[Q] My concern about the Nexus 7 - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

First, let me say I am in full support of google on this. Seen some reviews on cnet and engadget that look very promising. My concern (however silly) is the dumbed down UI similar to a kindle fire layout. This is one of the reasons I couldn't stand the fire. We have a fully beautiful version of jellybean running, let's use it! Do you think an option to customize that layout will be available? I understand the marketing aspect of making it simplified for those scared of tablet usage. However, I want to make sure I get the full usage out of 4.1 before I committ.

short answer yes
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its a nexus so you can do whatever you want, t he standard 10 inch tablet Ui is still persent as confirmed in the sdk, so a simple build prop tweak to lower the dpi should enable it. Keep in mind that google does lots of user studies and have found that the phone Ui works better on 7 inch devices.

It's a Nexus device, not some third party device locked down. Nexus means open. It will take you 5 seconds to unlock this device and then not much longer to throw a custom recovery and rom on if you please. Jelly Bean will be completely open and you will be able to install any launchers that support ICS and JB to customize the look of your device.

I plan on knocking down the DPI on mine asap. I run my GNote at 170 DPI for ICS tablet mode and I find it more usable than the phone UI in day to day use.
Being a Nexus I have no doubt the dev community will be tearing up the innards in short order.
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The review on the verge made me purchase it, you should read it.
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bhillegass said:
My concern (however silly) is the dumbed down UI similar to a kindle fire layout.
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Where exactly did you read that the UI was dumbed down at all? It's a full version of 4.1. Please don't compare a Nexus device to anything from Amazon or even HTC...while the backbone of the UI is the same the features are not.
Nexus devices are pure google experience devices that are not dumbed down.

The tablet did not look dumbed down to me? If it's the Play store magazines thing you were concerned about then I am pretty sure that's a widget on the home screen.

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How do the apps run on the N7?

I'm about to buy the tablet myself in a few days but everywhere and anywhere everyone and anyone says that Android doesn't have nearly as many tablet-optimised apps as the iPad. Do the apps run fine or not? I mean do they look good and is it easy to use them or not? Because for the iPad I know there's a separate category so there'll be apps for that.
So could someone confirm if the apps on this tablet run fine or not?
Thanks
They run crappy.
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Ok just my experience, on android many more apps are tablet optimized.
When I was using an ipad it seemed they were all small or had the option to 2x it making it blurry and horrid.
I guess though the Google play store just doesn't show you apps it they're not compatible though, which is fine because for an app that isn't compatible with tabs there are 10 others that are.
And poster above.. I have no words
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My friend there are more apps in the play Store that you could ever use or even fit into the N7. With all the customizations you can make from OCing to roms the sky is the limit concerning the tablet. All the options that android offers will always keep apple in the rear view mirror.
Yes the apps are easy to access, start and run quickly.
Concerning apps and compatibility always use a browser to see all the apps and look at the comments to see if there are any made by N7 owners. Since I have modified the dpi on mine most apps come up as not available and that is when I check the comments. If it's something I want to buy I'll switch my dpi back to stock. It's a pain but I'm never giving up true tablet ui.
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In my exp i've had by means of trade through best buy almost all of the most recent tabs. in order generic android tab eclair 1, archos 101, ipad, ipad 2, xoom acer a500, playbook, lenovo k1, hp touchpad, playbook again, xoom again, achos 80 g9, acer 501, and nexus 7. Android is my favorite. I also like web os and bb os. ios has better game selection hands down. Android has better free apps hands down bb web had no apps. so all depends on what you want it for
Well with all the quad-core machines coming out these days I'm quite sure there'll be loads of great games for Android too. The third post is interesting. So the apps don't seem like they're just multiplied in size. That's good to know. As long as they look natural I'm happy because the Appstore with all it's apps is horrible [my sister got an iPhone 4S the other day and I kept looking for apps and I wasn't THAT impressed. In fact the Play Store is MUCH better.]
I'm going with the Nexus and I'm sure I'll be a happy customer just like 95% of people who bought the thing. [the 5% are the people who're experiencing problems but even they were happy with their device.]
Thanks for the feedback! Appreciate it very much

How does the Fire HD compare to the Nexus 7 AFTER ROOTING AND CHANGING THE LAUNCHER

How does the operation of the device compare to the Nexus 7 after you have rooted it and changed the launcher?
Curious to those that have done.
I completely changed the look and feel of the Kindle Fire HD. It is a better looking and longer battery lasting tablet than the tablets being compared to it. The HD picture is vibrant and the colors are warm. With the new launcher, it feels like a bigger version of my Galaxy S III without the Phone and Messaging. I could NOT be happier that I grabbed this KFHD, rather than settling for the Nexus7.
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I completely changed the look and feel of the Kindle Fire HD. It is a better looking and longer battery lasting tablet than the tablets being compared to it. The HD picture is vibrant and the colors are warm. With the new launcher, it feels like a bigger version of my Galaxy S III without the Phone and Messaging. I could NOT be happier that I grabbed this KFHD, rather than settling for the Nexus7.
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Exactly the type of information I was looking for. Thank you! :good: :laugh: :highfive:
Rooted KFHD with alternative launcher is still nothing compared to a stock nexus 7, if you want fully functional google services. Amazon took out code that is in a full fledged android device. Such as if you side load google talk, you can't get video and voice. There is no voice search functions because Amazon took out components even though the possibility is there. Its a pain if you want another keyboard or even to customize your interface. Google play can be side loaded but not everything will recognize the KFHD.
It honestly depends on what you want. If you have Amazon prime and love entertainment, the KFHD is a great device. If you want an all rounded tablet, then you want the N7. In my honest opinion, I loved the KFHD hardware but the software killed the device for me. I wasn't going to wait and hope one day the bootloader will be cracked and custom roms made. I did not like the feeling of having a half gimped device.
I returned the KFHD and kept the N7.
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Rooted KFHD with alternative launcher is still nothing compared to a stock nexus 7, if you want fully functional google services. Amazon took out code that is in a full fledged android device. Such as if you side load google talk, you can't get video and voice. There is no voice search functions because Amazon took out components even though the possibility is there. Its a pain if you want another keyboard or even to customize your interface. Google play can be side loaded but not everything will recognize the KFHD.
It honestly depends on what you want. If you have Amazon prime and love entertainment, the KFHD is a great device. If you want an all rounded tablet, then you want the N7. In my honest opinion, I loved the KFHD hardware but the software killed the device for me. I wasn't going to wait and hope one day the bootloader will be cracked and custom roms made. I did not like the feeling of having a half gimped device.
I returned the KFHD and kept the N7.
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That is a very insightful response haha. Really. I figured as much but its cool to know that these things are true - instead of wondering what the hell is wrong with the apps. I will use my KFHD with what I've got for now and Ill just wait for that day that we can crack these bootloaders and get custom roms. Praise allaaaaahhhhhh.
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I will use my KFHD with what I've got for now and Ill just wait for that day that we can crack these bootloaders and get custom roms.
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I'll kick myself the day that happens but right now I'm happy with my decision.
On a side note for the OP, If anything, you can purchase both devices, play test and return what you don't want. I felt bad doing that but it's still hard to find the N7 let alone having it on display. I thought I would be happy with the KFHD when I pre-ordered and then after using it, I started to have more and more doubts after digging around and playing with it.
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I spent about 2 weeks debating this same question. finally managed to get my hands on both devices and it really comes down to what you plan on using it for. For multimedia the KF HD was the clear winner for me and as thats what most my use is going to be. In terms of options the nexus 7 seems to have more currently.
What settled it for me was the screen was nicer, the sound was much better and overall the KFHD is able to meet my needs.
I forgot to mention that I found the KFHD battery to be very finicky. It didn't like to have the wifi location services on all the time. It drained my batter like no tomorrow. Also I had to be careful on what I installed. Even something as a pandora widget (that never has been used) will keep the device from deep sleep. I got power issues right off the bat.
Also if you use anything to alter the hidden battery settings, such as using spare parts to keep wifi on all the time (even though it should be unless you turn wifi off), there is no way to set it back to normal without a reset.
I had battery problems right away with the KFHD but I noticed that my N7 out of the box was doing pretty good. I really had to dig around and babysit everything but once I figured out my issues, battery life on standby was much better, but these are issues that we shouldn't have to worry about from the get go.
ADW and Go launcher did not seem to cause me any battery issues, so they should be safe to use.
I did not root, just sideloaded adw launcher ex to the kfhd.
Longer story shorter, I use the kfhd more than the Nexus 7 which I also own.
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I did not root, just sideloaded adw launcher ex to the kfhd.
Longer story shorter, I use the kfhd more than the Nexus 7 which I also own.
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May try this as I'm not sure I want to fool with rooting the KFHD.
I can't decide which one I like better, I haven't been able to go hands on with the Fire HD yet though. I love my transformer Infinity, and I loved the TF101 I had before it, my friend has the nexus 7, and from what I've played with it I like it a lot. Asus is a great company and bar none has the best update record of any manufacturer. If you're interested in a futureproof google device, get the nexus, if you want a 7" iPad's usability and family features that the Fire HD offers, go that route.
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Rooted KFHD with alternative launcher is still nothing compared to a stock nexus 7, if you want fully functional google services. Amazon took out code that is in a full fledged android device. Such as if you side load google talk, you can't get video and voice. There is no voice search functions because Amazon took out components even though the possibility is there. Its a pain if you want another keyboard or even to customize your interface. Google play can be side loaded but not everything will recognize the KFHD.
It honestly depends on what you want. If you have Amazon prime and love entertainment, the KFHD is a great device. If you want an all rounded tablet, then you want the N7. In my honest opinion, I loved the KFHD hardware but the software killed the device for me. I wasn't going to wait and hope one day the bootloader will be cracked and custom roms made. I did not like the feeling of having a half gimped device.
I returned the KFHD and kept the N7.
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I agree, I'm in love with my N7 now because of the Google Now integration and amazing voice command/search response among many other elements.
Also, the GPU in the N7 is really something special. Couple that with the Tegra 3 and it's a reassuring element of knowing it will be a very long time before this tablet is out of date. Feels good having something that will continue to be the cream of the crop (in the $200 price range) for a very very long time.
If your someone that likes the newest software, the nexus devices will see it first being pure google devices. Right now I'm enjoying my jelly bean and can't wait to see what 4.2 will hold, while Amazon will be.. Amazon.

Lack of app's,so still getting nexus 10?

Hey there guys
The nexus 10 reviews are finally out.
What do all review's negative have in common? No apps...
So this is worrying me a lot
Yes gameloft is making nexus 10 games so, will i get more nexus 10 apps in future? should i get this tablet?
Well the new playstore updates supports the xxhdp display solo yeah all the apps work there over 700000 apps
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I'm not worried about the app selection, The apps that i uses are made by big companies and I am sure they will be updated quickly. Once a group of devs gets a hand on a tablet or two thing will fly. They will purchase them the same time that we do. I don't have a ton of apps on my android devices, just a mix of some for work and play. A list other than Google products that I would put on my tablet, are made by Rovio, Slacker, Adobe, Evernote, XDA!, and a few website apps. The only real app I am concerned about would be apps for my local news and weather stations. If i was a tablet gamer I might be a bit concerned at first, but for me If I can surf the web at high speeds, and have music and movies playing for entertainment on long road trips with battery life to spare I am happy. This hardware is new and cutting edge, but will be a new standard for other manufactures to compete with, so more apps will be out there in time.
I'm still getting the nexus 10
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Hey there guys
The nexus 10 reviews are finally out.
What do all review's negative have in common? No apps...
So this is worrying me a lot
Yes gameloft is making nexus 10 games so, will i get more nexus 10 apps in future? should i get this tablet?
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It's not no apps.only some apps which have low graphics won't work well.... for the time being
No problem for me. My main usage is watching videos and reading comics. Also I believe app developper will provide tablet optimized nice apps for N10 and N7.
I'm not so worried about App selection as I am usability. I recently bought the Transformer Prime TF700t, it's a nice tablet with monster specs and was the only decently designed 1080p android tablet, however Windows 8 is now out (I' not referring to RT, not really interested in the RT version because of lack of apps).
There are 3 major choices you should consider when looking at tablets this holiday:
1: Nexus 10
2: iPad 4
3: Windows 8 PRO
App selection is obviously the best on the new iPad, 2nd going to android and lastly going to Windows, but Windows 8 PRO DOES run all of the older windows 7 apps. SO if you want to run ANYTHING on your tablet (almost anything you use as a windows user), for power users that's a definite win.
So that's why I'm really really considering windows 8. As I type this I'm realizing more and more that windows 8 still won't have a lot of tablet-optimized apps making most of the tablet experience kind of a fail, and only using the windows mode would really be useful (for me), I'm talking myself into the Nexus 10 becau 2560X1600 SOUNDS AMAZING!:laugh:
Best not to compare usability between TF700 and the N10. Aside from the poor app selection being the same, this is a different beast. Also, the way Holo works, I think with Android phones leading the front we ought to see apps that at the very least don't look crap on the tablet.
I'm not worried about the app situation. As others have said in different threads, Android's scalability really changes things so it isn't the same issue that it was on the Mac when they had only a few tablet apps. Second, now with the N7 and N10 I expect we'll see a lot more apps, particularly the good ones, designed with these tablets in mind.
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I'm a developer, I'm getting a Nexus 10. That has to be good for everyone else, I'm sure other devs will be doing the same.
N10 will be a hit. Developers will pump out apps. There is a lot of cash to be made if this becomes the industry standard.
The market really dictates if apps are made for Android or not. When tablets first came out it was only iPad, therefore, all tablet apps were made for iPad. As Android tablets got more accepted and are now a major presence in the tablet world, market demand dictates that if you want your app to be widely used, you will make it tablet compatible for iOS and Android. What is really difficult for developers is the huge fragmentation in Android both phones and tablets. If you make an app for iPad, you only have to make it for the 7 and 10, both running the same OS. If you want to make an app for Android you have to make it for N number of tables made by N number of manufactures, many of which are running different OS versions.
There are already many great tablet enabled apps for Android tablets, over the last 6 months I have actually seen developers come out with tablet updates for their apps. Don't worry, if you buy an N10, you won't have issues getting use out of it.
Of curse you should get the Nexus 10!! The apps gonna come out eventually don't worrie.
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I'm a developer, I'm getting a Nexus 10. That has to be good for everyone else, I'm sure other devs will be doing the same.
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Didn't some devs get an N4 and N10 as a gift from Google when it was announced, too?
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Multi-window?

10 inch is great for multi-window multitasking especially considering the lack of tablet optimized Android apps. But is it available on the Nexus 10 out of box considering Samsung's own Note 10.1 does split-screen, if not can it be upgraded with no root or in any other way?
Could be a dealbreaker. The 2,56k Nexus 10 is perfect for multitasking and lacking such awesomeness would be disappointing.
Something like Galaxy Note? It would be great but no mention of it in the reviews.
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It's unlikely. The thing with nexus devices is that you need to forget who manufactured it.
Unless the standard android build tree implements a multi windows feature, no nexus device will have it.
It's a trade off, because devices like my S3 and the Note etc come with fantastic Samsung features like the notes app, multi window, smart stay, additional code licences and such, but you sacrifice update frequency.
The point here is that this device gets pure, unadulterated, Android, and all the features (or lack thereof) that comes with it.
Either way, ill be buying one, and waiting for ParanoidAndroid to come along so I can get rid of the crappy Phablet UI, which I personally think is a mistake on a device like this.
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That's too bad. The crowd clearly wants multitasking and the 10" screen and high resolution is fitting for split screen, a big hit and miss by Google. Or maybe Samsung wants to keep it in house? Disappointing either way, splitting the screen into 4:3 for Chrome and 1:3 for Twitter/chat/music/calculator/notepad etc. would give enough pixels for both. To not have that option on most tablets is kinda shocking. What else do you wish to use the big screen for if not comfort?
I'm on GB on my phone. Is there a simple way to switch between apps on JB?
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That's too bad. The crowd clearly wants multitasking and the 10" screen and high resolution is fitting for split screen, a big hit and miss by Google. Or maybe Samsung wants to keep it in house? Disappointing either way, splitting the screen into 4:3 for Chrome and 1:3 for Twitter/chat/music/calculator/notepad etc. would give enough pixels for both. To not have that option on most tablets is kinda shocking. What else do you wish to use the big screen for if not comfort?
I'm on GB on my phone. Is there a simple way to switch between apps on JB?
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Yeh, the problem, is that Samsung's multi-window feature is just that, Samsung's. They paid and spent the time to develop it in house, it's their own functionality, it cost them time and effort and is a selling point for their own devices such as the Galaxy Note 2.
As for JB, there is the "recent" menu, which is usually surfaced as an on screen button on some devices, or a press and hold of home on others, for switching apps. It's really no different to that of GB, except that it gives thumbnails of the apps instead of just icons.
Samsung cheated their way to multi-screen view... only one app is in the foreground, so it's not really multi-tasking. They did a serious hack job of the android os in order to make it happen. If you want it done right, wait for Google to do it.
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I want multiview on GSIII
maybe it would be possible to run an app at qhd resolution or so as a widget on your home screen. you could put 2 or 3 on the 10 inch screen and just use them all simultaneously. anyone have any idea?
also, i found this on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOqBAfMwCAc
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Yeh, the problem, is that Samsung's multi-window feature is just that, Samsung's. They paid and spent the time to develop it in house, it's their own functionality, it cost them time and effort and is a selling point for their own devices such as the Galaxy Note 2.
As for JB, there is the "recent" menu, which is usually surfaced as an on screen button on some devices, or a press and hold of home on others, for switching apps. It's really no different to that of GB, except that it gives thumbnails of the apps instead of just icons.
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Yeah, but this is a Samsung tab, and as much as it runs "pure Android", they could've easily throw multi-view in and sell it with that feature, it's pretty evident THIS is the device to challenge the iPad, not the Note 10.1.
It also doesn't take a genius at Google to develop split-screen tasking, don't think it requires too many resources either. HW's ready, SW's ready, we are ready. Where's split screen multitasking on the 10" tablets?
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Yeah, but this is a Samsung tab, and as much as it runs "pure Android", they could've easily throw multi-view in and sell it with that feature, it's pretty evident THIS is the device to challenge the iPad, not the Note 10.1.
It also doesn't take a genius at Google to develop split-screen tasking, don't think it requires too many resources either. HW's ready, SW's ready, we are ready. Where's split screen multitasking on the 10" tablets?
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I will repeat, Samsung hacked up the os...
Granted, there's no excuse for Google not being able to implement it if Samsung could
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If not multi-window... what apps have big tab widgets to split the screen that way?
Mobo player let's you multi screen, when watching a video you can hit the home button and it will bring you to the desktop but have the video playing in a resizeable box... Was actually really nice ,made me want it on all the apps :'(
Sadly, I don't think Google wants multi window functionality in Android. In general, they seem fine with Android for tablets just being a dumb device for media consumption. I think the tablet UI change is an example of Google dumbing down the UI by wasting screen real estate, etc.
Additionally, A developer from Google threatened CyanogenMod when they showed interest in using and improving a 3rd party's implementation of multi window for ICS. Google is worried that supporting multi window will make it harder on app developers because there would be even more size and layout variations that developers would need to test and support.
I personally think it is very important for Google to support this. Windows 8 tablets already have support for multi window.
Back to my original point, a 7" fits Google's current direction of being mostly a dumb device for media consumption. However, 10" tablets needs to be something more than that to justify the price and lack of portability compared to a 7" tablet.
Damn, the new multi-view looks better than ever!
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Damn, the new multi-view looks better than ever!
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Now thats som good stuff
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It's unlikely. The thing with nexus devices is that you need to forget who manufactured it.
Unless the standard android build tree implements a multi windows feature, no nexus device will have it.
It's a trade off, because devices like my S3 and the Note etc come with fantastic Samsung features like the notes app, multi window, smart stay, additional code licences and such, but you sacrifice update frequency.
The point here is that this device gets pure, unadulterated, Android, and all the features (or lack thereof) that comes with it.
Either way, ill be buying one, and waiting for ParanoidAndroid to come along so I can get rid of the crappy Phablet UI, which I personally think is a mistake on a device like this.
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While I agree i dont like the UI on a nexus 7. For example isnt the native apps on a n7 single pane, like gmail on a phone?
On the nexus 10, gmail, talk, email, and the like are all 2 pane applications. My only complaint about the UI on the N10 is that the home back and multitask buttons allways stay in the middle of the screen. i think they should be to one side or the other for easier access with your thumb.
Also i would love to have multi window support on my n10 which is how i came opon this thread, but i will wait for google to implement it. while the different versions of android (touchwiz motoblur etc.) have come a long way none of them are as smooth or operate as clean as stock android. When and if google creates multi window support it will work flawlessly.
This is standard on the note 2 now right?
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This is standard on the note 2 now right?
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I have the att note 2 and I can watch a movie or video in a window while texting or whatever. You can move the video around on the screen too. Had it on my international i9300 too.
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It´s open source now. Why no one implement this in his rom for n10 ?
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Nexus 9 Alternatives - Your Opinion Matters!

Hi everyone.
I'm very excited for getting a Nexus 9 this year, at this could be my first 4:3 Android device, and I'm generallyinterested in how this device would get incorporated into my everyday life.
However I'm kinda in a struggle to justify the 550$ for the 32GB LTE version (well, that's probably a common thing now) AND considering I'm planning to get the LTE version - I'm kinda worried that this model may not be the quickest one to receive the updates, as is seen with the N7 LTE, which by the way STILL hasn't gotten a 5.0 official ROM, and there's already 5.0.1 out, plus the fact that T-Mobile announced today that it's getting delayed, so basically I might not even be lucky enough to get one before Christmas (as I live outside the US).
All of this has me thinking - are there really good alternatives to Nexus 9 today?
I know there are great tablets such as Tab Pro 10.1 and Tab Pro 12.2, as well as Xperia Tablet Z2 and I think Asus has one or two good 10-inchers out there - all of the listed have failry great specs, have KitKat on board, and pack LTE inside them.
But the Nexus has me in because of the pure AOSP I'n getting with it, along with guaranteed 2 years of updates ahead
So, if you can give - please give me a list of 9-10" tablets that apply to the following requirements:
- Priced about the same as N9 LTE
- Have a 32GB or an SD-card expansion option
- Have the latest version of Android
- Have LTE support
- Have a moderately good development community, at least so the device would have an AOSP build available (such as CyanogenMod, for example)
Thanks in advance!
You have basically described the nvidia Shield except for the screen being 8 inches instead of 9.
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I forgot to mention that I am currently rocking Nexus 10 and Nexus 7 LTE, and I am looking for a replacement of both of these tablets with one device, that's why I also looked at Nexus 9, and ideally the device should have a big display
Shield Tablet just doesn't cut it for me as the screen is too small + it's not really convenient for productivity usage such as Evernote
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I forgot to mention that I am currently rocking Nexus 10 and Nexus 7 LTE, and I am looking for a replacement of both of these tablets with one device, that's why I also looked at Nexus 9, and ideally the device should have a big display
Shield Tablet just doesn't cut it for me as the screen is too small + it's not really convenient for productivity usage such as Evernote
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If big display is primary concern get the Nexus 9, but make sure you get it from somewhere you can get a replacement easily.
Do note that WiFi version already have unimpressive battery life, wonder how much poorer LTE version will be.
I'd consider an iPad Mini Retina, they're cheap right now, or an iPad Air.
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You have basically described the nvidia Shield except for the screen being 8 inches instead of 9.
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The shield community still seems a bit early/immature. Not really much development going on.
LG G Tab 8.3 Google Play Edition
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LG G Tab 8.3 Google Play Edition
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How well did the SD 600 behave its a bit old SoC!!im also looking for a tablet....im pretty consern about the battery life..as a nexus user i don't want to look over and over again about my battery stats..
The SD 600 seems to play very nicely with CM12. I actually bought the locked (but hackable) v500 model and the Google Play Edition is the v510. Both models are good, but the v500 might have a little more international support.
http://www.androidauthority.com/rumor-htc-release-new-tablet-based-nexus-9-573555/
Here's an interesting future option.
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Imho, there isn't another tablet that will rival the n9 when all things are considered. I didn't want to cough up the money as I honestly feel that the n9 is overpriced because of its limited storage, mind you I have the 32gb version. 32gb is really low for a media consumption device so 16gb is simply unacceptable and should be done away with all together. I value my timely updates and I know Google will push out updates for at least the next 2 years, how much is that worth to you? There are only 2 companies I trust with updates, Apple and Google.
Fwiw, I was leaning towards an iPad mini 2 32gb as it cost much less and is a well built product but I don't like how constrictive iOS is, weird because I've loved every Mac I've owned. Apples to oranges I suppose, no pun intended.
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Would about the Galaxy Tab S ?
flyoffacliff said:
Would about the Galaxy Tab S ?
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Slow SoC and capacitive buttons are activated accidentally. Battery life is pretty low for everything except watching videos. Nice screen though.
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Great Info. Thanks
Go with a N9 WiFi-only
My 2 cents: what I've always done is have a WiFi-only tablet, because it's cheaper, and use tethering on my phone whenever I need to connect that tablet to the internet while on the move. Another advantage is that with a WiFi only tablet, your battery life will be much larger (granted, the fact you have to keep your phone in tethering mode drains a bit of battery on the phone, but it's tolerable). Right now I have a Nexus 7 WiFi only and a Nexus 5 LTE, and soon I'm thinking about upgrading to a Nexus 9 WiFi only. That way it won't be terribly expensive (the N9 WiFi 32GB is $479). Oh, and an extra advantage of a WiFi-only tablet: there is no carrier to control if you get or don't get Android system updates
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Slow SoC and capacitive buttons are activated accidentally. Battery life is pretty low for everything except watching videos. Nice screen though.
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Nexus capacitive buttons are activated more easily, especially when they're a millimeter or two away from the Plex console buttons.
Also, when lollipop lags they go down with the ship.
Also, they take extra effort to retrieve when in full screen mode.
Also, they always cut into screen real estate (e.g. Hangouts now has 4 total toolbars on its main window, counting buttons, notification shade, tabs, and user slide out menu and call tab shortcut). This isn't a huge deal in portrait mode but it can certainly become one in landscape. When you're trying to play a game or... See first point.
I think the best competitor is the iPad Mini.
They're both running allegedly laggy 64 bit dual core processors. Either way, seems about even.
They're both touted as top of the line by their respective ecosystem owning companies.
They have identical aspect ratios and screen resolutions.
They both underwent a significant visual overhaul.
The iPad will actually net you 64gb for $500, where Google makes only a 32gb version of the Nexus 9 for a relatively outrageous $480.
Apple has famous customer service and kiosks. Google might call you if they feel like it.
iOS has App Ops built in. It lets you control your privacy with things like location. Android has Google Play Services. It never stops checking your location.
Both let you turn off background data.
Both support external storage if it's inconveniently attached with a cable or something.
Both support third party keyboards.
Both have silly slider-button combination quick toggles. Android's has more options and iOS' only needs a single swipe with a single finger to appear.
Both have an app switching screen that now shows you very few apps* unless you start sliding around.
Neither let you access your apps' Settings pages from the notification bar* .
* these features were removed in Lollipop to make comparisons to iOS devices more fitting.
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Nexus capacitive buttons are activated more easily, especially when they're a millimeter or two away from the Plex console buttons.
Also, when lollipop lags they go down with the ship.
Also, they take extra effort to retrieve when in full screen mode.
Also, they always cut into screen real estate (e.g. Hangouts now has 4 total toolbars on its main window, counting buttons, notification shade, tabs, and user slide out menu and call tab shortcut). This isn't a huge deal in portrait mode but it can certainly become one in landscape. When you're trying to play a game or... See first point.
I think the best competitor is the iPad Mini.
They're both running allegedly laggy 64 bit dual core processors. Either way, seems about even.
They're both touted as top of the line by their respective ecosystem owning companies.
They have identical aspect ratios and screen resolutions.
They both underwent a significant visual overhaul.
The iPad will actually net you 64gb for $500, where Google makes only a 32gb version of the Nexus 9 for a relatively outrageous $480.
Apple has famous customer service and kiosks. Google might call you if they feel like it.
iOS has App Ops built in. It lets you control your privacy with things like location. Android has Google Play Services. It never stops checking your location.
Both let you turn off background data.
Both support external storage if it's inconveniently attached with a cable or something.
Both support third party keyboards.
Both have silly slider-button combination quick toggles. Android's has more options and iOS' only needs a single swipe with a single finger to appear.
Both have an app switching screen that now shows you very few apps* unless you start sliding around.
Neither let you access your apps' Settings pages from the notification bar* .
* these features were removed in Lollipop to make comparisons to iOS devices more fitting.
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One requires you to be locked to the ball and chain called iTunes. I'd rather stick a pencil in my eye then be choked to death by iTunes.
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One requires you to be locked to the ball and chain called iTunes. I'd rather stick a pencil in my eye then be choked to death by iTunes.
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Most of the Nexus is also locked down out of the box. I've found myself tethered to the Google Play Services app in ways that can only be described as unhealthy, even as yesterday that app needed a complete deletion to stop searching for my location via GPS. and
And I'm not a huge Google's fan to begin with. It'd be an interesting experiment to test ecosystem reliance.
As for $20 limited movie licenses on both ecosystems, I'm thrilled about neither, but in my experience each company is trying somewhat desperately to imitate the other despite still being very different. That alone I think makes looking at the iPad worth a moment.

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