I could have sworn during the I/O conference it as stated that the Nexus 7 has a 12 core GPU that was separate than the 4 core CPU and that someone said the Tegra 3 in the Prime has the CPU and CPU combined.
am i incorrect?
or is the Nexus 7 and Prime Tegra 3 CPU and GPU exactly the same?
As far as the quad core cpu, and 12 core gpu are configured it should be the same. But the cpu on the nexus is actually clocked lower then the prime.
As far as I know they are the exact same silicon containing 4 CPU cores and 12 GPU units but with different clock rates. The T30 in the Prime has 25% higher GPU clock rate compared to the T30L in the Nexus 7.
I don't think the difference is too significant. Much uglier is that the T33 in the Infinity has the same GPU speed as the T30 but is trying to push 2.25x as many pixels as the Prime or the N7.
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Which is the better GPU and why ?
I'm not sure of the technical reasons why, maybe people are just going off benchmarks, but the general consensus is that Adreno 220 has better gaming performance.
However, unless you are planning some hardcore gaming; Mali-400 MP or GeForce ULP will be just fine.
MALI-400 MP is imo a faster GPU but it really lacks stuff needed to be a good GPU. Also on the low level some of the major 3d scores are even lower than Adreno 205. So the quality here sucks. It misses many compression texture formats so low compatibility. Most games will come up with a solution for that but with time and that time could really end the life cycle of the gs2. Mali 400 is slower than adreno 205 in Geometric Tests, Common Tests, Exponential Tests. Adreno 220 will be a slightly slower GPU in synthetic tests but with more compatibility, better quality from the lower level, more texture compression formats and will be compatible with all games since start as adreno gpu games are already abundant in the market. So its more like a Samung delivered the fastest GPU with major flaws. Here Adreno 220 is like ATI and Nvidia and Mali-400 is like any other generic GPU from another company. And Galaxy S 2 coming in tegra 2 would really mess up the compatibility of Mali-400 seeing that Mali will be missing the number of devices so Mali - 400 could be a left out here.
Right now the game here is a Faster GPU (by a small margin) vs a more Compatible GPU. Better - if u can wait with no definite future mali and if u want everything now and in future its adreno
With CF working on compat I wouldnt be surprised if we're all playing Tegra Zone next month.
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With CF working on compat I wouldnt be surprised if we're all playing Tegra Zone next month.
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I agree. (10char)
Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked 1Ghz Mali 400
Dual Core Snapdragon GPU Performance Explored - 1.5 GHz MSM8660 and Adreno 220 Benchmarks 1.5Ghz Adreno 220
Should give you a rough idea of what to expect.
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Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked 1Ghz Mali 400
Dual Core Snapdragon GPU Performance Explored - 1.5 GHz MSM8660 and Adreno 220 Benchmarks 1.5Ghz Adreno 220
Should give you a rough idea of what to expect.
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No, it's not even close.
My Galaxy S II scores 42.2 fps in the same benchmark, Adreno scores an impressive 38 fps but this is with the CPU at 1.5GHz.
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Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked 1Ghz Mali 400
Dual Core Snapdragon GPU Performance Explored - 1.5 GHz MSM8660 and Adreno 220 Benchmarks 1.5Ghz Adreno 220
Should give you a rough idea of what to expect.
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No, this one is not accurate.
Just look at the firmware, SGS2 was running Android2.3.1 at the time, it was not a retail device.
Retail SGS2 outperforms anything currently in GLbench.
"Originally Posted by iwantandroid
I cried when I lerned this phone i got from tmobile didnt have Android. Can sum1 help me get Android on my new G1 and then tel me how to jailbroke it please"
LOL OMG
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Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked 1Ghz Mali 400
Dual Core Snapdragon GPU Performance Explored - 1.5 GHz MSM8660 and Adreno 220 Benchmarks 1.5Ghz Adreno 220
Should give you a rough idea of what to expect.
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these tests are kinda misleading, between non-final device/software and capped framerate
i'm a bit disappointed that it comes from anandtech since they usually try to have stuff all squared out on PCs ;-)
lol, you guys are very defensive about your phones, understandably.
What you should be able to ascertain though is that the 1Ghz Mali benchmarks are decent and you can expect better performance with it clocked at 1.2Ghz.
Conversely you should be able to see that the Adreno at 1.5Ghz, though impressive, will be less so clocked at 1Ghz like in the Sensation, which will also have a higher resolution screen.
I only provided the links so that people could make up their own mind by using the same logic.
Are you sure the Mali-400 is clocked at 1.2Ghz ?
Because when I overclocked my SGS2 to 1.5Ghz I saw a 25% performance increase in computing performance, but almost no increase at all in graphics performance (using GL Benchmark), so I thought the frequencies of the two were totally unrelated.
I dont know what the clock speeds of the GPU are, but CPU speed bumps will also help with 3D performance.
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I dont know what the clock speeds of the GOP are, but CPU speed bumps will also help with 3D performance.
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Well in my case it did not. I guess a dual core 1.2Ghz CPU is not a bottleneck on a smartphone lol.
Ive heard there are FPS caps on the Galaxy line, not sure how true this is, usually benchmarks should see an increase when handsets are overclocked.
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Ive heard there are FPS caps on the Galaxy line, not sure how true this is, usually benchmarks should see an increase when handsets are overclocked.
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its true for the sgs1 and 2 at least, frame rate is capped between 56 and 66 fps depending on kernels/versions etc
many benchmarks hit the cap (like quadrant)
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Is it true that the Nexus 10 has ONLY 2 cores?
How does google dare to put only 2 cores in nexus 10 vs the 4 cores of nexus 7?:crying:
OLYMPIAKOI said:
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Is it true that the Nexus 10 has ONLY 2 cores?
How does google dare to put only 2 cores in nexus 10 vs the 4 cores of nexus 7?:crying:
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I believe that the dual core A15 processor on the nexus 10 outperforms the tegra3 on the nexus 7. At least that's what their marketing team said.
Cores aren't everything
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The dual core in teh NExus 10 is suppsedly super fast and if rumours are to be right faster the the A6X in the Ipad
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I believe that the dual core A15 processor on the nexus 10 outperforms the tegra3 on the nexus 7. At least that's what their marketing team said.
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Yeah that might be true in marketing, BUT today in year 2012-13 --- FOUR CORES (4) is the standard....
That was a stupid move from google. A nexus 10 with 4 (A15 ) cores Would have been the smartest choice for 2560x1600 resolution and 9000 mah battery.:crying:
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Yeah that might be true in marketing, BUT today in year 2012-13 --- FOUR CORES (4) is the standard....
That was a stupid move from google. A nexus 10 with 4 (A15 ) cores Would have been the smartest choice for 2560x1600 resolution and 9000 mah battery.:crying:
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This.
I read Apple's newest iPad got a new processor as it was slower pushing all the pixels in the iPad 3. I wish I could find the link. However, it it's as fast or faster than the latest iPad, it should be fine.
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Yeah that might be true in marketing, BUT today in year 2012-13 --- FOUR CORES (4) is the standard....
That was a stupid move from google. A nexus 10 with 4 (A15 ) cores Would have been the smartest choice for 2560x1600 resolution and 9000 mah battery.:crying:
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That's not necessarily right
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I rather get dual core a15 better than quad core a9
yet its GPU is awesome, match with exynos 5250 = beast
The dual a15s are better than the s4 pro in the nexus 7. The exynos 5250 is the fastest chipset for phones and tablets so far
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The dual a15s are better than the s4 pro in the nexus 7. The exynos 5250 is the fastest chipset for phones and tablets so far
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Nexus 7 has a quad core Tegra3 not a s4.
Either way, no device has specs this awesome yet. Can't wait for benchmarks from the Exynos 5250 :good:
More goes into the speed of a processor than the number of cores/clock speed. Just because it is a dual core doesn't make it slower than a quadcore CPU. I would prefer a faster CPU than have a quad core that would actually be slower just to have 2 more cores
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4 cores and 2 gb of ram is perfect for multitasking, if the fastest processor up to today is the dual core A15, then google should have put - - - > 2 dual core A15 in the nexus 10,....
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How does the S4 Dual in the S3 stack up? is it still a good chip.
*face palm*
Seriously dude, they're not idiots. They know what they're doing. Do you really think Google ans Samsung would let the big new tablet be slower than the old small one? The Cortex A15 is over twice as fast as the old A9 cores so that more than makes up for that part and in addition has more single threaded performance which is what matters. Have you seen the Galaxy S3 with the Exynox in comparison to the S2? Its hardly faster because single threaded performance is more important.
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The dual a15s are better than the s4 pro in the nexus 7. The exynos 5250 is the fastest chipset for phones and tablets so far
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Not quite accurate. When it comes to CPU performance, according to Antutu the Exynos 5250 is about 20% slower overall than the S4 Pro. Of course the Exynos 5250 is a dual core, while S4 Pro is quad, which means the A15 is something like 65% faster per core - so anything that doesn't utilize more than 2 cores will run considerably faster on the Exynos 5.
As for this whole dual- versus quad-A15 noise, A15 is the fastest cpu architecture. There is no SoC on the market (or even slated for release before Q1 2013 that I know of) that integrates four of them.
For most purposes the Exynos 5250 is still going to be the fastest thing out there for a while. Don't count Krait (the S4) out yet though - it's designed to run at up to 2GHz (the Nexus 4 runs at 1.5) while the Cortex A15 isn't really supposed to be run above 1.5GHz in a phone/tablet (Exynos 5 is 1.7GHz.)
Also benchmarks mean nothing. :laugh:
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the Cortex A15 isn't really supposed to be run above 1.5GHz in a phone/tablet
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Can you elaborate? I thought it could go up to 2.5ghz.
Dual core + 9000mah = more battery
A15 vs A9 = faster calculations and more performance
2GB Ram = excellent multitasking
add to all of this the new Mali T-604 GPU you get something that should be called an ipad terminator
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Can you elaborate? I thought it could go up to 2.5ghz.
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"the Cortex-A15 MPCore processor running at up to 2.5GHz will enable highly scalable solutions within constantly shrinking energy, thermal and cost budgets"
straight from the ARM website
8 cortex a7 are the same power comsuption than 4 cortex a8, the same or less that 4 a9, and less that 4 a15, and have more ghz in total, so it would be a good idea to make this, mtk make cortex a 7 processors and the 4 cores device with it are the same speed as google nexus 4, so i think that it will be a good idea
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8 cortex a7 are the same power comsuption than 4 cortex a8, the same or less that 4 a9, and less that 4 a15, and have more ghz in total, so it would be a good idea to make this, mtk make cortex a 7 processors and the 4 cores device with it are the same speed as google nexus 4, so i think that it will be a good idea
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Just think of AMD vs INTEL
More cores vs. higher performance per core
Don't get fooled by the market gimmick and I prefer the A9/Intel way any day.
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Just think of AMD vs INTEL
More cores vs. higher performance per core
Don't get fooled by the market gimmick and I prefer the A9/Intel way any day.
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sorry, but mediatek stoled my idea, they are doing an exellent job with not more cores, it is same performance with more cores with more battery saving and making a good architecture no like amd, amd isnt bad, they chipsets are wrong built, bulldozer stink
How many type of note 3 cpu and gpu
Which one is gud for performance and battery
Quad core 2.3 or 1.9 or 1.3 as I saw on gsmarena
What about gpu as well
What to choose
Note 3 will have snapdragon 800 cpu @ 2.3 ghz. Some will have the Exynos octa core @ 1.9. I will get the Sprint version so it's snapdragon for me
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How many type of note 3 cpu and gpu
Which one is gud for performance and battery
Quad core 2.3 or 1.9 or 1.3 as I saw on gsmarena
What about gpu as well
What to choose
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As the person stated above N3 will come in two processors:
1. Slapdragon 800 @ 2.3 GHz (4 Krait cores- QUAD CORE) with Adreno 330 which can shoot 4k Videos @ 30 FPS.
2. Exynos 5420 with 8 cores- 4 A15 @ 1.9 GHz and 4 A7 @ 1.3 GHz. It will have Mali T628 MP6 GPU. However it wont shoot videos at 4k resolution.
Both of the GPUs will have OpenGL ES 3.0.
These stuffs can, you know, be obtained from top notch tech sites like gsmarena etc and with a quite bit of research hypothetically be answered.
But to answer your last question- it is too early to tell.
1. Lets see how the real world users say about daily usage in terms of Slapdragon 800 and Exynos.
2. Lets see how GSMArena turns out regarding battery endurance.
awesome smartphone
it will be interesting what the snapdragon will do. However its the highest end 800 not the regular 800 so optimalizing will be limited unless that one becomes mainstream. Tricky.
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Just wondering if this is a step up in terms of what I am currently using as my daily android device. Alright, after a bit of reading, the best guess I have is about a 25% increase in performance with the Redmi note 2.
Powervr g6200 vs Adreno 320
The PowerVR chip was ranked 8th best for 2015 compared to 14th for the dated Adreno 320.
CPU clock time is 2000mhz compared to 1500.
However, benchmarks on Atutu seem to show it scoring twice as high.
Was hoping for a little more performance, but for $110 and a far superior GPS/camera I'll take it.
I've never heard any complaints on here about performance on the RN2; in fact, people have been underclocking the CPU to 1.2-1.5 GHz and still had no lag. It's not as good as the SD 810 and not nearly as good as the Adreno 430, but there aren't really any devices this cheap with more powerful hardware.