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Viewing that the adoption of Android 4.0 has fallen short of original expectations and Microsoft will launch Windows 8 in the third quarter of 2012, Google is likely to launch Android 5.0 (Jelly Bean) in the second quarter and appeal for adopting Android 5.0 and Windows 8 in the same tablet PC, according to Taiwan-based supply chain makers.
Android 5.0 will be further optimized for tablet PCs, while Google will also integrate its Chrome system functions to push dual-operating system designs. Brand vendors can either choose to adopt only Android 5.0 or add Android 5.0 to Windows 8 devices with the ability to switch between the two OSes without the need to shut down the computer.
Through Android 5.0, Google also wishes to earn another chance to enter the notebook and netbook markets.
However, since Android 4.0 did not perform as well as expected, several of Google's downstream partners are turning conservative about Android 5.0.
Source: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120215PD209.html
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Viewing that the adoption of Android 4.0 has fallen short of original expectations and Microsoft will launch Windows 8 in the third quarter of 2012, Google is likely to launch Android 5.0 (Jelly Bean) in the second quarter and appeal for adopting Android 5.0 and Windows 8 in the same tablet PC, according to Taiwan-based supply chain makers.
Android 5.0 will be further optimized for tablet PCs, while Google will also integrate its Chrome system functions to push dual-operating system designs. Brand vendors can either choose to adopt only Android 5.0 or add Android 5.0 to Windows 8 devices with the ability to switch between the two OSes without the need to shut down the computer.
Through Android 5.0, Google also wishes to earn another chance to enter the notebook and netbook markets.
However, since Android 4.0 did not perform as well as expected, several of Google's downstream partners are turning conservative about Android 5.0.
Source: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120215PD209.html
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Did not perform as well as expected?? How many phones have launched with ics? Maybe a couple? And has anyone even got an ics update yet?
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muyoso said:
Did not perform as well as expected?? How many phones have launched with ics? Maybe a couple? And has anyone even got an ics update yet?
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Sounds like they were only considering the tablet and notebook performance, i could be wrong though.
kennyglass123 said:
Sounds like they were only considering the tablet and notebook performance, i could be wrong though.
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yeah sounds like jelly bean will purely be a tablet based os like honeycomb.. so no jelly bean for us unless of course you have a tab
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Biggoron said:
yeah sounds like jelly bean will purely be a tablet based os like honeycomb.. so no jelly bean for us unless of course you have a tab
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The whole point of ICS was to join the two. I highly doubt 5.0 will be soley for tablets.
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I didn't understand it either... ICS hasn't been out long at all is only officially on 1 device. Jellybean, I believe, is supposed to continue being for both Phones and Tablets.
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I didn't understand it either... ICS hasn't been out long at all is only officially on 1 device. Jellybean, I believe, is supposed to continue being for both Phones and Tablets.
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I too thought ICS was supposed to finally merge phone and tablet. One OS for both, working well on both. Perhaps it doesn't perform well on tablets, but it performs well on phones?
I don't think they'll release JB for tabs only, as that would then just increase fragmentation, which they're desperately trying to get away from. Perhaps it will be a fresher version of ICS only working better on tablets? Maybe it won't be 5.0 after all, maybe more like a 4.1 release.
I doubt 5.0 will be out so soon it'll be out a little after we start seeing next Gen phones my guess a little after sgs3
If we do see jellybean in 2012 I bet it won't be until late in the year.
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Google is likely to launch Android 5.0 (Jelly Bean) in the second quarter and appeal for adopting Android 5.0 and Windows 8 in the same tablet PC, according to Taiwan-based supply chain makers.
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Utter garbage. Microsoft has been very clear that ANY tablet device running Windows 8 MUST have a locked BIOS, meaning Windows 8 is the ONLY OS that will be able to run on these devices. This is for security purposes (and they don't want a bunch of dual-booting Windows tablets), and Microsoft has forced all OEM's to agree to this - it's out of their control.
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Utter garbage. Microsoft has been very clear that ANY tablet device running Windows 8 MUST have a locked BIOS, meaning Windows 8 is the ONLY OS that will be able to run on these devices. This is for security purposes (and they don't want a bunch of dual-booting Windows tablets), and Microsoft has forced all OEM's to agree to this - it's out of their control.
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I agree with you Dante, I'm seeing this "rumor" everywhere on electronics sights, but no source is ever sited where's the credibility
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The article mentions accessing android without needing to reboot which would imply some type of setup other than "dual-boot." Possibly using emulation or some other trickery. Also consider all the motorola handsets with locked + encrypted bootloaders that dev's got CM running on through some type of secondary boot loader. Google is full of smart people who could pop into XDA, read up on how it was done, and then package that up for these windows 8 tabs...lol!
I saw that the nexus 7 comes with Chrome as default browser. Does it mean no more flash support?
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Fairly sure Chrome supports, if not will support, flash?
If not then the new build of Firefox which is out supports flash :highfive:
Chrome does not, and will not, support Flash.
I believe other browsers that support Flash should be fine though (for now).
As long as Adobe supports Jelly Bean, Flash should still work normally in other browsers.
I dint think chrome will be supporting it. just use opera mobile then
Opera mobile the best anyways
But I remember adobe once saying that ICS will be the last android version to support adobe flash.. Not sure though..
This got me curious, so I spent some time looking around the Nexus 7 webpage. It says that Flash IS supported, just not in Chrome. The note says that you can download Browser from Google Play. Presumably, other browsers with plugin support (Firefox 14) should be compatible as well.
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But I remember adobe once saying that ICS will be the last android version to support adobe flash.. Not sure though..
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It is. Though Jelly Bean isn't that big a jump OS wise, so it shouldn't have broken flash compatibility.
Chrome for android does not support flash and according to Adobe, it won't. Apparently you'll be able to download the usual default browser on the play store if you require flash, or an assortment of 3rd party browsers that support flash.
I'm not sure if anyone notice...
If you look at the Flash in Play Store, Adobe states that "Flash Player will not be supported in any Android version beyond 4.0.X"
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not being supported doesn't necessarily mean it wont work
Thank god. After all these years, Flash is dead.
Adobe has dropped flash support themselves I believe, which is understandable as flash is indeed on its way out now with many web apps and websites in general turning to HTML5 as more universal coding method. However, whilst Chrome does not support flash, simply installing another browser onto the Nexus should allow you flash support (Skyfire browser I think for one).
In my opinion, the stock browser in ICS, especially with quick controls enabled, is the best browser I've ever used. I'm happy to hear it will be available for download, however am indeed worried about getting flash installed on Jellybean. Adobe is not releasing Flash updates past security & fixes. one big thing I love about ICS is the ability to load full net pages, which use flash, at my choosing and would hate to loose this functionality if flash is not compatible with Jellybean.
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Thank god. After all these years, Flash is dead.
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You are my first boo post....... Booooooooo! There felt good
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This. Adobe won't fix it, but if it worked on ics it should still work on jelly bean. The next version is probably screwed though.
As stated before Adobe has stated before after ICS no more flash support.
Chrome for android never supported flash to begin with.
Frankly I think flash is a poor user experience on a tablet anyway.
It's unfortunately true: Chrome on Jelly Bean does not and will not support Flash. Chrome looks amazing otherwise. The question is: Will XDA devs be able to bake flash back in? Using a non-flash supporting browser is simply out of the question for me.
Don't get me started on how the rational of dropping flash support no longer applies. Tablets are now quad-core beasts that are supposed to replace laptops and provide the most complete browsing experience. I think Google -like Apple- just wants people to consume its media instead.
Why not just use a market browser that supports flash like Dolphin?
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Why not just use a market browser that supports flash like Dolphin?
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Sure, there's always 'that' solution, but it also means you miss out on Chrome. Firefo is bloody amazing but you need to re-load every page in Desktop mode, there's now way to make the client desktop from the start.
I want to use Chrome (mostly bec of the sync options with the desktop verison), but I also want to have flash... That's the thing.
Sounds like Flash on Android is finally coming to an end. From Jelly Bean onwards Flash will no longer be available to download from the Play Store unless it's pre installed on a certified device.
So does that discount Nexus devices then?
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/06/flash-player-and-android-update.html
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Sounds like Flash on Android is finally coming to an end. From Jelly Bean onwards Flash will no longer be available to download from the Play Store unless it's pre installed on a certified device.
So does that discount Nexus devices then?
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/06/flash-player-and-android-update.html
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I never had flash installed on my phone, so Im ok with this
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Sounds like Flash on Android is finally coming to an end. From Jelly Bean onwards Flash will no longer be available to download from the Play Store unless it's pre installed on a certified device.
So does that discount Nexus devices then?
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/06/flash-player-and-android-update.html
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HTML5 will replace Flash
Yes true, but it remains to be seen how fast media streaming websites adopt html 5 and dispense with flash.
For instance, I can currently watch tv programs from our national tv station as I have Flash installed.
However look at the situation if I upgrade my phone and no longer have flash. Now what? It's one thing to say the browser can pay html 5 . But that's only going to be a realistic alternative when Flash is replaced by the media companies. It's that type of scenario in thinking of.
What's the situation like in the US and elsewhere?
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Adobe should rather provide a kind of plugin which can abstract the flash and provide the html5 interface working for existing flash based web pages.
There has to be a solution for back word compatibility. It will be sad if we cant play so many good websites which are developed on flash.
I hope Google and Adobe can provide good solution for back word compatibly
I wont miss it. I've had it installed but the browser is always set to load plugins on demand but I newer use it.
Hopefully html5 will replace it fully soon. It needs to deliver better performance.
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The developers of Adobe Flash have stated that they will no longer support devices 4.1+. Yes, HTML5 is supposed to replace flash. Hopefully it works out better with performance and load speed. One is to only hope.
Steve Jobs was correct, Flash was not made for touchscreen devices
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Steve Jobs was correct, Flash was not made for touchscreen devices
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No, more precisely, we have new technology to do what flash does, so it will be replaced and it is being replaced.
Flash can be tune to work with a touchscreen but since it going be replaced soon, putting on more effort to it is kind of pointless. Seeing how buggy it runs on Linux, I don't think I would miss it at all. I look forward to the day when I no longer needs it.
Currently there is a work around for no flash on 4.1. All I did was install the Firefox beta and then flash. It works but is kind of buggy. I just had a few websites I had to have flash for.
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Sounds like Flash on Android is finally coming to an end. From Jelly Bean onwards Flash will no longer be available to download from the Play Store unless it's pre installed on a certified device.
So does that discount Nexus devices then?
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Just back up your flash app, e.g., using TitaniumBackup, and restore it once you are running Jelly Bean.
It likely will continue to work that way.
You just won't be able to do a fresh install from the market.
The Android 4.2, JellyBean update will not be available for Nexus S or Motorola XOOM users.
This news was confirmed by Google's Jean-Baptiste Queru, who stated that both devices will remain running Android 4.1.2.
The reasoning behind the software not updating to the latest build of Android is due to the older hardware included on the Nexus S and Motorola XOOM.
There were already reports of Android 4.1 running slow on both devices, so updating to the newer build would not be the best idea.
The Android 4.2 JellyBean update finally rolled out to Nexus 4 pre-release users earlier this week.
The Nexus 4 smartphone will now have the ability to upgrade to the latest version on Android 4.2, which brings features that Google has previously covered such as Lock screen widgets and Multi-user support.
Lock screen widgets appear on the device's lock screen and allows the user to customize them in order to view their calendar, email, and to also identify music with Sound Search.
Multi-user support is an interesting feature that allows Nexus 10 users to share their tablet with others by creating separate customizable spaces for each person. In order to log in, users can simply turn on their tablet and tap their photo and they will be able to access their own customized version of their homescreen, apps, email, photos, and storage.
Users can customize their homescreen by choosing a wallpaper, adding favorite apps and games from Google Play, creating folders, and arranging beautiful widgets by dragging and dropping.
A Google spokesperson confirmed to 9to5 Google that Nexus 10 and Nexus 4 users will be prompted to install the update once they power up their devices for the first time.
Google has also introduced a new security feature on Android 4.2, JellyBean, that aims to reduce the running of malware on an Android device.
A similar software to this was released in the past with Bouncer, which was available in the Google Play store .
Bouncer checked applications in the Play store for malicious content.
Now Google has implemented similar software directly into the Android operating system that will detect any foul play coming from foreign programs.
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Really detailed information. Thanks for sharing.
yes its a sad news fir nexus s users
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I think the nexus can handle it, with the right optimization. But that's too much work for a nexus device apparently. Don't get me started on the Xoom. Yes, dual core doesn't always mean better, but the CPU definitely was better than the ns, and with a gig of ram (same as the gnex), it should run.
/rant
P.s detailed post, thanks dude
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My nexus handles 4.2 pretty well. That's bull****
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BenHeng said:
My nexus handles 4.2 pretty well. That's bull****
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you use the dark one rom ?
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you use the dark one rom ?
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There is already a stable ROM on 4.2? Our is it one of the two teaser ROMs in Dev section?
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OP - I'll believe it when I see it.
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>Implying we won't get it via CM10.1
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>Implying we won't get it via CM10.1
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I hope we will get it through CM when they start CM10.1
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4.2 with some luck we get it by xda dev i think ...
Thé from I am the dark one is kinda good almost everything is working. it is my daily driver :
The only annoying bug is that gesture typing doesn't work if you flash a custom kernel , either through swype or stock keyboard.
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maybe the 4.2 have no bg difference on 4.1.2, i believe theres someone out there who will port it for nexus s users.
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OP - I'll believe it when I see it.
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JBQ did really say that.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA/3cotWkQ-20wJ
how i wish that my gathered news was a false palm but looks like they are serious about it
I think it was a good decision on Google's part. I really had issues with the RAM requirements of JB and ICS. It always ran fairly slow when you got any heavy app running like Chrome or Maps or certain games. It really comes down to the apps being heavy but on GB the 50 - 100mb of RAM not being used by the OS really tends to go a long way when you have such hungry apps running.
tldr; Nexus S needs more ram to run JB well. I ended up going back to a GB rom (in my sig)
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I think it was a good decision on Google's part. I really had issues with the RAM requirements of JB and ICS. It always ran fairly slow when you got any heavy app running like Chrome or Maps or certain games. It really comes down to the apps being heavy but on GB the 50 - 100mb of RAM not being used by the OS really tends to go a long way when you have such hungry apps running.
tldr; Nexus S needs more ram to run JB well. I ended up going back to a GB rom (in my sig)
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This is not 100% true. If you use an debloated JB ROM with a kernel having Big Mem patch, Nexus S won't let you down (except for high end 3D games). I am running 4.2 on my Nexus S now and I have 140 MB free RAM with stock kernel. If I'll flash bedalus kernel, I think I'll have even more.
This decision from google is let's say just political
so true, with the help of bedalus marmite kernel you will got 400+mb free mem.
i think the OS are not the issue but the apps and processor matters also the internal memory...
Google mocks us!
Since I passed under android 4.2, my Nexus S works much better than before. Réactivity & performance too. I think Google wants us to change for the Nexus 4 is now impossible to buy!
even its not coming, no problem coz we already have 4.2.1 on my nexus s
thanks articudos for making Jellyshot v1.0 android version 4.2.1 , thanks for making our dream come true
here for those who want the said version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023699
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have tried dolphin xscope and firefox cannot get flash to work. any ideas
stevethewelshman said:
have tried dolphin xscope and firefox cannot get flash to work. any ideas
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I didn't think Dolphin ever worked post-Jellybean, but Firefox for sure did under 4.3. Have you checked to make sure that plug-ins are enabled (and of course have Flash sideloaded)?
It doesn't work. 4.4 breaks flash player for some reason. Hence, that's why I went back to 4.3 (or at least tried and then my N7 got fubar'd for some reason and I've done this numerous times, so it couldn't be due to pilot error).
Hopefully, Firefox will either get updated to work, or if it's because the Flash Player doesn't work anymore with 4.4, then I'll be sticking with 4.3, maybe even going back to 4.1.2 as 4.3 seems to get choppy.
From what I've been reading it seems that the 4.4 Web engine is chromium based now so the only way to get flash working is through server side browsers such as Puffin. I had to go back to a 4.3 ROM for my NBA games and other streams.
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From what I've been reading it seems that the 4.4 Web engine is chromium based now so the only way to get flash working is through server side browsers such as Puffin. I had to go back to a 4.3 ROM for my NBA games and other streams.
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Well that sucks, especially since Puffin is choppy with the flash videos. I guess kit kat is no more for me on my Nexus (once I get my RMA back).
Ugh, that sucks. Wait till people try watching Amazon Instant Video. :-/ OTOH hopefully this will create enough complaints that they'll finally release an app.
I've tried Puffin on iPad and the video quality didn't remotely compare. Smooth framerate is kinda important when watching figure skating.
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Ugh, that sucks. Wait till people try watching Amazon Instant Video. :-/ OTOH hopefully this will create enough complaints that they'll finally release an app.
I've tried Puffin on iPad and the video quality didn't remotely compare. Smooth framerate is kinda important when watching figure skating.
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Amazon Instant Video is EXACTLY why I need to go back to 4.3 or prior. Puffin is just not acceptable for this. It's a nice try, but it's just too choppy and unwatchable.
What REALLY needs to happen is Amazon needs to get off of their duff, get away from flash and release an HTML5 version of their viewer AND release it for Android devices, not just their Kindle, the red-headed-step-child of Android devices.
Just a footnote.... Dolphin has ran flash perfectly up to 4.2.2 anyway.
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Also.... This flash stuff and other things are starting to make me think Android is trying to lean towards the apple way of doing things. Html5? Bullplop ..flash still dominates the Internet. Not just Android, but the phone makers too. Making unlockable boot loaders and what not.
Scary!
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Just a footnote.... Dolphin has ran flash perfectly up to 4.2.2 anyway.
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Also.... This flash stuff and other things are starting to make me think Android is trying to lean towards the apple way of doing things. Html5? Bullplop ..flash still dominates the Internet. Not just Android, but the phone makers too. Making unlockable boot loaders and what not.
Scary!
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Actually, Adobe is the one that dropped Flash from Android. They quit developing for it about a year ago.
Html5 IS supposed to be the standardized way of doing multimedia so that it is standard across all browsers, mobile, desktop, etc. When it eventually gets to that point, is anybody's guess.
So, it's not Android/Google forcing people off of Flash, it was Adobe as they refused to develop for it anymore. They apparently couldn't get it to work reliably and efficiently, although it seemed to be doing fine to me. My guess is they finally realized that Flash apparently was not built well for mobile applications and they didn't feel like putting much more effort into it. Sounds like a case of giving up if you ask me.
Oh well, hopefully HTML5 will work better. I'd like to know how Google does it with their Google Play movies, as well as how the VuDu app streams the videos. They seem to do it just fine. Not sure why Amazon doesn't do it that way as well.
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Actually, Adobe is the one that dropped Flash from Android. They quit developing for it about a year ago.
Html5 IS supposed to be the standardized way of doing multimedia so that it is standard across all browsers, mobile, desktop, etc. When it eventually gets to that point, is anybody's guess.
So, it's not Android/Google forcing people off of Flash, it was Adobe as they refused to develop for it anymore. They apparently couldn't get it to work reliably and efficiently, although it seemed to be doing fine to me. My guess is they finally realized that Flash apparently was not built well for mobile applications and they didn't feel like putting much more effort into it. Sounds like a case of giving up if you ask me.
Oh well, hopefully HTML5 will work better. I'd like to know how Google does it with their Google Play movies, as well as how the VuDu app streams the videos. They seem to do it just fine. Not sure why Amazon doesn't do it that way as well.
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Yep. Adobe have not certified any version of Adobe Flash Player to run correctly on any version of Android after Ice Cream Sandwich.
cf. this blog post from Adobe, circa 2012...
"There will be no certified implementations of Flash Player for Android 4.1."
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/06/flash-player-and-android-update.html.
The fact that Adobe Flash Player 'sort-of' runs OK on some versions of (pre v4.3) Jellybean, is more of an issue of fortuitous serendipity, than it is an issue if intelligent directed design.
Adobe Flash Player is essentially finished on the Android platform... I just hope that the much vaunted HTML5 standard very quickly takes it's place.
Rgrds,
Ged.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548001
Flash working on my Nexus 7, running stock 4.4 KRT16S. Pity it is with Dolphin browser but its something.
What GedBlake said.
AFAIK, Flash is broken from 4.3 onwards in WebView-based browsers. Look up issue 58608 in the AOSP Issue Tracker. Note this comment:
"Adobe stopped supporting the Flash plugin on Android quite a while ago. We continued to try and keep the old plugin working for a while, but as of 4.3 plugin support has been deprecated and is no longer supported."
There's a bigger issue looming in KitKat, with Google purposely crippling WebView to force people to Chrome (see issue 62293). KitKat hasn't gotten enough pick up yet for people to notice. I suspect that eventually someone will have to bite the bullet, dump WebView, and build a more recent version of the WebKit library into their browser to work around this.
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What GedBlake said.
AFAIK, Flash is broken from 4.3 onwards in WebView-based browsers. Look up issue 58608 in the AOSP Issue Tracker. Note this comment:
"Adobe stopped supporting the Flash plugin on Android quite a while ago. We continued to try and keep the old plugin working for a while, but as of 4.3 plugin support has been deprecated and is no longer supported."
There's a bigger issue looming in KitKat, with Google purposely crippling WebView to force people to Chrome (see issue 62293). KitKat hasn't gotten enough pick up yet for people to notice. I suspect that eventually someone will have to bite the bullet, dump WebView, and build a more recent version of the WebKit library into their browser to work around this.
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I don't confess to understand technically all you wrote but generally I have found my need for Flash has diminished nicely as getting Flash hacks have been getting more challenging. I was on 4.2.2 for ages due many issues including this Flash issue, I moved to 4.4 found broke flash so went down to 4.3 to find I preferred 4.4 and willing to forego flash. So it's a nice bonus to get flash back with this Dolphin hack as it gives that bit more time for flash death.
Fine, let me translate.
As GedBlake posted, Adobe quit supporting Flash past Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0). They did do security updates for a while, but only for 4.0, and I believe they've stopped doing those as well; to quote:
"On September 10 2013, Adobe released Flash Player 11.1.111.73 for Android 2.x and 3.x and 11.1.115.81 for Android 4.0.x in keeping with statements made in Adobe's publicly available Flash Roadmap. This release is the final update release of Flash Player for the Android operating system."
Adobe's statements tend to be obtuse and full of weasel words, but I think that one's pretty clear: They're done with patching Flash on Android.
A lot of people have confused these security updates as being continued support for new ROM versions, which is wrong. As it turns out, that confusion is actually Google's fault. To wit:
"Adobe stopped supporting the Flash plugin on Android quite a while ago. We continued to try and keep the old plugin working for a while, but as of 4.3 plugin support has been deprecated and is no longer supported."
Translation: Google, without telling anyone, attempted to semi-officially keep Flash working. Their unofficial, under the radar support enabled people to run Flash on versions it shouldn't have worked on, which led to heaps of confusion about whether or not it was supported. That has ended. As of 4.3, Google has officially quit.
Again, none of this should've mattered, since Adobe quit at 4.0, and Flash is Adobe's product. Google was under no obligation to even try to support it (Flash is not their product), but they did anyway, which confused everyone. That is no longer the case.
As of 4.3, if Flash works, it's only through unofficial hacks. It is likely that said hacks would use old versions of Flash Player, which are no longer being patched. Running any of them is a security risk. Buyer beware.
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Fine, let me translate. .... <snip>
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no I was on about your earlier technical explanation. Your reply now is about finger-pointing between Adobe and Google.
Personally, these hacks are perfectly ok, they allow limited situations where Flash in browser is better/essential than new native apps. The need for Flash is diminishing. When I got my first android device (N7 2012 in August 2012) "out the box" Flash didn't work but did with Firefox in desktop mode and applying the last Android supported Flash APKs. At the time, apps I used like Hulu Plus were buggy, now much more stable, the BBC Iplayer apps was very limited and cumbersome, now it is excellent. So my need to use Flash has dropped dramatically in the last 16 months.
I use Splashtop to a WoL Windows 7 old computer plugged into my home router for these niggling areas which don't quite work on Android. For me I also got issues like with Lotus Notes, on Android a few issues are really painful, I manage those via Splashtop but otherwise use local native apps.
This workaround will work basically "forever" as long Flash is supported on Windows 7. Pick your imperfect hack basically. I am glad I got a bit more time with local Flash via Dolphin, just in case, to complement remote desktop, and the improving non-Flash alternatives.
http://youtu.be/NIkaixDp0O0
iBolski said:
It doesn't work. 4.4 breaks flash player for some reason. Hence, that's why I went back to 4.3 (or at least tried and then my N7 got fubar'd for some reason and I've done this numerous times, so it couldn't be due to pilot error).
Hopefully, Firefox will either get updated to work, or if it's because the Flash Player doesn't work anymore with 4.4, then I'll be sticking with 4.3, maybe even going back to 4.1.2 as 4.3 seems to get choppy.
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Adobe does not support android 4.4 kitkat to have adobe flash player as a native system feature but flash can be installed manually on android 4.4 kitkat.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I certainly can't be bothered "trying"to get flash working on 4.3 or 4.4....Then it still be unstable.
My n7 will die with 4.2.2 on it.
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