So, how stable/responsive is Honeycomb on the Tab? - Galaxy Tab 10.1 General

Hey everyone. I'm planning on getting the Tab, and I was wondering if Honeycomb is decently stable and responsible on the Tab, as I understand from some of the posts here that Honeycomb is still a bit beta-y.
Namely:
-Does it play YouTube videos fine?
-Do apps force close often?
-Is there a lot of lag on the device?
Thanks in advance for any answers.

I've had mine for approx 24 hours (and have barely put it down).
No force closes, no lag to speak of, and every app I've installed has worked. Maybe the benefit of low expectations, or being used to a Vibrant, but Honeycomb is awesome.
The only thing I've run into: I have a very strong wifi connection, and at least 3 or 4 times in Gmail and the market, it says "no connection-retry?"
Every time I retry it connects.
Anyway, that's my perspective after a whole day, for what it's worth.
Youtube is excellent.

-Does it play YouTube videos fine?
I've seen a few catches here and there. Nothing to completely turn me away.
-Do apps force close often?
I've only had issues with one app and reinstalled it no probs after that.
-Is there a lot of lag on the device?
I've noticed a small amount of lag. Especially with the stock launcher. I'm not surprised because most of the stock devices that I've played around with have had the same small lag.
I've also noticed that a lot more apps stay running on the tablets. That can't help with the lag.
I'm personally can't wait for the voodoo lagfix to hit kernels.

It's a great device. Honeycomb is a bit buggy. If you run some apps that aren't optimized for it, it force closes at times.
If you can handle that, it's a great device.

Cool, everything sounds good. Can't wait to get my Tab now!

Got 10.1 retail 16gb with 3.1, unlocked from Frys yesterday. Auto installed all of my applications, total of 100+ from Market & Amazon through HTC Thunderbolt 4G LTE hot spot within minutes. I have Samsung 7" tab since last thanksgiving. Works everything, loves it. A keeper for me.

I just got my GT 10.1 yesterday and thus far I am very happy. Runs smooth and seems stable in my (limited) experience.
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X10D3 said:
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I'm personally can't wait for the voodoo lagfix to hit kernels.
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Supercurio has already said the Tab doesn't need a lag fix, so there may not be voodoo for it (although he already has the sound enhancements going)
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I've used test devices asking with rc touchWiz units - lags are present, but vanilla honeycomb is bloody smooth, it felt as the most fluid honeycomb tab (I've used all major ones out there)
I think this "lag" should be fixed with the 3.2 update which is due on xoom in next few weeks - it has "improved hardware acceleration"
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I've had a a few issues with apps force closing on me, and a couple of instances of slight lag in the interface as well, but overall I really like this device. Form factor is nice, screen is great and battery life is phenomenal.
I think the few issues with the 10.1 will be fixed in time - either by Samsung/Google or third party developers - so I'm not terribly worried. In the case that they aren't, these issues are slight and do not occur regularly so I can easily live with them - even if I shouldn't have to.

X10D3 said:
-Does it play YouTube videos fine?
I've seen a few catches here and there. Nothing to completely turn me away.
-Do apps force close often?
I've only had issues with one app and reinstalled it no probs after that.
-Is there a lot of lag on the device?
I've noticed a small amount of lag. Especially with the stock launcher. I'm not surprised because most of the stock devices that I've played around with have had the same small lag.
I've also noticed that a lot more apps stay running on the tablets. That can't help with the lag.
I'm personally can't wait for the voodoo lagfix to hit kernels.
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The original Voodoo lagfix for Galaxy S phones was used to convert the filesystem on the device to EXT3/4 from lackluster RFS, from what I am reading and experiencing Samsung is using EXT3 filesystem on the Tab, so the lagfix is pointless.
Kernel tweaks and fine tuning of the Honyecomb when the source becomes available should address the lag issues if ever.

Supercurio won't need to do the lagfix needed for the Galaxy S devices, but he may still have a few filesystem tweaks and whatnot to contribute that will give a small (possibly negligible) boost to performance on the Tab. He did that for the Nexus S, even though the Nexus S used EXT4.
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mrsbelpit said:
The only thing I've run into: I have a very strong wifi connection, and at least 3 or 4 times in Gmail and the market, it says "no connection-retry?"
Every time I retry it connects.
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Very same thing happens to me. My Xoom or Transformer never did this, and my Nook Color and Galaxy S Vibrant also never had issues with my wifi connection.
So I thought it might have been a hardware problem, also because I hadn't seen anyone mention it on this board. I returned my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and got a replacement. The replacement is doing it too. So I am now guessing it might be software.
Glad to see at least I'm not the only one having this problem. Haha.

Honeycomb runs real smooth on my Galaxy Tab. Though I have noticed a few hiccups, these include:
1) Sometimes it doesn't recognize that I have headphones plugged in, I have to reboot the tablet then it works fine. Not exactly a huge issue for me as I don't use headphones that often and it hasn't done it a lot.
2) If you have the keyboard dock, they are like oil and water. The tablet automatically goes into Clock mode and won't come out. You have to toy around with setting a different default keyboard, keep docking and undocking the tablet and even test with docking it with the screen off vs with the screen on to get it to recognize that keyboard as a keyboard and stop putting the device in Clock mode with no keyboard functionality. I haven't quite figured out a single method that works every time, but once you get it working that keyboard makes things so much easier to work with when typing a lot!
3) There is some lag with the interface, but nothing too bad. The worse lag is with typing. With or without the keyboard, the typing lag is horrendous and it's the only lag on this system that actually bugs me.
4) There is the occasional wake-up jam. This isn't tablet specific, but Android specific... when your device just won't wake up and you have to hold the power key for 15 seconds then release and hold again for a few seconds and the device will reboot. This has happened to me twice after charging overnight. In the morning the screen won't come on and I have to hold the power button, release then hold again and the device will power up. Fully charged.
I am hoping these are fixed with the official Samsung release with the TouchWiz overlay. I am thoroughly happy with the galaxy tab 10.1 and do not regret my purchase in any way, shape, or form. Bugs are to be expected, but for a device as expensive as this one it doesn't hurt to hope the manufacturer would address them with the next update...lol.

BlackOtaku said:
-Does it play YouTube videos fine?
-Do apps force close often?
-Is there a lot of lag on the device?
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The YouTube app has been almost flawless for me. I think it did force crash once or twice.
Regarding force closures. There has been big improvements since the days I had a Xoom and Android 3.0. YouTube crashed once, maybe twice. The Browser app crashed once. I don't think Market has crashed yet, but it's still a little quirky.
Most of the force closures seem to be from third party apps that haven't been updated in a while. But I have apps I use daily that never force close. Pulse is rock stable, Opera Mini is rock stable. Just started using News 360 and it seems stable so far. Dropbox very stable.
The Honeycomb launcher is a bit laggy. I'm living with it. I tried alternative launchers like ADW Launcher and Launcher Pro, but I find those two look pretty ugly and the icons get all messed up when I rotate the tablet. I love how the Honeycomb launcher reserves blank space on the wide side of the tablet so icon spacing stays even. I guess I'm a little weird about that.
So far I think my biggest issue is streaming. I really have more trouble with streaming apps on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 than I have with other tablets. Pandora will freeze up when it's in the background too long. TuneIn Pro seems to buffer a lot more on my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Has my wondering if the wifi is that good or if there is some software issue. And I've had some intermittent "no network connection" errors as I mentioned in a previous post.

Ravynmagi said:
Very same thing happens to me. My Xoom or Transformer never did this, and my Nook Color and Galaxy S Vibrant also never had issues with my wifi connection.
So I thought it might have been a hardware problem, also because I hadn't seen anyone mention it on this board. I returned my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and got a replacement. The replacement is doing it too. So I am now guessing it might be software.
Glad to see at least I'm not the only one having this problem. Haha.
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That ironic. My Atrix does this, and it annoys me to no end (the Atrix has HORRIBLE WiFi connectivity) and in comparison my galaxy tab is fantastic. I connect to WiFi quickly, I get a strong data flow with fast uploads and downloads and no issues with disconnecting from the network.

Ravynmagi said:
Very same thing happens to me. My Xoom or Transformer never did this, and my Nook Color and Galaxy S Vibrant also never had issues with my wifi connection.
So I thought it might have been a hardware problem, also because I hadn't seen anyone mention it on this board. I returned my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and got a replacement. The replacement is doing it too. So I am now guessing it might be software.
Glad to see at least I'm not the only one having this problem. Haha.
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The really weird thing is that it only seems to happen in the native google apps. The first day I had it, it happened 3 or 4 times, then yesterday not once. I'm just wondering if Comcast was buggy that day. It's been known to happen.

I've had it for nearly two weeks (I am fortunate enough to live in New York so I ran to Best Buy in Union Square before the "official release"). I had a Xoom for awhile, and 3.1 is certainly an improvement.
I am not a power user as far as media goes, I am more email/web browsing/business apps, so I haven't had any major issues with Youtube, it's seemed pretty smooth for me.
The stock browser freezes up when a drop down menu is selected, and there's a long list of choices. Freezes, and closes all windows. Pain in the butt. I don't love any of the browsers on the Market (they all seem to be buggy as well and/or only open in mobile mode), and this is just a problem I'll have to deal with.
I've found that the battery life is good, but not great. Perhaps I have things running in the background that I shouldn't. But I'm not seeing more than about 5-6 hours, and as I mentioned I'm just using email and web browsing for the most part.
Overall, I recommend.

No issues for me outside of the odd program force closing. Google Music did that to me a few times until I updated it.
Stock browser is a little buggy at times. It didn't sync all my bookmarks well. I'm still looking for a good browser. Dolphin HD is alright.

Youtube runs perfectly fine.
Only a few apps force close on the Tab and sometimes the browser force closes, but rarely.
And there's only a slight lag on the home screen. It's barely noticeable but it's less smooth as compared to the iPad. Hopefully, 3.2 will improve the experience.

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For those concerned about Vibrant's speed

I don't get it. I have compared my Vibrant to my Nexus one and 95% of the time the Vibrant is just as fast. Two exceptions, the market and speedtest.net app. Other than that, it flies! I will say before I did a hard reset the phone was in fact slow, it was a day and night difference after the reset. I get no lag, fast swipe through screens with TW launcher and apps open fast!
I have no lag that I can notice, but then again I don't bog my phones down with a ton of apps and games I will never use.
No lag. Stock rom, haven't factory resetted either. No GPS problems either without GPS fix o.0
Guess I was just lucky. I applied lag fix for the benchmarks for the hell of it though.
How speedy a device feels is very subjective and varies under different conditions.
I do have a Nexus One too ( in fact two) and in some respects it feels more responsive (mostly the menu, home, back and search button). Applications open faster as well.
Now, the comparison is not fair, ad the N1 is running Froyo and doesn't have the bloatware services installed by TMo (visual voicemail, my account, et al)
Browser and rendering speeds are much faster in the vibrant. Noticeably.
Download speed are much faster in the vibrant as well. Using Speedtest.net the vibrant scores 6 mbs vs 2 on the N1, same place, same time, same servers.
I think the biggest issue with the vibrant (other than the compass and the gps) is filesystem access, probablu due to using a large flash-based memory for storing apps.
I expect that when (if) the Froyo update arrives, the phone will fly.
In the meantime, and depending which apps people have installed and how they use the phone, some will continue to have better experiences with the N1, others with the vibrant.
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I don't have an N1 to compare to, but, there was definitely a lag. Tolerable most of the time, but it would be completely frozen during a single install of an app from market. And don't get me started on a phone reboot. I wish I had timed it to be exact, but it must have been 5 entire minutes from reboot to when I could open and actually use the camera again to record something. Opera loads probably twice (maybe 2.5 times) as fast. Engadget would literally take 5 seconds to come up and at *least* 5 seconds *per page* to load, if not more. I would hit the arrow and have to wait..and wait..and wait. Now, I can hit the arrow repeatedly and it scrolls through news (both new and old)
Maybe not all phones lagged, but mine certainly did. Hope froyo helps some so I'm not forced to run a hack to get around poor rfs performance (or whatever it is).
zephiK said:
No lag. Stock rom, haven't factory resetted either. No GPS problems either without GPS fix o.0
Guess I was just lucky. I applied lag fix for the benchmarks for the hell of it though.
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Would really like to know when people without gps or speed problems got their phones. I bought mine the 19th of July from costco.
Also, the, "take off all your apps and games you don't use regularly. Don't use any widgets on your screens. Don't use all 7 screens for apps or widgets" comments are counterproductive. The phone was DESIGNED for this kind of use and if it doesn't perform as designed. Well, that's a problem.
One more thing - people like me who post about perceived problems are not HATERS. I love the phone and its potential with future upgrades to the software and firmware. That's why I come to this forum, to gets thoughts from the android community. Besides, if everyone who loved the phone and had zero problems with it posted all the time there would be no room for those of us seeking advice.
After youtube vid by AKASKRILLER IM ROOTED DID LAGFIX IN 10MINS W/NO PC NOW IM BENCHIN 2100+........HELLLA FASSST
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I see what you did there...
Sent from mah fone.
LAG FIX IN 10MINS........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dSg3qsD7QQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I wanted to say that I did the lag fix via the update.zip method and everything flies now including the Geniewidget which would rarely load articles. Samsung needs to or has fixed this (not sure, we don't know until we get an official update) but.. I can use the TWLauncher now.
Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
kizer said:
Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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There is some lag that was very noticeable which happened every time you tried to use the market place and some random apps(the market was faster on my mt3g before the lag fix), after the lag fix the loading screen is gone if not instant.
Just did this update and I went from 983 to 2187! Awesome difference!
kizer said:
Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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Same story for me. I've never seen this lag that everyone is talking about (except for the one person that mentioned some lag when installing apps - EVERY Android phone lags for a few seconds while an app is installing). I run the standard TW home and rooted and uninstalled a few of the bloatware apps I'd never use. Don't really see any reason to do the "lag fix".

Very disappointed

I'm pretty disappointed in the Xoom so far. My Droid X seems to perform better than it, despite it's single core. Is there hope for the following issues? I don't want to return my Xoom, but I'm just a tad upset spending so much on it...
These are the problems I'm having:
Slow downs using YouTube app
Slow downs on home screens and app drawer
Poor browser performance on all browsers (speed, display, text input)
Video recording and playback is choppy/unreliable
Bluetooth tether to Droid X is hit and miss (WiFi works fine)
Volume buttons are darn near impossible to use (lol)
I realize these are all software issues, and CAN be fixed, but does it seem likely? I know the G1 still has development going on and just want to get the most out of this mammoth.
I hate to say it, but I think there might be something wrong with your XOOM since I have experienced none of those problems. Perhaps it needs a factory reset or something?
I definitely agree regarding the volume buttons though, very frustrating to use! Thankfully you only have to hit either one once and then you can control the slider on screen.
zehkaiser said:
I'm pretty disappointed in the Xoom so far. My Droid X seems to perform better than it, despite it's single core. Is there hope for the following issues? I don't want to return my Xoom, but I'm just a tad upset spending so much on it...
These are the problems I'm having:
Slow downs using YouTube app
Slow downs on home screens and app drawer
Poor browser performance on all browsers (speed, display, text input)
Video recording and playback is choppy/unreliable
Bluetooth tether to Droid X is hit and miss (WiFi works fine)
Volume buttons are darn near impossible to use (lol)
I realize these are all software issues, and CAN be fixed, but does it seem likely? I know the G1 still has development going on and just want to get the most out of this mammoth.
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Only problem I have from your list is youtube HD playback. Rest is perfectly fine.
I've found the Xoom to be sluggish at places, even after factory resets. I do think it's a software problem as my O2X (same Tegra chip) isn't slow at all.
Overall it feels like Honeycomb was a bit rushed, and that some things could use a bit more performance tuning.
I think this may be some issue with your device hardware. I got no such slowdowns on my xoom. I concur sometimes youtube hd playback can be sluggish, but it depends on the wifi you're connectrd to speed.
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mine works fine except hd videos in youtube. disable the hd once u can n it will be fast. u can try a factory reset too
one question: How long have you had your xoom?
The reason I ask is for the first couple days after i got my xoom I was AMAZED by how much slower it was than my EVO. After a couple days though it seemed to smooth out and pick up speed.
Overall I'm less impressed with the xoom than I expected to be but I would recommend to any new xoom owner to reserve forming any opinions about it until it sees at least a couple days use.
I guess I'll ride it out for a few more days. I've had it about 4 days. I'll likely go play with a display and see what I get.
Have you flashed a new kernel? The latest tiamat kernel is (in my experience) smoother then stock (and has SD support). But the main thing is wait a few more days for the slowness to stop.
Sent from my Xoom the way it should be, rooted and with SD card.
also you might want to take it back and exchange it i had a bad power button and a few of the problems you have stated in your post so i took mine back and exchanged. Second one worked great and fine so i decided to keep my xoom and root it.
Never had any of those issues listed either. Might want to try the Tiamat kernal and see if that helps out.
Maybe a lemon. Go back to exchange it. Mine is working kicking ass.
OK, so I installed the 1.4.1 Tiamat kernel and wiped data. She seems to be running much better now. The typing in web pages is still a little slow, but I no longer get repeated letters when typing quickly. That was a big problem. I'm much happier, but some things are still a little slow. Looks like things could get better. Thanks for the help. If it's still slow next week after no wipes I'll exchange it as suggested.
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OK, so I installed the 1.4.1 Tiamat kernel and wiped data. She seems to be running much better now. The typing in web pages is still a little slow, but I no longer get repeated letters when typing quickly. That was a big problem. I'm much happier, but some things are still a little slow. Looks like things could get better. Thanks for the help. If it's still slow next week after no wipes I'll exchange it as suggested.
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I noticed the same thing. I rooted as soon as it was available and even with OC it just wasn't smooth. I couldn't get a single live wallpaper to run without slowing the Xoom to a crawl. Then last night I flashed the latest Tiamat kernel and its like a brand new Xoom!
I was going to go back to factory to see if that was the issue, but instead I tried the kernel first. So the two things I did was flash Clockwork recovery and flashed the Tiamat kernel (which cleared cache and Dalvik cache). Whatever it was, its awesome and I have been downloading all the live wallpapers just cause I can!
Mine was a little slow as well and seemed to balance out. Still not as smooth as my Evo for video though, which is depressing. I really expected to see updates by now to fine-tune things.
The silicone cover from Moto completely resolves the volume button issues by making them more prominent and easy to find.
zehkaiser said:
I'm pretty disappointed in the Xoom so far. My Droid X seems to perform better than it, despite it's single core. Is there hope for the following issues? I don't want to return my Xoom, but I'm just a tad upset spending so much on it...
These are the problems I'm having:
Slow downs using YouTube app
Slow downs on home screens and app drawer
Poor browser performance on all browsers (speed, display, text input)
Video recording and playback is choppy/unreliable
Bluetooth tether to Droid X is hit and miss (WiFi works fine)
Volume buttons are darn near impossible to use (lol)
I realize these are all software issues, and CAN be fixed, but does it seem likely? I know the G1 still has development going on and just want to get the most out of this mammoth.
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This doesn't sound anything like a xoom to me. Mine has been running very smoothly from the moment I first turned it on. I even tried to OC to 1.5Ghz but then I changed back to 1Ghz cause it was unnecessary. Maybe you should ask moto to check if there's anything wrong with ur xoom or even get you another one .

tablet sluggish?

i just bought the galaxy tab today, and from the get go, its being very sluggish. key presses are coming with a great delay. even on the home screen, its VERY sluggish going between screens. the delay betwwen keypress and when the letter shows up on the screen is sometimws a couple seconds. i also have the xoom, and it doesnt have any of these issues.
also, when i started the tablet for the first time and finished the setup, the blue HC clock was NOT on the center screen (out of the 5 screens, it was on screen 2).
at last, on any HC 3.1 tablet in general, is there a way to google video AND chat at the same time. whenever i am in a video and want to chat, the video is paused automatically.
ps: there are some grammar errors because im typing from the tab, and the lil green selector used to choose where u want to place cursor is not working right. its never going qhere i put it.
I don't have the tab, but I am sure I read that the sluggish text entry is due to the keyboard, try changing to a different keyboard and see if the issue is still there?
Only time I experience lag, is when typing quickly. It only happens once in a while though
Mine is crazy slow all the way around... Im hopeing touchwiz helps or its out the door. I have an ipad2 (eek!) and theres NO comparison in speed... Its rediculously sluggish in comparison....
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I'm typing from my tab 10.1 now and the only place I have keyboard lag is on a website like this one that's heavy on JavaScript and/or Flash.
I'm hoping that touchwiz or 3.2 will help out. IMO the sluggishness is hardly noticeable.
The home screens have a little lag, but its not too bad (the browser is where the keyboard lag is).
I did experience bad lag with my home screen after install TweetCaster Pro. If you installed a bunch of apps, you might want to try force closing some of them and seeing if performance changes.
i had the same problem. Just out of curiosity was your tab an open box item? Anyways to fix mine I put the device in recovery by powering on while holding the volume down key and then wiped cache and erased all data. The tab is much better now however text entry remains sluggish but this appears to be a problem for all tabs.
So some of the initial user percieved lag when you first finish the initial setup of the tablet is background downloads and syncing of your apps that you have already downloaded on another device (like an Android phone).
If this is the case for you then you will notice an improvement in respone time once this completes. Obviously when it completes depends on your network latency, speed and how many apps and how large they are (among about 150 other factors)
The point is that I believe some of the initial lag folks are noticing can be attributed to previous google accounts syncing upon completion of the initial setup.
If the tab is your first google device and first account with google then it might be another issue that requires more troubleshooting.
no, this is not the intitial lag when the apps are being restored. it has now been a couple days and i am still experiencing the lag. i am about to boot into recovery and wipe the cache and everything, and then try a factory reset. hope that will help out with everything. will report back as soon as im done .
n this is not my first android device, i currently have an evo and a galaxy tab and an epic and a xoom
Please do. I'm shocked by how slow thus thing is. My old Mytouch felt faster than this dog. By the way typing the word dog took almost 2 seconds to appear. I feel like I'm using a net book from 2001.
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I'm typing from my tab 10.1 now and the only place I have keyboard lag is on a website like this one that's heavy on JavaScript and/or Flash.
I'm hoping that touchwiz or 3.2 will help out. IMO the sluggishness is hardly noticeable.
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To be fair as a GT owner, comparing it to a ipad 2 is like comparing a tortoise to a hare. The ipad is much faster and responsive. What I suggest you do though is use Dolphin browser and load the flash elements on a webpage on demand. It will speed things up quite a bit until 3.2 drops in a few weeks...provided we get it in a few weeks. Overall, I'm still quite satisfied with my GT.
Return it, until they fix it.
I traded my iPad 2 for my Galaxy Tab Google I/O. I don't regret trading at all, I have installed Swype and I think that is the best keyboard which is out. I have a Samsung Galaxy S phone which is rooted and the whole nine yards, I feel we are able to do so much more on Android devices than what Steve Jobs allows his products to do.
alrite, jes booted into recovery. wiped cache 3 times, factory reset 3 times...
reboot, did initial setup, all apps r eestored (67)... still experiencing homescreen lag, GREAT keyboard lag... i dig the weight of this tablet, but this lag is not my thing. <--- this whole sentence showed up about 5 seconda after i typed it, had to wait for it to show up so i could check for errors. going to go exchange for another galaxy tab this week, if lag is not fine with that one, i will stick with my xoom for now.
Why do you have both a Xoom and Galaxy Tab? Redundant much?
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i initially had a xoom... i have a 90 day return policy on the xoom (costco), which is over in 15 days now... so i decided to try out the GT and c which 1 i like better, so i can keep the 1 i like better...
iamsupreme said:
Why do you have both a Xoom and Galaxy Tab? Redundant much?
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I don't know if it is something else I did or what but it does seem that opera is super fast by comparison. In other words usable and even comparable to an ipad. Now I just need a thumb keyboard with good auto correct.

lag

i dont know is that normal but my iconia a500 is very lagy whit only 2 pages opet like facebook or cnn...i have the latest 3.2 offical
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You are not he only one, mine also has lag, every Android tablet is ****ty. I also have 3.2 rooted with ad block and in Pulse Reader, it lags like hell, pages load without full content and the socalled "flash" is inexistent most of the time. Scrolling is crap, tired of stuttering. Everybody that say that their tablet is "smooth", either lie, or have no perception of smoothness. They should try an apple bitten logo tablet, I won't say the name, because haters will flame me.
Or they have overclocked like hell, but i don't like overclocking, it eats battery like a termite. And standby is crap also, only 2-3 days max, compared to 30 like "others".
thanx i am hope that acer will fix that it is a big issue ,makes me nutz sometimes..
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You are not he only one, mine also has lag, every Android tablet is ****ty. I also have 3.2 rooted with ad block and in Pulse Reader, it lags like hell, pages load without full content and the socalled "flash" is inexistent most of the time. Scrolling is crap, tired of stuttering. Everybody that say that their tablet is "smooth", either lie, or have no perception of smoothness. They should try an apple bitten logo tablet, I won't say the name, because haters will flame me.
Or they have overclocked like hell, but i don't like overclocking, it eats battery like a termite. And standby is crap also, only 2-3 days max, compared to 30 like "others".
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Dear deio,
I have a perfect perception of smoothness and I'm not going to lie to you - I have A500 with Lightspeed 1.0.4 with stock kernel. Runs SMOOTH AS BUTTER! My brother owns an iPAD 2 and trust me I've played a lot with this useless (for me) thing if that's the idea of "ultimate smoothness". OK, this thread is not about iPADs vs Android tablets (no matter your conclusion that every Android tablet is ****ty), its about the lag OP experienced with OTA 3.2 . huurux , either go ahead for a custom ROM or return your device for replacement.
Having the same problem since i downloaded ota 3.2. When i say lag, i meant like it takes me a couple of minutes to open up an app (not a specific app, almost any app causes the lag) and even that, when i try to execute anything with the app it takes a few more minutes. Android Market also tells me i have updates for my apps, click on update, and the download status bar will marquee endlessly and would not let me download anything. Was thinking i had a bad update.
My question is (and help me out cause i am a noob): Is there a way i can reflash the stock ota 3.2? I have tried the "check for update" but it will just tell me that my android is up-to-date. Please help, have tried looking in the forum but couldnt find a similar solution.
Another noobish question: If i factory reset i assume it will wipe all data. Is there an easy way i can reinstall all the apps i previously had before the factory reset? If so, will i be able to retain all the progress i made in the app? (eg: game progress, rss list, etc)Tks in advance =)
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Another noobish question: If i factory reset i assume it will wipe all data. Is there an easy way i can reinstall all the apps i previously had before the factory reset? If so, will i be able to retain all the progress i made in the app? (eg: game progress, rss list, etc)Tks in advance =)
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Get Titanium backup from Market - its the most usefull app for me that's why I got the paid version. It will backup all your apps with data. The free version would also do the job for you but the batch process of restoring apps later will require pressing OK on each app that is currently being restored.
Thanks for the fast reply. It seems that i am not able to download any apps from the moment because of the problem. Although internet seems to be working.
Try to download Titanium Backup from their web site. As for the lag, I'm on stock 3.2 and I don't have any lag, the tablet runs even faster than with 3.2, so something is causing the lag on your tablet, I suspect a bad application, it happened to me with my iPad and iTouch, that went slow as molasses, and it was bad application. Uninstalled and everything got fine.
So for those so quickly to blame any android tablet, pleas check first that really you didn't install any crap application, specially cracked or pirated ones, that is slowing the system.
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Scrolling is crap, tired of stuttering. Everybody that say that their tablet is "smooth", either lie, or have no perception of smoothness. And standby is crap also, only 2-3 days max, compared to 30 like "others".
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LOL Epic fail
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Dear deio,
I have a perfect perception of smoothness and I'm not going to lie to you - I have A500 with Lightspeed 1.0.4 with stock kernel. Runs SMOOTH AS BUTTER! My brother owns an iPAD 2 and trust me I've played a lot with this useless (for me) thing if that's the idea of "ultimate smoothness". OK, this thread is not about iPADs vs Android tablets (no matter your conclusion that every Android tablet is ****ty), its about the lag OP experienced with OTA 3.2 . huurux , either go ahead for a custom ROM or return your device for replacement.
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I also have this "LightSpeed" ROM, is laggy as hell, this is not a hardware problem, tried with a different Iconia, I also had a TF101, it was a bit better, but lack of USB on the slate made me chose the Iconia.
Sorry but this is about all Android tablets, and I must apologize to you, but I don't believe you. There is no smoothness in ANY Android device.
Ok, recommend a ROM that has the lowest lag, I'll try it.
I really don't get any slowdowns. I am however using tabooney with Richard trip kernel set tobuserspace in setcpu. Its been really good for me
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I'm running EZTerry's "stock" rooted 3.2 OTA ROM without any lag, choppiness, or basically any issues at all. My battery life is what it's always been since buying it in May.
Unfortunately for the OP, if you accepted the OTA you can no longer root so apps like Titanium Backup or flashing a different ROM are no longer an option. You'll have to wait for someone to get root for OTA 3.2.
If you don't mind losing some of your apps, you can try a factory reset, load one app at a time from the market, and see if you can determine if an app is causing your problems.
Deio, continuing to call the A500 community liars and idiots in thread after thread is likely not going to result in much help coming your way. At this point my only advice to you is to eBay your A500 and go buy an iPad. Clearly, the A500 is simply not the device for you and you're never going to be happy with it.
deio, buy a f***ing iPad and leave us alone!
Lag
I've noticed a significant lag when the power plug is on (especially the touchscreen), as soon as I unplug the power cordless everything run smooth... weird
android 3.1
My roommate has the Transformer and I have the Iconia, we both lag like hell every two to three hours for about 5-10mins.
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I've noticed a significant lag when the power plug is on (especially the touchscreen), as soon as I unplug the power cordless everything run smooth... weird
android 3.1
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I also have the power/charge lag problem. I'm on stock rooted 3.1 using Richard Tripp's kernel to OC 1.4. Lagging during charging/ac power has been a problem for my A500 since new, with no root. Something about this engineering that makes it a problem for some units.
Going to load Taboonay and see if it makes a difference.
Lag when in charge
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I also have the power/charge lag problem. I'm on stock rooted 3.1 using Richard Tripp's kernel to OC 1.4. Lagging during charging/ac power has been a problem for my A500 since new, with no root. Something about this engineering that makes it a problem for some units.
Going to load Taboonay and see if it makes a difference.
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My config A500 3.1 rooted, I didn't have this issue be4 3.1 update.
Try thors newest v11. I only get lag on this website for some reason, it takes a quick second for the whole page to show. Its hit and miss. Every now and then it will go away. I watch alot of 720p videos. Both streaming from my home server or downloaded to one of my sdcards. All my daily uses, email, surfing, videos, etc. have almost no lag.
Ok here we go...
The best I can guess from reading about all of your lag problems is that there is a program or programs that are running in your background processes and eating up cpu/memory. Go to settings-applications-running applications and see what is on right now; subsequently see what is running directly after a reboot. If a bunch of random apps are running, it is very likely they are causing the lag. Especially if they are syncing or accessing the web. My suggestion would be to either uninstall these apps or go into their individual settings and turn off anything that would have it constantly working (not just running, it is ok for some apps to run in the background, as Android is programmed to control memory usage while allowing apps to run when not it use, but specifically 'working' in the background will eat up resources). Also, how often do you have your syncs scheduled? Any info that you do not need to have constantly synced (ie backup email addresses, facebook, weather intervals, etc.) should be either turned off or set to sync only a few times a day. For example, I have 11 running apps right now (been running without a reboot for a few days), consisting mainly of core Android processes, my keyboard, email, cpu scaler, and just 2 apps that I have downloaded that run in the background (mind you I have about 50 apps installed).
Furthermore...
All this talk about the iPad and how smooth it is...that's because it utilizes hardware accelerated graphics, something that Android will now have with the release of Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0. True, the level of smoothness on an iPad typically surpasses that of an Android device, but that is soon to change. Then what will the iPad really have? A boring home screen that consists of nothing more than only our app drawer and a ton of games. Android brings WAY more to the table, no question about it.
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I am running a custom rom (Taboonay 2.1b) with an overclocked/undervolted processor (1.4ghz -150mv) and my Iconia gets kick ass battery life. I need to really try to kill this thing, no joke. I play hi-def/3d games, watch flash content on the web, Netflix, internet browsing, email, create word docs, use external usb peripherals, and more. To get the best battery life you just have to be smart about it.
Suggestions:
Turn off auto backlight. I don't think it works very well on the Iconia anyway, I have my brightness set at about 20% and it's perfectly visible (if you're used to having it brighter give it some time, you'll adjust) and when I am in bright light I simply change it as needed.
Check sync schedule. Weather really only needs to be updated like every 3 hours at most. Do you really need to know the temperature AS it changes? Don't think so.
Do you have multiple email addresses? Unless they are work related, you can probably just set them to sync manually and check it a couple times a day without it turning on itself.
Facebook/Twitter syncing is the devil. Unless you are a 15 year old girl that needs to know what her bff is doing at all times, slow down the sync on these apps!
Is your WiFi set to turn off with your screen? This is a BIG ONE! Settings-Wireless/Networks-WiFi Settings-WiFi Disconnect Policy-When Screen Turns Off. You'll notice a change immediately.
For some more info on what's killing your battery, and therefore more than likely sucking up resources and causing lag, go to Settings-Applications-Battery Use. The blue lines should line up accordingly: Your device should only be Awake and have the WiFi on when the Screen is on, except for a few dashes here and there for normal syncing. Large blue squares of Awake when the screen isn't on means something is running in the background that probably shouldn't be. WiFi on all the time kills battery. Get it? Also, the list of apps that take up battery should only be ones that YOU KNOW you are using on a constant basis. If something is on there that you don't normally use a lot, it means it's running in the background and sucking up a lot of resources (other than screen, tablet idle, and Android OS, these should be there).
Moral of the story...
I gave my 3 year old kids my iPhone. It's a kids toy, same with the iPad. Period. An Android device is one of the most powerful, customizable and capable devices available. There is a lot more that can be done with it than with most other more simple devices. With great power comes great responsibility. Take control of your device, what you do with it and what it does. Lag? What lag.
Phew. I'm a little drunk at the moment, so hope I didn't go too crazy here. What was this post about by the way? Ha! Hit the thanks button if this made any sense to anyone out there
Honestly, I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm running stock unrooted 3.2(mostly because I've been too lazy to revert back to a rooted ROM)and have very little to no lag. Realizing that its all personal perception and that I gave my Ipod to my kid so I don't really have anything to compare it to, I'm way more than happy with the performance of my tablet. The only time I have to wait is when I open up the Acer content folders, sometimes it takes a second or two for them to open. I can definitely live with that, if the trade off is a fully usable tablet that I can customize to my own needs. Battery life is well above expectations as well for me. Usually two days of semi-heavy use before I start to get that panicky feeling that comes when my battery meter drops below 30%.

ICS Impressions, please share

Ok so for those that have been able to upgrade to ICS (P6800 owners) what are your toughts?
Now this is what i am looking for:
A) What you like
B) Don't like
C) What would you like to have seen included but wasn't (if anything)
And since having the update what are you looking forward to doing that you couldn't or wouldn't with HC.
Please don't post any issues you have after updating, that is not what this post is intended for.
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Well i don't think that i don't like anything but i haven't really found something that is faulty. It is definitely faster as i immediately noticed that it took less ram, than honey comb, to run. Feels pretty fast with go launcher HD to me and i love it completely. Although i thought that there would be camera improvements as tab 2 7.0 has the same 3 mega pixel camera but does 1080p recording. So i thought that it might be done with tab 7.7 as well with an ics upgrade.
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Well i don't think that i don't like anything but i haven't really found something that is faulty. It is definitely faster as i immediately noticed that it took less ram, than honey comb, to run. Feels pretty fast with go launcher HD to me and i love it completely. Although i thought that there would be camera improvements as tab 2 7.0 has the same 3 mega pixel camera but does 1080p recording. So i thought that it might be done with tab 7.7 as well with an ics upgrade.
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Yea 1080p would have been a nice addition, but 720p is still good.
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Well I love it to and made it up with Samsung:
- first with ICS that tablet really rocks it already did but now it's almost perfect
- smoother faster it seems especially the OOM killer seems more smart, and less memory used it seems
- no more problem with Itap rdp right click with bt mouse
- something I never mentioned. : I developed or try to develop a clone of pronto remote and debug using adb wireless
With HC I could not connect via adb on the computer using ethernet to adb wireless wifi due to packet loss... So had to disable ethernet and enable wifi. With ics no longer this issue...
- I used to have frequent sleep of death for the moment none
- I listen radio everyday through tunein somehow at around 1pm HC always rebooted by itself. Never bothered to figure out why... Now this no longer happen...
- no wifi issue ( some ICS user reported problems). I never had neither with HC except sleep of death or reboot that might be related to wifi?. I use Friztbox 7340 AP.
- my 100+ aps. Seems to all works (of course did not test deeply since yesterday) except gmd gesture control to hide the control bar
-once in a while but quite frequently using HC my EXCHANGE account would vanish...had to re-create every time... waiting to see on this one...Could be my remote application leaking....
So all in all very very happy with this tab and Samsung... Patience was what I missed
- I did wipe and did not have any problem if we refer to brick bug... But you never know...
What I like less
- dialog box theme gray without frame around
- it seems Samy addressed bur-in doing the bar black now....
I preferred it before and I don't have noticeable burn-in ( since march and extensive uses) except using color filter and brightness turned all down then I see slight yellow discoloration... Nothing to complain for me as the TAB HW screen etc are just so great IMO and outweight for me this small detail.
Seriously the TAB rocks for me...
Can you imagine 7.7 with quad core and dream about a 1080p SAMOLED display in a 7'7 TAB for me the perfect size!
I guess I continue buying Samsung.... Despite some of my previous comments... Waiting for the ICS on 8.9 now for my girl friend
Thanks and cheers
A now happy again Samsun tab 7.7 user
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My first impression
i installed the firmware through odin. it was not available on kies. so if i have to claim warranty ( god forbid ) then i guess i have to flash my country's HC firmware back
what i liked is that it is noticibly faster than HC. Apps load faster. lag is less. starting button lag is less. there have been no FC's and almost all of my games are compatible.
what i dislike or rather disappointed is that it does not look or feel much different than HC. no added functionality except Face unlock. what i would have liked is some features of S3.
i am running this for almost 24 hrs now. battery usage is same as HC.
I like that this device is actually usable now. I think I'm going to use it as my main tablet now. I didn't use it with HC because it was just so slow compared to my gt8.9 (running ICS rom).
My first impression: TouchWiz seems much smoother, Go Launcher HD feels the same. Under heavy usage of widgets TouchWiz is still great but Go Launcher HD not. I do love some Go Launcher features so I played around a lot and also tested the new 1.11 beta. But is still less responsive.
It's like a faulty motherboard replaced by a newer and faster one.
Seriously, like a new device, snappy, responsive, seems less battery hungry.
There is one 'custom rom" available, where EDaN has deodexed and removed some bloatware. I took that rom and took out everything social,photo and video editor, and some other minor crap.
Having 60 apps installed and tested it's like Christmas.
- dislike
had to discover I must install busybox to get Titanium working
had to install supersu myself, no biggy
no software based CWM, havent found compatible one, but one thats reboots to recovery anyway.
No powermenu at powerbutton
ugly blueish tint around quickmenu (with shortcuts for bt.wifi etc)
This all will be fixed when chefs get source or get impatient and offer CWM zips
Chainfire3d night mode seems to be not working...
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my only gripe so far is that if you increase the font size to Large, some apps (mostly system apps) seem to have the font go to 'super large' e.g. google play, settings menu, whilst some apps its perfect.
Conversely, going down to medium, most apps are back to Honeycomb tiny font problem, whilst the system apps are fine
Seems like Sammy tweaked the touchwiz stock UI to display fine on medium size, without thinking that 'hey most apps the user will be using needs it set to large hmmmm'. Hoping AOSP ROMs will get around this issue
The tab is more responsive overall. Feels like a new device. But still not loving touchwiz--wish this is a pure Google device. Installing Nova Launcher partially fixes that. Only app not working out well so far is Battery Monitor Widget Pro--the mA usage keeps showing "0". Just about everything else survived the upgrade with no issues.
Add: mA information in Battery monitor widget works is set to "estimation" rather than automatic. So that problem is solved...
I never used tw always adw launcher ex on this device, everything is smoother with ics now we just need some custom roms and kernels so it can catch up to my galaxy note and asus prime
Anyone notice the clipboard function is gone?
In HC, when ublong tap to paste, there are 2 options to choose, PASTE & CLIPBIARD.
in ICS, there's only PASTE.
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I love this new upgrade. The lag is mostly gone, and it's actually more functional. And Chrome looks awesome on the screen.
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Anyone notice the clipboard function is gone?
In HC, when ublong tap to paste, there are 2 options to choose, PASTE & CLIPBIARD.
in ICS, there's only PASTE.
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It only seems to work with the Samsung keyboard. I thought that was also the case in 3.2?
I'm truly loving this tab with ICS. One huge problem is with my WiFi. I experienced once again as it just disconnected and never connected again until I shut it down completely and turned it back on. Logged onto another AP. I hate this problem as I thought I had fixed it. It seems like the WiFi module is overheated and shutdown or something....*SIGH*
when browsing, going back to the previous tabs is still being reloaded. That is my only gripe so far.
Other than that, everything is smoothhhhhh...
I agree. Smooth interface. :-D
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I am using multiling keyboard and the function is there.
Anyway, because of this, I found an app that does more -> Clipper+
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Impressions.
It's good stuff!
First: Hotmail seems to be staying put. Had big bothers with this as account would dissapear from tab. Seems to be fixed now, but need more time.
Second: SD Card behaving. Sweet.
Third: No waiting around for unlock screen to pop up when power button pressed. WTF was that anyway?
Fourth: Swype behaving itself. Kept on getting beeps before, and i would have to change to Samkey and back to swype. One crash so far in google translate.
Fifth: Browser no longer reloading all the time to homepage. seems more stable.
Sixth: Youtube actually responds when choosing a vid. If you hit back before and chose another, it was no longer responsive.
Seventh: AR much more responsive. 1sec response time. instead of 3-4. Overall response time much boosted. Has crossed the line from WTF? to hey... Sweet!
0'ed: Sammy did our super bloody expensive tab first. THANK YOU!
PS: flashed XL4 (United Arab Emirates) with Austrian version.(ODIN 1.85) Not a problem. Did Full Reset before flashing though. All went smooth. Im a very happy camper! Hope i could help.

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