well thsi kind of stinks out loud! - Kindle Fire General

http://gizmodo.com/5921711/the-google-nexus-tablet-is-here-and-its-out-to-kill-the-kindle-fire
"$200 for the 8 GB model and $250 for 16 GB—that this thing is aiming squarely to extinguish the Fire, as is the big push Google is pressing on sucking up your favorite media"
"built by Asus, the Nexus holds a 1.3Ghz quad-core CPU, 12-core Tegra 3 processor, NFC, and 1 GB of RAM, a 1.2MP front-facing camera, and 8 hours of battery life—all with two different storage variants: 8 GB and 16 GB. That's a damn good level of muscle behind a 7-inch, 1280x800 screen, measuring 198.5 x 120 x 10.45mm."

Why? Do you regret buying a device that has been out for almost a year? If so, you probably get buyer's remorse for every single item you've ever purchased. The tech world moves rather quickly. Rumor has it Amazon will reply with a KF2 by end of July. We'll see. Be happy that we're seeing cheaper and better devices. Don't be a cheapass.

Itaintrite said:
Why? Do you regret buying a device that has been out for almost a year? If so, you probably get buyer's remorse for every single item you've ever purchased. The tech world moves rather quickly. Rumor has it Amazon will reply with a KF2 by end of July. We'll see. Be happy that we're seeing cheaper and better devices. Don't be a cheapass.
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no i meant to write more but hit finsih.
my girl got me the fire for v -day thinking she was being nice. i never actually wanted it. now this is out and if i change my fire for this i will have to listen to her whining because she doesnt understand tech

On the plus side, I'll begin Android 4.1 development the day the source is dropped by Google.
That's mid July.
Last I checked, the Nexus 7 will ship in about 2-3 weeks.
That's mid July.
So while the Kindle Fire will get blown away on any benchmark when compared to the Nexus 7... It may have Jelly Bean running on it right around the same time Nexus 7 owner's are getting them in their homes.

tevil said:
no i meant to write more but hit finsih.
my girl got me the fire for v -day thinking she was being nice. i never actually wanted it. now this is out and if i change my fire for this i will have to listen to her whining because she doesnt understand tech
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Well, I'm sure she'll understand. You can just get the Nexus 7 and give her the KF ;P

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On the plus side, I'll begin Android 4.1 development the day the source is dropped by Google.
That's mid July.
Last I checked, the Nexus 7 will ship in about 2-3 weeks.
That's mid July.
So while the Kindle Fire will get blown away on any benchmark when compared to the Nexus 7... It may have Jelly Bean running on it right around the same time Nexus 7 owner's are getting them in their homes.
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I love you. Inappropriate, but true.
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Well, I'm sure she'll understand. You can just get the Nexus 7 and give her the KF ;P
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i bought her an ipad 2 for her b-day prior which is why i think she got me this because she knows i dislike apple.
the thought was nice but now im trapped within this device for another year or so at least lol. At least the Devs are good here..... huh "hash" huh huh huh wink wink nudge nudge!

How much do you think I will get if I sell my Kindle Fire to get a nexus 7
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You'll probably get $100-150 off Craigslist but closer to $100 I'm thinking about selling mine too the nexus is badass
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Mines in great condition not a scratch
Do you think I'll get more if I sell my case with it
The case was $45
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I love you. Inappropriate, but true.
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How much do you think I will get if I sell my Kindle Fire to get a nexus 7
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I was thinking the same thing and checked out CL and was stunned. Fire's are hemorrhaging on that site for as low as $75 used and $100 new/unopened. So I'm probably going to pass on this new toy from Google as nice as it is...
I'm pretty confident that besides Skype, there really isn't much I would do on that tablet than I can already do on the Fire (I don't use Bluetooth on it and I don't play games on it...so...).
Not saying my choice is the right one for everyone...but the extra $125 I would have to spend doesn't really justify it for me.

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I was thinking the same thing and checked out CL and was stunned. Fire's are hemorrhaging on that site for as low as $75 used and $100 new/unopened. So I'm probably going to pass on this new toy from Google as nice as it is...
I'm pretty confident that besides Skype, there really isn't much I would do on that tablet than I can already do on the Fire (I don't use Bluetooth on it and I don't play games on it...so...).
Not saying my choice is the right one for everyone...but the extra $125 I would have to spend doesn't really justify it for me.
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I agree, my KF does everything I want a tablet to do except for video chat, though I have my Rezound and laptop for that. Knowing Hash will have Jelly Bean for us about the same time the Nexus 7 is released is awesome. I'll probably upgrade from the KF after a full year of use (early January '13) but I'm in no rush.
I look at it this way, we already have something Nexus 7 buyers don't: a out 8 months use of a good solid Android tablet.
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we are only behind by ffc/bt. still love my fire but I'll prolly get a nexus 7 also just for more fun.

smirkis said:
we are only behind by ffc/bt. still love my fire but I'll prolly get a nexus 7 also just for more fun.
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NFC and GPS too if those matter to you; and the Nexus is sounding quite speedy too.
It's been over half a year since Amazon started selling the current Fire and I'm curious to see what kind of performance, features, and screen sizes their rumored Fire 2 will have

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NFC and GPS too if those matter to you; and the Nexus is sounding quite speedy too.
It's been over half a year since Amazon started selling the current Fire and I'm curious to see what kind of performance, features, and screen sizes their rumored Fire 2 will have
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I just ran the chain fire benchmark and the sun spider browser benchmark on my fire running the sgt7 ROM. I came really close to their numbers for the Nexus, 1757 for spider and 11047 for chain.
It's clear that the linaro tweaks give a huge boost, and Google has probably incorporated those optimizations into jelly bean.

tevil said:
no i meant to write more but hit finsih.
my girl got me the fire for v -day thinking she was being nice. i never actually wanted it. now this is out and if i change my fire for this i will have to listen to her whining because she doesnt understand tech
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Do you have a mother, sister, brother, or even a father that might like this Kindle Fire? (Especially a mother, sister or other female family member.) You can explain to your girl that you really appreciate the thoughtfulness of her getting it for you but you've decide that you really want person XYZ to have it and you've got your eye on device ABC when it comes out. Of course some variation might be needed, but if you put enough thoughtfulness into how you explain it then your girl can hardly argue with you otherwise she'll look like a real *****.... but presentation is key.

What will Jelly Bean give us that we don't already have?
I'm curious.

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What will Jelly Bean give us that we don't already have?
I'm curious.
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For us (Kindle Fire users)...probably not much.

Am I the only one who hates that the Nexus 7 is just an oversized phone?
Seeing as how the Fire handles ICS way better than my phone, I do not see a legitimate reason to switch to a Nexus 7.
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My dillema... Sell Xoom for Nexus 7?

I got me a Xoom with all the bells and whistles on release day. Paid a bit over $800 for the 3G Xoom from Verizon (no contract BS), Keyboard, the case, etc.
That was about a year and a half ago. I had it on 3G, then 4G for a while.. but then I just hardly used it anymore. With my Galaxy Nexus phone, I hardly looked back at the Xoom for a really long time. I ended up cancelling my data service through Verizon.
Now after using it for a bit again, I'm loving the tablet experience once more... but unsure about what I should do. I'm tempted to sell the Xoom and pick up the just-announced Nexus 7.
What kinda hurts me is that all the Xoom accessories are now going for a bit $300-350ish give-or-take. A nice chunk off of the $800+ I initially paid.
I know Jelly Bean is coming around for the Xoom in a few months (even longer for the 3/4G version..).
.. or I can just hop on the newly-released Nexus 7. From my perspective.. The Nexus7 has the same resolution 1280x800 res screen as the Xoom, while being smaller. This alone will result in a sharper and crisper display. Which right now.. after using the Xoom again, would be very much welcomed. I've been spoiled by high-DPI screens.
What do you guys think? Sell the Xoom, order the Nexus 7? Or stick around with the Xoom?
The end difference will pretty much be 7 inch vs 10 inch.
Other factors are negligible.
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I know Jelly Bean is coming around for the Xoom in a few months (even longer for the 3/4G version..).
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I will be out much earlier. On Google I/O (I watched it live on YouTube) it was said that JB would roll out to the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S and Xoom in mid july! Of course this only concerns the Google Experience-devices, not the Verizon-version. But as you said you have canceled your contract, so you could just unlock your Xoom and flash the Xoom-Wifi-firmware to get JB in mid july.
Then, like TheStickMan already said, it will mainly end up in the different screen-sizes.
Right now I still think the Xoom is a better device. It does come down to personal preference 10" or 7". We will have to wait and see this device with Jellybean . But you will lose things like HDMI mirror and USB OTG with Nexus 7.
Nexus 7 has no HDMI-Mirroring? Really? That's bad... Also the GNex has it...
Personally I got a Xoom (running CM9) and a Galaxy Nexus (actually running the leaked JB-release). And I thought about selling my Xoom and buying a Nexus 7.
Disregarding the point that I can't even order it in Germany yet, I think that, already having a nearly 5-inch smartphone I always carry with me, I don't really need a 7-inch tablet. A 10-inch tablet is better this way, even though I only take it with me, when I need it.
I don't think in Google's eyes the Nexus 7 is the successor of the Xoom. It an addition. And if you listen to the rumors it will get a successor by the end of the year, when the Nexus 10 may be released. Then, I think, I will replace my Xoom with a Nexus 10.
are u freaking nuts xoom rocks man :silly:
Makes no sense
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Also no micro-sd slot for nexus 7 :silly:
Don't do it, xoom is better at all, yes, the nexus 7 is quad core and pure google but tegra 2 is a really good cpu and with xoom you have a great support in xda
I have a similar choice, although I only got my xoom last week so I can still return to the manufacturer this week.
I prefer the 10" form factor for tablets and the lack of hdmi out on the nexus7 is a bit of an oversight imo, although I can understand they wanted to keep costs to a minimum. Amazon are supposedly to release a 10" kindle fire tablet but without knowing the price/specs it is hard to decide.
This decision would be much easier for me if my uk model xoom was a proper GED like the US versions. I am reluctant to void warranty until at least six months has passed on any device before messing with flashing custom/other region's ROMS. Knowing the Xoom would defiantly get 4.1 in the next month or so would be a big factor!
Support for the Xoom is priceless!
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Keep the Xoom
Like others have said, moving to the Nexus 7 you lose the SD card slot and hdmi port. I have also heard rumors about a 10 inch Nexus, so if you like the screen size of the Xoom maybe just wait.
I'm keeping the Xoom and getting the N7. Win Win....two 4.1 supported devices, 10" and 7" for separate purposes.
Def keep the Xoom. I actually like the fact that the Xoom has a rear facing camera as well. And a pretty good one at that.
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I was also considering this. I want to upgrade the Xoom but i'm not sure whether to go with the Nexus 7 or the Transformer Pad Infinity.
I have a GNex, Xoom 4G and an Evo View [HTC Flyer]. All three sizes and I am VERY happy with all three. I would replace the Evo View but the stylus is too hard to give up.
Keep the Xoom. Just add the Nexus 7 to your tech harem. Then again, I don't have a lap or desktop, so I need the Xoom for productivity. You may not have that limitation.
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Oh.. by the way the Nexus7 runs phone-mode. Xoom runs tablet-mode.
I'm sure this can be tweaked with custom ROMS etc, but something to keep in mind.
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I have a GNex, Xoom 4G and an Evo View [HTC Flyer]. All three sizes and I am VERY happy with all three. I would replace the Evo View but the stylus is too hard to give up.
Keep the Xoom. Just add the Nexus 7 to your tech harem. Then again, I don't have a lap or desktop, so I need the Xoom for productivity. You may not have that limitation.
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Nexcellent said:
I was also considering this. I want to upgrade the Xoom but i'm not sure whether to go with the Nexus 7 or the Transformer Pad Infinity.
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Don't take the Transformer Pad if you like updates. Only Nexus-devices are updated like Nexus-devices. Of course the community normally manages to build custom ROMs after some time, but those are better with the proper proprietary files. And, of course, most of the devs prefer Nexus-devices, so there is a wide range of ROMs and MODs available.
I wouldn't like to wait for month, so I only buy Nexus-devices or at least Google Experience-devices like the Xoom.
I had initially created this thread a few minutes after listing the Xoom on eBay.
I took the auction down late last night.
I saw the suggestion about just flashing the ROM from the Wifi-only one, and that's most likely what I'll be doing. It should have - but never really crossed my mind that I could just flash that ROM and ignore the 4G card's support that I wasn't using anyway.
Part of me really still wants the Nexus7 though
Though the part about it running in Phone-mode rather than Tablet-mode does bug me. I'll see how that goes after some devs get a hold of it though.
The screen DPI of the Xoom does still bug me though
I've bee spoiled by the likes of the Galaxy Nexus, iPad 3, and other beautifully-high DPI screens.

My XOOM days are officially over. Almost makes me sad.

Yep, I got a Nexus 10, so I'm doing a little trade with XDAer cdromo90 for a little Nexus 7. He wants to give the XOOM to his nephew for a larger screen, and I will probably give the N7 to my nephew for his birthday in a couple of months (his mom got a Kindle Fire for Christmas, and I think he's been bitten by the Android bug, so I want to make sure he gets off to a good start! )
As one of the very first people to own the very first Android tablet, I have to say it's been a great ride. I was one of the lucky ones who got a VZW 3G XOOM on day one at a discounted price ($200 off) due to a glitch in Motorola's system (You guys remember THAT? Ha! Still one of the best deals I've ever gotten hands down!). It was my first experience as an early adopter of any device, and I have to say it's been a great experience! To see Android tablets come from Honeycomb and grow up to Jellybean really made me appreciate being on the cutting edge. Not only has the XOOM gotten better with every Android update, but even to this day I feel like it's still good enough for a daily driver even with all of the new tablets coming out, not to mention I still think it's the best built, best looking tablet to this day (I love the N10, and a few other tablets have been ok looking, but the XOOM is just a marvelously well built piece of technology.) With custom Jelly Bean ROMS and the ability to overclock it, I felt like it still had a good amount of life left in it, and I'm happy to pass it along to someone who will still use and enjoy it instead of it sitting in my closet as a backup.
So, off I ride into the sunset. So long, XOOMers!
My old wifi Xoom
Team EOS is keeping my Xoom interesting with their Jellybean 4.2 nightlies. There still isn't much I can't do with this old tablet. And like you said it's still the best built and best looking tablet around .
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Team EOS is keeping my Xoom interesting with their Jellybean 4.2 nightlies. There still isn't much I can't do with this old tablet. And like you said it's still the best built and best looking tablet around .
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I agree, but I jumped to the N10 when I began to doubt the Xoom would get 4G with JB 4.2. I'm glad I was wrong on that, but now I wpn't give up the incredible resolution on the N10.
The Xoom is definitely showing its age but its been pretty awesome to see its performance increase from 3.x to 4.0 to 4.1.
Enjoy the Nexus 10, I'm mildly jealous but I'm waiting for next year's nexus 10" and really hoping its built by Motorola.
Funny enough I can't see myself parting with my Xoom. It may overtaken by newer devices but it is a fine solid bit of kit and can just be retasked to other duties. I saw one being built into a car as a multimedia centre. There will always be a use for it until it dies
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Funny enough I can't see myself parting with my Xoom. It may overtaken by newer devices but it is a fine solid bit of kit and can just be retasked to other duties. I saw one being built into a car as a multimedia centre. There will always be a use for it until it dies
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My XOOM is my baby and I'll never let her go. That is, unless, maybe Motorola decides to build a worthy successor. I refuse to say the Xyboard is even a thing.
I just sold my 4g Xoom for $225. I will surely miss it. I am sad tonight.
yep. i just leave my Xoom goodbye yesterday. I bought nexus 7 3g and I'm really happy. the top reasons to consider nexus 7 are: less hand fatigue, 100 % so portable, fast software update,good customer support( service centre just in front of my house), its an Asian product and cheap. reasons to dump Xoom: lack of software update, Motorola doesn't keep their promises, bulky,hand fatigue, not really portable, most of all, hard to play games especially when pressing button. so goodbye xoomers.
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I thought about selling my Xoom when the nexus 10 came out. I decided to keep it and avoid the hassle of selling the Xoom. Also decided to buy a nexus 7. Really happy that I decided to keep the Xoom. I really like the fact that I have the LTE Verizon version. Also like the fact that it has a camera (and a pretty decent one at that) and HDMI out. It is starting to show is age a bit, but it's no doubt a well built quality device. I'm sure we'll never see key like pie, but Team EOS and CyanogenMod have kept the Xoom relevant with their hard work on 4.2. I'll be keeping mine for at least another year.
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I'm tempted to purchase a new tablet but my xoom is just so well built and still works extremely well for my casual usage although its showing its age. I'm more tempted to buy a galaxy s4/note3 when they release then a new tablet though.
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Just ordered a Nexus 10... But hanging onto my XOOM just in case... Should be interesting. I think I'll miss my built in MicroSD Card Reader the most...
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As for me I just bought my XOOM a month ago, I believe it still worth to be owned device
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actually xoom is a nice device. but its quite heavy to carry around.
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I agree. Definitely not one to carry aroun SD. Love my N7 for that.
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I love new gadgets and some of the new tablet screens look great but I haven't found anything I can't do on my old xoom. Getting itchy for a new toy/tool but will keep my xoom. I did give up on paying Verizon for data especially when they can't be bothered to update the software and support their customers. I will never buy another Verizon branded tablet. Many thanks to our developers for keeping my xoom up to speed.
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As for me I just bought my XOOM a month ago, I believe it still worth to be owned device
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Same. For someone who has never owned a tablet, it's great. Reading is a pleasure.
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for me xoom is one of the best old tablet. i have use it for more then 1 year. but, one thing for sure, when i play games or reading when i hold it, makes my hand fatigue, therefore i cant hold it for too long. so i decided to buy nexus 7, and that is a wise decision
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I just sold my 4g Xoom for $225. I will surely miss it. I am sad tonight.
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My XOOM entered Hall of Fame, I will never let it gone.
As I did do the same with my Casio Agenda, HP 24C, HP 48G (it was stolen, unfortunately) and my Palm Life Drive.
Enviado de meu XOOM MZ605 (Android 4.2.2 pelo Team EOS 4).
Wow same here...just got the nexus 7 and looking to sell my xoom. It has been great and still is.
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I am on EOS4 build184on my WiFi Xoom and its running perfectly. I'm overclocked to 1600Mhz and its running smooth and fast. JB 4.2.1 is not meant to run on this old processor but Team EOS has managed to make my Xoom run like the best of tablets. I do have to mention the fact that I am using a 3rd party keyboard and Nova launcher to get past some of the shortcomings of this old hardware but I'm satisfied with it.

Buy or not?

So I'm debating to get my dad a nexus 7 16gb wifi only from staples for $200,for his b day.. My question is,
What's the common issues? I know reviews are really high but all things have some issues despite people who buy it and a day later review it without having it for some time.
Was it worth it? Do you guys love it or hate it or get annoyed or what? Either this or a electric Fireplace space heater...
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So I'm debating to get my dad a nexus 7 16gb wifi only from staples for $200,for his b day.. My question is,
What's the common issues? I know reviews are really high but all things have some issues despite people who buy it and a day later review it without having it for some time.
Was it worth it? Do you guys love it or hate it or get annoyed or what? Either this or a electric Fireplace space heater...
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Ya can read around here. Like most devices there are a few issues but IMO there are no deal breakers. All in all I think most users here, myself included are very happy with this. I have the 32 GB 3g BTW
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Either this or a electric Fireplace space heater...
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Well, I can say 100% that I would rather have my Nexus 7 than an electric Fireplace space heater
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Because you don't live in Alaska....:sly:
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ReapersDeath said:
So I'm debating to get my dad a nexus 7 16gb wifi only from staples for $200,for his b day.. My question is,
What's the common issues? I know reviews are really high but all things have some issues despite people who buy it and a day later review it without having it for some time.
Was it worth it? Do you guys love it or hate it or get annoyed or what? Either this or a electric Fireplace space heater...
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I love my nexus 7, its the most up to date google software device running jelly bean. Its pretty smooth on stock software, i SUGGEST the 32gb model, i have it and it was 269$ total that was with ny 8% sales tax. They are selling it pretty cheap it take them about 180$ to make it and they sell it for not much of a profit. THIS IS PURELY GOOGLE software. No ASUS overlay like cellphones or anything. Its great it and the BEST tablet for the money.
Cons: No rear camera, no external SD slot, on stock software you cannot view landscape mode on homescreen and do not purchase from gamestop have not heard good things as in LCD problems and such. I suggest staples, walmart, or playstore.
Hope this helps!
I don't know how old your dad is but I am 66 and I freaking love mine.
Got mine from Google on pre order...unlocked and rooted the first day and haven't looked back!!!
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I love my nexus 7, its the most up to date google software device running jelly bean. Its pretty smooth on stock software, i SUGGEST the 32gb model, i have it and it was 269$ total that was with ny 8% sales tax. They are selling it pretty cheap it take them about 180$ to make it and they sell it for not much of a profit. THIS IS PURELY GOOGLE software. No ASUS overlay like cellphones or anything. Its great it and the BEST tablet for the money.
Cons: No rear camera, no external SD slot, on stock software you cannot view landscape mode on homescreen and do not purchase from gamestop have not heard good things as in LCD problems and such. I suggest staples, walmart, or playstore.
Hope this helps!
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The last update gave landscape mode on stock homescreen
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I vote for the Nexus. I've had mine since November and haven't had any problems with it. It's a great value, I did a lot of research before buying mine and found it to be the best 7 inch tablet.
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Buy it, you'll have no regrets. I'm sure your dad will love it, just like we love our N7 devices. It's one of the best tablets on the market.
Honestly, I think the N7 is just about the best $200 you can spend as far as technology goes.
Mine is basically defect-free. That hardware is really nice. It's a convenient size, great for reading, email and web-browsing.
However, only you know your dad. If you think he'd like a tablet, the N7 is definitely a great one!
I found this to be ironic since I bought an electric fireplace heater AND nexus 7 recently
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For my dad I would go with the heater, because he's not into these types of toys. But like someone said, only you know your dad, and the fact your considering getting him one speaks volumes, so as an opinion I say go for it. My 32GB was the best $260 I've spent in a long time.
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yes i agree !! Its worth buying
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yes i agree !! Its worth buying
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I don't know your dad's age but I did something similar I'll describe below.
My step-dad is 61. He's never been real big on technology, he likes using it, for example he's a movie buff and loves home theater stuff, but he really doesn't care at all to know how it works or why it works. He's the kind of person who mysteriously ends up with the strangest toolbars ever on his computer when all he was trying to do was type something in notepad.
When he saw my first tablet, which was when the ipad launched originally, he fell in love with having a big screen and touch interface. So I got him one for Christmas and half expected him to use it for a little while and get frustrated or bored and shelve it longterm. But to my surprise he took to it with no problems and lived on it.
Fast forward a few years to the Nexus 7 launch. A few weeks after the Nexus 7 launched (I bought at staples before the pre order fiasco prior to launch day) he had surgery, heart surgery actually. He had some minor complications and ended up staying in the ICU a few weeks instead of a few days. There was no TV where he was.
His surgeon really stressed to us that he couldn't be working from the ICU, so his own ipad was out of the question. I went and bought a case for the Nexus 7 and then loaned it to him in the hospital. He usually likes big screens and large print, but he says the 7 inch screen is perfect for him and he really liked the Jelly Bean OS and interface a lot. Now he's begging for his own Nexus 7 after using those for a few weeks.
When I'm caught up financially I will buying him a Nexus 7 for sure. Even for a "bull in a china shop" type person who's not a techie, the Nexus 7 is one of the best overall devices I think you could give as a gift. The tablet and jellybean just work, and work great, and it's not much of a learning curve.
Just buy it. It's a greatest device for its money with powerful cpu+gpu plus the grate service support (hope you never needed). The only bad thing is that the glass is not gorilla glass but just Corning class so you must be gentle with the screen.
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Nexus 7 for 8 Year Old Birthday Present..?

Hi guys,
Youngest daughter has decided on a tablet for her 8th Birthday (birthday is end of August).
I think a 7" tablet will be more than fine for what she needs. So with all the 7" tablets around would you pick the Nexus 7 over all the others?
16GB WIFI will be the model I buy as I doubt very much she will ever get close to using up 16GB.
I've just spend a long time reading about the 2nd Generation coming out end of July - will the 2nd generation sort out the lag problems what occur over time with the 1st generation or is this 'lag' just rumours?
chrisgtl said:
Hi guys,
Youngest daughter has decided on a tablet for her 8th Birthday (birthday is end of August).
I think a 7" tablet will be more than fine for what she needs. So with all the 7" tablets around would you pick the Nexus 7 over all the others?
16GB WIFI will be the model I buy as I doubt very much she will ever get close to using up 16GB.
I've just spend a long time reading about the 2nd Generation coming out end of July - will the 2nd generation sort out the lag problems what occur over time with the 1st generation or is this 'lag' just rumours?
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I think it's a better decision to wait for the 2nd gen Nexus 7, and yes, the first gen is a little bit laggy but if you stay with the stock kernel it'll be fine.
I have had a Nexus 7 for over 7 months and I have seen no signs of lag. Also there will be a 4.3 update which has fixed lag and touch responsiveness problems on the Nexus 4 so it will probably fix the lag problem on the Nexus 7. Nexus 7's are dirt cheap now and the 2nd gen won't be as cheap.
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My 9 year old has one and loves it, no lag issues and she installs all kinds of crappy games on it
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I think it's a better decision to wait for the 2nd gen Nexus 7, and yes, the first gen is a little bit laggy but if you stay with the stock kernel it'll be fine.
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Lag....have'nt experienced any since january...CUZ I BOUGHT NEXUS 7 IN JANUARY...
A first gen nexus 7 is more than enough for an 8yo. Kids don't care about what cpu is in the tablet or about the screan resolution or what not. All they want is for it to turn on and play the games they install. The nexus 7 has more than enough prosesing power for all the newest games, and with the next gen coming out soon, the first gens are dirt cheap. In fact, you just convinced me to get one for my kid too :good: On a side note, I've had my n7 for 8 months and never had any lag. Good luck on your tablet choice and happy b-day to your kid.
I recently flashed back to stock 4.2.2 and did noticed more lag then a custom ROM + kernel. It might partially because I previously had the CPU overclocked with userspace governor.
Agree with other replies, I have had 1st gen since launch and haven't experienced any noticeable lag, and would highly recommend this.
Personally I would wait for a 2nd gen, but imagine there will be a price drop for 1st Gen too from Google if prices is a consideration....and the 1st gen will get 4.3 and other updates pretty rapidly too
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OK - I will wait to see what happens with pricing of the 2nd gen vs 1st gen before buying anything.
My 8 year old won't notice any difference between a 1st gen and 2nd gen - however I will hehe, first thing I will be doing to it is flashing rascarlo and franco as that is what is on my Nexus 4.
Can't believe how many Nexus 7's are going up for sale, but the sad thing is people want far too much for them as they can't take the hit for how much they will lose through selling it for a 2nd gen replacement.
Tesco and Argos in the UK are both doing reconditioned units with 12 months warranty for ~£120 inc P&P.
Can't wait to order one and mess with it (I mean wrap it up for her birthday).
My six year old daughter got my 16 gig model hand me down when I got my 32 gig. She has had it for almost a year and loves it. I am running latest AOKP and FRanco kernel and everything runs great a good battery life. I got a pink rubberized case to go around it and has saved it from many falls. I highly recommend it for kids in my own personal experience.
Why do such young peeps need a tablet?
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Why do such young peeps need a tablet?
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Why do you need one? To do things, right? Kids are being brought up in a technical world and as a result start using/needing tech products earlier and earlier with each generation.
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Why do you need one? To do things, right? Kids are being brought up in a technical world and as a result start using/needing tech products earlier and earlier with each generation.
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That's right, but in that age i was playing outside with friends, just sayin'..
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That's right, but in that age i was playing outside with friends, just sayin'..
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As was I, however this is a new generation. They are using more tech just for school work and they see their parents using things and want to emulate them. It also actually helps them learn and grow. It helps with hand eye coordination as well as learning/reading/entertainment. Like anything else moderation is the key, it is not meant to be a babysitter.
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As was I, however this is a new generation. They are using more tech just for school work and they see their parents using things and want to emulate them. It also actually helps them learn and grow. It helps with hand eye coordination as well as learning/reading/entertainment. Like anything else moderation is the key, it is not meant to be a babysitter.
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Alright, got your point
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Alright, got your point
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Woohoo I win! Wait was this a contest? I was just trying to give an explanation as to why kids should get a tablet. Now phones? That's a whole new ball game! What frakking 6-10 year old needs a phone? If it's too know where they are, well learn to parent they are too damn young to need to be tracked down.
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but becareful, later your kids will having eye problem lol.
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At 8 years old I was using my Dad's Mac SE/30 with a huuuuge 20 MB hard drive! And after my Bar Mitzvah I spent well over $1K of gift money a 486 IBM Aptiva. So a cheap N7 does not seem out of the question.
I would say, go with the 1st gen 16 or 32 gig. It's still a quad-core processor, and you may find lag issues improve in 4.3. Then again I'm a techie guy at age 31 and I seriously have not experienced any notable lag. The only thing is, the 1st gen has a lousy speaker and it may blow out after a while.
Also a piece of advice: Create a separate Google Play account and do not keep a billing method assigned to it. If you want to purchase anything on that account, add your credit/debit card to her account and make the purchases, and then remove the card again. Also, prepaid Google Play gift cards could be added to her account. This makes sure she will not trigger any unwanted or excessive in-app purchases. If you have apps you bought and want her to use them too, sign in with your secondary account, install them, and then sign out.
There are sooo many bright and colourful games that kids would love to play - and that support in-app purchases. Protect yourself
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Woohoo I win! Wait was this a contest? I was just trying to give an explanation as to why kids should get a tablet. Now phones? That's a whole new ball game! What frakking 6-10 year old needs a phone? If it's too know where they are, well learn to parent they are too damn young to need to be tracked down.
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Your right
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Get it for her!
I got my 6.5 yr old the N7 for Christmas (she's 7 now, bday in March). She got my 16gb WiFi version & I gifted myself the 32 gb version.
We've had no trouble with it. I got a cute pink case, tossed some Hello Kitty icons, themes & bam, good to go. She loves it & has no complaints.
No reason to get her the next-gen N7 - The original is a high-end enough device that it will last as long as it's taken care of & be supported for some time to come from Google (Android 5 in October, etc.). Save the $50+ you'd spend getting 2nd Gen & get her the 1st Gen with case, screen protector, cool stylus, & maybe some Play credit
Happy birthday to kiddo whichever way you go.
And to the person posting about being outside & playing at 8, sure. It's called a time limit on electronics. I'd rather she was playing on her tablet than watching TV. And 50% of the time she'd rather be outside swimming, playing soccer, running than inside, so I'm Ok with her having a tablet. Good way to build responsibility and another thing the help with rules and guidelines and making good choices...learning & development - mental enrichment NOT at the detriment of physical activity.

[Q] tf700 broke... replacement???

hey guys... im a frequent reader (not poster) of the forums and have a simple question. my mom broke my tf700 so i sent it in to squaretrade and the are reimbursing me $499.99 bc they can not fix it (first time using squaretrade and im very happy i insured it through them).
What should i replace it with? i loved the tf700 but i cant see myself spending $400ish on a devices thats a year and a half old.
i was thinking nexus 10 but the same problem as the tf700 comes into play... $400ish for a year old device. it would be a big disapointment to buy it and have the nexus 10.2 come out next month at CES. i understand that tech is always gettin better and ill always be waiting for the next upgrade and yada yada yada but a year old tablet at $400 is a little pushing it. The upside is that the device wouldnt need to be unlocked as it has the best rom on it (stock kitkat).
i was also thinking of the kindle fire hdx 8.9 bc that seems like the best bang for your buck at the moment. It has the newest and best hardware out and is getting great reviews. the only problem with the hdx is that the bootloader isnt unlocked and who knows if it will eventually be (i have faith but i dont wanna drop $400 soley on faith). if i get the hdx it is a must that it would have to be on a custom rom as i cant stand the mojito rom amazon uses.
so pretty much my question is what would you buy if you were on the market for a tablet today???
PS- what is you guys opinions on 7" tablets?? i think 10" is where the swet spot is but if you guys can persuade me otherwise.
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hey guys... im a frequent reader (not poster) of the forums and have a simple question. my mom broke my tf700 so i sent it in to squaretrade and the are reimbursing me $499.99 bc they can not fix it (first time using squaretrade and im very happy i insured it through them).
What should i replace it with? i loved the tf700 but i cant see myself spending $400ish on a devices thats a year and a half old.
i was thinking nexus 10 but the same problem as the tf700 comes into play... $400ish for a year old device. it would be a big disapointment to buy it and have the nexus 10.2 come out next month at CES. i understand that tech is always gettin better and ill always be waiting for the next upgrade and yada yada yada but a year old tablet at $400 is a little pushing it. The upside is that the device wouldnt need to be unlocked as it has the best rom on it (stock kitkat).
i was also thinking of the kindle fire hdx 8.9 bc that seems like the best bang for your buck at the moment. It has the newest and best hardware out and is getting great reviews. the only problem with the hdx is that the bootloader isnt unlocked and who knows if it will eventually be (i have faith but i dont wanna drop $400 soley on faith). if i get the hdx it is a must that it would have to be on a custom rom as i cant stand the mojito rom amazon uses.
so pretty much my question is what would you buy if you were on the market for a tablet today???
PS- what is you guys opinions on 7" tablets?? i think 10" is where the swet spot is but if you guys can persuade me otherwise.
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I think the Nexus 10 will suit your needs. Seriously it is really good. Even after a year. Its still a high end tablet. Maybe you should wait till the end of the month to see if the new n10 will be announced/released. But to this day only rumours suggested it would come. Nothing in sight yet.
I personally hate 7" tablets. They are just phones that are too big and hij cant call with them. I mean: too big for a phone too small for a tablet. But thats just my opinion.
I own a Nexus 10 and love it. Especially with art. I really recommend it if you are searching for a 10" tablet.
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I think the Nexus 10 will suit your needs. Seriously it is really good. Even after a year. Its still a high end tablet. Maybe you should wait till the end of the month to see if the new n10 will be announced/released. But to this day only rumours suggested it would come. Nothing in sight yet.
I personally hate 7" tablets. They are just phones that are too big and hij cant call with them. I mean: too big for a phone too small for a tablet. But thats just my opinion.
I own a Nexus 10 and love it. Especially with art. I really recommend it if you are searching for a 10" tablet.
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thanks a lot for you input... i really appreciate it. any thoughts on the kindle???
Hi,
While I think that Kindle tablet is really interesting, if you want to see deeper development it isn't the best choice, as you said it probably won't have the bootloader unlocked, while on Nexus 10 you just type "fastboot oem unlock" and it's done haha! The tablet you had before is a 10" tablet, so I think you'll have a better time with another 10" tablet .
Also don't really worry about the tablet age, while everything new will appear almost every month, that doesn't mean the older are bad! I have a Xoom that mom broke the display, so I got Nexus 10, both are amazing devices, while Nexus 10 is way more powerful, I can still use my Xoom on HDMI with no problems . It's just a matter of adaptation, then you won't invest "useless money" if you understand what I mean .
In other words of my adaptation metaphor. Go for one tablet that is good enough and has a good development community, then you're assured that it will last a good long life hehe.
~Lord
What about gtab 8.3?
thanks for all the feedback guys... i went for the kindle fire. Amazon extended the return period until jan 30 so i have just about 50 days to tinker with it and decide if shes a keeper. i was just stunned at the screen the kindle had. it simply is beautiful. the nexus 10 was the best android screen but i think the kindle now has the best tablet scrren in the world (ipad included). just hoping that the bootloader gets unlocked bc i dont know if i can stand this fire os crap. that is by far the only flaw i can think of on this bad boy, however, it is a big one!!
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thanks for all the feedback guys... i went for the kindle fire. Amazon extended the return period until jan 30 so i have just about 50 days to tinker with it and decide if shes a keeper. i was just stunned at the screen the kindle had. it simply is beautiful. the nexus 10 was the best android screen but i think the kindle now has the best tablet scrren in the world (ipad included). just hoping that the bootloader gets unlocked bc i dont know if i can stand this fire os crap. that is by far the only flaw i can think of on this bad boy, however, it is a big one!!
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I was going to suggest the new TF701T or Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 as possibilities. If you're okay with Apple, the iPad Air looks nice and is the lightest 10" tablet out there now.

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