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im trying to decide between the wildfire and desire.
without going too into things, the wildfire has it's drawbacks (screensize, processing power), but it alot more affordable than the desire. that said, desire has the big screen and more raw power.
so to help me decide which i should go for, could you guys clarify some usability questions i have:
- a key feature (one of many!) on my current touchHD WM handset is the ability for handwriting notes. alot quicker to write down letters/number combinations (useful being in IT!). is the wildfire capable of reasonably handing fingerwriting?
- does anyone use igo/tomtom - i presume the wildfire is more than capable, i just want to be 100% sure.
- does wildfire lag/pause/freeze? one of the biggest issues i have with my TouchHD is wm6.1 lags, and wm6.5 is just a touch slow in general. this is one of the main factors of considering desire over wildfire.
- aside from the physical/hardware attributes of the wildfire, i cant see any real advantage of the desire over a wildfire.
- keyboard. is the wildfire capable of full QWERTY keyboard accurate typing, or is it a 'compressed' keyboard where QW is on 1 button, ER on the next, TY on the next and so on...
i'm sure i've missed something, but i can always ask that when i remember it
thanks for info guys!
It is quite slow mate. I am not using custom roms and with Android 2,1 its a bit slow.
Every now and then you have to deal with freezes.
Furthermore depending on your fingers handwriting in portrait mode can be a pain ...
This is the big trade off,what u sacrifice for the attractive price. If u can afford desire,and if a cell phone is more to u than a simple phone ,then u should go for desire.
Finally the arrival of desire hd with push down original desire's price
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thanks for that.
freezing and battery life are the 2 concerns i have.
freezing seems an issue on the wildfire (my concerns, and your experience), although appears to have slightly better battery life.
desire will no doubt need charging every other day but shouldnt suffer from freezing.
ebay has a few at a reasonable price, so i'm very tempted to go grab the desire sim-free.
edit: i might hold out actually, see what peoples experiences are with 2.2. i know 2.2 have a load of speed improvements so may fix the freezing on wildfire. decent handwriting would be a nice feature, but certainly not worth the premium... if handwriting isnt good enough on wildfire then i'll just use voice/keyboard entry.
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thanks for that.
freezing and battery life are the 2 concerns i have.
freezing seems an issue on the wildfire (my concerns, and your experience), although appears to have slightly better battery life.
desire will no doubt need charging every other day but shouldnt suffer from freezing.
ebay has a few at a reasonable price, so i'm very tempted to go grab the desire sim-free.
edit: i might hold out actually, see what peoples experiences are with 2.2. i know 2.2 have a load of speed improvements so may fix the freezing on wildfire. decent handwriting would be a nice feature, but certainly not worth the premium... if handwriting isnt good enough on wildfire then i'll just use voice/keyboard entry.
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My 5 copper: Freezing , none. It happens very rarely and when it does , it's me messing it up with custom frameworks and other crap.
Battery time. Right now i have 36hours uptime , about an hour calltime , about 2 hours surfing/marketbrowsing. Half an hour Angry birds and an hour or two of Spotify (offline). When i am not at home i have Wifi off and while on work , i only have 2g enabled.
Speedwise , you can't compare the speed with a Desire ofcourse. but it's much better in 2.2 , and with OC and the tweaks in CM6 it's very tolerable in my opinion. IS the desire worth it's money? , probably. I can only imagine how much better a Desire would be with a tweaked and OC'd rom. Only tried a Desire with original Rom.
I think Tomtom doesn't have version for android and I know igo works on wildfire, but there is no fully working version for 320x240. Version for 320x240 has some problems with icons and text placing out of screen etc.
Use Navigon or Sygic mobile maps for navigation on Wildfire.
Co pilot live works mint on my wildfire, not had any freezes using openfire 2.3, text imput, i use better keyboard and dont have any problems, i have quite big hands too, speed is not a problem and seeing as argos has wildfires for £130, very good price
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Got a bit tired of Vibrant.....not that its bad, its a great phone and TouchWiz has been great too, GPS worked fine as well.....but the lack of ROMs made me switch. I tried going back to Nexus One.....no go, screen is crap, cant type anything without mistakes after Vibrants SAMOLED.....so HD2 came into my mind. Ironically, this Windows 6.5 phone has more Android support then Vibrant. It runs anything you want, Win6.5, Win7.0, CM7, Miui, HTC Sense, and even Linux......thats why I decided to give it a shot, at least until Pyramid comes out.
I've used both...
The screen size of the HD2 is nice, but the Vibrant display is superior in every other way IMO. And while the HD2 has some excellent ROMs, I wouldn't expect everything to work out of the box. It may run all those OSes you just mentioned, but the only one it officially runs is WinMo 6.5. Expect to compromise on features and do some tinkering otherwise. (If you require HD video recording, for example, don't even consider the HD2.)
It sounds like you've had pretty good luck with your Vibrant (compared to other Vibrant owners). Especially considering the fact that you don't mind TouchWiz, not sure I'd recommend the switch...that's just my opinion from several weeks experience. Your mileage may vary of course.
Good luck though. The HD2 has the best build of any phone I've ever used.
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I've used both...
The screen size of the HD2 is nice, but the Vibrant display is superior in every other way IMO. And while the HD2 has some excellent ROMs, I wouldn't expect everything to work out of the box. It may run all those OSes you just mentioned, but the only one it officially runs is WinMo 6.5. Expect to compromise on features and do some tinkering otherwise. (If you require HD video recording, for example, don't even consider the HD2.)
It sounds like you've had pretty good luck with your Vibrant (compared to other Vibrant owners). Especially considering the fact that you don't mind TouchWiz, not sure I'd recommend the switch...that's just my opinion from several weeks experience. Your mileage may vary of course.
Good luck though. The HD2 has the best build of any phone I've ever used.
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thanks.
well, since today, Miui Gingerbread is officially supported on hd2. this is one of the reasons for switch. Miui work great on my Nexus 1
I have both the vibrant and hd2, the hd2 is my back up/ fun phone. I gotten tired of touch wiz and wanted to try aosp android. So after months of having the hd2 I flashed everything under the sun and loved it. There is always something new to do on the hd2.
But as for battery life, stability and speed i still use the vibrant for my main phone.
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I have both the vibrant and hd2, the hd2 is my back up/ fun phone. I gotten tired of touch wiz and wanted to try aosp android. So after months of having the hd2 I flashed everything under the sun and loved it. There is always something new to do on the hd2.
But as for battery life, stability and speed i still use the vibrant for my main phone.
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not a fan of aosp. more of a sense and Miui fan
really worried about battery though
inconceeeivable said:
I've used both...
The screen size of the HD2 is nice, but the Vibrant display is superior in every other way IMO. And while the HD2 has some excellent ROMs, I wouldn't expect everything to work out of the box. It may run all those OSes you just mentioned, but the only one it officially runs is WinMo 6.5. Expect to compromise on features and do some tinkering otherwise. (If you require HD video recording, for example, don't even consider the HD2.)
It sounds like you've had pretty good luck with your Vibrant (compared to other Vibrant owners). Especially considering the fact that you don't mind TouchWiz, not sure I'd recommend the switch...that's just my opinion from several weeks experience. Your mileage may vary of course.
Good luck though. The HD2 has the best build of any phone I've ever used.
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After using the HD7 so much, I cannot fathom going back to using only a 4" screen as my main phone. I still use my Vibrant daily - I think some of the Official Apps on WP7 like Twitter and FB still need a bit more work. But with just 0.3" less screen size it feels too small already. I can barely type on it anymore.
The screen is really good but once you start using the other phones (even using them side by side) I don't think I ever really think about which screen is better, TBQH.
And yea, the build quality of the HD2 is great outside of the dust-attracting speaker grilles
However, the Vibrant makes a superior phone to the HD2/HD7. Reception is a lot better. The Vibrant's speakers are also a lot better than the HD2/HD7s. Less tinny and twice as loud. Even the earpiece volume for talking on the phone on an HD2/HD7 is almost 50% thinner and lower in volume than the Vibrant.
Just makes me think how much of a shame it was for Samsung to put such terrible software on the Vibrant (not in function or aesthetics, but in performance and robustness).
kolyan said:
thanks.
well, since today, Miui Gingerbread is officially supported on hd2. this is one of the reasons for switch. Miui work great on my Nexus 1
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Wow...did not know that lol. That's awesome.
if you could, just buy a 2nd hand hd2 and keep them both.
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N8ter said:
After using the HD7 so much, I cannot fathom going back to using only a 4" screen as my main phone. I still use my Vibrant daily - I think some of the Official Apps on WP7 like Twitter and FB still need a bit more work. But with just 0.3" less screen size it feels too small already. I can barely type on it anymore.
The screen is really good but once you start using the other phones (even using them side by side) I don't think I ever really think about which screen is better, TBQH.
And yea, the build quality of the HD2 is great outside of the dust-attracting speaker grilles
However, the Vibrant makes a superior phone to the HD2/HD7. Reception is a lot better. The Vibrant's speakers are also a lot better than the HD2/HD7s. Less tinny and twice as loud. Even the earpiece volume for talking on the phone on an HD2/HD7 is almost 50% thinner and lower in volume than the Vibrant.
Just makes me think how much of a shame it was for Samsung to put such terrible software on the Vibrant (not in function or aesthetics, but in performance and robustness).
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Stay away from the SGS2, you'll never be able to go back to a 4.3 inch.
Nothing against the vibrant but I jsut bought an dell streak. Vibrant is the champion being the longest phone in my possession. Im just bored with it and the dell streak is about the only phone I havent had besides the nexus s. Just waiting until the sgs2 comes out.
So far 4.3'' is pretty impressive, dont miss SAMOLED at all. Both speakers suck in HD2 compared to Galaxy, built quality is much better then Galaxy, Android actually runs faster (maybe the same), battery life dont know yet..... I hear mixed reports that Gingerbread is draining more battery......but the good thing is that Miui updates are comming out each week and no wipe is needed. Might try Gingerbread Sense UI later on since its still "new" to HD2
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So far 4.3'' is pretty impressive, dont miss SAMOLED at all. Both speakers suck in HD2 compared to Galaxy, built quality is much better then Galaxy, Android actually runs faster (maybe the same), battery life dont know yet..... I hear mixed reports that Gingerbread is draining more battery......but the good thing is that Miui updates are comming out each week and no wipe is needed. Might try Gingerbread Sense UI later on since its still "new" to HD2
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Not sure about the latest releases, but pongster's GBX ROM has a great reputation battery-wise. And yeah, those GB Sense builds will be sick if they get the camera working.
Edit: The main thing that bothers me about the HD2/7 display is the LCD response time. Do you guys notice this as well?
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Not sure about the latest releases, but pongster's GBX ROM has a great reputation battery-wise. And yeah, those GB Sense builds will be sick if they get the camera working.
Edit: The main thing that bothers me about the HD2/7 display is the LCD response time. Do you guys notice this as well?
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what do you mean about LCD ? Haven't noticed anything different from Vibrant yet.
I've been considering getting an hd2 for awhile, I just don't know what to do though, I'll miss my vibrant like crazy, one of the main reasons I'll miss my vibe is because I wouldn't have a clue how to flash roms on the hd2..
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what do you mean about LCD ? Haven't noticed anything different from Vibrant yet.
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Almost like a ghosting effect. Mainly noticeable on white text scrolling on a dark background. Not a huge deal, but was definitely there on both HD2 and HD7.
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I've been considering getting an hd2 for awhile, I just don't know what to do though, I'll miss my vibrant like crazy, one of the main reasons I'll miss my vibe is because I wouldn't have a clue how to flash roms on the hd2..
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I got mine with Android ROM so it was easy. with original windows, you have to flash radio, spl, and bootloader. after that its easy, and pretty much the same as Vibrant, flash the same clockwork recovery and flash Rom of your choice.
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I've been considering getting an hd2 for awhile, I just don't know what to do though, I'll miss my vibrant like crazy, one of the main reasons I'll miss my vibe is because I wouldn't have a clue how to flash roms on the hd2..
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I will glady help you flash roms on the Hd2.
It may seem complicated, but most of it is done through the computer. DFT's executables are very simple to operate. And unless you flash the wrong radio or mess up the bootloader, the phone is impossible to brick, partly thanks to the ability to flash through the computer (kind of like odin).
battery lasted 9 hours of pretty heavy use in 3g area with brightness set to auto....mostly playing and browsing the net, not much talk time or gps. also right now and at least in Miui, I can't change settings for light sensor (its a bug or something) and stock brightness is pretty high. Ones thats fixed, I bet it will greatly help the battery.
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I will glady help you flash roms on the Hd2.
It may seem complicated, but most of it is done through the computer. DFT's executables are very simple to operate. And unless you flash the wrong radio or mess up the bootloader, the phone is impossible to brick, partly thanks to the ability to flash through the computer (kind of like odin).
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Also, once you get clockwork on there, it wont be so different.
april fools? haha just playing
I came from an HD2 to a Vibrant. Gave the HD2 to my brother (android virgin). I love the screen size and the ease of running multiple roms on it but speaker and camera annoys the heck out of me. Funny though because I don't even use GPS that much and barely take picture but those are some things I NEED to have in a phone.
ANyway, good luck with your new phone. I am a bit jealous of not being able to run GB w/ gps my vibrant but it makes up in other area.
I can't wait for the roms to come out. Its simply amazing that my hd2 running android was actually faster than the samsung galaxy s2 but that is also disappointing given that I am supposes to be upgrading.
Having said that, at stock level the s2 its actually very good. Launcher pro is definitely faster than touchwiz. I have tried to stick with touchwiz but there doesn't seem to be any saving on battery life, hence no point when there are better home programs.
There are some debates about the gps but I get it working in seconds all the time even at home. The builds quality is really poor to the extent that I wanted too send it back the next day. It may be light but it doesn't exude style, more like cheapness. Battery is great without needing any compromise from me.
These comments are all compared too the hd2
hm, I also just migrated from HD2, but speed wise, none of the HD2 android builds I have tried comes even close to SGS II, so which build were you using?
Wtf u talking bout. Lol, android on hd2 was better than a lot of pure android phones. But against sgs2 ur crazy. What exactly is slow about touchwiz? Its not as integrated as sense but not slow on my device.
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I can't wait for the roms to come out. Its simply amazing that my hd2 running android was actually faster than the samsung galaxy s2 but that is also disappointing given that I am supposes to be upgrading.
Having said that, at stock level the s2 its actually very good. Launcher pro is definitely faster than touchwiz. I have tried to stick with touchwiz but there doesn't seem to be any saving on battery life, hence no point when there are better home programs.
There are some debates about the gps but I get it working in seconds all the time even at home. The builds quality is really poor to the extent that I wanted too send it back the next day. It may be light but it doesn't exude style, more like cheapness. Battery is great without needing any compromise from me.
These comments are all compared too the hd2
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I also had the HTC HD2 before buying the SGS2. I used to be a flashing maniac. Everytime something new was released I had to try if it was better than what I had already tried. But enough of that.
Once I got my SGS2 I knew why I felt like getting a new, real android phone in the first place. The SGS2 has beat my old HD2 in every aspect.
I only miss the weight of the HD2. After holding it for so long the SGS2 feels like you have nothing at all in your hands.
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Touchwiz is ok but the experience is not as smooth as the iphone. Nor is it as good as my experience with darkstone ram build
Yay another fake "i come from xxx phone and the sgs2 sux!"
The sgs2 is extremely fast and responsive on stock rom, so good luck trolling on that lol.
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I also had the HTC HD2 before buying the SGS2. I used to be a flashing maniac. Everytime something new was released I had to try if it was better than what I had already tried. But enough of that.
Once I got my SGS2 I knew why I felt like getting a new, real android phone in the first place. The SGS2 has beat my old HD2 in every aspect.
I only miss the weight of the HD2. After holding it for so long the SGS2 feels like you have nothing at all in your hands.
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+1, my thoughts exactly.
The HD2 was a fantastic phone, tons of ROMS and dev, but slow compared to the SG2
I don't mind the discussion but why the provocative choice of words.
+1 samething happens with every device released. Its either coming from xxx device or threatening current users with upcoming devices.
Hd2 is the flashers dream, and I have no problems with that device besides the fragile screen. But please remember that the hd2 is hacked/modded/tweaked to death. And I was there when it was just winmo 6.5. It was an extremely long process and has been in development for years now. Its a damn good android device but nowhere near the sgs2.
Its 10 times better than any iphone to above post.
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Yay another fake "i come from xxx phone and the sgs2 sux!"
The sgs2 is extremely fast and responsive on stock rom, so good luck trolling on that lol.
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Hmm, you must have a faulty GS2, as I had a GS2 for a bit, and it was so much faster than the HD2!
However, I'm back to HD2 now as the price GS2s were going for on ebay left me with no choice
If you're not making it up, can you please post your HD2 setup so I can make mine faster than a GS2 as well? I'd pay you if it worked!
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I probably should stop now as it is clear my experience is just mine. I use the darkstone ram build but with almost no other widget on. It was my weekend os as I needed windows mobile for work.
I certainly feel the iphone os had a more finished feel to the stock touchwiz. For example scrolling to the next screen with the ap news widget and the email widget below is not 100% smooth. A lot of you our there really love this phone and I don't mean to dispute.
In fact I wish I can delete this thread as it is now a meaningless reflection of my own and I accept that my opinions are not shared at all.
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I probably should stop now as it is clear my experience is just mine. I use the darkstone ram build but with almost no other widget on. It was my weekend os as I needed windows mobile for work.
I certainly feel the iphone os had a more finished feel to the stock touchwiz. For example scrolling to the next screen with the ap news widget and the email widget below is not 100% smooth. A lot of you our there really love this phone and I don't mean to dispute.
In fact I wish I can delete this thread as it is now a meaningless reflection of my own and I accept that my opinions are not shared at all.
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Wow, I'm surprised that people are still using my build on the HD2
In some aspects the SuperRAM build will be faster since /system is completely in RAM. This is great for quick loading etc, but in terms of raw performance, the SGS2 has it beat
Still though, the HD2 is a great phone but I've moved on to the SGS2 now. I'll likely start working on this superphone some time soon
wow, i can't believe darkstone is commenting here haha - it was the last person i'd expect to see!
btw - i loved your ROMs, i was a major flashaholic with my HD2 ever since the beginning. Thanks for contributing to the huge breakthrough that was Android on the HD2! I still remember the first desire build
anyways, back to the thread topic
I'm currently using the HD2 and still waiting on Handtec to get stock for the 2nd preorder batch
The ONE MAJOR problem i had with the HD2 was that it did not have a "true" multitouch touch controller. Whenever two points were touched in parallel it would register it as one point of touch.
So my major issue was with TYPING on the HD2. I could never type fast because i had letters jumping here and there.
I temporarily switched to an Atrix and loved the multitouch keyboard. But after using it for about a month and reading about the S2 - i know what's better.
I had a bunch of issues with the Atrix as well so I cant wait to try out the S2. The qHD screen was nice , but the pentile matrix was too noticable for me. Plus it got WAAY too hot.
Here's hoping Handtec gets stock soon
AND I AM SO HAPPY DARKSTONE IS ON BOARD WITH THE S2!! I can't wait for custom roms
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Wow, I'm surprised that people are still using my build on the HD2
In some aspects the SuperRAM build will be faster since /system is completely in RAM. This is great for quick loading etc, but in terms of raw performance, the SGS2 has it beat
Still though, the HD2 is a great phone but I've moved on to the SGS2 now. I'll likely start working on this superphone some time soon
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Hey, I was quite happily using one of your ancient FroyoStone v3.1 (manually patched up and tweaked with my own stuff of course) until I jumped on the SGS2 just two days ago
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For example scrolling to the next screen with the ap news widget and the email widget below is not 100% smooth
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Mate, if you reckon the default TouchWiz interface is crap just ditch it and download one of the million launcher apps on the Market these days. I didn't bother with TouchWiz at all - I just migrated my entire LauncherPro setup from my HD2 to the SGS2. The only things that bug me on the SGS2 atm was the stupid battery drain (which I think I've just fixed this morning) and the lockscreen, which I'll be rid of as soon as someone ports over a stock Gingerbeard build.
I came over from Pongster's build because I was so fed up with custom notifications not working.
Only things I miss from the HD2 are the call end button, notification LED and easy access to the MicroSD card. Oh, and TomTom (in Windows of course).
The speed boost is really noticeable in comparison, especially on the Market when you're updating or installing several apps at once.
I'm baffled as to why Samsung made the card reader so hard to access with a battery removal.
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I only miss the weight of the HD2. After holding it for so long the SGS2 feels like you have nothing at all in your hands.
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Well, yesterday I took my old HD2 in my hands after 3 weeks of using the Galaxy S II.
My reaction was: "How could I carry such an overweight brick for so long?"
I'll have a hard time leaving my old HD2 behind. It may be a heavy brick but it's a good looking and tough brick. And with AmericanAndroid's Gingerbread build and the MIUI Gingerbread builds it's also been really fast and efficient with battery.
*sniff* , oh well at the end of the day it still isn't a "real" android phone so it will be nice to see what that feels like. And I've always got a solid backup if the Sammy goes on the blink. Hopefully Darkstone will have some nice treats for us in the future as well. His Froyostone Sense build was my first HD2 Android experience.
Having moved over from the HD2 myself the only disadvantage I notice is a reduction in WiFi signal strength. The S2 is a lot faster though overall, there is simply no comparison in that respect and I have used virtually every HD2 Android build available at one time or other, both SD and nand.
I miss my MIUI roms though, I'm looking forward to the S2 getting them.
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I've moved on to the SGS2 now.
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Over the Evo 3D? :-o
The Evo 3D has the SGS2 beat in every way save for the hacky "internal storage." The screen especially is better on the Evo 3D (qHD S-LCD). Plus it, like, has 3D.
Hurry before it's too late and you're forced to buy the SGSII! XD
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Over the Evo 3D? :-o
The Evo 3D has the SGS2 beat in every way save for the hacky "internal storage." The screen especially is better on the Evo 3D (qHD S-LCD). Plus it, like, has 3D.
Hurry before it's too late and you're forced to buy the SGSII! XD
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I am going to buy HTC HD2 or HTC Desire HD.
1)From what I know hd2 was made to work with Windows Mobile but supports Android, I wanted to know if the HD2 will run Android smoothly without problems & bugs? Android Market works?
2)The HD2's touch is smooth while running Android? or it has delays?
3) How the Desire HD is different from the HD2? I know the camera is better in desire hd and also the RAM is a bit higher, but what else
4)HD2 works perfectly with Android 2.3 Gingerbread?
5)The phone memory in the HD2 is lower than the Desire HD, wanted to know if it's making a big difference.
6)Desire HD run games/Apps faster than HD2?
That's all for now, thanks for helper
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I am going to buy HTC HD2 or HTC Desire HD.
1)From what I know hd2 was made to work with Windows Mobile but supports Android, I wanted to know if the HD2 will run Android smoothly without problems & bugs? Android Market works?
2)The HD2's touch is smooth while running Android? or it has delays?
3) How the Desire HD is different from the HD2? I know the camera is better in desire hd and also the RAM is a bit higher, but what else
4)HD2 works perfectly with Android 2.3 Gingerbread?
5)The phone memory in the HD2 is lower than the Desire HD, wanted to know if it's making a big difference.
6)Desire HD run games/Apps faster than HD2?
That's all for now, thanks for helper
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1)HD2 runs android smoothly imho... android 4.0 may have a few problems but thats like every other device
2)im running sense 3.5 which is gingerbread and the touch screen is very responsive no delay
3)dont know anything about the desire but i know that the roms for desire get ported to hd2 so we get there roms anyway
4)as i said earlier gingerbread sense 3.5 is great (using the ENERGY rom)
5) i dont thik the less memory makes a difference i have installed a fair few apps and still have room to spare
6)app/game speed differs between devices some may be faster on hd2 than desire you never know... i find the apps are quite fast
hope this helps
Thanks MkBy for the fast response, here are some more things I would Like to know
1)What you suggest to buy?
2)Which one is cheaper?
3)I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
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Thanks MkBy for the fast response, here are some more things I would Like to know
1)What you suggest to buy?
2)Which one is cheaper?
3)I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
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I haven't used the DHD too much so I can't say which is better but 0my HD2 on CM7 appeared to keep up in performance in terms of scrolling, web browsing, opening apps etc. (i.e. not benchmarks) with my friend's DHD on CM7, and I would guess the HD2 is cheaper but the HD2 is absolutely terrible for playing HD games or games involving multitouch. In order for HD games to run smoothly you have to sacrifice either speed or graphics, and the HD2's screen only supports 2 points which is a massive let down for me. As much as I love the HD2, if it were up to me and both were around the same price I would go for the DHD, even if it is a slight bit more expensive
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the HD2's screen only supports 2 points which is a massive let down for me
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You mean that if I will try touch the screen on HD2 with three fingers it will detect only two of them?
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You mean that if I will try touch the screen on HD2 with three fingers it will detect only two of them?
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Yes, unfortunately It does that very poorly as well, I can't describe it but sometimes it appears to lock the two points together if they are on the same line if you know what I mean, it's quite difficult to describe.
Let's compare the Touch screen to SE Xperia's touch screen, I know that in Xperia you can work with 2 fingers and even more, HD2 can work with 2 fingers like Xperia does? I mean same quality of touch
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Let's compare the Touch screen to SE Xperia's touch screen, I know that in Xperia you can work with 2 fingers and even more, HD2 can work with 2 fingers like Xperia does? I mean same quality of touch
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1 Finger flawless
2 Fingers decent
3+ Fingers doesn't work
NONE OF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INNUENDO
As I said before, I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
I have an HD2 and am currently running the Energy ROM with sense 3.5 and Gingerbread. The screen is extremely responsive and over all the phone works great. I would recommend getting the HD2. It is one of the best phone out there as far as specs go and it isn't that expensive anymore.
If you want to buy a second-hand HD2, I would like to suggest you to check:
1. 3G data connection (refer to This)
2. Button response
3. Camera flashlight
4. Record video for 5 mins
5. earphone jack and some MP3
6. blue tooth file transfer
7. speaker
8. GPS in some navigation apps
9. Wifi of course
10.Ninja fruit for multi-touch test
Better bring a TF card with files or pics you want to test.
Since my HD2 has data connection freeze issue, I suggest you to buy a whole new handset like ONE X (if you like htc), with warranty. All these unsolved problems on HD2 are driving me crazy.
I'm running hd2 with ics tytung v1.5 with little to no known problems other than music app fc'ing. Their is a touch issue, namely screen lag, but I only notice it when playing games at a fast pace. Hd2's seem to regarded as highly adaptable as well. Not sure about dhd.
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Nigeldg said:
1 Finger flawless
2 Fingers decent
3+ Fingers doesn't work
NONE OF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INNUENDO
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LOLOL
I think if you need faster device, Desire HD is choice (i see from the specifiaction..), but if you need monster device, HD2 is choice,,,,
It can running a lot of OS,,,
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I'm running hd2 with ics tytung v1.5 with little to no known problems other than music app fc'ing. Their is a touch issue, namely screen lag, but I only notice it when playing games at a fast pace. Hd2's seem to regarded as highly adaptable as well. Not sure about dhd.
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Hi dooshbag45, I am thinking of changing my gingerbread rom to ICS. My current rom keeps rebooting when I am using headphone to listen to music. If i use loudspeaker it does not reboot. I have even had to think twice buying a beats audio headphone because of this problem. Does the ICS rom that you're using only fc or rebooting also? Is it only when you're using the default music app or also with third party app? Mine even reboots when i am using winamp.
hd2 pros
Many OS available (android, wp7, Ubuntu, etc)
Great screen (for devices age)
EASILY nodded
Cons
Touchscreen issues - using more than one finger recognition, failing digitizer (design flaw)
Data drop (happens to some, a simple disconnect/reconnect solves)
1 rear 5mp cam
Specs are showing their age but still hang with the best of em!!!
I've had a hands on with a friends DHD so the below is based on a QUICK hands on
DHD pros
Native android
Slight advantage on HD2 (hardware specs)
Cons
Smaller screen
You want android ... You're stuck with it!
Cons
Smaller screen
You want android ... You're stuck with it!
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Incorrect. The Desire HD has a screen of 4.3", which is as large as the HD2.
Hi
I've used both. And both are great devices too. The only drawback for both of em are lack of front cam. But IMHO go for a newer model. Like sensation and EVO 3d. You may get it cheaper also.
But the final decision be yours.
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Hello everybody.
If anyone is interested how our device performs next to the "big boy" like One X, here is a video showing you exactly that.
Besides, it prooves absolutely the oposite of what HTC have said about our device running better android 2.3.5 than android 4.0.
Make love, not war!
miHah
I started watching this video and then he started talking. Clothes instantly came off.
Benicio del Toro??????
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Great video! What ROM are you using?
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Yes, would be interessting to know which ROM is used on the DHD. Runs really smooth in my opinion. Currently i'm using Virtuos Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha 1.
This video actually doesn't prove a thing. You usually don't see much of a difference unless you did something more resource heavy than what I saw him do in the video.
Thanks a lot man U have just confirmed what we all were suspecting. This device is more than capable for running ICS and HTC just want us to buy another cellphone
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Yes, would be interessting to know which ROM is used on the DHD. Runs really smooth in my opinion. Currently i'm using Virtuos Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha 1.
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It's using Primo s v3.5 as you can see when he gos to the software version
Actually marl30 is right, you can take any phone and do those things fairly quickly, the difference is in the heavy using. What is the point of having ICS if your phone will not be able to play games as smoothly as it used to before. Some people would say they don't need games, but that is not the issue. A company such as HTC is obliged to provide a ROM with full functionality, heavy gaming included. If in their opinion DHD is not capable of running games on ICS the same way it was on GB then their not releasing ICS for DHD would be fully understandable. Although I tried gaming on HTC and must say that there is little difference in performance. The issue is that the drivers are not perfect and sometimes there are glitches on the screen or some lights missing.
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Actually marl30 is right, you can take any phone and do those things fairly quickly, the difference is in the heavy using. What is the point of having ICS if your phone will not be able to play games as smoothly as it used to before. Some people would say they don't need games, but that is not the issue. A company such as HTC is obliged to provide a ROM with full functionality, heavy gaming included. If in their opinion DHD is not capable of running games on ICS the same way it was on GB then their not releasing ICS for DHD would be fully understandable. Although I tried gaming on HTC and must say that there is little difference in performance. The issue is that the drivers are not perfect and sometimes there are glitches on the screen or some lights missing.
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1- little difference.
2- nothing is perfect, even htc's last oficial rom was buggy
3- of course there are glitches, devs here are either porting from other phones or building from ground up and doing a hell of a good job.
4- and yeah, I do agree with your initial statement - but that is not the issue as stated beforehand.
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Don't get me wrong, I also think we should get ICS or even JB. I believe that it would run like hell on our DHDs. I'm only saying that you can't compare those two phones barely on such mundane tasks like opening an sms app or launching facebook. The test with locking and unlocking the phone is just playing stupid. You can take any new phone and compare it to any old phone and the result will be the same, the task is designed to be easy on the phone so to be accomplished quickly.
Try running these two through a benchmark or measure the framerate on some gameloft games (Asphalt, GT Motor Academy etc.) the difference will be huge.
Quite frankly, to me the only viable reason for us is the fact that HTC One V (or One S) is actually the same phone as our DHD but with ****ty camera, and that thing is getting ICS. So if the same hardware with worse camera can operate sufficiently under ICS why can't the DHD. It obviously is a scam on us customers to make us leave the great device that we have and go spend our money on some new HTC phone. If you ask me that whole thing with ICS helped me with a decision, I know now that my next phone will not be HTC, probably SGS III or Note 2, at least they get support.
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The test with locking and unlocking the phone is just playing stupid. You can take any new phone and compare it to any old phone and the result will be the same, the task is designed to be easy on the phone so to be accomplished quickly.
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Yes, but both devices use same software so its only the matter of hardware (and cpu scheduler) how fast they unlock But yea, it clearly did not proove anything besides that Desire HD can run Ice Cream Sandwich like big phones can. I think that was the point?
Well, almost. What I meant was that running ICS is one thing, other thing is to run apps on ICS. In the same way you can compare an old PC and a new PC. Old one will run games ok under Win XP. New one will run games the same under Win7. But if you install Win7 on the old PC the system itself will run fine, simple tasks will run as well as on the new one but you will not be able to play your games anymore.
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Well, almost. What I meant was that running ICS is one thing, other thing is to run apps on ICS. In the same way you can compare an old PC and a new PC. Old one will run games ok under Win XP. New one will run games the same under Win7. But if you install Win7 on the old PC the system itself will run fine, simple tasks will run as well as on the new one but you will not be able to play your games anymore.
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Comparing windows to android is like comparing a toyota to a benz.
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The idea is the same. Comparison to windows was merely to exemplify my point.
haerigrek said:
The idea is the same. Comparison to windows was merely to exemplify my point.
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I got your point (edit: maybe I didn't), but it is not the same to put a benz engine in a toyota frame than a toyota engine in a benz.
Android is basically linux (someone correct me if I wrong), and linux is developed in such a way you can put it in older machines and works much better than windows in the same machine.
If android follows the same philosophy, then there is no reason why a fully optimized ics or jb can't work on our dhd's/inspires.
I may be wrong and I may have digressed from your initial premise, if I did sorrry.
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I got your point (edit: maybe I didn't), but it is not the same to put a benz engine in a toyota frame than a toyota engine in a benz.
Android is basically linux (someone correct me if I wrong), and linux is developed in such a way you can put it in older machines and works much better than windows in the same machine.
If android follows the same philosophy, then there is no reason why a fully optimized ics or jb can't work on our dhd's/inspires.
I may be wrong and I may have digressed from your initial premise, if I did sorrry.
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You are correct. Because every update does not make the system resource heavy, but its optimized so it runs smoother and buttery good, like jelly bean. Its not like windows - they are heavier and heavier because they want people to buy new computers. Remember - windows has 85% sales when people buy windows preinstalled on computers. You cant compare it with android or cars (cars and engine - you are talking hardware here, we are all about software)
miHah said:
Hello everybody.
If anyone is interested how our device performs next to the "big boy" like One X, here is a video showing you exactly that.
Besides, it prooves absolutely the oposite of what HTC have said about our device running better android 2.3.5 than android 4.0.
Make love, not war!
miHah
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I.. do not fully understand. You show a video proving the animation speeds are the same? If im not mistaken, arnt the animations made to run at a certain speed? If thats the case then the video really doesnt prove anything between the two phones.
HTC should learn something from this.. The developers in XDA can do this so why cant the engineers at HTC??
They should hire their developers from XDA
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I.. do not fully understand. You show a video proving the animation speeds are the same? If im not mistaken, arnt the animations made to run at a certain speed? If thats the case then the video really doesnt prove anything between the two phones.
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In video it was pointed out that all setting on both phones are the same, so its all matter of harware how the phones perform.
ErnestoD said:
Thanks a lot man U have just confirmed what we all were suspecting. This device is more than capable for running ICS and HTC just want us to buy another cellphone
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We all know HTC i not being sincere by saying we wont have a nice experience on ICS... Its just some marketing decisions.. Stupid company..