Hello everybody.
If anyone is interested how our device performs next to the "big boy" like One X, here is a video showing you exactly that.
Besides, it prooves absolutely the oposite of what HTC have said about our device running better android 2.3.5 than android 4.0.
Make love, not war!
miHah
I started watching this video and then he started talking. Clothes instantly came off.
Benicio del Toro??????
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Great video! What ROM are you using?
Sent from my Desire HD
Yes, would be interessting to know which ROM is used on the DHD. Runs really smooth in my opinion. Currently i'm using Virtuos Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha 1.
This video actually doesn't prove a thing. You usually don't see much of a difference unless you did something more resource heavy than what I saw him do in the video.
Thanks a lot man U have just confirmed what we all were suspecting. This device is more than capable for running ICS and HTC just want us to buy another cellphone
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Yes, would be interessting to know which ROM is used on the DHD. Runs really smooth in my opinion. Currently i'm using Virtuos Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha 1.
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It's using Primo s v3.5 as you can see when he gos to the software version
Actually marl30 is right, you can take any phone and do those things fairly quickly, the difference is in the heavy using. What is the point of having ICS if your phone will not be able to play games as smoothly as it used to before. Some people would say they don't need games, but that is not the issue. A company such as HTC is obliged to provide a ROM with full functionality, heavy gaming included. If in their opinion DHD is not capable of running games on ICS the same way it was on GB then their not releasing ICS for DHD would be fully understandable. Although I tried gaming on HTC and must say that there is little difference in performance. The issue is that the drivers are not perfect and sometimes there are glitches on the screen or some lights missing.
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Actually marl30 is right, you can take any phone and do those things fairly quickly, the difference is in the heavy using. What is the point of having ICS if your phone will not be able to play games as smoothly as it used to before. Some people would say they don't need games, but that is not the issue. A company such as HTC is obliged to provide a ROM with full functionality, heavy gaming included. If in their opinion DHD is not capable of running games on ICS the same way it was on GB then their not releasing ICS for DHD would be fully understandable. Although I tried gaming on HTC and must say that there is little difference in performance. The issue is that the drivers are not perfect and sometimes there are glitches on the screen or some lights missing.
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1- little difference.
2- nothing is perfect, even htc's last oficial rom was buggy
3- of course there are glitches, devs here are either porting from other phones or building from ground up and doing a hell of a good job.
4- and yeah, I do agree with your initial statement - but that is not the issue as stated beforehand.
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Don't get me wrong, I also think we should get ICS or even JB. I believe that it would run like hell on our DHDs. I'm only saying that you can't compare those two phones barely on such mundane tasks like opening an sms app or launching facebook. The test with locking and unlocking the phone is just playing stupid. You can take any new phone and compare it to any old phone and the result will be the same, the task is designed to be easy on the phone so to be accomplished quickly.
Try running these two through a benchmark or measure the framerate on some gameloft games (Asphalt, GT Motor Academy etc.) the difference will be huge.
Quite frankly, to me the only viable reason for us is the fact that HTC One V (or One S) is actually the same phone as our DHD but with ****ty camera, and that thing is getting ICS. So if the same hardware with worse camera can operate sufficiently under ICS why can't the DHD. It obviously is a scam on us customers to make us leave the great device that we have and go spend our money on some new HTC phone. If you ask me that whole thing with ICS helped me with a decision, I know now that my next phone will not be HTC, probably SGS III or Note 2, at least they get support.
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The test with locking and unlocking the phone is just playing stupid. You can take any new phone and compare it to any old phone and the result will be the same, the task is designed to be easy on the phone so to be accomplished quickly.
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Yes, but both devices use same software so its only the matter of hardware (and cpu scheduler) how fast they unlock But yea, it clearly did not proove anything besides that Desire HD can run Ice Cream Sandwich like big phones can. I think that was the point?
Well, almost. What I meant was that running ICS is one thing, other thing is to run apps on ICS. In the same way you can compare an old PC and a new PC. Old one will run games ok under Win XP. New one will run games the same under Win7. But if you install Win7 on the old PC the system itself will run fine, simple tasks will run as well as on the new one but you will not be able to play your games anymore.
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Well, almost. What I meant was that running ICS is one thing, other thing is to run apps on ICS. In the same way you can compare an old PC and a new PC. Old one will run games ok under Win XP. New one will run games the same under Win7. But if you install Win7 on the old PC the system itself will run fine, simple tasks will run as well as on the new one but you will not be able to play your games anymore.
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Comparing windows to android is like comparing a toyota to a benz.
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The idea is the same. Comparison to windows was merely to exemplify my point.
haerigrek said:
The idea is the same. Comparison to windows was merely to exemplify my point.
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I got your point (edit: maybe I didn't), but it is not the same to put a benz engine in a toyota frame than a toyota engine in a benz.
Android is basically linux (someone correct me if I wrong), and linux is developed in such a way you can put it in older machines and works much better than windows in the same machine.
If android follows the same philosophy, then there is no reason why a fully optimized ics or jb can't work on our dhd's/inspires.
I may be wrong and I may have digressed from your initial premise, if I did sorrry.
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I got your point (edit: maybe I didn't), but it is not the same to put a benz engine in a toyota frame than a toyota engine in a benz.
Android is basically linux (someone correct me if I wrong), and linux is developed in such a way you can put it in older machines and works much better than windows in the same machine.
If android follows the same philosophy, then there is no reason why a fully optimized ics or jb can't work on our dhd's/inspires.
I may be wrong and I may have digressed from your initial premise, if I did sorrry.
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You are correct. Because every update does not make the system resource heavy, but its optimized so it runs smoother and buttery good, like jelly bean. Its not like windows - they are heavier and heavier because they want people to buy new computers. Remember - windows has 85% sales when people buy windows preinstalled on computers. You cant compare it with android or cars (cars and engine - you are talking hardware here, we are all about software)
miHah said:
Hello everybody.
If anyone is interested how our device performs next to the "big boy" like One X, here is a video showing you exactly that.
Besides, it prooves absolutely the oposite of what HTC have said about our device running better android 2.3.5 than android 4.0.
Make love, not war!
miHah
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I.. do not fully understand. You show a video proving the animation speeds are the same? If im not mistaken, arnt the animations made to run at a certain speed? If thats the case then the video really doesnt prove anything between the two phones.
HTC should learn something from this.. The developers in XDA can do this so why cant the engineers at HTC??
They should hire their developers from XDA
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I.. do not fully understand. You show a video proving the animation speeds are the same? If im not mistaken, arnt the animations made to run at a certain speed? If thats the case then the video really doesnt prove anything between the two phones.
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In video it was pointed out that all setting on both phones are the same, so its all matter of harware how the phones perform.
ErnestoD said:
Thanks a lot man U have just confirmed what we all were suspecting. This device is more than capable for running ICS and HTC just want us to buy another cellphone
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We all know HTC i not being sincere by saying we wont have a nice experience on ICS... Its just some marketing decisions.. Stupid company..
Related
http://gizmodo.com/5471805/windows-phone-7-series-everything-is-different-now
As the Gizmodo article says on multitasking:
1. It has the ability.
2. we going to make sure that 3rd parties can bring their value to the user even when the app is not running. Live tiles are an example. Data feeds in the hubs are another example.
Which means that the multitasking will be different from what we know. As an example we now know the task manager and as on XP we now the window is back or minimized. On this only the core of the app will be active and will send the data to another UI (Tile) or to the HUB...
How free this will be??? We will see.
But if they limit it and it's not hackable than I will buy an iphone or Go to android...
They can't build a such strict OS when they have all these different HW platforms that need OEM SW on the BKGRD... How they will solve this??? Not to mention Mobile Phone providers...
So i believe we all panicking without a reason. But it's good in case they had Multitasking off... they have time to turn it on after seeing all these...
Didn't they made a survey??? They only asked iphone user's??? tststs
I don't think they want another VISTA on their Hand's...
Ah well, it'll never work properly on our HD's so we will all need new devices for Win7Mob.
Plus apps from WM 6.1 and 6.5 will not work
wont work?
Hi, I dont see any reason why it wont work on our HD's, there may be performance issues but it should work, you underestimate the power of the XDA cook...!
also, Later reports suggest that all apps will be backward compatible albeit with a UI change.
dont rule out win7 yet...!
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Hi, I dont see any reason why it wont work on our HD's, there may be performance issues but it should work, you underestimate the power of the XDA cook...!
also, Later reports suggest that all apps will be backward compatible albeit with a UI change.
dont rule out win7 yet...!
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The HD doesnt have a capacitative screen, required for Win7Mob. Slow cpu, and slow flash ram under minimum spec again.
I'm sure a light version of 7 could be ported, but it would be so slow, there wouldn't be any point in it.
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The HD doesnt have a capacitative screen, required for Win7Mob. Slow cpu, and slow flash ram under minimum spec again.
I'm sure a light version of 7 could be ported, but it would be so slow, there wouldn't be any point in it.
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only time will tell
"Which means that the multitasking will be different from what we know."
which sounds very much like notifcations like iphones do which is not really multi-tasking
Rudegar said:
"Which means that the multitasking will be different from what we know."
which sounds very much like notifcations like iphones do which is not really multi-tasking
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Yes, that night be a problem for some people, there may be ways around this though, we'll have to wait and see or stick with 6.5
wp7 impossiple on hd even impossible on hd2
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wp7 impossiple on hd even impossible on hd2
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It's not "impossible" for the HD2, as it's going to be officially released for that phone.
Hello
I have a simple choice to make, whether to go with the HTC HD2 (and Windows 6.5), which will entail leaving Orange and not getting any upgrade offers, or to go with the Desire and Android.
I currently have a Diamond and have never, truly, had a problem with it that is down to the operating system. The reason its now dog slow is something to do with the amount of times ive dropped it from circa 4 feet. Its also scratched to buggery. I do like a lot of features of Windows 6.5 though, and im therefore a little reluctant to jump over to Android for a faster OS when i will sudddenly not be able to do some things i do now.
The first one that springs to mind is the contact list, where i can simply type a few numbers, or letters of someones name (first name or last name or last 3 letters of name, etc) and get given the number i want. Does Android do this? (I assume this is an OS thing, as my previous windows phones have all done this, though no other non windows phone ive used has!)
Otherwise, in terms of applications, will they run on Android if they run on Windwows, i suspect not. Or is it a case that some might but some wont? Is it a completely different setup? I have TomTom which runs like a gem through windows, will this work with android? I guess this is a usual question, im not buying TomTom again just to have it on my new device!
Final thing, what is battery life like on each, is one much better than others, particularly when using applications and, in particular, GPS?
Any sensible discussion is appreciated. No 'Desire is better' etc comments without a comparison/reason please.
Thanks in advance!
Steve
HD2 > Desire
not only the OS, but I simply love the hardware much better too.
With Android you get the promise of frequent(ish if you think of the hero) updates to your OS. Yeah you get less useability but you can still root your phone if you need to.
Winmo is still good and the HD2's screen is a thing to behold. Honestly, best bet is to try the phones yourself in a store.
I have both. HD2 and Desire.
Desire: Awsome! Poor battery, need to recharge 2-3 times at one day! Low volume! Poor music player! If you get a SMS from a service like 1999 it randomly finds a contacts and says for example that the SMS is from Mark (a random contact). VERY slow charcing! Android, very userfriendly! Awsome FaceBook app! Can only synch my Gmail!!! AMOLED screen!
Leo: Awsome fast charcing! Good batterylife! SRS WOWHD v1.5.1.0 = Awsome music quality! Need to be restarted every day, more then one time each day! Awsome screen! SMS deliver problem! Keyboard lag! I can synch my Hotmail, contacts etc! Costumizable! Better flash.
I'm currently using both, Leo for music and Desire as my main phone. And my Sony Ericsson watch is connect with my Desire...
I have just brought a desire for my daughter and have been comparing the two phones.1st of all I love my hd2, so i thought it would be very one sided and it was.
The desire is just so much better.The hd2 is without doubt the best looking hardware with the nicest screen in the world (IMHO) but the android software is so much easier and rewarding to use. The hd2 suits me fine because when im working nightshift and I have 10 hours to kill doing nothing, Im busy messy around with my phone getting this to work or that to work but I dont think thats for everyone.
The way I see it is you have the IPhone that everything works and is so easy a baby could use it but for that reason its locked down in every way that you cant do anything to modify it or personalise it.
You have the HD2 which seems totally open but you have to get your hands dirty to make everything work or to make it work faster or less buggy.
The Desire sits right in the middle and takes the best of both. Everything works very easily and SUPER QUICK, you have your millions of unnecessary apps, its not locked down like the IPhone and even more customisable than the hd2. You also have the fact that android will keep being developed and WM wont.
Sorry for the long post but seeing as im doing exactly what the post was talking about i had a lot on my mind.
RReckless
PS my HD2 is still the prettiest of them all
HD2
get the HD2. i take it with your diamond your used to hard spl if so the HD2 is no different.
put a good custom ROM on ie xtreame 6.5 rom and you will not have any problems
as for syncing mail, i use my google mail account for exchange with contacts etc, and hotmail for emails as well both work flawlessly and have no sms problems
bottom line, if you don't mind putting a custom rom on your phone get the HD2
otherwise the desire is your best bet
1. Desire is from HTC so it has the function press some letter then the contact pop up like u want.
2. I can say apps on Desire have more fun to use, but not so convenient for some basic function, e.g: HD2 have TCPMP, Core Player to play video that u dont have to spent hour to convert. Mobipocket reader to read prc. Office mobile is so convenient.
You will feel it's really fun with apps at first, but when u try everything that are recommended, you will just need the basic things which HD2 is better
3. I dont have a Desire, but based on reviews, battery life seem to be worse than HD2.
4. Desire can be rooted but u cannot do much thing with it like with HD2, and you will feel bored very soon in terms of customizing ur screen
i want the live wallpapers on my hd2 >.> xd
My Pennies worth...
I had both the Desire and HD2 for a week to compare..
Yes you do need to tweak the HD2 more (but that's part of the fun and being in the xda community)... and android is being developed for much quicker than anything else but I choose the HD2 for the following reasons..
1.The Camera is much better on the HD2 even though they are both 5 megapixel shooters, the HD2 was better in all conditions (low light etc)
2.There's no decent video player for android yet (compared to coreplayer, although I believe they're working on an android version)
3. I stream a lot of TV/Music and the beebplayer program is rubbish compared to myPlayer on winmo - having said that the LastFM widget for Android is really good.
4. The Screen is better IMHO on the HD2 in both size and quality
5. FPSEce is only available on winmo and is totally brilliant.
6. I've gambled on the fact that the HD2 may get an android port or windows 7 port by the talented devs on this site, and therefore give me the best of all worlds on a really powerful device.
The only thing i miss from Android at the moment is the live wallpapers... very cool
Some good posts, here, thanks a lot.
Re: Android ports for the HD2, ive heard this mentioned a lot. I know a bit about roms and things (I have duttythroys rom on the Diamond), but im not too sure about the OS. Is it feasible that HTC (or someone else) release a rom or something that would put Android onto the HD2? Is Windows 7 also a possibility? Obviously you can do it with a PC, jump from say XP to Windows 7, is the same move just as easy on a mobile device or does it require radical jiggerypokery?
Re: all the messages about looks, i have to be honest, i agree
LessThanSte said:
Some good posts, here, thanks a lot.
Re: Android ports for the HD2, ive heard this mentioned a lot. I know a bit about roms and things (I have duttythroys rom on the Diamond), but im not too sure about the OS. Is it feasible that HTC (or someone else) release a rom or something that would put Android onto the HD2? Is Windows 7 also a possibility? Obviously you can do it with a PC, jump from say XP to Windows 7, is the same move just as easy on a mobile device or does it require radical jiggerypokery?
Re: all the messages about looks, i have to be honest, i agree
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No way HTC will do that, just a dream
LessThanSte said:
Some good posts, here, thanks a lot.
Re: Android ports for the HD2, ive heard this mentioned a lot. I know a bit about roms and things (I have duttythroys rom on the Diamond), but im not too sure about the OS. Is it feasible that HTC (or someone else) release a rom or something that would put Android onto the HD2? Is Windows 7 also a possibility? Obviously you can do it with a PC, jump from say XP to Windows 7, is the same move just as easy on a mobile device or does it require radical jiggerypokery?
Re: all the messages about looks, i have to be honest, i agree
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mmh, microsoft said there will be NO upgrade to wm7.. but a port is possible, it did even succeed already to port wm7 to the hd2, its just buggy, and buggy means useless..
HTC will never make an android hd2 rom.. that would be really really really amazing if they would do that, but this are some crazy wishes xD
but yea, other HTC winmo phones got ports for android... even dualboot winmo/android. i would love that on the hd2 >=)
So i guess the point is that it *could* happen, even though it may not be official (as far as HTC are concerned?)
Just went to a mobile shop today and played with Desire for a while. IMO, I can conclude that the Desire with Android 2.1 is not interesting as it is advertised. Web browser is a very little faster, phone still laggy sometimes, not anything more special then 1.5 in terms of looks, customization. I still feel bored quite quickly
I have hd2 with custom nrg rom and android 2.2. i was thinking of changing it for desire hd but are there any advantages except the camera.
tnx
Better processer, better gpu, better build quality, better sound, better screen and more internal storage.
Its just better
teihoata said:
Better processer, better gpu, better build quality, better sound, better screen and more internal storage.
Its just better
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+1 and don't forget also the OS. Windows mobile is just fail.
marko_mk said:
I have hd2 with custom nrg rom and android 2.2. i was thinking of changing it for desire hd but are there any advantages except the camera.
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Even running Android on the HD2, while good, isn't as good as a Desire HD. I know. I upgraded from it
marko_mk said:
I have hd2 with custom nrg rom and android 2.2. i was thinking of changing it for desire hd but are there any advantages except the camera.
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LOL, if you are asking yourself this question and even are asking it on a forum dedicated to the Desire HD, the question must be rhetorical I speculate that you are looking for really good arguments that will stop you from buying one.
I bet you already have one right now
still not available in my country
i'm still waiting to become available in macedonia . So guys you say that the android port for hd2 will never be like the stock one on desire hd. when it arrives I'm definitively going to buy it
marko_mk said:
i'm still waiting to become available in macedonia . So guys you say that the android port for hd2 will never be like the stock one on desire hd. when it arrives I'm definitively going to buy it
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you know its right
the new HTC sense on DHD is actually really really good!
I think this is what android should be. there are loads of subtle and nice functions such as notification for switch battery usage profile when battery below 15%, the super fast boot time (oooh yeahhh!)
and also HTC Hub that allows download of HTC's own app and functions.
and the software runs really smoothly on the hardware. All my android device in the past has suffered some degree of sluggish performance and glitches when running app (like occasional pause and etc.), particularly when compare to iPhone. But DesireHD is in a different class, its just really really smooth.
very impressive.
I ask the same question .. and I think I'll stay on WM for a while yet. I only have HD2 for a year, it's still in top shape. It does all I need it for, I invested some money into software, and if I want to play with android, I can just reboot. And DHD roms will soon get ported to HD2 I believe.
So I will wait till some problem shows up (like battery condition for example). There are some other cool android devices expected in summer next year, so let's see.
I must fight the urge to buy every cool phone which is just released
Ive posted some videos of comparison between both
I am currently running a NAND Android build on my HD2.
I want to test out WP7. Is there a SD card build for WP7 instead? I don't want to erase my current NAND Android build, so is there a way to run WP7 from SD card instead?
nope, not yet, and in my opinion not very likely either
Was looking for something similar
Seriously, you're not currently missing much, just stick with Android until the numerous WP7 issues on the Leo are fixed. Don't hold your breath though, there hasn't been much in the way of fixes since DFT released the original rom nearly three months ago. For example, multitouch (or the lack of it) is a major dealbreaker for me.
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Seriously, you're not currently missing much, just stick with Android until the numerous WP7 issues on the Leo are fixed. Don't hold your breath though, there hasn't been much in the way of fixes since DFT released the original rom nearly three months ago. For example, multitouch (or the lack of it) is a major dealbreaker for me.
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Isn't the multitouch a HW limitation? i expect to ever see that working correctly...
Pagnell said:
Seriously, you're not currently missing much, just stick with Android until the numerous WP7 issues on the Leo are fixed. Don't hold your breath though, there hasn't been much in the way of fixes since DFT released the original rom nearly three months ago. For example, multitouch (or the lack of it) is a major dealbreaker for me.
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its unlikey that there will be any fixes for anything, and to be honest its not an issue anyway, multi touch works fine, you just have to adapt a little.
I used WM then moved to Android for my social dealings and finally ive moved to a 100% WP device and you cant pay me to move back, wp is a rock solid OS that works well, I used to mod the crap out of WM and droid OSs now i really dont feel the need to and i dont miss not being able to do it either, its very odd to start with but a couple of weeks later and im converted!
Gotta agree with Dazza. I've used it exclusivley for three months now. It is nearly flawless. There are a few points where I know I am hitting limitations due to the hack (Multi touch works, just not flawlessly). but these are no more, in fact less so than the flaws I always seemed to hit running android and there is no comparison to old WM builds. Even with the awesome ROM's that were available towards the end.
Even without NoDo or Mango, even with multi touch that will never be more than 2 point and sometimes be slower to respond then I would like, this will see me through to my next upgrade when I'll get whatever the latest WP7 iron is and my HD2 will be nailed to my wall in homage to the most ground breaking phone I can remember. even 2 years later it's versatility keeps it in the game!
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Isn't the multitouch a HW limitation? i expect to ever see that working correctly...
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It technically is and isn't. HTC says that the HD2 can support more than 2 point multitouch, but the software limits it to 2. But that is for Windows Mobile 6.5! So, in theory, it can be fixed, but the process to do so is not worth it.
And if you really want to, you can run NAND Windows Phone 7 and SD Android together
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its unlikey that there will be any fixes for anything, and to be honest its not an issue anyway, multi touch works fine, you just have to adapt a little.
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Works fine? No it doesn't. You have to press your fingers on the screen at exactly the same time for it to be recognised. This makes playing multitouch games almost impossible and makes other multitouch features within the OS (browsing and photo viewing for example) a chore at best.
Still, if you're happy with it that's all that matters.
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It technically is and isn't. HTC says that the HD2 can support more than 2 point multitouch, but the software limits it to 2. But that is for Windows Mobile 6.5! So, in theory, it can be fixed, but the process to do so is not worth it.
And if you really want to, you can run NAND Windows Phone 7 and SD Android together
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HTC doesn't say it supports for the 2-point multitouch. One random customer service person that works at HTC who probably didn't know what they were talking about doesn't count as HTC saying that.
Every dev that has worked on the touch screen or drivers for it have said its a hardware limitation of 2 point... and it's not even true, full 2point touch... that touch sensor was actually only designed to do pinch to zoom, but the clever devs were able to write drivers that allow us as close to real 2point multitouch we'll get on the HD2. But there's the problem of if your 2 fingers get close to the same axis line, it will register them as on the same line. That happens with our touch screen because it was designed for only pinch to zoom type multitouch originally.
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Works fine? No it doesn't. You have to press your fingers on the screen at exactly the same time for it to be recognised. This makes playing multitouch games almost impossible and makes other multitouch features within the OS (browsing and photo viewing for example) a chore at best.
Still, if you're happy with it that's all that matters.
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thats very much open to ones needs, I dont really play games so for me, once you adapt your fingers to hit at the same time there isnt an issue.
Too much hatin' going on here... or should I say pessimism?
Everyone just remember how TERRIBLE android was when it was first ported to the HD2. As for WP7, the first build I tried after 3 months is almost FLAWLESS. It is so fast, smooth, you can get Live services running in a few moments with just a few tweaks AND you can dual boot with Android. I see WP7 improvements on the horizon.
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Too much hatin' going on here... or should I say pessimism?
Everyone just remember how TERRIBLE android was when it was first ported to the HD2. As for WP7, the first build I tried after 3 months is almost FLAWLESS. It is so fast, smooth, you can get Live services running in a few moments with just a few tweaks AND you can dual boot with Android. I see WP7 improvements on the horizon.
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im glade you do, i dont, but o be honest there is very little id want changed, bar wp7 updates, actual hd2 compatibility updates are unlikely to change in the near future
Thanks for the reply guys. I upgraded to Gingerbread and find it very stable with improved performance. I am no longer interested in WP7...
Good for you, OP. I used WP7 for a few weeks, but it was too slow, ate too much of my battery even on standby, had no decent free nav, had few decent apps that I needed, was horribly hamstrung, and offered an abominable web surfing experience. On the positive side, it was smooth as silk and the boot time was amazing.
I think it still has potential, but I'll wait for WP7.9 or whatever they'll call it. I live in the present and I can't waste time using an OS because of what I think it can be in the future.
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Seriously, you're not currently missing much, just stick with Android until the numerous WP7 issues on the Leo are fixed. Don't hold your breath though, there hasn't been much in the way of fixes since DFT released the original rom nearly three months ago. For example, multitouch (or the lack of it) is a major dealbreaker for me.
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I couldn't be bothered so much about multitouch, my Android has a that irritating zoom in icon on the web and pics anyway, I want to try WP7 but switch back to a NAND Droid when I feel like it. So seriously a WP7 SD version would take the cake.
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I couldn't be bothered so much about multitouch, my Android has a that irritating zoom in icon on the web and pics anyway, I want to try WP7 but switch back to a NAND Droid when I feel like it. So seriously a WP7 SD version would take the cake.
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or you can back up your android ROM via CWM, so when you want to go back to Android after you check out WP7 you can just restore your nand droid via cwm in like 5 minutes.
Just tried the XBmod of WP7.
WP7 is much better than I expected microsoft did a good job this time around. Albeit I'm much to used to android to keep it on my HD2 but come upgrade time I may just get a Wp7 device.
keep your hd2, a handset cldnt get better than this, wp7 and android running along and that too with quite stability
dont forget to appreciate the developers whenever u can
why better? give some examples... I'm just thinking about change into wp7...
gileneusz said:
why better? give some examples... I'm just thinking about change into wp7...
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not better than say android... But a surprising treat...
I don't know what to day about it.
The ui is just fun to use. The XBmod I used ran smooth as silk (similar to iphone smoothness). I like the messaging app. I didn't call microsoft for an activation code so I didn't get to try all the other great features although I'm sure it would have been worth the hassle
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not better than say android... But a surprising treat...
I don't know what to day about it.
The ui is just fun to use. The XBmod I used ran smooth as silk (similar to iphone smoothness). I like the messaging app. I didn't call microsoft for an activation code so I didn't get to try all the other great features although I'm sure it would have been worth the hassle
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Surprising, indeed. I used WP7 for a couple of months, everything fine. However, I missed the tweaking and modding - but I don´t like Android either. So I´m back to Windows Mobile/Sense...
WP7, imho, is far better than most reviews. Its completely new approach has its advantages; it´s fast and smooth.
At the end, it´s maybe a little too "simple" in the design. I think many people like all those fancy little icons on their smartphones, especially iOS users.
Oh, before I forget: One of the functions of WP7 is the integrated voice recognition/control. It works far better than anything else I ever tried before.
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Surprising, indeed. I used WP7 for a couple of months, everything fine. However, I missed the tweaking and modding - but I don´t like Android either. So I´m back to Windows Mobile/Sense...
WP7, imho, is far better than most reviews. Its completely new approach has its advantages; it´s fast and smooth.
At the end, it´s maybe a little too "simple" in the design. I think many people like all those fancy little icons on their smartphones, especially iOS users.
Oh, before I forget: One of the functions of WP7 is the integrated voice recognition/control. It works far better than anything else I ever tried before.
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How was your battery life? I only flashed out for a few minutes, but it seem like it wasn't charging
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pappasmurfsharem said:
not better than say android... But a surprising treat...
I don't know what to day about it.
The ui is just fun to use. The XBmod I used ran smooth as silk (similar to iphone smoothness). I like the messaging app. I didn't call microsoft for an activation code so I didn't get to try all the other great features although I'm sure it would have been worth the hassle
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Agree about the UI being fun to use. Very user friendly and fast fast fast. I did activate live services and while the app selection is not that great at the moment, the marketplace is very nice although a little convoluted when looking for apps. I'm currently dual booting Xbmod's build (v.1.11) and AmeriCanAndroid (which I usually use) but I'm holding out for the Mango update and hopefully that'll bring on some cool new apps and features so I can switch between the two without losing data. My biggest gripe is lack of apps. If I could somehow integrate my texts/call log between the two OSs, It would be a tough choice which one to run more.
I am a former iPhone user (2G one only) and I gotta say I thought I would miss it, but my HD2 is miles and miles better
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Agree about the UI being fun to use. Very user friendly and fast fast fast. I did activate live services and while the app selection is not that great at the moment, the marketplace is very nice although a little convoluted when looking for apps. I'm currently dual booting Xbmod's build (v.1.11) and AmeriCanAndroid (which I usually use) but I'm holding out for the Mango update and hopefully that'll bring on some cool new apps and features so I can switch between the two without losing data. My biggest gripe is lack of apps. If I could somehow integrate my texts/call log between the two OSs, It would be a tough choice which one to run more.
I am a former iPhone user (2G one only) and I gotta say I thought I would miss it, but my HD2 is miles and miles better
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How are you dual booting? Does haret run on wp7?
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How was your battery life? I only flashed out for a few minutes, but it seem like it wasn't charging
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does your led has an alternating sequence of red and green when plugged in??
if yes: then check the temperature of the phone,if its high,wait for it to cool down and then plug it in again(try switchin it off for cooling it down)
red green sequence means ur phone has overheated(yes its a bug) and as a risk of damage to battery, wp7 refuses to recharge it
(thanks to the developers )
hope i helped ya
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does your led has an alternating sequence of red and green when plugged in??
if yes: then check the temperature of the phone,if its high,wait for it to cool down and then plug it in again(try switchin it off for cooling it down)
red green sequence means ur phone has overheated(yes its a bug) and as a risk of damage to battery, wp7 refuses to recharge it
(thanks to the developers )
hope i helped ya
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What keeps that from happening?
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However, I missed the tweaking and modding
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I don't miss the tweaking and modding....and it's for a reason. With android i was constantly occupied with modding. With WP7 you can't tweak.....but you don't need to either. The UI works perfectly to begin with. The UI is designed to access basic functionality fast....phone, mail and messaging. Off course not everything is good, for example....i miss vibration feedback from the keyboard. The keyboard could have been larger as well.
WP7 doesn't have as many apps as android...but i only use flickr, facebook and twitter so i don't care.
If you're not changing to WP7 now....i would definitely give it a try as soon as mango is launched.
I agree. I was one of the loudest when it came to trashing WP7, when I hadn't even tried it, lol! Now I wouldn't use any other OS. Will definitely be getting a native WP7 come upgrade time. It's such an easy, smooth, & very reliable OS.
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What keeps that from happening?
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well there are two things you can do:
1.charge ONLY when its not hot,and try to remove and plug in the charger again.see if the continuous red light comes on(that means it charging,till its heat up again)
2.dual boot android and wp7 and charge in the android mode(its the best)
try Yuki's ROM,it heats up the least for me
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How are you dual booting? Does haret run on wp7?
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No, haret doesn't run on WP7. You use MAGLDR to launch either. Follow this thread EXACTLY. When I say exactly, do not deviate one step. I did and it caused me hours of frustration:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944288
You're going to have to switch to an SD rom of Android though, unless you use Portadroid to run your NexusHD2 ROM (but as far as I know, I think some of the NANDroid ROMs are a bit unstable using portadroid)
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I don't miss the tweaking and modding....and it's for a reason. With android i was constantly occupied with modding. With WP7 you can't tweak.....but you don't need to either. The UI works perfectly to begin with. The UI is designed to access basic functionality fast....phone, mail and messaging. Off course not everything is good, for example....i miss vibration feedback from the keyboard. The keyboard could have been larger as well.
WP7 doesn't have as many apps as android...but i only use flickr, facebook and twitter so i don't care.
If you're not changing to WP7 now....i would definitely give it a try as soon as mango is launched.
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+1
Same for me, need something solid for work and WP& is it. Running 3 echange accounts and a hotmail no prob, and stability probs and need for any mods, just works. Just what i need.
Agree with OP. I was feeling resigned to having winmo 6.5 for another 6 months; now after installing win7 it feels I have a brand new phone! XD
WP7 is a nice system. But navigation systems for winmo and android is better.
DufeRob said:
WP7 is a nice system. But navigation systems for winmo and android is better.
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not heard of gMaps?