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[INFO] Transformer VS IPAD2

Getting my Acer TF Tuesday night 500.00, yea I know 100 over but cant find it anywhere, but I am noticing all these issues is it not worth getting, because Im on the Fence about getting a IPAD 2, someone needs to convince me to get the Asus instead.
I sent my Iconia back to BB.
Thanks

I have an iPad 2, and once you get the transformer you will understand instantly why the transformer is better

seshmaru said:
I have an iPad 2, and once you get the transformer you will understand instantly why the transformer is better
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so I wont be disappointed with the T F
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lou0611 said:
so I wont be disappointed with the T F
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I am not, and I have both
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I am not, and I have both
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IM a big movie watcher and sling box. is the screen as nice as they say.
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iPad UI is slightly smoother than honeycomb (HC is still really nice though, haven't had choppiness or lag so far) but widgets will always win over plain icons on my iPad.
The software loaded on the E3T (myLibrary, myZine, myNet, @Vibe, Polaris Office) work really well and since I read a lot it's quite handy. The slight modification to the UI (custom home/back/recent tasks/menu) icons are an improvement and any other changes they've made have all been for the better.
Yes the iPad has more apps, but I haven't had that much need for that many apps since most things you'll do are already included and mostly work well.
The screen is on par with my iPad 2, and better resolution/dpi, besides reading on 16:10 in portrait is a lot nicer than 4:3, and a lot nicer for watching shows/movies opposed to 4:3.

seshmaru said:
iPad UI is slightly smoother than honeycomb (HC is still really nice though, haven't had choppiness or lag so far) but widgets will always win over plain icons on my iPad.
The software loaded on the E3T (myLibrary, myZine, myNet, @Vibe, Polaris Office) work really well and since I read a lot it's quite handy. The slight modification to the UI (custom home/back/recent tasks/menu) icons are an improvement and any other changes they've made have all been for the better.
Yes the iPad has more apps, but I haven't had that much need for that many apps since most things you'll do are already included and mostly work well.
The screen is on par with my iPad 2, and better resolution/dpi, besides reading on 16:10 in portrait is a lot nicer than 4:3, and a lot nicer for watching shows/movies opposed to 4:3.
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thanks for the quick review you convinced me.
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After having a discussion with an iFanboy the other night, the only excuse we could come up with for getting an iPad over the TF is if you already have all apple products for the integration. In short... get the Transformer.

A Naked Emo said:
After having a discussion with an iFanboy the other night, the only excuse we could come up with for getting an iPad over the TF is if you already have all apple products for the integration. In short... get the Transformer.
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i agree with this. Having extra cables and chargers is really nice. also if you already bought apps on itunes then you wouldnt have to pay for them again on android.

I ordered both iPad and Tf. Keeping tf. In time both honeycomb and apps will catch up. Very quickly.

Does iTunes run on Linux?
I rest my case.

Itunes will not run naively on linux. You might get the windows version running under wine or in an virtual machine.

I have a new policy. I do not buy a product that has no Linux support.

To play devil's advocate ... the iPad 2 has a smoother UI than the Transformer (which will hopefully change soon) and if you download an app, it will likely work, even if it's in a small iPhone-esque window. Some Android phone apps will not work in Honeycomb. There's also a buttload of accessories, more developer support for apps, and a better chance that your tablet will be upgraded to the latest iOS without having to rely on forces outside the manufacturer.
But I'd still never own one. Glorified app launcher, I don't think it's a true tablet like the Honeycomb tabs. I'd get bored pretty quickly. But for someone who wants that experience (say, my parents, my sister, a coworker who finds Android confusing), I have no problem recommending it.

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After having a discussion with an iFanboy the other night, the only excuse we could come up with for getting an iPad over the TF is if you already have all apple products for the integration. In short... get the Transformer.
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I already had an iPhone and this was the deciding factor in me returning the Asus for an ipad2.

My father uses an iPad (3g). I think it is a very nice piece of technology, but I prefer the Transformer because it has the keyboard add-on.
I currently use a Macbook Pro and it is too heavy to take with me to classes. I plan on using the tablet + keyboard combo for university. It is light-weight and the memory is expandable.

CardboardGiant said:
My father uses an iPad (3g). I think it is a very nice piece of technology, but I prefer the Transformer because it has the keyboard add-on.
I currently use a Macbook Pro and it is too heavy to take with me to classes. I plan on using the tablet + keyboard combo for university. It is light-weight and the memory is expandable.
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Remember to get drag and drop on OSX you need to get android file manager from the android website.

There is literally a world of reasons, but this is my main one...
The ipad runs a cell phone operating system while ASUS runs an actual tablet OS. While honeycomb isn't quite as smooth as ios when the next few updates arrive it will be far superior. We have an OS specified for tablets while the ipad has the same old crap on it... It is literally just a big iphone.

starplaya93 said:
There is literally a world of reasons, but this is my main one...
The ipad runs a cell phone operating system while ASUS runs an actual tablet OS. While honeycomb isn't quite as smooth as ios when the next few updates arrive it will be far superior. We have an OS specified for tablets while the ipad has the same old crap on it... It is literally just a big iphone.
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Let's not be inaccurate here to a fault. The iPad does not run a "cell phone operating system". There are slight differences between iOS for iPhones/iPod touch and iPad. Just because they look alike or are similar does not mean that iPads run the exact same operating system as an iPhone and iPod Touch. Last i checked, you couldn't load iPhone OS on an iPad or vice versa.
One can say that Android tablets are big versions of android phones as well. Just like there are apps that run on iPads only, there are apps that run on HC tablets only.

I own the iPad2 16GB WIFI (my very first apple product) ... been a pro-Linux / Anti-MSFT / Anti-AAPL guy for a long time. Given that ... take the next few bullets FWIW ..
CONS -
- The iPad2 's dependence on iTunes-PC tether
- The lack of ext. SD support .. a major downer for someone with a 16gb tablet.
- expensive accessories
- not hackable at all (as of now)
- yet another Apple product worshipped by the clan.
PROS -
- The display is gorgeous (videos and pictures look stunning). Screen rotations are quick and fast.
- Most websites that require flash ... interestingly, also have free iPad apps that play video just fine (i.e. CNN / HBO / CBS / ABC etc. etc. etc.)
- The battery truly runs 10+ hrs (even with moderate to heavy use)
- The battery truly does not run out when the unit is on standby. I close the smart cover in the night at (say) 50% ... the next day morning its at 49% ... and during the night it has also downloaded my emails (i.e. wifi stays on).
- Apps rarely bog down the iPad.
- Never had any lockups or reboots.
MOST IMPORTANT PROS
- Availability of apps. Its shocking how many native iPad apps there are. Almost every well-known company has an app on the iPad. TIVO has an app on the iPad. I doubt TIVO has the necessary resources to build a similar one for the Android. Also ... the iPad and the iPad2 have identical aspect ratios and screen resolutions making life really easy for software developers. Android Tablets will come in all flavors and aspect ratios causing major headaches for developers. To make matters difficult, schools and other institutions are buying iPads ... make it a more lucrative option for developers.
I am waiting for the Transformer to ship (on pre-order status @ Amazon and Target). Its going to be interesting.

[Q] Motorola Xoom vs iPad 2, and Honeycomb Apps

I'm on fence on whether to buy a Motorola Xoom (32GB WiFi EU) or an iPad 2. In terms of price, here in Malta the Xoom seems more worth it as I can get it for 498 euro whilst the iPad 2 Wifi 32GB is at 609.
My main concerns are regarding software, and more importantly, apps availability. Now, before you bash my question, I've read a lot of reviews for both devices, and I've gone through lists for Honeycomb apps, but I'd like input from actual Xoom owners that are using it day to day.
Thanks in advance,
Emmanuel

well email and surfing is alot more fun and productive on a Xoom compare to an Ipad2 because of the integrated email and the flash enabled full size browser experience
but if you look at the build quality of them it sure looks like the Ipad2 went thought a lot more intensive QA then the Xoom since on the back of the xoom you kind of able to push in the plastic a bit.... thats makes me a sad panda
anyway comparing xoom vs ipad 2... there is only one logical answer
android =widgets
IOS = no widgets
and with widgets you get your information a lot faster like news, socks and twitter on one page... so yeah and i do use that alot
productivity = xoom
build quality = ipad2
that said i still think the ipad2 really rocks since it's a finished product but it does not have the widgets

I've owned an iPad and now I own a XOOM. For me personally, the ipad doesn't come close - the OS is far too restrictive and the dependency on iTunes was a killer for me (I use linux on all of my home machines, forcing me to run a windows virtual machine just to activate the damned thing).
With that said, the XOOM, or rather, Honeycomb doesn't even come close with regards to app availability. Even if you take the huge headstart that apple have (1 year+), the ipad has simply always been better marketed and there are a lot more apps available. Let's not even get started on the android market place; it's dire. The worst. And for some reason, it's even worse on honeycomb than it is on phones; no ability to rate apps, plenty of bugs (some of which have been addressed in 3.1), no ability to view only tablet apps, terrible filtering and search in general, etc. Apple's app store is how it should be done, the android market place has a long way to come.
The situation is improving for honeycomb and I personally wouldn't dream of going back to the ipad, but for friends and family who couldn't care less about the restrictive nature of iOS and the other things that I dislike, I would recommend the ipad.
With all that said, it looks really weird to see me almost recommending Apple, because I personally can't stand the software. Oh well...

Well, I've never owned an I pad but I have just purchased the xoom and I LOVE it!!!
Most comparisions regard the xoom better, but with the I pad having loads more apps - to some people, this is the deal breaker.
However, if you want a true tablet experience and not just an oversized iPod touch, then go for the xoom.
The xoom has better OS, greater browser and keyboard, better cameras and support flash, it is also not tied down to any PC software such as iTunes and includes more customization options such as widgits. (Android includes a free turn by turn navigation system too)
Oh and the maps and YouTube apps are better on the xoom and have more features (Google property pays off)
I made my decision and I'm happy with my xoom - but the choice is yours.
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I have to disagree. I think the xoom build quality is top notch and better than the iPad. It's just when I hold the iPad I feel like it will break... to thin for my liking.
Now applications look better in my opinion on the iPad. Like it was mentioned here the Apple eco system keeps me away.
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I have owned an iPad, and will likely own an iPad 2 when the current shortage lets up. There is very little left to say about the iPad (either version) that hasn't been said already. They are exceptional devices, gamechangers, perfectly designed to introduce mobile technology to mainstream users. Almost anyone can be up and running in 15 minutes with an iPad, even with no experience and iOS rewards those who embrace its deliberate limitations.
My first experience with Android was with an Archos 5 tablet, and then an Archos 101. I bought both as relatively inexpensive ways to get acquainted with Android. and both were very frustrating experiences in different ways. They really made me begin to view Android as a very niche market.
However, when I needed a new phone and decided that I couldn't wait for a Windows Phone 7 device to be offered here, and refused to get an iPhone, I opted for the Galaxy s and a whole world opened up to me...which then led me to my new Xoom.
I have been playing with it for about half a day now after doing a great deal of reading...I unlocked it, tried to root it and ran into the "stuck on the red M" problem, spent about 2 hours reading and sorting out how to get myself out of the trap via adb, rooted it at last, installed CWM then flashed the Tiamat kernel and finally began loading up my apps. Loved every moment of it. The build quality of the device, in my opinion, is excellent. It feels much better and more substantial in my hands than the iPad. The screen is top notch and I really like the honeycomb environment for work and play.
Most of all, I like the fact that Android is a living, breathing OS. SO much to explore and learn and investigate.
The iPad, for all it's many good points, as I said before rewards those who embrace its limitations. The Xoom rewards those who refuse limitations, who are willing to spend the time and effort to learn how it works and discover ways to do it better.
The iPad is the USS Enterprise...sleek and beautiful but cold and a bit sterile for all its power. What you see is what you get.
The Xoom is the Tardis...a hodgepodge of history and possibility, all wrapped in a shell of sweet wonder....and it is bigger on the inside.

With a Xoom I could have never ever owned a PC and set it up and get it working. It does not require you to hook it up to itunes first. With the iPad... yea I dont know about 15 minutes but after you hook it up to your computer to unlock it (lol) you can finally use it. In my house we have both, I like the Xoom better

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"The iPad, for all it's many good points, as I said before rewards those who embrace its limitations. The Xoom rewards those who refuse limitations, who are willing to spend the time and effort to learn how it works and discover ways to do it better."
I couldn't have said it better. The Xoom is my third Android tablet, my second Tegra2 tab, and the most hands-on and most rewarding and fun to own. I have never liked the Apple zeitgeist and have always avoided that product. I prefer the freedom to mess around, get into scrapes and come back from the brink with a better tab and a lot more knowledge. I think that as an open source, Android will continue to grow and evolve in wonderful ways and I want to be along for the ride.
Also, this thing is built like a tank.

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The iPad is the USS Enterprise...sleek and beautiful but cold and a bit sterile for all its power. What you see is what you get.
The Xoom is the Tardis...a hodgepodge of history and possibility, all wrapped in a shell of sweet wonder....and it is bigger on the inside.
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That made me giggle . But I think the ipad are like the dalek. Cold personality and desire only perfection. seek only to dominate the world!
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That made me giggle . But I think the ipad are like the dalek. Cold personality and desire only perfection. seek only to dominate the world!
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Steve Jobs as Davros ...*shudder*
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i'll keep this short as can be...
iPad/iOs = Checkers.
Xoom/Honeycomb = Chess.

I have played around with both Ipad and Xoom. I currently own a Xoom. Ipad is probably fine if you want something simple with few options(not talking about apps).
The Xoom is pretty cool, and even cooler after unlock & root. The downside is app / game availability, but it's getting better every day.
The killer for me between the two is multitasking. The xoom has it, the ipad not so much.
And also, no itunes. The xoom works out of the box.
The Ipad on the other hand has more accessories, wee..

Keep in mind that these sorts of issues are ultimately a matter of taste, so the things I don't like the iPad may not bother you at all.
I bought an iPad2 and returned it within 48 hours. I really can't explain my utter contempt for that device, but I just hated everything about it. I'm not an Apple hater, mind you; I owned every iPhone through the 3GS and was one of those dorks standing in line on launch days. I really, really wanted to like the iPad 2, but after having owned two Android handsets (and being a big gadget whore) I couldn't stomach going back to an iOS product.
What I hated about the iPad 2:
-Screen resolution sucks
-Too thin and flimsy feeling
-Stock keyboard is HORRIBLE and there's no way to change it
-No widgets
-No UI customization, period
-Cameras suck
-"Notification system" is sort of a joke
-"Multi-tasking" is also sort of a joke
-Far higher cost for iPad apps vs. iPhone/iPod apps, developers nickel & dime you for every little thing (subscriptions, in-app purchases, etc) - seriously, the whole ecosystem was like a giant money sucking vacuum
-QA on my particular unit was terrible - massive light leaks around the edges of the screen and 3 stuck pixels within 1 day of use (and this is not an isolated issue, though Apple is replacing defective units but making sure to blame their supplier)
iOS is getting long in the tooth, and this is hugely magnified in tablet form, especially with the crappy-looking display. I felt like I was using old technology, despite the awesome internal specs. The best comparison I can come up with between Honeycomb and iOS on a tablet is something like Windows 7 compared to Windows 3.1.

hello,
i'm maltese too, on a xoom us wifi .. from amazon.com
worked out to 508 eu including hsbc's 'conversion charge' of 8 eu or so.
ipad vs xoom.. depends on what you need.
if you want a platform to play stuff from itunes.. ipad
if yiu want a portable computer you can meddle with.... xoom of course.
build quality, screen and battery life are excellent too.
cheers

btw where is that price from?
when i bought mine it was closer to 600eu for wifi eu
which is why i got the us one..

While I will state now I am no expert on iOS or the Ipad1/2 I will say this:
My Xoom has me constantly entertained and I've NEVER felt I needed an app that I didnt have at least 4 decent choices of. I have also never left limited on my Xoom for any tasks I wish to undertake, I stream all my media from my computer (via WiFi OR 3G) so everywhere I am I have access to all my media (and now thanks to Google Music moreso) and with Remote Desktop I have access to my Linux and Windows machines no matter where I am. The Xoom constantly feeds me information without having to do anything but look at my homescreens.
I have played with friends Ipad1/2's and while for the most part things seemed smooth and work well I always had this feeling of being lost when looking through the app screens, its like all the icons look the same (same size, many of them same colors) just felt very sterile and un-enjoyable and you get ZERO information without going from one app to another just felt like so much work for simple basic information readily available on my Xoom.
I've never been a fan of iOS or Apple's strategy towards their customers but I really tried to look at my 2 options without bias before choosing my Xoom. As several others are stated you really dont have any choices with Apple products, you take what your given and if you dont like your options you dont have any more to look at.
Android (despite its fragmentation in some areas and flaws, hiccups in others) is the best choice if you like options and a desire to learn more and have real options with your chosen device. If you want something simple that tells you what you want then Apple products are for you. If you dont mind a hiccup with something here and there and having the ultimate say in the apps and add-on parts for your device then I say without a doubt Android is the way to go. Widgets are the best thing to happen to phones/tablets as it gives you so much information without having to do anything to get it and you can always enter into that app for a more detailed look and more options.
As for the comment on Apple App Store having more options, maybe it does but judging by the amount the Android Market has grown over 1 year I highly doubt Apple will be able to say the same thing next year. More and more developers either jump ship from Apples restrictions in apps or choose to release their products on both Android and iOS platforms which means in many cases the Apple App Store is slowing down and stagnating in some areas due to the open nature of app development for Android OS, its infinitely easier to write and sell and app for Android than iOS.
As a side note a friend of mine and I compared apps, we both had some niche apps and some common ones... my total cost was about $40 (like I said I have some apps that cost about $15, my phone apps only had a grand total of like $10) but all in all his total for all similar (sometimes the same app) was about $200, that alone pushed my decision for another android device with the Xoom vs Ipad2.

If your cheap and want to hack get the Xoom. If you want to easily be able get VIDEOS to play fluently for rent or TV episodes get iPad. I got the ipad because it was so gay to get Videos on the thing. Having to convert then drag to device verse iTunes makes iTunes seem easier. Especially is JB.
Xoom =iPad none is clear winner
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jamaicansolja said:
If your cheap and want to hack get the Xoom. If you want to easily be able get VIDEOS to play fluently for rent or TV episodes get iPad. I got the ipad because it was so gay to get Videos on the thing. Having to convert then drag to device verse iTunes makes iTunes seem easier. Especially is JB.
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I am not sure I would call the Xoom cheap (not in build quality and certainly not in price) and I don't see what the sexual orientation of the iPad has to do with the issue.
I feel the video converting question is a non issue. For me, converting via iTunes or by a third party app is just as big a pain, and the iPad's native video app is even more limited codec-wise than the Android stock Video. Anyway, just use a player like MoboPlayer or VPlayer which can show pretty much anything, and you are golden.
However I agree that there is no real BEST TABLET...it is just a matter of personal preference.

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If your cheap and want to hack get the Xoom. If you want to easily be able get VIDEOS to play fluently for rent or TV episodes get iPad. I got the ipad because it was so gay to get Videos on the thing. Having to convert then drag to device verse iTunes makes iTunes seem easier. Especially is JB.
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So spend more money for the more restrictive device? Also, you don't have to hack the xoom. The Xoom has more option out of the box than the ipad.
You didn't manage to get gay videos on the Xoom?

Croolis said:
btw where is that price from?
when i bought mine it was closer to 600eu for wifi eu
which is why i got the us one..
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It's on www.expansys.com.mt, excluding VAT.
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Your next tablet.???

So i was wondering if any of you fellow a500 owners decide to upgrade this year what tablet it might be...
I love my a500 but i will be upgrading this year as i love new tech toys
Currently i see 4 potential suitors. They are...
Obviously the Acer a510 10" quad core t3 ics tablet
Acer a700 HD 10" t3 ics tablet
Asus prime HD (better front camera and higher res screen than current prime)
Finally the only dual core device the Samsung note 10.1 just because i own the phone and know the potential and unique features this offers! (Better for business, email, notes etc... not as good for games as t3)
Please share your thoughts .
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im really thinking of getting acers new 7 inch one when it comes out, the ten is good, but bringing it with me a seven inch might be best.
BUt then agian I love my full sized usb port

The Asus memo looks nice as well. T3 ips and 250 bucks!
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I don't think I will be buying another tablet for years now. I use my A500 so rarely, and I want to be able to slap it in a dock and actually be able to use it for desktop-computing, something that none of the current tablets offer. Tablets are horrible for gaming, so even the improved performance doesn't mean anything to me.

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I don't think I will be buying another tablet for years now. I use my A500 so rarely, and I want to be able to slap it in a dock and actually be able to use it for desktop-computing, something that none of the current tablets offer. Tablets are horrible for gaming, so even the improved performance doesn't mean anything to me.
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yeah i really wish all the big companies would add the usb controller parts into their games, I look at some of gameloft games and go that looks good, by a fps with touch controls never work well.
Onlive with the xbox controller I got is really nice, granted if your near a router

I will buy a windows 8 tablet.

I have an A501 right now but my next one is going to open source, whether it is a linux or android it will have an open source operating system or at least be capable of it.
I have been shopping in China for days, looking for the perfect Tablet...
Must be open source or capable (unlocked bootloader & source available)
10 inch capacitive screen
integrated 3g and phone capable
USB host
HDMI with docking
8hr battery
Wifi & full bluetooth capable (HSP HFP SPP, HID)

I'm only using mine for reading books, some web browsing and web demoing to clients. I don't really have much need for it otherwise, but a Windows 8 tablet I would certainly buy when it's out.

Buying another android tablet does not make any sense, to me at least.
Android is great and all, it has good apps too.
Another Android tablet with better specs? It is still android!!!!!! you will rarely notice the difference between Tegra2 and 3.. ( Unless you download some games only to see a difference).
I'm not interested in Apple's iPad either, not at all.
So the next tablet? Windows 8. Most apps will not be optimized for touch, even Office apps, but does it matter? Well, using those apps won't be as easy as using Android apps, but they can actually replace a laptop!!!!!!
So, the next time I'm in the market for a laptop, not a tablet, I am going to buy a Windows 8 tab that has a dis-connectable keyboard. Thank you.

Thanks for the feedback you all have valid points. I was only stating t3 has better game performance and support over the exynos in the Samsung. Personally i don't game alot. But android tablet games are coming along way fast!
For me the reason for upgrading is in a few months ill be fixing my a500 in my truck as a stereo headunit media center. So I'm going to need /want something new.
Windows 8 might be an option but haven't look into it much. Still won't be released till end if year correct?
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WOW Jumping ahead way to soon
I do not know of one single app that will not run on the Iconia a500. Its just coming up on a year old 450.00 device . i will be using mine for a few more years atleast..
I really still enjoy my iconia and with ICS its even better.

I don't plan on upgrading from my iconia until jelly bean is mainstream. By then I think the tegra 2 will start to feel older and slower, and my battery won't have as good of a charge.
And keep in mind ICS isn't mainstream yet

I'm looking at the a700... a real possibility

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I'm looking at the a700... a real possibility
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Europe pricing is like 749 for 16 gb and just under 1000 for 64gb. Crazy
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If I were to replace my A501 I'd probably go for the Asus Padfone, that way I could replace my Samsung Galaxy S as well.
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I'll start by saying that I really do love Android and despite what anyone says, I do think it's only getting better and is definitely going places.
That being said, I believe my next tablet may just be a Windows 8 tablet...that is of course if they are in the same or a similar price range as Android tablets. It won't be this year. Well, never say never but I highly doubt it will be this year. More than likely next Summer is when I'll be looking.
Currently my A500 does what I want it to, I use it almost daily for everything and I'm very happy with it. I believe that similarly, I would use my Windows 8 tablet in this way with an added bonus of having it be synergistic with my desktop and notebook. That's really the only reason.
I would give it a bit of time - there are apps on Android that aren't currently made for Windows that I want to use and I'd like to see how popular the Windows Store gets with these apps and if they will be free or the right price. I'd also have to see how fluid the OS is on whatever tablet I was interested in. If everything meshes well and I like what I see/use then I will def. be going to Windows 8.
I'll get another Android tablet IF Windows 8 Tablet isn't the experience I expect it to be...again, more than likely sometime next year. Right now I'm quite happy with the A500. The top requirement will be (once bitten, twice shy) that it sources updates directly from/through Google and isn't skinned - so likely some kind of Nexus Tablet, lol.

There's nothing the A500 can't do right now. With our talented Devs bringing us ICS, it makes it even better. All the apps work as they should and all functions work as they should or better. I don't see myself upgrading until the next series of Iconia's get released.
That being said, if HTC smartens up and brings out a 10" tablet with an unlocked bootloader and S-OFF, I may have to snap that up. Abit of an HTC Fanboy at heart =p

I ordered the new iPad on March, 11. I will get it on 5th April.
Thats my next tablet.

I'm sure you have been forced. We all feel very sorry with you

my tablet is only for internet surfing. The display and the battery are better than any android device.
If there are Android tablets in future with stock android (because of fast updates without custom roms), 8h battery time while surfing or watch a movie and 1080P resolution or higher I could sell the iPad and get this new android tablet. But in nearer future I don't think, that this will happen.
I forgot: in germany sky go app ins only avaible Form ios and I want Tor use this

How do the apps run on the N7?

I'm about to buy the tablet myself in a few days but everywhere and anywhere everyone and anyone says that Android doesn't have nearly as many tablet-optimised apps as the iPad. Do the apps run fine or not? I mean do they look good and is it easy to use them or not? Because for the iPad I know there's a separate category so there'll be apps for that.
So could someone confirm if the apps on this tablet run fine or not?
Thanks

They run crappy.
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Ok just my experience, on android many more apps are tablet optimized.
When I was using an ipad it seemed they were all small or had the option to 2x it making it blurry and horrid.
I guess though the Google play store just doesn't show you apps it they're not compatible though, which is fine because for an app that isn't compatible with tabs there are 10 others that are.
And poster above.. I have no words
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My friend there are more apps in the play Store that you could ever use or even fit into the N7. With all the customizations you can make from OCing to roms the sky is the limit concerning the tablet. All the options that android offers will always keep apple in the rear view mirror.
Yes the apps are easy to access, start and run quickly.
Concerning apps and compatibility always use a browser to see all the apps and look at the comments to see if there are any made by N7 owners. Since I have modified the dpi on mine most apps come up as not available and that is when I check the comments. If it's something I want to buy I'll switch my dpi back to stock. It's a pain but I'm never giving up true tablet ui.
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In my exp i've had by means of trade through best buy almost all of the most recent tabs. in order generic android tab eclair 1, archos 101, ipad, ipad 2, xoom acer a500, playbook, lenovo k1, hp touchpad, playbook again, xoom again, achos 80 g9, acer 501, and nexus 7. Android is my favorite. I also like web os and bb os. ios has better game selection hands down. Android has better free apps hands down bb web had no apps. so all depends on what you want it for

Well with all the quad-core machines coming out these days I'm quite sure there'll be loads of great games for Android too. The third post is interesting. So the apps don't seem like they're just multiplied in size. That's good to know. As long as they look natural I'm happy because the Appstore with all it's apps is horrible [my sister got an iPhone 4S the other day and I kept looking for apps and I wasn't THAT impressed. In fact the Play Store is MUCH better.]
I'm going with the Nexus and I'm sure I'll be a happy customer just like 95% of people who bought the thing. [the 5% are the people who're experiencing problems but even they were happy with their device.]
Thanks for the feedback! Appreciate it very much

Next Nexus 7?

Hi I'm a iPhone user and I want to try out Android OS. I'm looking at Nexus 7 due to the bigger screen for video playback, surfing and gaming.
Now that iPad Mini is out, any idea how does the next Nexus 7 will compare against? External storage would make a big difference compare to iPad Mini.

EeeK said:
Hi I'm a iPhone user and I want to try out Android OS. I'm looking at Nexus 7 due to the bigger screen for video playback, surfing and gaming.
Now that iPad Mini is out, any idea how does the next Nexus 7 will compare against? External storage would make a big difference compare to iPad Mini.
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The fact that Tim Cook said "other companies have tried to make 7 in tablets and failed miserably", the Nexus 7 is automatically better.
It has a better resolution screen. Faster. Can play Blu-rays. (Any android). Plenty of free apps. Can root and get paid apps for free. Even an ad-away app. Google drive is nice for cloud storage. Android is great and customizable.

Hello there I have had iPhone for many years since the 2gen and ipad 3rd gen I recently bought this nexus 7 in comparison to iPad mini I don't not regret it one bit not only do I love it I actually don't even pick up my iPad as often both have there cons and Pro but so far from my personal opinion it works perfect for all my tasks mostly gaming and surfing and torrents .
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You are going to get very biased opinions in this forum, or any forum at that. Best bet would be to try them both for yourself.
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The fact that Tim Cook said "other companies have tried to make 7 in tablets and failed miserably", the Nexus 7 is automatically better.
It has a better resolution screen. Faster. Can play Blu-rays. (Any android). Plenty of free apps. Can root and get paid apps for free. Even an ad-away app. Google drive is nice for cloud storage. Android is great and customizable.
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Yup, with the iPad they didn't have to protect themselves because no other company had made such a device. But with the iPhone and iPad Mini, well, they already knew there are alot of other devices at the market which are really good so they had to protect themselves. The "all 7 inch tablets are crap" is typical Apple gibberish.
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computingwarren said:
The fact that Tim Cook said "other companies have tried to make 7 in tablets and failed miserably", the Nexus 7 is automatically better.
It has a better resolution screen. Faster. Can play Blu-rays. (Any android). Plenty of free apps. Can root and get paid apps for free. Even an ad-away app. Google drive is nice for cloud storage. Android is great and customizable.
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Yeah, here on Android we support our devs. Don't advocate piracy.
To the OP, try it out! You have a return Window if you don't like it, but compared to the mini I don't think you can go wrong with the Nexus 7.

Hold them in your hand and see which one seems better.
Then look at the screen doing things you may be doing, like reading web pages, pdf's, ebooks, etc. See which you prefer.
As for the "next Nexus 7", no one knows what that will have so I can't answer how that will compare with the ipad mini.
You may need to adjust the way you use the Nexus given that not all apps are available or act the same as they do on iOS.
I carry an iphone and a Nexus 7 with me daily. There are differences but I'm very happy with the N7. I like having both iOS and Android apps available to me.

If its storage you are worried about then it would be better to go with the iPad... but looking into capability of the OS and hardware, the nexus 7 is far better
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