the Hell, couldn't hurt!" and there goes their $500.00 phone. Then they something about having insurance replace it and a huge debate starts over insurance fraud. And I've been told that insurance on the Epic is a one time use, then they drop it and you are Ef'd on a second one.
So consider this my vote against a huge forum of all GS devices. Also, with the hardware differences on a kernel level I have to think this would be a developer nightmare. As active as all 5 boards are already, there would be no way to keep up as a community to help each other out. Your thread would be buried in 10 minutes and we would have to deal with 5 times as many people asking stupid "Which rom is the best" or "How do I root my phone" questions without searching.
Kcarpenter said:
So consider this my vote against a huge forum of all GS devices.
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The proposition includes having separate development forums for each device. Only the General and Apps forums would be combined. Check out the link in the OP for more info.
lol wouldn't it be funny if they all merged and than the other Galaxy S phones want to divorce from the Epic because of no Tv-Out.
"They're mutants!!!"
sorry about the cross forum posting guys, but until we get this other issue solved
Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
this is the only way to keep in touch across the separate forums
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Thanks to everyone that voted.
As for the 6 that voted No, have fun with your new EVO or Nexus One. I'm sure the $300-$400 is going to buy a great phone, but I'm going to hold off on it for a while.
Looks like we will have our own forum and sub-forums after the weekend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6206357&postcount=899
We fought for this a long while ago... And I have suggested many times... I don't think it will happen as much as this sub-forum needs it..
*edit.. When I refreshed it was there..
Absolutely, positively yes.
The GSM Hero and the CDMA Hero are completely different phones. More different, at least that the Sprint Hero and the Verizon Droid Eris. (In fact, if there was ever a reason to put two phones in the same forum, it would be the Sprint Hero and the Eris. They're the same damn thing with different colored plastic...)
Sprint may not be the biggest carrier, but they're still not small. The Sprint Hero deserves the same treatment as any other phone....
Yes Yes Yes ...
No joke. The stupidist phones have their own forum. Why cant the CDMA Hero?
For instance:
The HTC Wallaby...Seriously?? ROFL
HTC Universal: Look how lame it looks...
HTC Apache: It barely has 250 threads.
HTC Charmer: Barely has 200 threads.
Palm Treo: Has two forums dedicated to their pile of **** phones. Really now?
HTC Athena: Lame
And that folks is just the tip of the iceberg. The CDMA Hero has more threads than the G2. LOL
Yes and a mod or two. I sent in a request for this yesterday.
its not even just a want at this point, its more like a need.
I mean as much activity that this single forum gets daily is cause alone for us to have our own portal
About time. This saves me two clicks...
Yeah lets go on strike...
Awww ****... no one needs us..
Oh well we really do need this, i hope they look at the stats soon, We have probably close to the highest posts and threads made a day.
totally agree we need this, not only would it help organize everything but then there would be the general discution section where people can post thier random stuff and not get 6 lame threads saying "stop with the lame threads" as far as potential mods go my votes go to toast and obilisk
we needed this a long time ago
Guys, there is a place to ask for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276306&page=89
I posted just a day or so ago and even offered to donate for their time and effort to make this happen.
Maybe.....IF you posted your thoughts in that thread they would take a look.
It is after all a thread/area where they say to post and they'll answer you maybe?
Thanks,
Bubba.
bubbacs1 said:
Guys, there is a place to ask for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276306&page=89
I posted just a day or so ago and even offered to donate for their time and effort to make this happen.
Maybe.....IF you posted your thoughts in that thread they would take a look.
It is after all a thread/area where they say to post and they'll answer you maybe?
Thanks,
Bubba.
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I don't know that I would have offered them 50.00.
And in fact it's NOT hard to create subsections for this. This bulletin board software is fairly standard. Probably take 10 minutes to create stuff. Getting the mods to move threads around would take a while, sure, but the subfora would be ready and usable in the meantime.
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Who are the two ppl who said NO ?? They are certainly now owning a HTC Sprint Hero i believe
I agree. The subforum was a good idea when the GSM Hero had just been released and a CDMA version was still just a rumor, but now it is really its' own device with its' own community. We have no use for any of the GSM forums, all we have is this one dinky forum that expands at a collossal rate every day.
Re: Should xda give us our own portal? I'm sending over to Admins
No joke. The stupidist phones have their own forum. Why cant the CDMA Hero?
For instance:
The HTC Wallaby...Seriously?? ROFL
HTC Universal: Look how lame it looks...
HTC Apache: It barely has 250 threads.
HTC Charmer: Barely has 200 threads.
Palm Treo: Has two forums dedicated to their pile of **** phones. Really now?
HTC Athena: Lame
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You should understand that phones such as the Wallaby and Apache(although not the XDA line) are some of the original HTC phones and those forums are what started XDA. The Apache was HTCs first major entry into the US CDMA market. XDA-developers has historically been for GSM phones(ie,XDA's) with CDMA hacking based over at ppcgeeks.com. Threads for the Apache are in the thousands there.
Only since the CDMA hero has there been real active dominant development of any cdma phone done here....
it would be nice to just separate the general talk from the dev talk... I used to think this was a dev forum and everything else should go in hero general talk, the general user base reminds me otherwise on a daily basis.
Lord help you if you actually suggest a topic be moved, people start accusing you of acting like a self proclaimed mod. I've pretty much given up posting in this section because of it.
LOL. Seriously??? The EVO is coming out this summer and 25% of the hero community will be leaving immediately and then another 25% will leave for it in 6 months after that!
MODS, this subforum is just fine.
We heard from a lot of users and moderators on the issue of whether to put all Galaxy S forums under one roof or to offer separate forums for them all.
For the sake of keeping confusion to a minimum plus ensuring that XDA stays as organized as possible, we've officially decided to launch forums for all four variants of the Galaxy S. We expect these four devices (plus the unlocked Galaxy S) to be very popular devices once they're on sale.
Here are the links!
Sprint Epic 4G
AT&T Captivate
T-Mobile Vibrant
Verizon Fascinate
This forum will be for the unlocked European version of the Galaxy S that has been on sale since June.
Thanks to everyone!
Edit by Chainfire:
Please note various Q&A from the i9000 (unlocked European version) FAQ may still be relevant to your device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
Is there any way for them to be all under the same parent forum on the tree so that we don't get heavy fragmentation in discussions? It would make it easier for people to find threads that were for other Galaxy S derived devices that also affected them, but were posted in the other forums.
ryukent said:
Is there any way for them to be all under the same parent forum on the tree so that we don't get heavy fragmentation in discussions? It would make it easier for people to find threads that were for other Galaxy S derived devices that also affected them, but were posted in the other forums.
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This. It will be a pain to trawl through 5 different threads for Themes and Apps for example, which will be the same for all devices.
What was the point in the poll if popular vote didn't matter?
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to look through them all
GG to my laziness
Rawat said:
This. It will be a pain to trawl through 5 different threads for Themes and Apps for example, which will be the same for all devices.
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+1.
Agreed.
Can we fight with the other Galaxy S varieties for supremacy?
NOOO MY GALAYX IS TEH BESHTESTT!!!1!!1!one!!eleven
Unimaginative said:
Can we fight with the other Galaxy S varieties for supremacy?
NOOO MY GALAYX IS TEH BESHTESTT!!!1!!1!one!!eleven
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Obi-Wan: I have to admit that without the SGS varieties, it would have not been a victory.
Yoda: Victory? Victory you say? Master Obi-Wan, not victory. The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun the SGS War has.
INeedYourHelp said:
Obi-Wan: I have to admit that without the SGS varieties, it would have not been a victory.
Yoda: Victory? Victory you say? Master Obi-Wan, not victory. The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun the SGS War has.
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This is the best post I have ever seen on XDA.
INeedYourHelp said:
What was the point in the poll if popular vote didn't matter?
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to look through them all
GG to my laziness
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/Twerd.
No point in separating everything....
-bZj
I liked the idea of different development forums And keeping everything else unified. I don't remember any of htc wm phones being separated by carrier. Why separate all of the galaxies?
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This. It will be a pain to trawl through 5 different threads for Themes and Apps for example, which will be the same for all devices.
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The Themes and Apps sections will indeed have some redundancy, and we may remove those forums except from the main Galaxy S I9000. Then the trouble becomes that people will post about themes and apps with the OTHER forums like General, etc. So, we'll have to play it by ear and see how things go!
Keep the forums separate, but how about having a universal Themes and Apps topics all linked to the main one here?
can we have all the varieties themes and apps page link to the galaxy s one? Accessories and ROM dev. is nice to have separated but general and apps do not. If a thread poster feels it is phone specific he can just state the variant in the title no?
svetius said:
We heard from a lot of users and moderators on the issue of whether to put all Galaxy S forums under one roof or to offer separate forums for them all.
For the sake of keeping confusion to a minimum plus ensuring that XDA stays as organized as possible, we've officially decided to launch forums for all four variants of the Galaxy S. We expect these four devices (plus the unlocked Galaxy S) to be very popular devices once they're on sale.
Here are the links!
Sprint Epic 4G
AT&T Captivate
T-Mobile Vibrant
Verizon Fascinate
This forum will be for the unlocked European version of the Galaxy S that has been on sale since June.
Thanks to everyone!
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So the admins decided to go against the popular vote? Marvelous.
crabby
sorry.. but bad move to create separate forums... we now have to check 5 forums to find what we want.
this reminds me of the G1/Magic32B/Magic32A forums where nearly all development and modding was posted in the G1 forum (dev device), leaving the Magic forums abandoned, or full of links to G1 forum posts for those with 32B radios.
I predict that the Vibrant & Euro unlocked S will be the most used devices, leaving the other forums as good as empty or posted with stuff like "I found this on the Vibrant/S forum".
what about the forum search? will we now need to search all forums? increases the load right?
anyway.. last time I checked the poll regarding this, most of the users voted for seperate SUB forums.. did this change so drastically in the last weeks?
Separate forums of the SAME device by US carriers??? WTF?
Disagree... completely.
magicdroid said:
sorry.. but bad move to create separate forums... we now have to check 5 forums to find what we want.
this reminds me of the G1/Magic32B/Magic32A forums where nearly all development and modding was posted in the G1 forum (dev device), leaving the Magic forums abandoned, or full of links to G1 forum posts for those with 32B radios.
I predict that the Vibrant & Euro unlocked S will be the most used devices, leaving the other forums as good as empty or posted with stuff like "I found this on the Vibrant/S forum".
what about the forum search? will we now need to search all forums? increases the load right?
anyway.. last time I checked the poll regarding this, most of the users voted for seperate SUB forums.. did this change so drastically in the last weeks?
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Precisely.
I see no reason for 5 separate forums. I think a much better idea would have to have a single GalaxyS forum, and add subforums for specific variants as the need arises (if it ever does).
Having 5 forums just wastes everyone's time. It even makes searching useless .
reuthermonkey said:
Precisely.
I see no reason for 5 separate forums. I think a much better idea would have to have a single GalaxyS forum, and add subforums for specific variants as the need arises (if it ever does).
Having 5 forums just wastes everyone's time. It even makes searching useless .
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What amazing is they ask for a vote then go against it WTF
I think it would have been best to make them all in 1 forum and then have a sub forums for GSM and CDMA...
or make a sub forum for each device and a main forum for all of them to have a General...
cause there are many issues people are talking about in the Vibrant and the I9000 which are EXACTLY the same...
not to mention we need some stickies with common issues and questions..
On a similar note. The Samsung Vibrant or Galaxy S similar to the european version has 4 haptic buttons whereas the latter has only 2 and the
Big plastic intergrated middle button. Is this something people would prefer and would it be beneficial in the long run of android where it would
have been if the phone was to run windows 7.
BTW.... I Am not pleased that the American market also shipped this with the Avatar Film pre-installed...LOL!
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[Q] Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764084
That is brilliant. Can't believe I did not post it first, it is a peeve of mine, big time.
I would like to see this as well.
I support this!
It was like that at first, but I think they did this so that people wouldnt start flashing things on their phones without knowing which one it's for.
I wouldnt mind a general "Galaxy S General" forum though.
yes, this would be a definite plus. and give us an off topic section for us sgs users as well.
+1 .....10 char
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as i don't have any Mod power to make it a sticky, much less make the original topic cross posted across the 5 SGS forums
115 Yes
7 No
Wow...
I didn't at first, but I found my self looking at the other forums today because its really obvious that there is tons of cross over. Of course I'd agree that development should be seperate, but cases and other things should totally be combined.
I just hope my sticky stays a sticky
jz9833 said:
It was like that at first, but I think they did this so that people wouldnt start flashing things on their phones without knowing which one it's for.
I wouldnt mind a general "Galaxy S General" forum though.
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It wasn't exactly like that at first I think..more precisely only the i9000 forum existed as it was the only device out at the time..
Right now we got almost the devices out the door and most of the stuff are compatible..if not minor tweaks make it compatible...
But yes thats exactly what the proposal will do..it will separate out the development with some room for cross development and keep the other categories like general the same
As long as the development sections are separate I think this its a good idea..
Especially if we have enough mods to watch over us...
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and also take out the Galaxy Spica subsection which no one seems to use.
I do like the idea though the only thing I'm worried about is people getting confused in the development section. And I'm assuming since the software is basically the same for all the phones then themes would work across all phones.
yeah that might be an issue. if we do merge, I think it's best if people start id'ing their thread with something like
[CAPT] dadada
[VIBR] dadada
[EPIC] dadada
Let me clear things up a bit....the Development thread will have sub-forums for each device...so anything that is unique or only for 1 device will be in the sub-forum...things that work on all devices or multiple devices will go into the main Development forum where we will tag it something like this "[V][C][F]" which would mean works for Vibrant, Captivate, Fascinate only.
I agree, checking all the other SGS forums is a litle annoying.
kizer said:
I didn't at first, but I found my self looking at the other forums today because its really obvious that there is tons of cross over. Of course I'd agree that development should be seperate, but cases and other things should totally be combined.
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I was under the impression that the Vibrant and Captivate don't use the same cases (Captivate has lines vs curves), so already there is an instance where this idea falls apart.
Theres going to be a SGS with a keyboard soon, that case won't be compatible with cases for the other phones.
So....we could mix the Vibrant and i9000 forums because they're basically the same form factor, but why bother.
There is enough different about all these phones that it's probably better keeping them separated.
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With that said, when there is an issue with one phone, it does seem to carry over to the others and it is freaking annoying having to delve the forums of the other phones to find a solution.
Unfortunately, what is the "better" solution? Either one is going to be somewhat confusing for somebody.
Bump.
To the people that still doesn't know about this idea, please go vote if you would like to see the big Galaxy S family forum merged.
Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/group.php?groupid=287
Join now if your are currently a user of any of the Samsung Galaxy S devices!!!
What's the difference between the your xda group and say the xda forum section dedicated to the Galaxy?
Honest question, not trying to be funny.
A bit redundant really.
Ummmmmm WTFITS??
Joined, although mine is in for repair right now..
If we get all of the Galaxy devices working together we can acomplish a lot more! We are not enemies, we need to help each other. Developers and the community as a whole are needed to make our devices the best available.
Whosdaman said:
If we get all of the Galaxy devices working together we can acomplish a lot more! We are not enemies, we need to help each other. Developers and the community as a whole are needed to make our devices the best available.
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how does that explains what the group is all about? I think we all read and post the galaxy s forums.. or did i miss smth?
It's the point that now there is one place that everyone can look at for the most important things.
Ok... this is kinda dumb... what do you think the XDA forums are for.. I don't need spam.. so i'm out.
Seriously? What are the points of groups then. Obviously ignorance is bliss in this community. If groups are organized accordinally, they can ultimately benefit the society of any device much more then the forums can.
Tell all of them to join here and sod off numbnuts.
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maybe the group has links to warez？
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What's so official about it? I think you made a typo in your title, because if it were official, Samsung would have started it, or at least endorse it. Have they?
The fact you need to be part of the group to even see group comments to me suggests it will actually reduce collaboration slightly. It's more of a exclusive little community (the title says so themselves), and I don't like to feel part of some exclusive little club, I want to share with the community.
Sorry, I don't think I'll join. Either way, you can't just share ROM's between the devices, because they do contain some different hardware. There are good reasons for keeping the various i9000 variants separate in the forums
This is just my opinion (no offense)
andrewluecke said:
What's so official about it? I think you made a typo in your title, because if it were official, Samsung would have started it, or at least endorse it. Have they?
The fact you need to be part of the group to even see group comments to me suggests it will actually reduce collaboration slightly. It's more of a exclusive little community (the title says so themselves), and I don't like to feel part of some exclusive little club, I want to share with the community.
Sorry, I don't think I'll join. Either way, you can't just share ROM's between the devices, because they do contain some different hardware. There are good reasons for keeping the various i9000 variants separate in the forums
This is just my opinion (no offense)
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Since your so against it, why is everyone else for it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764084
Why join a bunch of dead forums with no developers and no developers that own an actual i9000?
Ran in plenty of forums that copy-paste xda, don't see the need for another one.
Dead forums??? Captavate is very alive, the Epic just came out, and the Fasinate isnt out yet....you are very naive
The fact that you are here truong to get everyone to join your other forum shows the success of this forum already... Why don't ya suck a hind tit and get lost.
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Whoa calm down everyone, no need to be brash about this and start telling the OP to 'suck a hind tit'.
What he's trying to say his, user AllGamer proposed that we should merge all sub forums into one, but that's obviously not going to happen, so correct me if i'm wrong, the OP has created a group for ALL Galaxy S user variants to join, and share info, which means we can collectively figure things out etc. I think it's a decent idea, but time will tell.
Stop attacking the OP and get on with it, if you don't want to join, DON'T, if you do, DO, so simple yet some people want to argue. This is a friendly forum, not a *****y one.
MAMBO04 said:
Whoa calm down everyone, no need to be brash about this and start telling the OP to 'suck a hind tit'.
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I do agree stuff like that shouldn't be said. However, this doesn't change the fact that there is reason to be concerned that "whosdaman" is misleading people about the group's "official" status, especially when he is the maintainer. There is nothing official about it, and he is now WELL aware of it, but still hasn't changed this topic..
Also, he still hasn't changed the comment viewing permissions. You still MUST be a member to read any information, which seems to suggest he has a greater interest in boosting numbers than encouraging cooperation.
I think this social group is good for general discussion (well, would be if he opened it up), but central group's aren't really suitable for development, because these phones are slightly different. Until it becomes public though it is a step backwards (particularly long term, because I am unsure if Google indexes sign-up-to-read groups on this forum)
If its not broken, don't fix it.
Please answer us on splitting out the Tab Development section into at sub sections, GSM, Sprint CDMA, Verizon CDMA.
aal1 said:
Please answer us on splitting out the Tab Development section into at sub sections, GSM, Sprint CDMA, Verizon CDMA.
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Demanding a response from a mod isn't likely to be met well. There's a lot of exclamation marks going on there. I think you might've forgotten a couple of 1's.
Why does it need to be split, are you confused from the huge selection of roms and development that's going on
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
galaxy tab has no movement (compared with desire, nexus, galaxy-s and others).
divisions are not needed, imho.
the thread titles are explicit.
Not until the source for honeycomb is released.
I personally agree with the OP. I think the section need to be split. I don't think the titles are always explicit and can be confusing. They are less confusing when you've been around for a while because the Tab forum has like no movement as was said earlier. I'm just not sure how they can split since some of the euro roms work on CDMA devices.
I have to say that I too agree. Nothing is more frustrating for a CDMA SGT owner looking for goodies, than to have to scroll through countless GSM posts. Not all posts are clear, some say only (ROM) which works fine for any other topic, but as long as there are 2 versions of the product, there should be 2 versions of threads. Just my 2 cents...
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I see no valid reason for this forum to be split, it would do more harm then good. What it infact needs is some sort of mandatory tagging scheme like the HD2 section has.
Devs need to tag their releases clearly and informatively to a set standard so users of their work have a clear and expected way of getting that info.
Example...
[10.MAR.11][ROM][GSM/CDMA] Release Name/Version [KERNEL]
This way you can clearly see the date and other needed info just by checking titles of topics.
You guys should visit the HD2 section and see how organised things are there, Yes there is waaaaay less dev work in the Tab section but better to start as you mean to go on.
I agree with both Grim and the OP.
I think what is desired is an easier way to find what will work with your device.
I moved to the Verizon version of this device from an original Moto Droid. With phones it seemed easier. If I was in the MotoDroid area, I knew that everything worked... (yeah, right) at least it was supposed to.
Here, it is much harder.
So either a consistent method of tagging a file posting or splitting. Either way solves the real goal.
Just my 14 cents...
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Not until the source for honeycomb is released.
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I don't see what that has to do with this..
Burning think its clear enough with the titles tbh. They state if they're CDMA or GSM.
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Please answer us on splitting out the Tab Development section into at sub sections, GSM, Sprint CDMA, Verizon CDMA.
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Agreed but not JUST to those carriers. Split it according to TYPE instead.
Its probably not going to be split. And a please would be nice.
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Its probably not going to be split. And a please would be nice.
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As you wish...
PLEASE!!!!!