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why would I want a Xoom

I have a rooted galaxy 7 and like it but the 199 deal has gotten my attention. So sell me on the xoom

Come on guys, help me out here

The Xoom has a high quality build, 10.1 inch screen, Honeycomb with ICS in progress (thanks Solarnz), sweet rom, Overclock to 1.7Ghz, playback of high quality videos, 32gb of storage, 5Ghz compatible Wifi, although the screen might not be the best quality, it's accurate and doesn't have issues (like lines or bubbles or anything) why the heck wouldn't you want it man? Have any questions, feel free to ask!

Will I need totally different chargers for it than the usual Micro usb stuff I have for my Incredible2? Does it play .Avi files?? I take it its easily rooted now and we have good custom roms? are there many Devels for it?

It does not charge off of Micro USB, it instead uses it's own motorola charger (which allows for much faster charging although obviously isn't as convenient. It sure does play .avi files, and rather well at that. I've never had an issue with them. There is only 1 real custom ROM (due to the lack of Honeycomb Source code until about 2 weeks ago). But it's rather nice in my opinion. The same developer that made those is also working on ICS at the moment and we're expecting some great things out of that. It is pretty easily rooted if you know how to work with adb even just a little.
Devels?

Pm sent What is ICS?

omac_ranger said:
It does not charge off of Micro USB, it instead uses it's own motorola charger (which allows for much faster charging although obviously isn't as convenient. It sure does play .avi files, and rather well at that. I've never had an issue with them. There is only 1 real custom ROM (due to the lack of Honeycomb Source code until about 2 weeks ago). But it's rather nice in my opinion. The same developer that made those is also working on ICS at the moment and we're expecting some great things out of that. It is pretty easily rooted if you know how to work with adb even just a little.
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There are two major development teams for the Xoom, Team Tiamat and Team Rogue. They're both terrific. I can't wait to see what they come up with for their ICS ports.

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There are two major development teams for the Xoom, Team Tiamat and Team Rogue. They're both terrific. I can't wait to see what they come up with for their ICS ports.
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Amen to that.

For your video playback need use Mxplayer.It plays all videos i throw to it.
The screen is average(not the best around),the build quality is awesome,the weight is just a bit heavier than ipad2 but its reasonable because of its build quality.
And its speakers sound quality is awesome! :0
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Pm sent What is ICS?
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ICS is Ice Cream Sandwich. its the latest verion of Android OS.it combines the goodness of honeycomb and gingerbread with alot of new features added

Bobby Buggs said:
I have a rooted galaxy 7 and like it but the 199 deal has gotten my attention. So sell me on the xoom
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Well I guess you need to be sold on Honeycomb plus taking on a $30 a month data plan. I saw the $199 deal and got mad at first since I paid $599...but the $199 deal requires you to get a $30/month plan...which if you crunch the numbers for 2 years doesn't look too pretty.
As for the Xoom itself, I have nothing but good things to say about it. As previous posters mentioned the build quality is great, a little heavy but everything about it feels "solid". I have to put the HDMI out as a big feature. Think of the Xoom as a media player/tablet will play *most* of your music/video/pictures, on the big beautiful screen or through HDMI to your TV... but then it's also a damn excellent Android tablet that runs Honeycomb and WILL get Ice Cream Sandwich. Xoom gets a bad rep cause of the 4G upgrade debacle and the fact that it's not an "iPad killer", but IDGAF about any of that and you shouldn't either. It's a sweet device, bottom line...don't let "market share" stray you from Android tablets.. If anything to stray you beware of that Verizon deal because at the end of the contract you'll have spent over $900. If you already have a data plan on your Galaxy Tab then that might not be a big issue.

i just got it, i was afraid about the screen but i find its really good. I must say i have the sharp panel and except for a some ghosting,its doing very well. The acer iconia 500 has a real ****ty screen, you can see some thin lines all over the surface,colors are washed out and there is as much ghosting as for the xoom. On the other hand the asus transformer has vibrant colors and deep back, but the tactil layer is very visible and i dont like that. The xoom doesnt have all these isues. On most benchmarks it is often first or second. The battery use is the best than all devices for watching movies, every reviews agree about that, and it is the faster for charging.
Just hope you can get the sharp screen and not the auo ... this stuff is really boring, everyone should have the same device because we all pay the same price.

enjoy and welcome to the family. I was just about to toss my hat in the ring for this one but then I saw you picked one up. Good move. I recently bought a wifi version off of craigslist for $225 then found the moto fold case and standard dock for $40 (total). Sure the xoom is old... but that doesn't mean spit. Check out speck comparisons between the xoom and any new tablet today over at theverge.com. spec for spec the xoom is hanging with them all PLUS a barometer. I'm quite happy with my purchase. plus the dev scene is pretty active. The xoom is a GREAT buy still.

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Just hope you can get the sharp screen and not the auo ... this stuff is really boring, everyone should have the same device because we all pay the same price.
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How would I know the difference.

I love my Xoom. It has a great build quality, the screen is great (I don't care if it isn't IPS, you won't notice it unless you do a side-by-side), it's the Google Device so easy to root, great speakers, and you get used to the power button easy (and I actually prefer it to the power buttons placed on the rim.)
It's also funny to give people the Xoom and watch them try to find the power button. But it's really a fantastic device that is probably only outclassed based on its screen.
It charges fast, too - like, REALLY fast. I think it has to do with it having two 3150mAh batteries and the proprietary charger. I thought the charger would be a nuisance but when the battery on my Xoom is low, I throw it on the charger for half an hour and it's up to 50% charge. It's fantastic in every way IMO.
I also got mine wi-fi 32GB refurbished for $329, and I do have a stuck pixel, but it doesn't bother me in the same way dust under my phone screen is a minor nuisance.
Don't forget the ROMs and kernels out there - I've tried them all and they've brought nothing but great improvements to my Xoom. I specifically love Tiamat's quick controls - the Xoom makes a good albeit awkward flashlight!

I'd only bother to sell it to you if I were getting commission. Go take a look at it and decide for yourself if it's worth $200 on contract. 8 months ago, I thought it was worth $600 on contract. I was wrong. They've finally delivered on the promises and I was able to cancel my BBB complaint.
I'm not sure it's worth paying $400 more than you in order to pay $10 less than you per month for data. You would still come out ahead by $160 without taxes. If I'm able to transfer this data plan to my next tablet, that would be good.
Sent from my Xoom using xda premium

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I would like to know the answer to this as well.
Edit: Never mind, Found it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159038 unless that is no longer relevant.

Vengfulr3ap3r said:
I would like to know the answer to this as well.
Edit: Never mind, Found it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159038 unless that is no longer relevant.
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That discussion is still relevant. With a few exceptions, the Xoom screens are quite good...you would know it if you had a bad one, and you can't really tell by whether it's Sharp or AUO.

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That discussion is still relevant. With a few exceptions, the Xoom screens are quite good...you would know it if you had a bad one, and you can't really tell by whether it's Sharp or AUO.
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Alright cool, I was mostly referring to the commands to see which specific screen you have and such. But as you said, you cant tell by brand alone. Heres to hoping my xoom has a good screen

Picked one up for 199.99 for the wife she had been wanting a tablet with a ffc and data already included. This was a no brainer for me she doesn't care for wifi only versions that much because she really enjoys the back up of having data built into something. First impressions we both love it, I have a first Gen Ipad but I am sold on android tablets now after playing with hers for just a few minutes. Can't wait to pick up an android tablet for myself in the near future.

Having issues with Prime wifi. Best bet to get TF101?

So I received my Transformer Prime today and am having wifi issues (very poor connection strength). Also, I have a group of very bright pixels on the screen.
I know there is a new Transformer tablet in the works that has significantly better specs...so I'd be best to wait. In the meantime, I found a mint TF101 with docking keyboard for $350. Everything checks out and it seems like a great package for the price. This coupled with ICS arriving in two weeks for the TF101 makes it a reasonable decision to return the defective Prime and get this original TF101 w/keyboard.
Is this a good move? I've never owned the original Transformer and hope that it is plenty fast to play flash content. Anyone care to offer a POV on this decision?
I plan on getting the newer Transformer in Q2 when it's rumored to release.

i think you should go for it !

I returned my Prime due to the "Unknown Serial Number", and bought the TF101. Although WiFi wasn't bad on my Prime, it is better on my TF101. My TF101 also performs flawlessly, and doesn't have any of the common issues some of the Primes suffer from. I'm happy I "downgraded".

I am in the same situation. I was contemplating the TF101 vs TF201. It was not an issue of money, though availability became an issue as TF201 stock got sold out. I just wanted a flawless Internet experience so having poor wifi was not good. It seems like Asus is in flux right now so better to get a stable machine. I will see what happens at the end of the year, maybe upgrade to TF700. I originally got a Windows tab which actually was not that bad of a touch experience. I had the Acer W500 which is the same form factor as the prime basically with the 10" tab and keyboard dock. It was also heavy, slow and the battery life was poor (<5 hours). I think the TF101 will be a lot of fun.

try the squeeze trick before returning. takes a couple seconds and ive heard it helps a lot of plagued tf201s. cant find the vid but just squeeze just above the entire top of the screen just enough to cause a little light bleed

try the squeeze trick before returning. takes a couple seconds and ive heard it helps a lot of plagued tf201s. cant find the vid but just squeeze just above the entire top of the screen just enough to cause a little light bleed
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But that isn't going to help the OP's pixel issue and pixel deformities are annoying as ****.
Just return it and either get the TF101 or wait for the TF700T. Really the TF101 should be much easier to find and much cheaper. You'll have less of a hassle finding it and it's tried and true. It was much too early for them to release the prime so it's not like you're losing something.

Interesting to see that I am not alone on this.
This week I returned my 3rd prime and was very close to say "Screw Asus" and look for a Windows tablet but then I thought why not give the original Transformer a shot. I got it yesterday and have to admit I am really impressed.
Everything works as it should, it has two USB ports instead of one, stereo speakers instead of one, a better hardware keyboard (at least in my opinion), the USB transfer rate seems to be much better, the screen seems to be more responsive and it is much cheaper.
And the funniest thing of em all: I don´t know why but it is even faster than Prime. Of course not in 3D games or stuff like that or 1080p videos etc.
But while doing normal usage, e-mailing, writing, watching videos, browsing etc.
And I havn´t even tried a custom ROM, yet.
Just to make this clear: I am comparing ICS Prime (three actually) to HC original Transformer. Which makes no sense to me.
So, the only few things that are better about the Prime are (in my opinion):
- It looks better
- It "look" better manufactured
- Slightly better battery life
- Slightly better display
- Smaller and lighter
And since I am planning to keep my Transformer only for a few months until the Padfone or the TF700 is out I think this was a really good decision.

prime is a prototype.. not ready for the public. it tells others that quad core is now possible/.

Came lookin' for the same question/answer. Have the T201 and has issues like 80% of everyone else. Bluetooth/wifi is a joke on the 201...I love using it for remote access to my Win7 box, but seems that when I'm streaming Spotify, if cuts out and loses connection. And, this is upstairs from my router 15 feet a way.
I guess it's time to research the h*** out of the T101 like I did the 201. 399 at bestbuy this week...will search for cheaper this week . . .

Me Too...Prime's WiFi WeaK Compared to Other Tablets
Thank you OP and other posters.
I too am about to return my Prime, and was wondering about the TF101 as a replacement.
I don't do much gaming but decided to buy the Prime since it was supposed to be state-of-the-art. Well, the WiFi just isn't as good as other tablets I've tested, both the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 and HTC Flyer get better WiFi at distance. I've moved my router and changed router settings so I get satisfactory WiFi now at home, but I'm worried about weak WiFi when I travel.
Son (who has the Galaxy 10.1) says I should return the Prime. So, now what to get? The Galaxy 10.1 looks like a very strong performer (especially so in WiFi), but was looking to see if the Original Transformer TF101 would be a good fit for me.
Just wondering what you all think? What will I "lose" if I "downgrade" to the Tf101?

Ride525 said:
Thank you OP and other posters.
I too am about to return my Prime, and was wondering about the TF101 as a replacement.
I don't do much gaming but decided to buy the Prime since it was supposed to be state-of-the-art. Well, the WiFi just isn't as good as other tablets I've tested, both the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 and HTC Flyer get better WiFi at distance. I've moved my router and changed router settings so I get satisfactory WiFi now at home, but I'm worried about weak WiFi when I travel.
Son (who has the Galaxy 10.1) says I should return the Prime. So, now what to get? The Galaxy 10.1 looks like a very strong performer (especially so in WiFi), but was looking to see if the Original Transformer TF101 would be a good fit for me.
Just wondering what you all think? What will I "lose" if I "downgrade" to the Tf101?
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Some pixels and the buggy software lol
I like Samsung, but galaxy does not have dock and Samsung had minimal support updates. Asus is spot on with their updates, despite the delay on ics for the tf101..

luna_c666 said:
Some pixels and the buggy software lol
I like Samsung, but galaxy does not have dock and Samsung had minimal support updates. Asus is spot on with their updates, despite the delay on ics for the tf101..
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Lose some pixels? What do you mean? Don't the Original Transformer and the Prime have the same resolution?
And what do you mean by buggy software? Is the Original Transformer's software more buggy, than the Primes? In what way? Or do you mean the Prime has more buggy software?
Thanks for any thoughts on my possible "downgrade".

Ride525 said:
Just wondering what you all think? What will I "lose" if I "downgrade" to the Tf101?
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Someone09 said:
So, the only few things that are better about the Prime are (in my opinion):
- It looks better
- It "look" better manufactured
- Slightly better battery life
- Slightly better display
- Smaller and lighter
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In short: If you can handle the size/weight and looks of the TF101, you should get it. Just my two cents.
EDIT: And of course the Prime´s camera is better and it behaves better with 3D games etc...at least in theory.

Ride525 said:
Lose some pixels? What do you mean? Don't the Original Transformer and the Prime have the same resolution?
And what do you mean by buggy software? Is the Original Transformer's software more buggy, than the Primes? In what way? Or do you mean the Prime has more buggy software?
Thanks for any thoughts on my possible "downgrade".
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You are right, my bad they do have the same size screen (I was thinking of the TF700) but the TF Prime has the 'Super IPS' screen and has more brightness (nits), but the ICS update has been bricking people's Primes, it also has crappy wifi/bluetooth as reported..
I say the TF101 is a safer bet, the TF201 is more a prototype as mentioned..not really ready for commercial consumption, more like the icebreaker paving the way for the real cargo ship (TF700)

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That is true, too. The question is if it worth it.
I mean if you turn Super IPS mode + highest brightness settings you might easily get a sunburn from it...I don´t need that setting.

Your only really option is to get the TF101. Everything else is not preferable based on price : features or price : performance ratio.
With the Galaxy Tab 10.1 you're paying too much for what you're getting, that is good hardware and a good design but no or little updates. The hardware is roughly comparable to the TF101 so really all that you're getting out of it is good design, no expansion slot, no/little updates and pay more. Do not want.
The TF101 hits the sweet spot in terms of what you get for how much you pay and you're guaranteed to get ICS and most likely more updates after that. We've been getting updates for HC like what, once or twice every two months? Don't even think you'll see anything close to that with Sammy. Maybe one update a year or two.
The TF201 is good looking and good hardware and it shares the same Asus speed in terms of upgrades but the connectivity and build quality + launch issues leave a lot to be desired. It's confidence shaking, would I want to keep a tablet where the Wi-Fi and GPS are already **** and there's a possibility it might get worse? For $500 and with a successor already on the horizon? Do not want. Really it was a rushed, piece of garbage that's DOA. This is what happened when they decided to rush something rather than do their time with more R&D and releasing it in a more suitable time frame. They should have released the Prime when the TF700T is scheduled to be released (whatever date that is) which in my eyes puts the TF700T as what the Prime should have been, AKA the fix.

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They should have released the Prime when the TF700T is scheduled to be released (whatever date that is) which in my eyes puts the TF700T as what the Prime should have been, AKA the fix.
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Amen to that.
Plus, I hope the same applies to the Padfone.

The TF101 has much better WiFi than the Prime.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk

ericshmerick said:
I know there is a new Transformer tablet in the works that has significantly better specs...so I'd be best to wait. In the meantime, I found a mint TF101 with docking keyboard for $350. Everything checks out and it seems like a great package for the price. This coupled with ICS arriving in two weeks for the TF101 makes it a reasonable decision to return the defective Prime and get this original TF101 w/keyboard.
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Honestly, the TF101 will likely be better than that successor model, too. The latter has far too high screen resolution, which will lead to problems in some apps, give no advantage at all in most apps (just extra blur from scaling), and cause eye strain in some apps. As an added bonus, it'll reduce battery life and make everything slower.
All so Asus can put a bigger-is-better number on a spec sheet.
They got it right with the TF101, by and large. They're struggling to invent a reason for people to upgrade, and not doing a great job of it.

Being an early adopter of the TF101(my first one was a B40) I had to deal with the pain of owning a new model. Asus has been right on time with their updates and they pay attention to what people post on the internet. It is my opinion that in a few months the Prime will be ready for prime time. But until then I will do my best to wear out my B50 Transformer. It is a great little device totally stock.

Asus tf300

Just received my brand new TF300. So far I'm very impressed! Everything is running smooth as silk, unlike my TF101 with ICS LWP are choppy, not on the TF300. Its only been a few hours so I cant tell if it is plagued with reboots or SOD yet. But I will keep everyone updated if it does. I bought this one for my Wife, and I wish I would have waited before buying my TF101. Its sleek, lighter, tad more comfortable to hold. I like the power button placement and just the general looks of it. The Tegra 3 is now a new must have, 1gig of DDR3 ram, 32 gig memory. All for the same price as I paid for my TF101, you really cant go wrong buying the TF300 instead. One thing about ASUS that I'm not happy with is their QC. I went through 2 TF101's before getting one that didnt have crap under the screen. Same with this one... its not bad enough to send this one back but it was the first thing I noticed. A little tiny silver dot that isn't going to wipe off. Can hardly tell its there with the screen off, but I was looking really hard for it. Screen on no problems, light bleed on the screen is still and Issue as well. Its not bad but on a really black screen its noticeable. All in all I'm really happy with this purchase. I know ASUS doesn't have the greatest track record with some of there products. But I've spent a lot of time playing with all of the tablets that are out there. IMHO Asus has the best out there. Asus and Nvidia will eventually get the bugs worked out of the 101 but in the mean time I think that even if the other tabs don't have reboots and sod's I still wouldn't buy one. Don't get me wrong I'm not an Asus fanboy, but I do believe they have some of the best hardware out there. Its really and amazing Tablet especially compared to the TF101, and I assume the Prime too as wifi and gps work great! Now I hope Root will be easily achievable, Going to try viper from the prime and see it that works, will report Back.
Edit: Viper 4.5 does not work. oh well at least it didn't break it!

Actually I cancelled my pre-order because despite the new quadcore chips on the Asus, I have not seen any substantial app development to justify the purchase of the 300. As far as spec, the Tegra 3 is the only difference between it and the 101. For what I'm doing at the moment, the 101 is more than capable. Also, Nvidia keeps advertising about the 'boatload' of Tegra3 games coming soon, where is it?
I will save my money for now, the TF101 is still the best bang for the buck.

I picked mine up today at Best Buy. They only had the 16GB version, and I would have preferred the 32GB version since its only $20 more, but I couldn't wait any loner and since I have a 32GB memory cars, I have no issues with space.
So far I can't say I like it more than my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1. I find the screen to be a little washed out, and the screen is not as responsive as Samsung. I find myself hitting the screen multiple times. This might go back. I'll give it a few more days.
Swyped from my Samsung Epic 4g Touch with a bite of VeNuM.

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Actually I cancelled my pre-order because despite the new quadcore chips on the Asus, I have not seen any substantial app development to justify the purchase of the 300. As far as spec, the Tegra 3 is the only difference between it and the 101. For what I'm doing at the moment, the 101 is more than capable. Also, Nvidia keeps advertising about the 'boatload' of Tegra3 games coming soon, where is it?
I will save my money for now, the TF101 is still the best bang for the buck.
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Hell where are all the Tegra 2 games at! LOL!!! For my needs the 101 is perfect and I personally don't need a quad core either, but if I didn't already have one and had to choose between the two I would go for the TF300. Don't forget the TF101 only has DDR2 Ram and the TF300 has DDR3 and at 399 for the 32gig, its a no brainier. I paid 399 for my 16gig 101 five months ago, so I kinda feel ripped off!!! I would pass up the prime for this one, Its just not worth the extra 150 bucks.
Ive been comparing them all day and the TF300 is getting better battery life then my 101 on ICS. I have the screen brightness about the same. I'm just really impressed on how well it runs. Its like greased butter in an rocket sled running down hill. HAHA been doing stupid stuff like installing the same apps at the same time the 300 will install twice as fast. wifi seems to have a stronger signal, gps connected in about 10 sec. slow but its been cloudy and raining here all day so 10 sec is very good. Just happy with my purchase and I'm sure most others will be happy too.

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Hell where are all the Tegra 2 games at! LOL!!! For my needs the 101 is perfect and I personally don't need a quad core either, but if I didn't already have one and had to choose between the two I would go for the TF300. Don't forget the TF101 only has DDR2 Ram and the TF300 has DDR3 and at 399 for the 32gig, its a no brainier. I paid 399 for my 16gig 101 five months ago, so I kinda feel ripped off!!! I would pass up the prime for this one, Its just not worth the extra 150 bucks.
Ive been comparing them all day and the TF300 is getting better battery life then my 101 on ICS. I have the screen brightness about the same. I'm just really impressed on how well it runs. Its like greased butter in an rocket sled running down hill. HAHA been doing stupid stuff like installing the same apps at the same time the 300 will install twice as fast. wifi seems to have a stronger signal, gps connected in about 10 sec. slow but its been cloudy and raining here all day so 10 sec is very good. Just happy with my purchase and I'm sure most others will be happy too.
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Hehe, i got my tf101 like two weeks ago for $250 manufacturer refurbished.
Ill probably get the tf300 next year when they're cheaper too and pass this one along to my brother or something. Lol
This is all I need for now, gets the job done
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Does the 300 play hd mkv files? Also whats the difference between 300 and 700? Other than the 1080p screen res on700
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daz_2000 said:
Does the 300 play hd mkv files? Also whats the difference between 300 and 700? Other than the 1080p screen res on700
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The 300 is the downside of the Prime while the 700 is the upside. In addition to a 1.6ghz quadcore and 1900x1200 res, I'm hoping that Asus will make the 700 into 10" and 12" tablets with full usb, e-sata, hdmi, wireless joystick, and wireless keyboard ports. That would really blow the pants out of the Ipad.

Screw tegra 3. Give me 4gb of ram and stability and I'll be as happy as a pig in ****.
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Apart from the rather mediocre video playback, the TF is more than enough for my needs.
Although Im a little bit annoyed that I didnt wait buying a new tablet until the TF300 came out. They are listed at the same price! lol
But thats my own fault. I knew there were new tegra3 tablets due to release in late april/early may.
And I dont regret getting the 101. But still......

I just bought this tablet, it should be here on my doorstep by Thursday. The TF300 is going to be my first Android tablet so I hope that I'm going to be happy with it.

I was interested in the Transformer 300, for those that have both the 300 and the OG, would stuff like browsing the web be faster? Basically the difference is the Tegra 3 chip (is this mostly for games??) For now the OG TF will do for me, at least for another yr when hopefully the upgrade will really be felt.

El Niche said:
I was interested in the Transformer 300, for those that have both the 300 and the OG, would stuff like browsing the web be faster? Basically the difference is the Tegra 3 chip (is this mostly for games??) For now the OG TF will do for me, at least for another yr when hopefully the upgrade will really be felt.
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The faster chip allows newer games that run smoother and have better graphics but so far Tegra 3 games are few and far in between. Browsing speed depends not only on the tablet but also on the wifi connection. The 101 does everything for me, great multimedia device that plays HD movies and Tegra 2 games. I will wait until the next generation of tablets come out, quadcores are still in development stage.

Just to prove the high demand for the TF101, Newegg is sold out of the 32gb refurbished, while Amazon sells brand new 32gb TF101 for $549.99 tablet only. That's $150 more than a brand new 32gb TF300 with a faster 1.2ghz Tegra 3 chip. People are definitely buying this tablet over the more recent models. Go figure.

Already there something wrong with the wifi...
On another thread..... try this turn your wifi and go 25 feet away from AP and check what it does .....

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Already there something wrong with the wifi...
On another thread..... try this turn your wifi and go 25 feet away from AP and check what it does .....
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i took mine about 40ft away and had it there for 10mins. still shows full wifi bars no matter how i turn/hold it. im also on power save mode as well. connection is working and streaming hd youtube with no issues. hmm
my wireless router is a linksys wrt54g running regular linksys firmware. with my phone and desktop connected to it.

I ordered a 300 from newegg but I will send it back and get a used 101 off of ebay($239), seeing how newegg is sold out of the refurbs, and see if the 700 will rule. I read the 700 will be 3G and LTE capable.

I just picked up a 300 and the dock. I'm hoping for somw development soon because I'd love to root it.
Edit: If you bought yours from best buy(16gb) and they get the 32gb version in within 30 days you can return it and pay the difference the two.
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just picked up a 16gb. some guy selling them brand new with dock for $400 on craigslist, jumped on it. hoping for develpment soon too.

roketman600 said:
just picked up a 16gb. some guy selling them brand new with dock for $400 on craigslist, jumped on it. hoping for develpment soon too.
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Considering the terrible luck many of us had with the tf101, you're likely going to need that warranty for your TF300. You got a good deal,but you might be stuck with a problem unit and then what?
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You can buy a brand new 101 for $299 at an unnamed store right now. I am debating between that for a Galaxy Tab 2 tomorrow. I like 7 inch tablets, and looked at them both today at Bestbuy for comparison before I drive out of my way to this store. Screen is definately nicer on the Transformer. I wont use for gaming, so is this a no brainer? Transformer or Gtab 2?

Final Question,Should we buy nexus 10 or not!

So after going thru many reviews here's what i have come across
1)Slow charging
2)Lil lags-I guess(Note sure)
3)Not many apps
So final question are you people still buying it?
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2 weeks ago I was all on board
.Now I am taking the wait and see approach before spending.Once enough get the tablets where you can see for sure what works/don't work I will make a decision.I really want it to be great as I am buying a tablet for home use but it is going to have to do the things I want or no deal.

Wait unless you have to have one now.
There's a high probability of Sammy offering similar tablet of their own - before or @ CES. One with same rez, a dock, microSD, stylus etc. That would be a killer tablet 4 sure. I am sure their contract with goog stipulates they can not announce de-facto competitor to N10 for some time.
For the life of me I dont understand what is in it for Sammy, when it comes down to N10. They already are a well known and #1 vendor... just dont understand it.
They could have had a much higher profit margin on a $600 killer tablet of their own and could have moved a billion of them w/o any assistance from cupertino, TouchWiz and all...

Well i already told my Uncle in USA to order one for me, Due to the shortage of time

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There's a high probability of Sammy offering similar tablet of their own - before or @ CES. One with same rez, a dock, microSD, stylus etc. That would be a killer tablet 4 sure. I am sure their contract with goog stipulates they can not announce de-facto competitor to N10 for some time
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Google said the reason for no micro SD is because it is so difficult to get it working right with multiple users that will be added to Android 4.2, so aftermarket tablets probably wont have a microSD either or they will not support multiple users.
You would also have a locked bootloader that first has to be cracked, non-existent or very late kernel source, and probably late ROM source. The Nexus is a much better choice IMO than waiting for a hopeful model that may or may not even end up with the features you want

dont worry about the "not many apps" thing. "retina-like" display is becoming the standard, so apps will support it.
I might or might not get it. But Im not ordering it. I will wait for walmart and more reviews.

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So after going thru many reviews here's what i have come across
1)Slow charging
2)Lil lags-I guess(Note sure)
3)Not many apps
So final question are you people still buying it?
Benchmarks have improved in todays update
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It's up to you... no one can make that decision for you. For me, I didn't need to see much after the first handful of reviews, I was convinced then. Having Miracast will be nice, if and when it comes, but if not I already have a superb quality HDMI to Micro (read: NOT Mini) HDMI cable which I'll use to play movies on my HDTV. My use of the device for magazine reading, book reading, web browsing, game playing, and YouTube watching more than justifies the price in my book. But my uses for the device may not be the same as another person's, hence why this is a personal decision. Again, you should decide rather than asking others to convince you.

I ordered one today. I don't see either of the things you mentioned as a deal breaker for me.
The battery will be sufficient that I won't need to change and use it.
Haven't seen much lag in any video reviews. Any mention of it is probably an application issue or something that will be fixed in the os in the worst case scenario. Based on specs, lag shouldn't be a problem for this device.
It all comes down to what you want. If you want a 10" android tablet, I would get this. If you want something better, I'm sure something will be released eventually.

I've heard there are plans for a tablet clocked at 3GHz in 2019, might be worth waiting for that.
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Kookas said:
I've heard there are plans for a tablet clocked at 3GHz in 2019, might be worth waiting for that.
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No way really? Definitely going to hold out for it.

Dude wait. In 2020 there will be a octacore 3.5ghz version that shoots lasers, projects holograms, and goes to work for you. In all seriousness though l ordered it.

I have no clue if my Uncle ordered it or not

Is it in STOCK??? when will the restock ittttttt

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Wait unless you have to have one now.
There's a high probability of Sammy offering similar tablet of their own - before or @ CES. One with same rez, a dock, microSD, stylus etc. That would be a killer tablet 4 sure. I am sure their contract with goog stipulates they can not announce de-facto competitor to N10 for some time.
For the life of me I dont understand what is in it for Sammy, when it comes down to N10. They already are a well known and #1 vendor... just dont understand it.
They could have had a much higher profit margin on a $600 killer tablet of their own and could have moved a billion of them w/o any assistance from cupertino, TouchWiz and all...
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The Wacom S-Pen will not be available on any high resolution tablet in the immediate future. Wacom does not support the higher pixel density displays unfortunately.

I say get it ^_^
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GSLEON3 said:
The Wacom S-Pen will not be available on any high resolution tablet in the immediate future. Wacom does not support the higher pixel density displays unfortunately.
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That would make sense when thinking of the Gnote 10.1's measly 1280x800 display.

I don't regret one second I ordered It and love it. I have the 10.1 and just took back the nexus 7. Worth every penny!!!! My only complaint and very minor at that. Which can be fixed with a custom ROM which I plan on doing but my laptop broke, is the placement of the soft keys. Why on earth would they place them in the center on a 10" amazes me lol. But one outstanding performing tablet!!! If you wait you'll regret it,
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i think i will
I think i will order it through uncle in US .. only one thing which pulls me back is unavailability of warranty/support in India..

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The Wacom S-Pen will not be available on any high resolution tablet in the immediate future. Wacom does not support the higher pixel density displays unfortunately.
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But the Note has a ppi close to the N10, 285? why wouldn't it support the resolution?

RockZors said:
But the Note has a ppi close to the N10, 285? why wouldn't it support the resolution?
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I'm sure they can support higher PPI. I think it's just the cost that's setting them back. Just imagine what the Note 10.1 must have costed if it did have a 1080p screen.

I sold it

Hey guys, thanks for the time here. I just sold my G Pad for around 70% of the price I got it for.. I ended up getting one of the Samsung Tab PRO's, I gotta say, nice tablet. Hardware keys, suck.. Will take some time getting used to. I bought the 10 incher..
There is absolutely no development going on so I am looking into the Exynos processor of the tablet and I downloaded the KK open source code.. I'm hoping that I can figure out how to build a rom and kernel from scratch so I can get CM on it.
Anyways, what I wanted to say was that the G Pad was a great device and I had big troubles choosing between keeping it or going for a new tablet. In my opinion going from a G Pad to a Tab PRO 8 incher wouldof been a waste, unless it was all about the screen and the colours. The G Pad has a great display for reading and such.. I think I'll miss reading books on it because this 10 incher will need to have portrait mode and split the pages in two "like a book", it works but it's not the same, lol. TouchWiz isn't so bad anymore but I replaced the launcher with Nova.. The rest is bearable I'd say.
Well guys, being on the G Pad forums has shown me that even if the community isn't the biggest, there's graet people and you actually get to know people a bit better and you can sorta do a road map on who does what on the device. I think that's great and I've enjoyed writing with you and to you.
- I still don't know if it was the right decision to sell the G Pad. Time will tell. Anyways, have fun, hope to see you around somewhere.
/CuraeL

CuraeL said:
- I still don't know if it was the right decision to sell the G Pad. Time will tell. Anyways, have fun, hope to see you around somewhere.
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You goofed. Sorry.... Just kidding.
.... but enjoy your device whatever it might be. I think the first thing to consider when trading for another device or buy any, is what you plan for it. A 10-inch tablet is a completely different experience, and changes what you would use it for. Consider the IR Blaster on the G Pad. Even if the 10-incher has it, can you really see yourself using a TEN INCH remote control?
I had a Nook HD+ 8.9 inches prior to the G Pad, and I am a dedicated reader. I enjoyed the large, high-resolution screen, but found it a little too big for lots of reading. The G Pad, despite being only half an inch smaller in screen size, looks MUCH smaller next to the Nook, mostly due to how thin it is, and the super small bezels. For my own purposes, I have found it to be the perfect size. Still, it all depends on what one's priorities are, so there is no 'best tablet'. There is only the best tablet for you.

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You goofed. Sorry.... Just kidding.
.... but enjoy your device whatever it might be. I think the first thing to consider when trading for another device or buy any, is what you plan for it. A 10-inch tablet is a completely different experience, and changes what you would use it for. Consider the IR Blaster on the G Pad. Even if the 10-incher has it, can you really see yourself using a TEN INCH remote control?
I had a Nook HD+ 8.9 inches prior to the G Pad, and I am a dedicated reader. I enjoyed the large, high-resolution screen, but found it a little too big for lots of reading. The G Pad, despite being only half an inch smaller in screen size, looks MUCH smaller next to the Nook, mostly due to how thin it is, and the super small bezels. For my own purposes, I have found it to be the perfect size. Still, it all depends on what one's priorities are, so there is no 'best tablet'. There is only the best tablet for you.
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Haha, the remote control I use my G2 for.. It has a working remote for CM builds, last time I checked myself, been a while, the G Pad didn't have that. I find it rather weird at all, to use the IR blaster on such a big device to replace such a small peripheral such as a regular remote control.
Oh yeah, the bezel on the G Pad is amazing, it was indeed a joy to read on. I got an iPad Air at work some weeks ago and I tried to use it for a while, haven't held an Apple device since the iPod Touch gen1, it's changed, but I still don't enjoy the UI so when I saw the big screen, I liked it.. And thought about a bigger android tablet.. So I got this one.. There is a downside to anything I guess.. I love reading my comics on the 10 incher tho.. Nice and crisp as on the G Pad, just bigger.. But yeah, reading books will be different.. Entirely different now.
And yeah, I never owned a 10 inch before the iPad for a few weeks.. The gripe with the Samsung device is that it's not easily held with one hand.. Simply too big. But YouTube and movies.. I use it for that as well.. Where bigger seems better to me.. Again.. Trade offs.. I dunno, I just might find an 8 incher again at some point to do the reading on.. Who knows.. Nothing wrong with having an extra device. All I know is that 7 inches is too small and I'm leaving my old Nexus 7 2012 to rot.. Mhm..
Well, at least I'm on my way to knowing a bit more about tablet sizes, as you've had your experiences.. There's a lot to consider when getting a bigger or smaller tablet. So at least now I've had one of "each".. And like I said.. Pro's and cons for both.. There's just some things the 8 incher does better.

I'd love to get a TabPro 8.4. But I just couldn't justify the cost when I got my 8.3 for for $150 less. 10" tablets are just too big for me.

man 70% less is like $160, id gladly pay so much if anyone were to give up their like new gpad , been scouting for a like new at this price, most issues arent deal breakers and can easily be fixed, if anyone looking to sell one so cheap , please think of me

I been thinking of selling the tab 3 for a pro 8.4. But im waiting for a nice price drop. Looks cool.
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The Guy Has Guts...
CuraeL said:
I just sold my G Pad for around 70% of the price I got it for.. I ended up getting one of the Samsung Tab PRO's, I gotta say, Hardware keys, suck..
I still don't know if it was the right decision to sell the G Pad
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You Have To Admire This Guy..
To go from a tablet with Good Development to an (Octacore) tablet that has No Development on the SoC takes Guts.
I did that with my first N7-2013.. I got sick of the screen size and returned it on the 13th day for a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8.0.. At the time, there was Zero Development for it as well... and I almost went Insane being an XDA Member with a Tablet that I could do nothing with accept root it..
As a matter of fact on the 14th (Last) day I could return the Tab 3 8.0 I did... and got a Note 8.0.. at least it had some development going for it..
So.. hats off to this XDA Member.. to make such a bold investment in hopes of a better future with his Octacore 10.1..

You know Samsung will just make an amoled display for the 8" and then you'd have to return that one lol I enjoyed my amoled 7.7 but it had its' share of issues. I'm flash happy with my phone, but with my tablet I juat want to chill.

Thanks for all the replies guys.
I gotta say at this point in time I am only satisfied with the big screen. When the Exynos processor has been sleeping it takes a good 4-6 seconds before the device reacts to input. Also in those seconds even the bluetooth connection to my hi-fi suffers from stuttering. It seems poorly executed with 2xquad core.. Oh well, can't win em all. The speed is fine when it's up and running. But the stuttering makes it feel like it needs to re-fuel or something, lol. Guess I'll roll with this until something new shows up. Not a lot of 10 inchers on the market, why I went with this supposedly bad boy. It's kinda disappointing. ^^ And btw. yes I would very much have liked amoled.. The LCD on this fella also suffers from light bleed and has that weird, griddy-pixely look on small text. Me no liekee. It is a beastly tablet, it just has it's quirks, just like the G Pad had, but at least the processor on that one was one that devs had time for. I've been looking at the Exynos' for a while now and it seems like the Cyanogen boys gave that shiet up time ago due to source codes not really being released, or at least the kernels and such. I looked at what I could find and I didn't know where to begin with making kernel and eventually a ROM. I'd prolly just brick it.

CuraeL said:
Thanks for all the replies guys.
I gotta say at this point in time I am only satisfied with the big screen. When the Exynos processor has been sleeping it takes a good 4-6 seconds before the device reacts to input. Also in those seconds even the bluetooth connection to my hi-fi suffers from stuttering. It seems poorly executed with 2xquad core.. Oh well, can't win em all. The speed is fine when it's up and running. But the stuttering makes it feel like it needs to re-fuel or something, lol. Guess I'll roll with this until something new shows up. Not a lot of 10 inchers on the market, why I went with this supposedly bad boy. It's kinda disappointing. ^^ And btw. yes I would very much have liked amoled.. The LCD on this fella also suffers from light bleed and has that weird, griddy-pixely look on small text. Me no liekee. It is a beastly tablet, it just has it's quirks, just like the G Pad had, but at least the processor on that one was one that devs had time for. I've been looking at the Exynos' for a while now and it seems like the Cyanogen boys gave that shiet up time ago due to source codes not really being released, or at least the kernels and such. I looked at what I could find and I didn't know where to begin with making kernel and eventually a ROM. I'd prolly just brick it.
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I believe that most of the people who own a G Pad prefer the 8" format to the 10" format. But I guess that the 8" model probably has the same performance issues that you're seeing with the 10" model. Maybe somebody will find a way to tweak it to fix the lag issue.

I bought it a few days ago. It's nice for sure. My only gripe is that it seems that development is dead on it which is a shame. I've never been a huge CM fan. Tried Mahdi Rom and got rid of it within 5 minutes.I'll just keep it stock and rooted.

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I bought it a few days ago. It's nice for sure. My only gripe is that it seems that development is dead on it which is a shame. I've never been a huge CM fan. Tried Mahdi Rom and got rid of it within 5 minutes.I'll just keep it stock and rooted.
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Mine will be here in 2 days. You dont like any other ROM?

chong67 said:
Mine will be here in 2 days. You dont like any other ROM?
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Eh, I try to avoid CM but might try something else.

sefirosu0522 said:
Eh, I try to avoid CM but might try something else.
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Try the GPE ROM and just theme the heck out of it?

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Try the GPE ROM and just theme the heck out of it?
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I thought you couldn't do that because of the different hardware? I could be wrong.

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I thought you couldn't do that because of the different hardware? I could be wrong.
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My mistake; I thought I'd read about a GPE conversions, but if there is, I can't find it. I'm unaware of any hardware differences between the 2 versions though. Unless you're talking about the Verizon one. But really, I don't know either way.

I like my G Pad. For the price, I keep it until another good sale comes along.

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I believe that most of the people who own a G Pad prefer the 8" format to the 10" format. But I guess that the 8" model probably has the same performance issues that you're seeing with the 10" model. Maybe somebody will find a way to tweak it to fix the lag issue.
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Hey Woody, no, the 8 inch Samsung device features the same resolution and 2 gigs of ram, that's where it stops being the same. It has a snapdragon 800 under the hood and thus has a few roms including an unofficial CM11. What I don't understand is that XDA put the 3 tablets into the same forums.. 8 inch has Snapdragon, 10 incher has 2 gigs of ram and Exynos and the 12 incher has 3 gigs of ram and Exynos. None of the devices are 100% identical specwise. Usually that could have been, with different screen sizes.. But this is not the case.. So it baffles me. 8.4 has taken over and well.. I guess there would be even drier on those forums if it hadn't been for those guys. But oh well, lol. Don't care much for that tablet. Then I wouldof stuck with the G Pad.
I mean.. I haven't even rooted the device, lol.
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I thought you couldn't do that because of the different hardware? I could be wrong.
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You can't. Don't flash it. Last time I checked, that didn't work. But who cares man, get some other AOSP rom on it. There's a few to choose from when it comes to the G Pad. And these days, it runs em smooth.