[Q] No more FLASH support on jelly bean? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I saw that the nexus 7 comes with Chrome as default browser. Does it mean no more flash support?
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Fairly sure Chrome supports, if not will support, flash?
If not then the new build of Firefox which is out supports flash :highfive:

Chrome does not, and will not, support Flash.
I believe other browsers that support Flash should be fine though (for now).

As long as Adobe supports Jelly Bean, Flash should still work normally in other browsers.

I dint think chrome will be supporting it. just use opera mobile then
Opera mobile the best anyways

But I remember adobe once saying that ICS will be the last android version to support adobe flash.. Not sure though..

This got me curious, so I spent some time looking around the Nexus 7 webpage. It says that Flash IS supported, just not in Chrome. The note says that you can download Browser from Google Play. Presumably, other browsers with plugin support (Firefox 14) should be compatible as well.

nishant_713 said:
But I remember adobe once saying that ICS will be the last android version to support adobe flash.. Not sure though..
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It is. Though Jelly Bean isn't that big a jump OS wise, so it shouldn't have broken flash compatibility.

Chrome for android does not support flash and according to Adobe, it won't. Apparently you'll be able to download the usual default browser on the play store if you require flash, or an assortment of 3rd party browsers that support flash.

I'm not sure if anyone notice...
If you look at the Flash in Play Store, Adobe states that "Flash Player will not be supported in any Android version beyond 4.0.X"
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not being supported doesn't necessarily mean it wont work

Thank god. After all these years, Flash is dead.

Adobe has dropped flash support themselves I believe, which is understandable as flash is indeed on its way out now with many web apps and websites in general turning to HTML5 as more universal coding method. However, whilst Chrome does not support flash, simply installing another browser onto the Nexus should allow you flash support (Skyfire browser I think for one).

In my opinion, the stock browser in ICS, especially with quick controls enabled, is the best browser I've ever used. I'm happy to hear it will be available for download, however am indeed worried about getting flash installed on Jellybean. Adobe is not releasing Flash updates past security & fixes. one big thing I love about ICS is the ability to load full net pages, which use flash, at my choosing and would hate to loose this functionality if flash is not compatible with Jellybean.

qoncept said:
Thank god. After all these years, Flash is dead.
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You are my first boo post....... Booooooooo! There felt good

TheSeanR said:
not being supported doesn't necessarily mean it wont work
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This. Adobe won't fix it, but if it worked on ics it should still work on jelly bean. The next version is probably screwed though.

As stated before Adobe has stated before after ICS no more flash support.
Chrome for android never supported flash to begin with.
Frankly I think flash is a poor user experience on a tablet anyway.

It's unfortunately true: Chrome on Jelly Bean does not and will not support Flash. Chrome looks amazing otherwise. The question is: Will XDA devs be able to bake flash back in? Using a non-flash supporting browser is simply out of the question for me.
Don't get me started on how the rational of dropping flash support no longer applies. Tablets are now quad-core beasts that are supposed to replace laptops and provide the most complete browsing experience. I think Google -like Apple- just wants people to consume its media instead.

Why not just use a market browser that supports flash like Dolphin?

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Why not just use a market browser that supports flash like Dolphin?
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Sure, there's always 'that' solution, but it also means you miss out on Chrome. Firefo is bloody amazing but you need to re-load every page in Desktop mode, there's now way to make the client desktop from the start.
I want to use Chrome (mostly bec of the sync options with the desktop verison), but I also want to have flash... That's the thing.

Related

Tired of Slow Laggy Flash Support?

Check this out..
Now if only one of our Devs can get their hands on a beta.
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/10/05/flash-player-10-1-to-support-smartphones-nvidia-powered-netbook/
Video of palm pre running flash 10
Adobe has announced that Flash 10.1 will support GPU acceleration for NVIDIA graphics, which means that if you've got a computer with NVIDIA GeForce, ION, or Tegra graphics in it, you should be able to watch high definition Flash video in fullscreen mode even if you have a slow processor like an Intel Atom or ARM-based chip.
What's more, Adobe is going to bring Flash 10.1 to Smartphones, ending the separate but unequal era of Flash Lite. Flash 10.1 will be available for Blackberry, Windows Mobile, Google Android, and Symbian phones. The iPhone's not on that list because Adobe still hasn't worked out an arrangement with Apple to add support for Flash 10.1 to the iPhone's Safari web browser, but that could still happen.
Flash 10.1 is due to hit the streets in the first half of 2010. But there should be beta versions available before the end of 2009.
Thread reopened as reason for closure is unclear.
It was probably auto-closed for having the word "Flash" in it or something.
Anyway, I really do hope this is true. It'll likely make competition between mobile and desktop browsers, which is a good thing, since before the iPhone, Opera Mobile, Iris Browser, and finally the Android browser, the mobile web was one of those areas that you would have to expect your site sliced-and-diced to fit the screen.
P.S.: wouldn't this go in the Dream general forum? It's not specifically related to dev'ing, other than the fact that ROM devs would likely cook Flash into their ROMs once the beta leaks or something.
I'm not sure where it is but about 2 months ago they demoed the alpha of the same flash on the g1 with gpu acceleration as well. seemed to run nicely. basically it comes out at the "end of this year" according to the adobe dev emails I get. Unless of course we can get a leak sooner. can't wait
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It was probably auto-closed for having the word "Flash" in it or something.
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We don't auto close anything, however mods have the option to close multiple threads at once, someone might have ticked the wrong box, really we're humans
Greetz,
Flar
p.s. I think it would be better suited in dream general indeed and will move it.
I thought Android's browser was webkit based?
If it is, then there is no logical reason that iPhone-Safari can't already have it, since that is also webkit. My guess is just Apple being stupid and rejecting it as usual.
All the more reason to buy an Android.
I think Apple wont allow it because full flash can take a big bite out of the apple app store/itunes
(just my opinion)

Every one please read this if you have android in phones or tablets

Flash is waving a tearful farewell to Android, with Adobe confirming that it won't be supporting Flash Player on Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, and furthermore will be blocking people from installing Flash Player from mid-August.
On its blog, the company behind Photoshop confirms that Jelly Bean kit won't get Flash support, matter-of-factly writing, "We have not continued developing and testing Flash player for this new version of Android and its available browser options."
From 15 August, Adobe is going to limit access to Flash Player updates to devices that already have the Player installed. That means that if you don't have the app installed by then, you won't be able to get it.
Moreover, Adobe warns that when devices get updated from Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich to 4.1 Jelly Bean, the player "may exhibit unpredictable behaviour, as it is not certified for use with Android 4.1". Adobe recommends uninstalling Flash before upgrading your phone or tablet to Jelly Bean.
If you own a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Motorola Xoom or Google Nexus S you should take note, as these are gadgets that Google has confirmed to receive Android 4.1 Jelly Bean in mid-July.
Flash comes pre-installed on many current smart phones, but it looks like this won't continue, as Flash -- once one of Android's biggest selling points -- continues its quiet exit from Google's operating system.
Apple denied Flash access to its own iOS platform from day one, something that forced many websites to switch to HTML5 to ensure anyone browsing on an iPhone or iPad could still watch video. It looks like this is one battle Apple has won.
Flash was nice to have when introduced to Froyo back in 2010. In the last 2 years, the internet has evolved away from Flash. HTML 5 is more and more prevalent, and rightly so. Flash, while acceptable on a newer smart phone, still is far laggier than other video solutions. And the fact remains that Flash has a LOT of security flaws. They patch 1 and 2 more are discovered.
By the time Jelly Bean hits our devices, Flash just won't be needed. It's time to look forward.
How can I tell if pornhub runs flash or html5?
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Chrome Beta does not support Flash. Use that and see if videos work.
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How can I tell if pornhub runs flash or html5?
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Can't tell if serious or fapping.
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Can't tell if serious or fapping.
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i lol'd
Doesn't the iPad not have flash and don't they play videos fine?
No, unless the website in question uses HTML 5. That's why iPeople have to download hundreds of stupid little apps for websites. Instead of the full web experience, it has to be translated into a non-flash app... for EACH site.
O.P. could at least credit
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/fl...jelly-bean-will-be-pulled-from-play-50008441/
from where his entire post comes.
pwn3d

[Q] Nexus 7 & Amazon Instant Video

While I'm waiting for my pre-ordered Nexus 7 to arrive, I'm wondering if I'll be able to use it to stream free videos from my Amazon Prime account.
I've read:
- the Nexus 7 default Chrome browser doesn't support Flash
- Adobe won't support Flash beyond Android 4.0, leaving Jelly Bean (4.1) unsupported.
- Google Play won't allow downloading Flash to an unsupported device
So it seems my options may be twofold:
1) Try installing ATVAndroidClient.apk (I've got a copy)
or
2) Try installing Adobe Flash (I obtained a copy from the Adobe site) and a second web browser that will support Flash such as Firefox.
Has anybody enabled Amazon Instant Video on their Nexus 7? If so, how?
Anybody have any other options for making this work?
Thanks,
Mark
Couldn't you just install the amazon instant video apk?
i do not have a Nexus 7 but i have a Galaxy Nexus which i installed the I/O version of jelly bean on.
I can confirm that Flash worked perfectly with Firefox (chrome does not support it) and the stock browser (one rom included that).
i tested with amazon prime instant video and youtube.
Proof: https://plus.google.com/u/0/11312817...ts/5kE9YdBDrDM
As you said, after August 15th flash will be removed from the market, so have to backup and then install the APK manually.
As bammarata said, the Amazon Instant Video APK from the Kindle Fire does work, however you can't be rooted and it has issues working at any resolution other than that of the Fire.
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Couldn't you just install the amazon instant video apk?
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No app afaik...yet...
I'd guess that if nexus s becomes a big seller it would force those sites to start accelerating porting content to html 5 but yeah in the short term those flashed based sites will be difficult to but i have heard that while not officially suppoted, the nexus does work with amazon prime
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the ipad sells great and the web hasn't adopted HTML5 yet
And there is an AIV apk, ripped from the kindle fire, easy find through google. But it has issues on any resolution other than the stock fire one.
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the ipad sells great and the web hasn't adopted HTML5 yet
And there is an AIV apk, ripped from the kindle fire, easy find through google. But it has issues on any resolution other than the stock fire one.
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Actually a lot of the sites are migrating over to htnl 5 fast enough though thats why i said hopefully it accelerates it
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ATVAndroidClient.apk
I'm sorry. Maybe I should have been clearer. ATVAndroidClient.apk is the Amazon Instant Video apk that came from the Kindle Fire.
Like bammarata89 says, Amazon has not released an Amazon Instant Video App for any other devices and I'm asking if I couldn't just install the amazon instant video apk on the Nexus 7. I was wondering if anyone has tried this yet or if perhaps someone had any other alternatives such as Neok44 using Flash and Firefox.
Thanks
You can currently install Flash & Air on the device. Down the road, just make sure you have a TiBU & restore Flash that way.
I have a Nexus 7 from I/O and unfortunately neither the AIV app or Flash in the browser work (although it installs just fine from the market). It was the first thing I tried after they gave it to us since I own some stuff on AIV and have a Prime account. Bummer, hopefully Amazon gets on top of it and supports HTML5.
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I have a Nexus 7 from I/O and unfortunately neither the AIV app or Flash in the browser work (although it installs just fine from the market). It was the first thing I tried after they gave it to us since I own some stuff on AIV and have a Prime account. Bummer, hopefully Amazon gets on top of it and supports HTML5.
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Make sure you try it with a browser that supports Flash. Chrome does not.
For the browser issue, im going to backup the Browser.apk from my Nexus and install it on my Nexus 7. Im going to mainly use chrome but when i hit a flash page, im going to get the app "Flashify" check it out, maybe you'll go my path as well
Android Market has other browsers too. Nexus stock browser may not be the best.
I had to download Dolphin HD on my Galaxy Nexus for some flash videos to work correctly (they'd be cut off in the stock browser for some reason). I'm guessing Dolphin for Pad would be the best replacement on the Nexus 7.
I'm glad it still appears to work for now but future updates to Jellybean and beyond are definitely a concern. :-(
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Other than *video* the tools to do html5 are still in the dark ages vs flash.
neok44 said:
the ipad sells great and the web hasn't adopted HTML5 yet
And there is an AIV apk, ripped from the kindle fire, easy find through google. But it has issues on any resolution other than the stock fire one.
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FranksRedHot said:
I have a Nexus 7 from I/O and unfortunately neither the AIV app or Flash in the browser work (although it installs just fine from the market). It was the first thing I tried after they gave it to us since I own some stuff on AIV and have a Prime account. Bummer, hopefully Amazon gets on top of it and supports HTML5.
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As others have commented, Jelly Bean Chrome doesn't support Flash but Jelly Bean does support other browsers such as Dolphin and Flash.
So it begs the question, is the AIV app completely self contained or does it rely on any external apps such as a browser or Flash?
If AIV is self contained, it looks like we Prime subscribers may not be able to use it on the NExus 7, but if AIV relies on an external browser and you only had Chrome installed, it may worth loading Dolphin and trying again.
You may also want to try the Dolphin & Flash combination. I've read reports that this combo works on Jelly Bean installed on devices other than the Nexus 7.
Another thing to keep in mind is that the new KF is rumored to have the same resolution as the N7.
This should make the APK work well on the N7...as resolution differences was the major issue with the current APK working well with other devices.
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Flash works with Firefox and Dolphin on Jelly Bean/4.1/Nexus 7. It also should work with ICS Browser+.
and as @stumblebum said, if the new Kindle Fire is true and comes out with the same resolution, and i would assume based on 4.0/4.1 there is a good chance that the app should be ported over without much issue.
but until then now, Flash+Firefox/Dolphin works perfectly on Jelly Bean.
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Flash works with Firefox and Dolphin on Jelly Bean/4.1/Nexus 7. It also should work with ICS Browser+.
and as @stumblebum said, if the new Kindle Fire is true and comes out with the same resolution, and i would assume based on 4.0/4.1 there is a good chance that the app should be ported over without much issue.
but until then now, Flash+Firefox/Dolphin works perfectly on Jelly Bean.
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Now that I've finally received my Nexus 7, I installed Dolphin HD and Flash 11 but can't play any Flash in the Dolphin browser. I also tried installing the Amazon Instant Video App but no luck there either.
I was excited to get the latest update to dolphin because it said it fixed full screen video playback issues. Apparently the update also disabled its ability to use flash with Jelly Bean. I just sideloaded firefox and can play the amazon videos now.
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Now that I've finally received my Nexus 7, I installed Dolphin HD and Flash 11 but can't play any Flash in the Dolphin browser. I also tried installing the Amazon Instant Video App but no luck there either.
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So is there a way to watch Amazon videos with Dolphin browser and jelly bean? If you need some other app, where do youget it?

Nexus Devices on 4.1+ To Loose Flash?

Sounds like Flash on Android is finally coming to an end. From Jelly Bean onwards Flash will no longer be available to download from the Play Store unless it's pre installed on a certified device.
So does that discount Nexus devices then?
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/06/flash-player-and-android-update.html
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Sounds like Flash on Android is finally coming to an end. From Jelly Bean onwards Flash will no longer be available to download from the Play Store unless it's pre installed on a certified device.
So does that discount Nexus devices then?
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/06/flash-player-and-android-update.html
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I never had flash installed on my phone, so Im ok with this
cpm said:
Sounds like Flash on Android is finally coming to an end. From Jelly Bean onwards Flash will no longer be available to download from the Play Store unless it's pre installed on a certified device.
So does that discount Nexus devices then?
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/06/flash-player-and-android-update.html
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HTML5 will replace Flash
Yes true, but it remains to be seen how fast media streaming websites adopt html 5 and dispense with flash.
For instance, I can currently watch tv programs from our national tv station as I have Flash installed.
However look at the situation if I upgrade my phone and no longer have flash. Now what? It's one thing to say the browser can pay html 5 . But that's only going to be a realistic alternative when Flash is replaced by the media companies. It's that type of scenario in thinking of.
What's the situation like in the US and elsewhere?
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Adobe should rather provide a kind of plugin which can abstract the flash and provide the html5 interface working for existing flash based web pages.
There has to be a solution for back word compatibility. It will be sad if we cant play so many good websites which are developed on flash.
I hope Google and Adobe can provide good solution for back word compatibly
I wont miss it. I've had it installed but the browser is always set to load plugins on demand but I newer use it.
Hopefully html5 will replace it fully soon. It needs to deliver better performance.
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The developers of Adobe Flash have stated that they will no longer support devices 4.1+. Yes, HTML5 is supposed to replace flash. Hopefully it works out better with performance and load speed. One is to only hope.
Steve Jobs was correct, Flash was not made for touchscreen devices
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Steve Jobs was correct, Flash was not made for touchscreen devices
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No, more precisely, we have new technology to do what flash does, so it will be replaced and it is being replaced.
Flash can be tune to work with a touchscreen but since it going be replaced soon, putting on more effort to it is kind of pointless. Seeing how buggy it runs on Linux, I don't think I would miss it at all. I look forward to the day when I no longer needs it.
Currently there is a work around for no flash on 4.1. All I did was install the Firefox beta and then flash. It works but is kind of buggy. I just had a few websites I had to have flash for.
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cpm said:
Sounds like Flash on Android is finally coming to an end. From Jelly Bean onwards Flash will no longer be available to download from the Play Store unless it's pre installed on a certified device.
So does that discount Nexus devices then?
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Just back up your flash app, e.g., using TitaniumBackup, and restore it once you are running Jelly Bean.
It likely will continue to work that way.
You just won't be able to do a fresh install from the market.

[Q] flash player on kitkat 4.4

have tried dolphin xscope and firefox cannot get flash to work. any ideas
stevethewelshman said:
have tried dolphin xscope and firefox cannot get flash to work. any ideas
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I didn't think Dolphin ever worked post-Jellybean, but Firefox for sure did under 4.3. Have you checked to make sure that plug-ins are enabled (and of course have Flash sideloaded)?
It doesn't work. 4.4 breaks flash player for some reason. Hence, that's why I went back to 4.3 (or at least tried and then my N7 got fubar'd for some reason and I've done this numerous times, so it couldn't be due to pilot error).
Hopefully, Firefox will either get updated to work, or if it's because the Flash Player doesn't work anymore with 4.4, then I'll be sticking with 4.3, maybe even going back to 4.1.2 as 4.3 seems to get choppy.
From what I've been reading it seems that the 4.4 Web engine is chromium based now so the only way to get flash working is through server side browsers such as Puffin. I had to go back to a 4.3 ROM for my NBA games and other streams.
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From what I've been reading it seems that the 4.4 Web engine is chromium based now so the only way to get flash working is through server side browsers such as Puffin. I had to go back to a 4.3 ROM for my NBA games and other streams.
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Well that sucks, especially since Puffin is choppy with the flash videos. I guess kit kat is no more for me on my Nexus (once I get my RMA back).
Ugh, that sucks. Wait till people try watching Amazon Instant Video. :-/ OTOH hopefully this will create enough complaints that they'll finally release an app.
I've tried Puffin on iPad and the video quality didn't remotely compare. Smooth framerate is kinda important when watching figure skating.
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Ugh, that sucks. Wait till people try watching Amazon Instant Video. :-/ OTOH hopefully this will create enough complaints that they'll finally release an app.
I've tried Puffin on iPad and the video quality didn't remotely compare. Smooth framerate is kinda important when watching figure skating.
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Amazon Instant Video is EXACTLY why I need to go back to 4.3 or prior. Puffin is just not acceptable for this. It's a nice try, but it's just too choppy and unwatchable.
What REALLY needs to happen is Amazon needs to get off of their duff, get away from flash and release an HTML5 version of their viewer AND release it for Android devices, not just their Kindle, the red-headed-step-child of Android devices.
Just a footnote.... Dolphin has ran flash perfectly up to 4.2.2 anyway.
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Also.... This flash stuff and other things are starting to make me think Android is trying to lean towards the apple way of doing things. Html5? Bullplop ..flash still dominates the Internet. Not just Android, but the phone makers too. Making unlockable boot loaders and what not.
Scary!
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Just a footnote.... Dolphin has ran flash perfectly up to 4.2.2 anyway.
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Also.... This flash stuff and other things are starting to make me think Android is trying to lean towards the apple way of doing things. Html5? Bullplop ..flash still dominates the Internet. Not just Android, but the phone makers too. Making unlockable boot loaders and what not.
Scary!
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Actually, Adobe is the one that dropped Flash from Android. They quit developing for it about a year ago.
Html5 IS supposed to be the standardized way of doing multimedia so that it is standard across all browsers, mobile, desktop, etc. When it eventually gets to that point, is anybody's guess.
So, it's not Android/Google forcing people off of Flash, it was Adobe as they refused to develop for it anymore. They apparently couldn't get it to work reliably and efficiently, although it seemed to be doing fine to me. My guess is they finally realized that Flash apparently was not built well for mobile applications and they didn't feel like putting much more effort into it. Sounds like a case of giving up if you ask me.
Oh well, hopefully HTML5 will work better. I'd like to know how Google does it with their Google Play movies, as well as how the VuDu app streams the videos. They seem to do it just fine. Not sure why Amazon doesn't do it that way as well.
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Actually, Adobe is the one that dropped Flash from Android. They quit developing for it about a year ago.
Html5 IS supposed to be the standardized way of doing multimedia so that it is standard across all browsers, mobile, desktop, etc. When it eventually gets to that point, is anybody's guess.
So, it's not Android/Google forcing people off of Flash, it was Adobe as they refused to develop for it anymore. They apparently couldn't get it to work reliably and efficiently, although it seemed to be doing fine to me. My guess is they finally realized that Flash apparently was not built well for mobile applications and they didn't feel like putting much more effort into it. Sounds like a case of giving up if you ask me.
Oh well, hopefully HTML5 will work better. I'd like to know how Google does it with their Google Play movies, as well as how the VuDu app streams the videos. They seem to do it just fine. Not sure why Amazon doesn't do it that way as well.
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Yep. Adobe have not certified any version of Adobe Flash Player to run correctly on any version of Android after Ice Cream Sandwich.
cf. this blog post from Adobe, circa 2012...
"There will be no certified implementations of Flash Player for Android 4.1."
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/06/flash-player-and-android-update.html.
The fact that Adobe Flash Player 'sort-of' runs OK on some versions of (pre v4.3) Jellybean, is more of an issue of fortuitous serendipity, than it is an issue if intelligent directed design.
Adobe Flash Player is essentially finished on the Android platform... I just hope that the much vaunted HTML5 standard very quickly takes it's place.
Rgrds,
Ged.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548001
Flash working on my Nexus 7, running stock 4.4 KRT16S. Pity it is with Dolphin browser but its something.
What GedBlake said.
AFAIK, Flash is broken from 4.3 onwards in WebView-based browsers. Look up issue 58608 in the AOSP Issue Tracker. Note this comment:
"Adobe stopped supporting the Flash plugin on Android quite a while ago. We continued to try and keep the old plugin working for a while, but as of 4.3 plugin support has been deprecated and is no longer supported."
There's a bigger issue looming in KitKat, with Google purposely crippling WebView to force people to Chrome (see issue 62293). KitKat hasn't gotten enough pick up yet for people to notice. I suspect that eventually someone will have to bite the bullet, dump WebView, and build a more recent version of the WebKit library into their browser to work around this.
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Xcandescent said:
What GedBlake said.
AFAIK, Flash is broken from 4.3 onwards in WebView-based browsers. Look up issue 58608 in the AOSP Issue Tracker. Note this comment:
"Adobe stopped supporting the Flash plugin on Android quite a while ago. We continued to try and keep the old plugin working for a while, but as of 4.3 plugin support has been deprecated and is no longer supported."
There's a bigger issue looming in KitKat, with Google purposely crippling WebView to force people to Chrome (see issue 62293). KitKat hasn't gotten enough pick up yet for people to notice. I suspect that eventually someone will have to bite the bullet, dump WebView, and build a more recent version of the WebKit library into their browser to work around this.
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I don't confess to understand technically all you wrote but generally I have found my need for Flash has diminished nicely as getting Flash hacks have been getting more challenging. I was on 4.2.2 for ages due many issues including this Flash issue, I moved to 4.4 found broke flash so went down to 4.3 to find I preferred 4.4 and willing to forego flash. So it's a nice bonus to get flash back with this Dolphin hack as it gives that bit more time for flash death.
Fine, let me translate.
As GedBlake posted, Adobe quit supporting Flash past Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0). They did do security updates for a while, but only for 4.0, and I believe they've stopped doing those as well; to quote:
"On September 10 2013, Adobe released Flash Player 11.1.111.73 for Android 2.x and 3.x and 11.1.115.81 for Android 4.0.x in keeping with statements made in Adobe's publicly available Flash Roadmap. This release is the final update release of Flash Player for the Android operating system."
Adobe's statements tend to be obtuse and full of weasel words, but I think that one's pretty clear: They're done with patching Flash on Android.
A lot of people have confused these security updates as being continued support for new ROM versions, which is wrong. As it turns out, that confusion is actually Google's fault. To wit:
"Adobe stopped supporting the Flash plugin on Android quite a while ago. We continued to try and keep the old plugin working for a while, but as of 4.3 plugin support has been deprecated and is no longer supported."
Translation: Google, without telling anyone, attempted to semi-officially keep Flash working. Their unofficial, under the radar support enabled people to run Flash on versions it shouldn't have worked on, which led to heaps of confusion about whether or not it was supported. That has ended. As of 4.3, Google has officially quit.
Again, none of this should've mattered, since Adobe quit at 4.0, and Flash is Adobe's product. Google was under no obligation to even try to support it (Flash is not their product), but they did anyway, which confused everyone. That is no longer the case.
As of 4.3, if Flash works, it's only through unofficial hacks. It is likely that said hacks would use old versions of Flash Player, which are no longer being patched. Running any of them is a security risk. Buyer beware.
-XCN-
Xcandescent said:
Fine, let me translate. .... <snip>
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no I was on about your earlier technical explanation. Your reply now is about finger-pointing between Adobe and Google.
Personally, these hacks are perfectly ok, they allow limited situations where Flash in browser is better/essential than new native apps. The need for Flash is diminishing. When I got my first android device (N7 2012 in August 2012) "out the box" Flash didn't work but did with Firefox in desktop mode and applying the last Android supported Flash APKs. At the time, apps I used like Hulu Plus were buggy, now much more stable, the BBC Iplayer apps was very limited and cumbersome, now it is excellent. So my need to use Flash has dropped dramatically in the last 16 months.
I use Splashtop to a WoL Windows 7 old computer plugged into my home router for these niggling areas which don't quite work on Android. For me I also got issues like with Lotus Notes, on Android a few issues are really painful, I manage those via Splashtop but otherwise use local native apps.
This workaround will work basically "forever" as long Flash is supported on Windows 7. Pick your imperfect hack basically. I am glad I got a bit more time with local Flash via Dolphin, just in case, to complement remote desktop, and the improving non-Flash alternatives.
http://youtu.be/NIkaixDp0O0
iBolski said:
It doesn't work. 4.4 breaks flash player for some reason. Hence, that's why I went back to 4.3 (or at least tried and then my N7 got fubar'd for some reason and I've done this numerous times, so it couldn't be due to pilot error).
Hopefully, Firefox will either get updated to work, or if it's because the Flash Player doesn't work anymore with 4.4, then I'll be sticking with 4.3, maybe even going back to 4.1.2 as 4.3 seems to get choppy.
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Adobe does not support android 4.4 kitkat to have adobe flash player as a native system feature but flash can be installed manually on android 4.4 kitkat.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I certainly can't be bothered "trying"to get flash working on 4.3 or 4.4....Then it still be unstable.
My n7 will die with 4.2.2 on it.
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