ICS Impressions, please share - Galaxy Tab 7.7 General

Ok so for those that have been able to upgrade to ICS (P6800 owners) what are your toughts?
Now this is what i am looking for:
A) What you like
B) Don't like
C) What would you like to have seen included but wasn't (if anything)
And since having the update what are you looking forward to doing that you couldn't or wouldn't with HC.
Please don't post any issues you have after updating, that is not what this post is intended for.
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Well i don't think that i don't like anything but i haven't really found something that is faulty. It is definitely faster as i immediately noticed that it took less ram, than honey comb, to run. Feels pretty fast with go launcher HD to me and i love it completely. Although i thought that there would be camera improvements as tab 2 7.0 has the same 3 mega pixel camera but does 1080p recording. So i thought that it might be done with tab 7.7 as well with an ics upgrade.

hammer of thor said:
Well i don't think that i don't like anything but i haven't really found something that is faulty. It is definitely faster as i immediately noticed that it took less ram, than honey comb, to run. Feels pretty fast with go launcher HD to me and i love it completely. Although i thought that there would be camera improvements as tab 2 7.0 has the same 3 mega pixel camera but does 1080p recording. So i thought that it might be done with tab 7.7 as well with an ics upgrade.
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Yea 1080p would have been a nice addition, but 720p is still good.
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Well I love it to and made it up with Samsung:
- first with ICS that tablet really rocks it already did but now it's almost perfect
- smoother faster it seems especially the OOM killer seems more smart, and less memory used it seems
- no more problem with Itap rdp right click with bt mouse
- something I never mentioned. : I developed or try to develop a clone of pronto remote and debug using adb wireless
With HC I could not connect via adb on the computer using ethernet to adb wireless wifi due to packet loss... So had to disable ethernet and enable wifi. With ics no longer this issue...
- I used to have frequent sleep of death for the moment none
- I listen radio everyday through tunein somehow at around 1pm HC always rebooted by itself. Never bothered to figure out why... Now this no longer happen...
- no wifi issue ( some ICS user reported problems). I never had neither with HC except sleep of death or reboot that might be related to wifi?. I use Friztbox 7340 AP.
- my 100+ aps. Seems to all works (of course did not test deeply since yesterday) except gmd gesture control to hide the control bar
-once in a while but quite frequently using HC my EXCHANGE account would vanish...had to re-create every time... waiting to see on this one...Could be my remote application leaking....
So all in all very very happy with this tab and Samsung... Patience was what I missed
- I did wipe and did not have any problem if we refer to brick bug... But you never know...
What I like less
- dialog box theme gray without frame around
- it seems Samy addressed bur-in doing the bar black now....
I preferred it before and I don't have noticeable burn-in ( since march and extensive uses) except using color filter and brightness turned all down then I see slight yellow discoloration... Nothing to complain for me as the TAB HW screen etc are just so great IMO and outweight for me this small detail.
Seriously the TAB rocks for me...
Can you imagine 7.7 with quad core and dream about a 1080p SAMOLED display in a 7'7 TAB for me the perfect size!
I guess I continue buying Samsung.... Despite some of my previous comments... Waiting for the ICS on 8.9 now for my girl friend
Thanks and cheers
A now happy again Samsun tab 7.7 user
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My first impression
i installed the firmware through odin. it was not available on kies. so if i have to claim warranty ( god forbid ) then i guess i have to flash my country's HC firmware back
what i liked is that it is noticibly faster than HC. Apps load faster. lag is less. starting button lag is less. there have been no FC's and almost all of my games are compatible.
what i dislike or rather disappointed is that it does not look or feel much different than HC. no added functionality except Face unlock. what i would have liked is some features of S3.
i am running this for almost 24 hrs now. battery usage is same as HC.

I like that this device is actually usable now. I think I'm going to use it as my main tablet now. I didn't use it with HC because it was just so slow compared to my gt8.9 (running ICS rom).

My first impression: TouchWiz seems much smoother, Go Launcher HD feels the same. Under heavy usage of widgets TouchWiz is still great but Go Launcher HD not. I do love some Go Launcher features so I played around a lot and also tested the new 1.11 beta. But is still less responsive.

It's like a faulty motherboard replaced by a newer and faster one.
Seriously, like a new device, snappy, responsive, seems less battery hungry.
There is one 'custom rom" available, where EDaN has deodexed and removed some bloatware. I took that rom and took out everything social,photo and video editor, and some other minor crap.
Having 60 apps installed and tested it's like Christmas.
- dislike
had to discover I must install busybox to get Titanium working
had to install supersu myself, no biggy
no software based CWM, havent found compatible one, but one thats reboots to recovery anyway.
No powermenu at powerbutton
ugly blueish tint around quickmenu (with shortcuts for bt.wifi etc)
This all will be fixed when chefs get source or get impatient and offer CWM zips

Chainfire3d night mode seems to be not working...
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my only gripe so far is that if you increase the font size to Large, some apps (mostly system apps) seem to have the font go to 'super large' e.g. google play, settings menu, whilst some apps its perfect.
Conversely, going down to medium, most apps are back to Honeycomb tiny font problem, whilst the system apps are fine
Seems like Sammy tweaked the touchwiz stock UI to display fine on medium size, without thinking that 'hey most apps the user will be using needs it set to large hmmmm'. Hoping AOSP ROMs will get around this issue

The tab is more responsive overall. Feels like a new device. But still not loving touchwiz--wish this is a pure Google device. Installing Nova Launcher partially fixes that. Only app not working out well so far is Battery Monitor Widget Pro--the mA usage keeps showing "0". Just about everything else survived the upgrade with no issues.
Add: mA information in Battery monitor widget works is set to "estimation" rather than automatic. So that problem is solved...

I never used tw always adw launcher ex on this device, everything is smoother with ics now we just need some custom roms and kernels so it can catch up to my galaxy note and asus prime

Anyone notice the clipboard function is gone?
In HC, when ublong tap to paste, there are 2 options to choose, PASTE & CLIPBIARD.
in ICS, there's only PASTE.
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I love this new upgrade. The lag is mostly gone, and it's actually more functional. And Chrome looks awesome on the screen.

matsuru said:
Anyone notice the clipboard function is gone?
In HC, when ublong tap to paste, there are 2 options to choose, PASTE & CLIPBIARD.
in ICS, there's only PASTE.
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It only seems to work with the Samsung keyboard. I thought that was also the case in 3.2?

I'm truly loving this tab with ICS. One huge problem is with my WiFi. I experienced once again as it just disconnected and never connected again until I shut it down completely and turned it back on. Logged onto another AP. I hate this problem as I thought I had fixed it. It seems like the WiFi module is overheated and shutdown or something....*SIGH*

when browsing, going back to the previous tabs is still being reloaded. That is my only gripe so far.
Other than that, everything is smoothhhhhh...

I agree. Smooth interface. :-D
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I am using multiling keyboard and the function is there.
Anyway, because of this, I found an app that does more -> Clipper+
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Impressions.
It's good stuff!
First: Hotmail seems to be staying put. Had big bothers with this as account would dissapear from tab. Seems to be fixed now, but need more time.
Second: SD Card behaving. Sweet.
Third: No waiting around for unlock screen to pop up when power button pressed. WTF was that anyway?
Fourth: Swype behaving itself. Kept on getting beeps before, and i would have to change to Samkey and back to swype. One crash so far in google translate.
Fifth: Browser no longer reloading all the time to homepage. seems more stable.
Sixth: Youtube actually responds when choosing a vid. If you hit back before and chose another, it was no longer responsive.
Seventh: AR much more responsive. 1sec response time. instead of 3-4. Overall response time much boosted. Has crossed the line from WTF? to hey... Sweet!
0'ed: Sammy did our super bloody expensive tab first. THANK YOU!
PS: flashed XL4 (United Arab Emirates) with Austrian version.(ODIN 1.85) Not a problem. Did Full Reset before flashing though. All went smooth. Im a very happy camper! Hope i could help.

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So, how stable/responsive is Honeycomb on the Tab?

Hey everyone. I'm planning on getting the Tab, and I was wondering if Honeycomb is decently stable and responsible on the Tab, as I understand from some of the posts here that Honeycomb is still a bit beta-y.
Namely:
-Does it play YouTube videos fine?
-Do apps force close often?
-Is there a lot of lag on the device?
Thanks in advance for any answers.
I've had mine for approx 24 hours (and have barely put it down).
No force closes, no lag to speak of, and every app I've installed has worked. Maybe the benefit of low expectations, or being used to a Vibrant, but Honeycomb is awesome.
The only thing I've run into: I have a very strong wifi connection, and at least 3 or 4 times in Gmail and the market, it says "no connection-retry?"
Every time I retry it connects.
Anyway, that's my perspective after a whole day, for what it's worth.
Youtube is excellent.
-Does it play YouTube videos fine?
I've seen a few catches here and there. Nothing to completely turn me away.
-Do apps force close often?
I've only had issues with one app and reinstalled it no probs after that.
-Is there a lot of lag on the device?
I've noticed a small amount of lag. Especially with the stock launcher. I'm not surprised because most of the stock devices that I've played around with have had the same small lag.
I've also noticed that a lot more apps stay running on the tablets. That can't help with the lag.
I'm personally can't wait for the voodoo lagfix to hit kernels.
It's a great device. Honeycomb is a bit buggy. If you run some apps that aren't optimized for it, it force closes at times.
If you can handle that, it's a great device.
Cool, everything sounds good. Can't wait to get my Tab now!
Got 10.1 retail 16gb with 3.1, unlocked from Frys yesterday. Auto installed all of my applications, total of 100+ from Market & Amazon through HTC Thunderbolt 4G LTE hot spot within minutes. I have Samsung 7" tab since last thanksgiving. Works everything, loves it. A keeper for me.
I just got my GT 10.1 yesterday and thus far I am very happy. Runs smooth and seems stable in my (limited) experience.
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X10D3 said:
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I'm personally can't wait for the voodoo lagfix to hit kernels.
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Supercurio has already said the Tab doesn't need a lag fix, so there may not be voodoo for it (although he already has the sound enhancements going)
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I've used test devices asking with rc touchWiz units - lags are present, but vanilla honeycomb is bloody smooth, it felt as the most fluid honeycomb tab (I've used all major ones out there)
I think this "lag" should be fixed with the 3.2 update which is due on xoom in next few weeks - it has "improved hardware acceleration"
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I've had a a few issues with apps force closing on me, and a couple of instances of slight lag in the interface as well, but overall I really like this device. Form factor is nice, screen is great and battery life is phenomenal.
I think the few issues with the 10.1 will be fixed in time - either by Samsung/Google or third party developers - so I'm not terribly worried. In the case that they aren't, these issues are slight and do not occur regularly so I can easily live with them - even if I shouldn't have to.
X10D3 said:
-Does it play YouTube videos fine?
I've seen a few catches here and there. Nothing to completely turn me away.
-Do apps force close often?
I've only had issues with one app and reinstalled it no probs after that.
-Is there a lot of lag on the device?
I've noticed a small amount of lag. Especially with the stock launcher. I'm not surprised because most of the stock devices that I've played around with have had the same small lag.
I've also noticed that a lot more apps stay running on the tablets. That can't help with the lag.
I'm personally can't wait for the voodoo lagfix to hit kernels.
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The original Voodoo lagfix for Galaxy S phones was used to convert the filesystem on the device to EXT3/4 from lackluster RFS, from what I am reading and experiencing Samsung is using EXT3 filesystem on the Tab, so the lagfix is pointless.
Kernel tweaks and fine tuning of the Honyecomb when the source becomes available should address the lag issues if ever.
Supercurio won't need to do the lagfix needed for the Galaxy S devices, but he may still have a few filesystem tweaks and whatnot to contribute that will give a small (possibly negligible) boost to performance on the Tab. He did that for the Nexus S, even though the Nexus S used EXT4.
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mrsbelpit said:
The only thing I've run into: I have a very strong wifi connection, and at least 3 or 4 times in Gmail and the market, it says "no connection-retry?"
Every time I retry it connects.
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Very same thing happens to me. My Xoom or Transformer never did this, and my Nook Color and Galaxy S Vibrant also never had issues with my wifi connection.
So I thought it might have been a hardware problem, also because I hadn't seen anyone mention it on this board. I returned my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and got a replacement. The replacement is doing it too. So I am now guessing it might be software.
Glad to see at least I'm not the only one having this problem. Haha.
Honeycomb runs real smooth on my Galaxy Tab. Though I have noticed a few hiccups, these include:
1) Sometimes it doesn't recognize that I have headphones plugged in, I have to reboot the tablet then it works fine. Not exactly a huge issue for me as I don't use headphones that often and it hasn't done it a lot.
2) If you have the keyboard dock, they are like oil and water. The tablet automatically goes into Clock mode and won't come out. You have to toy around with setting a different default keyboard, keep docking and undocking the tablet and even test with docking it with the screen off vs with the screen on to get it to recognize that keyboard as a keyboard and stop putting the device in Clock mode with no keyboard functionality. I haven't quite figured out a single method that works every time, but once you get it working that keyboard makes things so much easier to work with when typing a lot!
3) There is some lag with the interface, but nothing too bad. The worse lag is with typing. With or without the keyboard, the typing lag is horrendous and it's the only lag on this system that actually bugs me.
4) There is the occasional wake-up jam. This isn't tablet specific, but Android specific... when your device just won't wake up and you have to hold the power key for 15 seconds then release and hold again for a few seconds and the device will reboot. This has happened to me twice after charging overnight. In the morning the screen won't come on and I have to hold the power button, release then hold again and the device will power up. Fully charged.
I am hoping these are fixed with the official Samsung release with the TouchWiz overlay. I am thoroughly happy with the galaxy tab 10.1 and do not regret my purchase in any way, shape, or form. Bugs are to be expected, but for a device as expensive as this one it doesn't hurt to hope the manufacturer would address them with the next update...lol.
BlackOtaku said:
-Does it play YouTube videos fine?
-Do apps force close often?
-Is there a lot of lag on the device?
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The YouTube app has been almost flawless for me. I think it did force crash once or twice.
Regarding force closures. There has been big improvements since the days I had a Xoom and Android 3.0. YouTube crashed once, maybe twice. The Browser app crashed once. I don't think Market has crashed yet, but it's still a little quirky.
Most of the force closures seem to be from third party apps that haven't been updated in a while. But I have apps I use daily that never force close. Pulse is rock stable, Opera Mini is rock stable. Just started using News 360 and it seems stable so far. Dropbox very stable.
The Honeycomb launcher is a bit laggy. I'm living with it. I tried alternative launchers like ADW Launcher and Launcher Pro, but I find those two look pretty ugly and the icons get all messed up when I rotate the tablet. I love how the Honeycomb launcher reserves blank space on the wide side of the tablet so icon spacing stays even. I guess I'm a little weird about that.
So far I think my biggest issue is streaming. I really have more trouble with streaming apps on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 than I have with other tablets. Pandora will freeze up when it's in the background too long. TuneIn Pro seems to buffer a lot more on my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Has my wondering if the wifi is that good or if there is some software issue. And I've had some intermittent "no network connection" errors as I mentioned in a previous post.
Ravynmagi said:
Very same thing happens to me. My Xoom or Transformer never did this, and my Nook Color and Galaxy S Vibrant also never had issues with my wifi connection.
So I thought it might have been a hardware problem, also because I hadn't seen anyone mention it on this board. I returned my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and got a replacement. The replacement is doing it too. So I am now guessing it might be software.
Glad to see at least I'm not the only one having this problem. Haha.
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That ironic. My Atrix does this, and it annoys me to no end (the Atrix has HORRIBLE WiFi connectivity) and in comparison my galaxy tab is fantastic. I connect to WiFi quickly, I get a strong data flow with fast uploads and downloads and no issues with disconnecting from the network.
Ravynmagi said:
Very same thing happens to me. My Xoom or Transformer never did this, and my Nook Color and Galaxy S Vibrant also never had issues with my wifi connection.
So I thought it might have been a hardware problem, also because I hadn't seen anyone mention it on this board. I returned my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and got a replacement. The replacement is doing it too. So I am now guessing it might be software.
Glad to see at least I'm not the only one having this problem. Haha.
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The really weird thing is that it only seems to happen in the native google apps. The first day I had it, it happened 3 or 4 times, then yesterday not once. I'm just wondering if Comcast was buggy that day. It's been known to happen.
I've had it for nearly two weeks (I am fortunate enough to live in New York so I ran to Best Buy in Union Square before the "official release"). I had a Xoom for awhile, and 3.1 is certainly an improvement.
I am not a power user as far as media goes, I am more email/web browsing/business apps, so I haven't had any major issues with Youtube, it's seemed pretty smooth for me.
The stock browser freezes up when a drop down menu is selected, and there's a long list of choices. Freezes, and closes all windows. Pain in the butt. I don't love any of the browsers on the Market (they all seem to be buggy as well and/or only open in mobile mode), and this is just a problem I'll have to deal with.
I've found that the battery life is good, but not great. Perhaps I have things running in the background that I shouldn't. But I'm not seeing more than about 5-6 hours, and as I mentioned I'm just using email and web browsing for the most part.
Overall, I recommend.
No issues for me outside of the odd program force closing. Google Music did that to me a few times until I updated it.
Stock browser is a little buggy at times. It didn't sync all my bookmarks well. I'm still looking for a good browser. Dolphin HD is alright.
Youtube runs perfectly fine.
Only a few apps force close on the Tab and sometimes the browser force closes, but rarely.
And there's only a slight lag on the home screen. It's barely noticeable but it's less smooth as compared to the iPad. Hopefully, 3.2 will improve the experience.

ICS works like a dream for me

Super duper fast, no issues, quick boot, ahhhhhh it's snappy as, it's perfect c: dunno what yous are whining about
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Super duper fast, no issues, quick boot, ahhhhhh it's snappy as, it's perfect c: dunno what yous are whining about
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they seek attention...thats all.
ICS is a dream,well put there sir.
the only true problem is the screen responsiveness but i can live with that as it is the first release.
its super fast,super smooth,at last i have a working browser that loads in the speed of light even the most bad written web pages full of ads which of course i have disabled with adfree and generally its ten times better than any laptop and netbook.
hardware keyboard is so responsive,no lag at all as in the terrible hc and apps load like hell.
i am in love with my tablet at last and yes,now i see why tablets are the future.
with HC i had my tablet closed like for a month....
Some of more "simple" people in this world get more hyped up the longer they wait for something, in the end, there is no way they would be happy with what they end up with, so much so they can't even see the good stuff anymore.
Im in love
horndroid said:
I never waited for ICS on my TF. I've already had ICS on my phone for a while. I knew what it was going to be like.
After getting ICS today on my TF, I can objectively say that it's nothing to get your panties wet about, and it never was. It's a minor update at best.
Your tablet must have been really badly optimized and cluttered with junk if updating to ICS made it "work like a dream".
If you notice that much of a difference in performance, the problem wasn't the OS. It was you.
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The upgrade to the browser alone qualifies it as a major upgrade, its gone from a slow buggy mess to something that is a joy to use. Just being able to type this reply without the 3 second lag for every key press is a breath of fresh air
itchyeyeballs said:
The upgrade to the browser alone qualifies it as a major upgrade, its gone from a slow buggy mess to something that is a joy to use. Just being able to type this reply without the 3 second lag for every key press is a breath of fresh air
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thank you (raising hand at the same time)
I must say that I initially was disappointed. I expected a lot of user interface changes and a heap of new functions. But got disappointed when it looked just like before.
But annoying lags are gone, I discover small improvements all the time and I am beginning to really appreciate this update.
My favourite new feature so far is app folders on the desktop.
LWP is useless so the ones getting a slower device because of it is just getting what they deserve. Bling should be on your girlfriends fingers, not on your tablet.
i don`t think ICS is a mayor update, for me it feels more like a polished version of HC, with less of the small annoying lags, and a lot of other small problems are gone. the only thing i would consider mayor about it, is the upgraded browser and the chrome beta. finally two web browsers on my TF which i realy like.
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i don`t think ICS is a mayor update, for me it feels more like a polished version of HC, with less of the small annoying lags, and a lot of other small problems are gone. the only thing i would consider mayor about it, is the upgraded browser and the chrome beta. finally two web browsers on my TF which i realy like.
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I read somewhere that ICS is supposed to be a major upgrade for phones Android 2.X. Android 3.X is for tablets only. Android 4 is a merge of these two strategies, therefor the changes are bigger for phones than tablets.
I think the article summed up that ICS is a way to bring the Honeycomb upgrade to phones.
+1 ICS is greeeat...
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Works perfectly here.
Time to download the chrome browser
Dream Indeed
I have been aboard the android train since my Galaxy s.
Used to run darky's roms then switched to paulforde's 4.2. This already made me feel ICS really is a major update.
Got my EEpad about 3 months ago. And switched to GnuFabio's Revolver rom, which I loved. Yesterday I flashed the Full WW ICS after only wiping cache and Dalvik, booted into ICS, booted into recovery and the installed the update over it. And I must say, this is my best Android experience so far. Especially during swiping through screens I always noticed quite a few frames were being dropped. And occasional keyboard lag.. also sometimes the memory management seemed to play tricks on me from time to time.
But so far this really is feeling like a dream even though my device is running stock and used to run @1.4Ghz. I am loving this !
I'm really digging ICS as well. At first I found it a bit clunky and did have trouble with the screen responsiveness but after a few hours of use it seemed fade away and is now snappier than ever.
My only complaint is with the browser and the backwards step they took removing the ability to change the default User Agent permanently. Same thing with Chrome Beta. Why make a fancy browser only to have it display stuff meant for a 3-5 inch display? I'm not too upset as I'm sure it will be one of the first things they fix in the next major update(s) to ICS.
Maybe i had low expectations, but this update has really impressed me; noticeably faster, not blindingly so, but faster nonetheless eg. the 'recent apps' button - before you'd have a 1-2 delay, now it's instant.
The browser is massively improved, no more blocky rendering when scrolling through xda, no typing lag, no random crashes, much more stable. Other little things you keep noticing: drag 'n drop files in the files manager; ctrl+shift+arrows to select words etc.
Sure, there's nothing earth shattering about ICS - but for me, the transformer now works like I always imagined it should work.
I love ICS also on my tf101!!
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I'm happy with the Update. The Tablet feels more responsive now.
I agree its working great.
Can actually use the stock browser now with xda lol
Only 1 bug so far... changing to panorama mode kills the camera.. no biggie
Another happy customer here. 2 random reboots. But its running how it should
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pimjai said:
i don`t think ICS is a mayor update, for me it feels more like a polished version of HC, with less of the small annoying lags, and a lot of other small problems are gone. the only thing i would consider mayor about it, is the upgraded browser and the chrome beta. finally two web browsers on my TF which i realy like.
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yes i totally agree. ICS is what HC should have been.... Well at least were finally here..I'm loving my TF even more
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eScape2000 said:
Works perfectly here.
Time to download the chrome browser
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chrome is nothing to write home about....not as fast as opera. i was really looking for it to replace Opera but i guess not. Everything else is much faster now on ICS

First Impressions of a new 10.1 owner.

Just got a new 10.1 yesterday and gave myself a day to see how much I like it. Speed is always a big deal for me. Im actually typing from the tab now. The keyboard isnt too bad, but I dont see a autocorrection so far, but have not looked into it. The speed of the Touchwiz and homescreens is much better than most had me believe. I dont have any lag between the tapping of the arrow and the animation to show the quick apps.
The tablet also came fully updated, as far as the tablet shows through the update wizard. I will eventually check up the dev section and make sure I have the latest update today or tomorrow. The touchscreen does show a bit of lag as far as drawing with the fingers but isnt too bad and rougly on course with the A100 from Acer, my previous tablet. Battery is also great, and came 50% charged when I bought it, and didnt drop below 40% for the 4 hours I had used it before throwing it on the charger and watching some youtube and netflix.
Anyways, that was a quick review, and I love the tablet as of right now, when I thought the Tw UX was going to be a pain, but hasshown to be opposite and not too bad.
Thanks,
Mike
I just ordered one of these. I dunno if I'll get it since the contract was too good to be true. Nonetheless, if it get it, it'll be a worthy successor to my übermodified ZTE Light.
try ADWlauncher ....is the best by far for interface
Go launcher HD... not on market, Google it .
It works flawlessly.
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You should get "ADWlauncher Ex"
It's a very good launcher replacement, better than the stock one.
For the keyboard, you can try Thumb Keyboard
both apps aren't free... but it's worth it
mvan4310 said:
Just got a new 10.1 yesterday and gave myself a day to see how much I like it. Speed is always a big deal for me. Im actually typing from the tab now. The keyboard isnt too bad, but I dont see a autocorrection so far, but have not looked into it. The speed of the Touchwiz and homescreens is much better than most had me believe. I dont have any lag between the tapping of the arrow and the animation to show the quick apps.
The tablet also came fully updated, as far as the tablet shows through the update wizard. I will eventually check up the dev section and make sure I have the latest update today or tomorrow. The touchscreen does show a bit of lag as far as drawing with the fingers but isnt too bad and rougly on course with the A100 from Acer, my previous tablet. Battery is also great, and came 50% charged when I bought it, and didnt drop below 40% for the 4 hours I had used it before throwing it on the charger and watching some youtube and netflix.
Anyways, that was a quick review, and I love the tablet as of right now, when I thought the Tw UX was going to be a pain, but hasshown to be opposite and not too bad.
Thanks,
Mike
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Thanks all forth replies. I havebthe thumb keyboard already, but don't need a new launcher or anything yet, since the stock is working perfect. The next next thing I'm waiting on is the ics update in the coming months. I do plan to root this soon, but won't use an ics Rom since I use the cameras often. I may throw Task or overcome on this instead while I wait. Overall a very good tablet, and the detail is amazing as far as the resolution and everything else goes.
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Thanks all forth replies. I havebthe thumb keyboard already, but don't need a new launcher or anything yet, since the stock is working perfect. The next next thing I'm waiting on is the ics update in the coming months. I do plan to root this soon, but won't use an ics Rom since I use the cameras often. I may throw Task or overcome on this instead while I wait. Overall a very good tablet, and the detail is amazing as far as the resolution and everything else goes.
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I have never liked ADW launcher and tried the Go HD launcher today and I don't like it either.. I'm with you, I enjoy the stock one the best..
Thumb Keyboard ROCKS and so does HD Widgets and Reader HD..
Task 14 is just as fast as ICS and its rock solid and stable...
Enjoy the Tab, I still love mine 6 months after buying it...
Mine came with Swype built in (a TMobile tab) and I rooted it, and uninstalled the installed version and use the newest one from their site. I just love the black keys.
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Go launcher HD... not on market, Google it .
It works flawlessly.
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Although, I've tried this and readily liked it. Isn't it still in beta2 with next to no options for changing anything? It's been a few days since I've checked so maybe its been updated again.
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Although, I've tried this and readily liked it. Isn't it still in beta2 with next to no options for changing anything? It's been a few days since I've checked so maybe its been updated again.
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Its still beta 2 with zero options..
I have a gift through my ADSL company to bring 3 guests
P7500 is the white model. I bought a white cover and buyincoins amazonUK an adapter to make memory cards and USB flash drives.
the hard disk via USB (2.5) do not work, ask for energy.
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I have a gift through my ADSL company to bring 3 guests
P7500 is the white model. I bought a white cover and buyincoins amazonUK an adapter to make memory cards and USB flash drives.
the hard disk via USB (2.5) do not work, ask for energy.
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If you're needing help with the hard disk, you need to search first, and then if nothing is found make a new thread in Q&A section.
It will probably be missed in here and considered rude hijacking someone elses thread.
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If you are on HC 3.2 you are alright, but if still on 3.1 I'd news astonished if you liked the touch wiz. It its just horrible. ADW EX its the lightest and the most heavily customisable. The most appealing is spb 3d. It its amazing but uses more ram.
However congrats for your new tab and hope you enjoy it;-)
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If you are on HC 3.2 you are alright, but if still on 3.1 I'd news astonished if you liked the touch wiz. It its just horrible. ADW EX its the lightest and the most heavily customisable. The most appealing is spb 3d. It its amazing but uses more ram.
However congrats for your new tab and hope you enjoy it;-)
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The stock experience was great. Im using task 14 now and honestly don't see very much improvement in speed, but I always love a custom rom and root. Honestly I prefer stock launchers over custom ones for no apparent reason .

Thoughts about JB on PT-3113

So what are your thoughts about JB. So far i havent played with it alot and it seems a bit snappier but not alot though
I think its ok bit dont like the notification bar. The phone look doesnt soot the tab prefer the layout of ics. Performancenis very good though no lag
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improved wi-fi
I'm not sure, but I think the wi-fi reception has improved.
screen rotation
I disable the screen rotation but the lock screen still rotates
Does anyone meet the same problem?
I personally don't see much difference in performance. With the status bar moving to the top and performance about the same,I'd have to score it a -1 or a 0 at best.
i never saw any performance issue with ICS so i don't see any improvement in JB. I do love the google now / voice search stuff though.
I think some of you need to check you're TAB's.. I, like some here, have been running stock ICS (P-3113) & updated the other day (after the long wait for the official Jelly Bean update) & I noticed quiet a bump in performance. One thing that might have helped me was the fact that I did a Wipe/Factory Data Reset before I updated. I also didn't do a restore from backup, I actually reinstalled everything fresh & everything is running great so far! One thing that helps it feel faster is the fact that everything is so much smoother & jitter free now, I also notice apps open a lot quicker now.. no more little pause after touching an icon.
.:Things I like:.
Performance: The tab seems much "snappier" now.
Project Butter: The "stutter" is gone.. everything IS Buttery Smooth now!
Battery: Run time seems to have improved a little bit.. I was getting two days of light use on ICS, with JB I'm now on the third day at 44%.
Phablet UI actually isn't to bad, I thought I was going to have to use the tab in portrait mode all the time.. nope, put in landscape, disable screen rotation, done.
.:Things I don't like:.
I could do without the "shortcuts"? row on the right side in landscape mode.. Phablet UI.
I wish they would have left the soft buttons at the bottom where they were.. although, I am starting to get used to their new location now.
Notification bar at the top, really.. OKAY!?
Q: Is the root method the same as it was for ICS or has something changed.. if so, point me to the post w/the new method please. Thanks.
The TAB 2 now feels like a useful device I look forward to using every day. AWESOME.
Later, Phil B.
I'll agree with the post above. I first upgraded via kies and really didn't notice any performance improvement. But after a full wipe and reinstallation with Odin I see a marked improvement in performance. The whole UI is much "snappier" and the performance of demanding apps like NFS Most Wanted is also noticeably improved!
For those like me who hate the "phablet" look I posted a method here that will pretty much get you back to what you are used to.:good:
Oh and CF-Auto-Root still works for me!
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I disable the screen rotation but the lock screen still rotates
Does anyone meet the same problem?
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I have that same problem.
MM2222 said:
I disable the screen rotation but the lock screen still rotates
Does anyone meet the same problem?
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yes, I have the same problem on my galaxy tab 2 7.0 but this is not really a problem. I have larger problems after the update to JB today:
1- I can't connect my galaxy tab 2 7.0 to PC, and I've installed the Kies but no help.
2- I hadn't have much free internal memory on Ice Cream Sandwich, but it used to work properly without any app to stop responding. But JB uses much more internal memory and this made the device very slow and it stopped working frequently (apps and even touch-wiz stops working) and I had to restart it every 2-3 minutes (even the keyboard on lock screen didn't appear to enter my password). So I had to uninstall lots of apps to free the storage and now I have 487 MB free, It had improved a lot but it's still slower than the past (with Ice Cream Sandwich). the apps starts slowly and sometimes they stop working and I have to restart the device.
here are my questions:
1- 478MB free internal storage is not enough for the JB? you have more free memory on your devices?
2- I've read that some have reset the device then update it and then reinstall everything, do you think this will help?
3- what about the problem of not connecting to PC? anybody has the same problem?
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P.S. I've just master rest my device and install all my apps again and it worked, the problems are solved and JB looks good.
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I'm not sure, but I think the wi-fi reception has improved.
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I would agree with that also. I was at the Gym yesterday morning when i updated my tablet .i get a wifi signal from the restaurant next door the signal was always weak when running on ICS but after i updated it to JB the connection seemed to be better The device seems to be snappier but i think im going to do a factory reset anyway and see what difference it makes.
Way better. I like the new layout as it unifies the Android experience. Faster and snappier. Was going to sell it soon if the Note 7 comes out but I may keep it. Via OTA. Battery seems longer too. Like the status bar percentage. Like the Video Player pop out to multi task. It's just great IMHO.
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Dont like the fact that swiping between pages in menu is sort of slow!! Not laggy just slow
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Without Allshare cast, the upgrade was not worth much to me.
I like it, using cryogen would love to get the peel app back, runs smoother and faster. New to android but have been a long time fan.
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[Vote] JB update? Worth it?

A straightforward topic
Vote Yes if you think the JB update for razr i is worth updating to and No if it isn't and you want to downgrade back to ICS
Was going to ask exactly the same question....
Was going to ask exactly the same question, as the update prompt just showed up on mine 2 hours ago...
At the moment I am holding... and not updating... don't really see any advantage in jelly bean... i wouldn't be using google now anyway...
... and I don't wanna loose "fm radio" and "sleep mode"
Same here, I actually think it might be better staying on ICS but let's see what the JB persons have to say
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I personally don't think it is worth it -- however I did update to look for differences in battery life.
I see the cpu governor chosen by motorola to be laggier on some tasks. But the UI seems more fluid because of project butter. And I do not use google now because of the massive battery consumption.
The best feature which I do look is the improved keyboard and a better voice to text recognition, it is almost real-time. That is enough for my personal use of the device.
But if your usage requires more the following functions that you would loose such as FM radio and sleep mode as mentioned above then I would hold the upgrade until we start seeing other ROMs.
Thats great but you didn't mention if overall the battery life is a lot better or worse in JB?
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My RAZR i is so much more buttery smooth, and Google Now is worth it by itself. I installed the 4.2 launcher from the Nexus 4 image and its a great match with 4.1.2
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you should put a poll on this thread
Anyone's speed dial not working since JB update? (Orange GB)
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Anyone's speed dial not working since JB update? (Orange GB)
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Mine. I think it was deactivated...
I like the Jelly Bean Update. First i was very happy about Google Now but in all honesty, disable it, burn it, kill it with everything you have.
My logs:
ICS, Display on 4hrs, Battery 20%
ICS, Display on 3hrs, Battery 50%
ICS, Display on 5hrs, Battery 29% (best by far)
So it varied a bit, although battery life improved in the last month somehow. Don't know, i switched some apps and deleted some .. A common value was that i had around 50% battery after ~2,5hrs.
Google Now:
JB, GN on, Display on 3,5hrs, Battery 12%
.. whatever, i didn't make that much screenshots of it. Let's just say that with 2hrs display on time i had about 35-40% battery.
I disabled Google Now yesterday and almost instantly i saw the graph flat out. At the moment i have 57% battery left with 2hrs 20mins display on time which could be a small improvement over ICS.
What i like about the update:
- Softkey bar is now transparent with LWP and even in other launchers, makes screen finally appear in it's real size and not cut-off
--> i could finally switch to Nova without any drawbacks, stock launcher froze widgets in ICS and scrolling to the right only was annoying
- Performs much better on homescreens
- stock JB softkeys look much better, stock animations in it.. yeah, i love it
- disable the stupid shutter sound (try to make a photo of the blackboard in an university.. twice i forgot to cover the speaker, it's the look of shame for a stupid phone you have on your face after taking it)
- Finally my Widgetsoid quicksettings bar stays where it's by standard in every other phone
Some more i already forgot
What i dislike:
Once google now is deactivated, nothing
somehow Poweramp kills its database every time and stops playing songs after 2-3mins .. This was the app i paid most for until now
It was overall more an update that made the phone work more the way it should. At least i have the expression, i think not everyone profits from the quicksettings and Nova launcher. Don't expect that your phone behaves completely different, you'll be disappointed by the more or less minor changes.
Well i really prefer Jb a lot!
Its so fast!! And i like the ui!
More than Ics,
On Jb theres is not lag anymore!
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funny how before jb was released people would be desperate to install it and now that it has been released, people are deciding not to install it.
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funny how before jb was released people would be desperate to install it and now that it has been released, people are deciding not to install it.
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Lol well its only because of the lack of features that JB has on Razr I and I didnt know what the features were before.. so i was excited but, not so much now..
i really want apps2sd that is initially why i was excited too..
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I like the Jelly Bean Update. First i was very happy about Google Now but in all honesty, disable it, burn it, kill it with everything you have.
My logs:
ICS, Display on 4hrs, Battery 20%
ICS, Display on 3hrs, Battery 50%
ICS, Display on 5hrs, Battery 29% (best by far)
So it varied a bit, although battery life improved in the last month somehow. Don't know, i switched some apps and deleted some .. A common value was that i had around 50% battery after ~2,5hrs.
Google Now:
JB, GN on, Display on 3,5hrs, Battery 12%
.. whatever, i didn't make that much screenshots of it. Let's just say that with 2hrs display on time i had about 35-40% battery.
I disabled Google Now yesterday and almost instantly i saw the graph flat out. At the moment i have 57% battery left with 2hrs 20mins display on time which could be a small improvement over ICS.
What i like about the update:
- Softkey bar is now transparent with LWP and even in other launchers, makes screen finally appear in it's real size and not cut-off
--> i could finally switch to Nova without any drawbacks, stock launcher froze widgets in ICS and scrolling to the right only was annoying
- Performs much better on homescreens
- stock JB softkeys look much better, stock animations in it.. yeah, i love it
- disable the stupid shutter sound (try to make a photo of the blackboard in an university.. twice i forgot to cover the speaker, it's the look of shame for a stupid phone you have on your face after taking it)
- Finally my Widgetsoid quicksettings bar stays where it's by standard in every other phone
Some more i already forgot
What i dislike:
Once google now is deactivated, nothing
somehow Poweramp kills its database every time and stops playing songs after 2-3mins .. This was the app i paid most for until now
It was overall more an update that made the phone work more the way it should. At least i have the expression, i think not everyone profits from the quicksettings and Nova launcher. Don't expect that your phone behaves completely different, you'll be disappointed by the more or less minor changes.
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YES
Not bothered about the lack of FM, never use it. I did use sleep mode a lot, buit I'll messa round with Smart Actions and get something good enough.
It's a lot smoother. When I first logged on here someone pointed out the stuttering in animation when zooming out of the home screen, which once noticed is impossible to ignore! That's gone and animations and transitions are a lot smoother.
Icons look tighter which is nice, although the digital clock is now a little squatter (not the widget, the lock screen).
Haven't used Google Now really, looking at how it can kill battery I doubt I will.
Dictionary and typing looks better. It doesn't automatically add a space after a word now until you start the next word, which although a little thing helps those of us who punctuate correctly; before hand I'd be having to delete the space to insert a comma or whatever. Takes some getting used to but a lot better.
But best of all the word 'Messages' now apopears complete and not cut off when displayed beneath the icon!! :laugh:
Early days, only updated last night, but first impressions are it tweaks the little annoyances out of the phone, so gets my vote :good:
Faster home screens and no lag? Yeah right. In my case swiping home screens lags substantially more after the JB update, not to mention even worse lags on waking up. Looks to me like the new CPU governor is responsible, will have to root and modify settings to return the performance back.
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Faster home screens and no lag? Yeah right. In my case swiping home screens lags substantially more after the JB update, not to mention even worse lags on waking up. Looks to me like the new CPU governor is responsible, will have to root and modify settings to return the performance back.
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In my case it's really fluent, perhaps the best android update that I have seen so far (and I had a G1 with the very first built of android) this OS feels really mature now.
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In my case it's really fluent, perhaps the best android update that I have seen so far (and I had a G1 with the very first built of android) this OS feels really mature now.
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No doubt it's fluid comparing to G1 But in my personal experience with Razr i, the fastest firmware was the one I bought the phone with. Two consecutive updates consecutively degraded the performance.

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