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all owners email acer about locked bootloader!

I just emailed acer and asked them to revise their bootloader policy.
If all of us would Do so we might get them to reconsider their policy.
It worked for the htc community so why not for us?
I hope you all will support this action so the impact will be bigger.
We also might want to bring this idea to other a500 support forums.
Kind regards.

also reply to this thread on their facebook wall. http://www.facebook.com/Acer/posts/10150179327172544

ibila said:
I just emailed acer and asked them to revise their bootloader policy.
If all of us would Do so we might get them to reconsider their policy.
It worked for the htc community so why not for us?
I hope you all will support this action so the impact will be bigger.
We also might want to bring this idea to other a500 support forums.
Kind regards.
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Yah and dont forget to mention that ASUS is kickin their a$$ on posted files and bootloader policy which is why their outsellin them even though the HW's not as good IMO.

I've lost the rag, and sent them this.
I've been up front with them but the device is mine to do with a i please...
Dear Acer Support,
I would like someone to contact me regarding the Iconia A500 tablet which i have purchased around 2 weeks ago.
I am having issues with the update which has been sent out and it will not install due to file checksums mismatches. I have been using android since the first ever handset was release and i find your methods of updating the tablet or the OS bewildering inline with every other update method for other devces up until this one. Over the last 3 years, i have NEVER had any problems updating an Android device, until now.
I would like to know how to restore my handset completely as the 'reset' option on the side of the device simply wipes the data, the integrity of the OS remains unchanged.
I need a way to factory restore my unit in order for me to receive the update, which i am assuming includes fixes for the hastily pushed out Honeycomb os and critical security patches for android holes.
If i do not receive prompt a swift technical support of an advanced level i will be returning the product as i currently view this a waste of 500 Euros. I will not hesitate to purchse the Motorola Xoom, which appears to be on Android 3.1 already...
I can be contacted on (removed) or on (Removed)@gmail.com.
I would appreciate a call TODAY, or it will be handed back today at 5.30pm.
Kind Regards,

i just did a quick reply on that Facebook link. Thnx gunnyman!

Anyone got acer contact details that we all should be emailing?

I am spamming their facebook!

I used this link:
http://acer.custhelp.com
Eddited the link as it send the questions in my name...lol.

Well...got the reaction i expected and not the one i hoped for.
Re-thinking whether to keep it or sell it in favor of the asus transformer...
Discussion Thread ---------------------------------------------------------------Response (Sherina PB) - 05/27/2011 07:27 AM Dear karim kalschoven,
Thank you for contacting Acer. My name is Sherina and Badge NumberGWSI1020. I'll be happyto assist you.
I understand you wanted help unlockingbootloader on your Acer ICONIAA500.
Currently we do not have provision to have this unlocked and we are unsure on any probable policychange on this, you may check back later to see for any updates.
For further clarifications please feel free to visit our website: http://support.acer.com/Have a great day!
Respectfully, Acer Online Technical Support
And this is my reply:
Hello, this anwser by your company inspired just me to sell the acer a500 and get me a asus transformer. I will post in the community forums and spread what Acer's standpoint is and will advise all doubters not to get the A500 if they love a community supporting brand! Great job Acer..this was the last products Ill ever buy from you!

What's the email address that we should be mailing? I found nothing on the acer contact page.

email sent...
Uninstalling a couple of apps removing the facility to update is enough for me. Always defended Acer when people have been quick to moan about build quality with their laptops but if they don't sort this out, I'll think again.

I just sent an e-mail too...
We should write a petition as they did on Motorola and HTC...

Lets all petition this. Sick of not able to install custom roms.
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Done!!!! Hope this helpes.

can anyone post this on Acer FB or st with a message: HTC FTW. ACER FTL
http://androidandme.com/2011/05/new...longer-lock-the-bootloaders-on-their-devices/

Also posted on that Facebook post (and mentioned how HTC has reversed their bootload lock policy based on customer feedback)

I posted too. And then had a chat with customer support, which was as unhelpful as it could get. They promised to get back to me, however I have my doubts.
Reproducing below:
-- NOTE: skipping polite introduction
Govindan Sharanji: I will certainly provide you the information in this regards ####.
AD: thank you
Govindan Sharanji: Could you please stay online for two minutes while I retrieve the information for you?
-- NOTE: at this point I had hopes
AD: Sure, no problem
Govindan Sharanji: Thank you for being on hold. I really appreciate your patience.
AD: No worries
Govindan Sharanji: I need to refer you to phone support to resolve your issue.
AD: Ok
Govindan Sharanji: Our Voice Support are available on Monday - Friday 5am- 12 Midnight.You can reach our Voice Department at this numbers : 1-800-571-2237.
AD: I understand.. However I'm not located somewhere where I have access to 1-800 numbers
AD: Can I get an email with the info?
Govindan Sharanji: Shall I email the chat session to your email ID at ########, so that you can go through the information at your convenient time?
AD: The source code for the android kernel should be made available on request, according tothe GPL
AD: No, thanks, that's not necessary. I would like to get access to the kernel source code, and I was hoping you guys could send me an email later with a link
AD: or something similar
Govindan Sharanji: Sure.
-- NOTE: Maybe there's hope?
AD: Thank you
Govindan Sharanji: ####, to conclude we have suggested to email the required information and this should help you fix the issue. If there are no additional questions on this topic, I will close the chat session.
Govindan Sharanji: Thank you for using Acer Live Chat. Please feel free to chat again anytime.
Govindan Sharanji: Have a great day and take care.
AD: One more question - are there any plans for Acer to provide a recovery image for the Iconia Tab A500?
AD: Something that would restore it to factory defaults and reflash the software
AD: And also are there any plans to unlock the bootloaders, as HTC is doing?
AD: The developer community pretty much perceives you as developer-unfriendly, and it would be great to change that
Govindan Sharanji: As of now the recovery image are not provided you can get back to us for future updates.
AD: Well.. Ok.. that's unfortunate
AD: Oh well, thank you for your help
AD: Have a nice day

Let's rock it. This is a game. All for one, One for all.
PS: Spamming their chat services now. This feeling is good.

Facebook----m, you youngsters.......................
bad publicity will bring upon very swift change

Just a word of advice, let's be polite, but firmly request our rights (re: the kernel) and show them we're unhappy about their attitude. I seriously doubt the guys in support are to blame for, so let's treat them nicely and hopefully they will escalate.

Samsung has NO customer forums? Really?

I just went to the Samsung site looking for their Customer Forums where could report some bugs in their latest OTA and suggest some improvements.
THERE ARE NONE.
Seriously, a multi-billion dollar company with NO way for their customers to interact, get problems solved or make suggestions. Nothing. It is inconceivable to me that in the year 2012 a company the size of Samsung would be in the stone ages of customer interaction.
Want to know how they get customer feedback? You log on and post a review of the product. That's it! No interaction, no feedback, no idea if anyone even saw what you wrote - you just post a review and pray.
Yeah you can go to Samsung's Facebook page and post something on their wall but that's not a proper forum.
http://www.facebook.com/samsungsupport
I am honestly dumbfounded at this revelation.

They do it on social media. In a pretty big way too.

Surely, in your research of the GN 10.1, you found that out - I did. They do have a question and answer area.
A "rant" is neither productive nor helpful. They don't have forums. Period.

BarryH_GEG said:
They do it on social media. In a pretty big way too.
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Social media is a pathetic replacement for an actual Forum. Lol, can you imagine xda-developers as a Facebook page?
Massive fail Samsung. It's clear from some of the changes they made in the last OTA that they aren't listening to the users.
toenail_flicker said:
A "rant" is neither productive nor helpful. They don't have forums. Period.
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That's probably why they don't have forums. Not enough people ranting. You'll have to forgive me. I didn't research whether Samsung had customer forums. I just assumed they weren't living in 1960.

I am endeavoring to report some bugs on their Facebook page. I have no idea if anyone else has already reported these or if there is follow-up as their "forum" has no apparent structure. Will report back if I get any feedback.

unfortunately yes.
I've been looking for its own forums few years back, and find NONE. :cyclops:
They rather use a facebook page, which we don't know the page is being maintained by who.
But, if you need a fast response, you can try their website, there's a LIVECHAT down there.
Facebook is really a pathetic idea to make it as the main forum of such a big company (in my opinion).
If facebook is being used as an additional media, then yes, it's a good idea.

Time for Mr. Peabody's WABAC Machine
For support: Not a forum and not Facebook.
Samsung needs a Web and Android App accessible Support database.
From 1979 to 2002 I was an IBM Mainframe Systems Programmer at UF in Gainesville Florida, then at the School Board of Alachua County Florida.
I watched large companies like IBM and CA move into the web era with their Support. I moved with them from phone calls and mailing fix tapes to Customer Searchable Databases with user entry for new issues, and with Downloadable Fixes for resolved issues.
Of course, way back then issues for my organization affected 10s of thousands of people where resolving an issue meant dealing with only one person in our organization.
Moving forward to today, we've got 10s of thousands of people and many, many more who all need their individual fixes. Very time consuming compared to dealing with one person.
This is one reason why more and more OTA forced SW updating is happening and why the big companies are pushing cloud computing. Such as Google evolving the Chrome platform; Adobe offering Creative Cloud; and VMWare and IBM competing for hosting Enterprise virtual computers.
Aloha.. Al :highfive:

Is it just me or do 80% of their Facebook Support moderators look like complete burnouts?
If a Forum is too hard for them how about a simple Suggestion Box where users can report bugs directly to the Design Team?
My faith in their meeting future needs with OTA's is greatly diminished. Hopefully they will surprise me.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31024209&postcount=24
You might get more feed back by directing your rants here. :cyclops:

tonyz3 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31024209&postcount=24
You might get more feed back by directing your rants here. :cyclops:
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tonyz3,
I think you should put in an application to work for the Samsung Design Team, you seem like their kind of guy. :cyclops:

They used to have customer Forum. I was a member. They were so heavily censored, that you could say virtually nothing negative.
When the Galaxy S was having GPS issues, a class action suit was initiated about the GPS problem. I posted this fact and my post was edited to eliminate the sentence stating that. My post appeared but the words "Class Action Lawsuit" magically disappeared!
Moderators would actually cut pieces out of your posts before they would appear.
I then tried to send a private message to another forum member about the censorship and they censored and blocked the private messages as well and then sent me a message saying any more communications of that type would get me banned.
I then posted a second time to the main forum complaining that they were censoring negative posts and was in fact banned from the forum. So there isn't much of a point to a Forum where you aren't alowed to communicate.
So perhaps they just decided to institute the ultimate form of censorship and eliminate the forum altogether.

Digital Man said:
They used to have customer Forum. I was a member. They were so heavily censored, that you could say virtually nothing negative.
When the Galaxy S was having GPS issues, a class action suit was initiated about the GPS problem. I posted this fact and my post was edited to eliminate the sentence stating that. My post appeared but the words "Class Action Lawsuit" magically disappeared!
Moderators would actually cut pieces out of your posts before they would appear.
I then tried to send a private message to another forum member about the censorship and they censored and blocked the private messages as well and then sent me a message saying any more communications of that type would get me banned.
I then posted a second time to the main forum complaining that they were censoring negative posts and was in fact banned from the forum. So there isn't much of a point to a Forum where you aren't alowed to communicate.
So perhaps they just decided to institute the ultimate form of censorship and eliminate the forum altogether.
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Oh well, they make nice tablets and if we get the same software as the Note II we will all be happy campers.

mitchellvii said:
Oh well, they make nice tablets and if we get the same software as the Note II we will all be happy campers.
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+1
:highfive:

Let's make a big campaign to get JB's kernel for Atrix!

Hello guys,
Recently Motorola canceled ICS update for Atrix, but i'm wondering: did they started the dev and left middle way, or did nothing at all? If they stopped middle way, we might be able to use they kernel (it's what we need right now), and that would be awesome.
Ofc, Motorola won't release them easily. But what if we ask? What if we make a campaign on social networks and Android websites, and make it really loud? I'm sure i saw this happening for other stuffs, so why not our phone?
My idea is pretty simple:
We setup a hotsite with a simple message and users just have to click on the button referent to his social network to share the campaign. On Twitter, we can mention Motorola's profile, to be sure they are hearing us.
I already have the template ready, and it looks kinda like this: http://takemymoneyhbo.com/tweetit.php
I also have a VPS with Nginx + microcache, PHP-FPM and APC ready to go, so it's able to handle a big spikes of traffic (Digg/Reddit effect). What i need right now is the domain and, ofc, the message to be posted on social networks and on the hotsite itself.
We also would need to think about a name for this campaign (the name of the domain). Like i said, server is ready, template is ready, we only need the messages and a domain, since i can't pay for that at the moment.
As an alternative, we could also use this idea to get JB officially, but i think most of us would install a custom ROM anyway.
List of suggested domains so far:
icanhasdrivers.com
icanhasics.com
retakemotoatrix.com
myphonecanhasICS.com
weonlyneedyourkernel.com
updatemymoto.com (the chosen one)
What do you guys think? Worth doing it? Anyone up to pay for the domain? I will setup a donation button, if anyone is up for paying a domain, just donate
EDIT: The name of the campaign will be Update My Moto! The message for the hotsite and how it looks, can be see here: http://i48.tinypic.com/51eb95.png
As soon as we get the domain, i will close this thread and create a official one for the campaign. Let's rock guys!
Obs: sorry for my English.

might work if you also include other way to file a complaint against moto like via BBB. Motorola might not care about us when we complain to them but moto might care about losing the BBB accreditation. So include other methods like that.

Deafcyclist said:
might work if you also include other way to file a complaint against moto like via BBB. Motorola might not care about us when we complain to them but moto might care about losing the BBB accreditation. So include other methods like that.
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You can count me in on making as much noise as we can on the matter.

I think it is worth trying. I doubt we would succeed. But worth trying anyway.
So all you need is a domain? No hosting account?
What about:
icanhasdrivers.com or icanhasics.com

upndwn4par said:
I think it is worth trying. I doubt we would succeed. But worth trying anyway.
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Why you doubt it will succeed? I can try to get it on Gizmodo and lots of other bug websites, since i myself own a big Ubuntu website at Brazil. I think we can make this get pretty big, and Motorola would end up listening.
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So all you need is a domain? No hosting account?
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Yes. We need to come up with a good name for the campaign and a good domain. I also need someone to pay for the domain, since with all the servers i already pay and other stuffs, i'm pretty much out of money haha
Oh, we also need a message that cause impact.
upndwn4par said:
What about:
icanhasdrivers.com or icanhasics.com
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Added to the suggestion list
Deafcyclist said:
might work if you also include other way to file a complaint against moto like via BBB. Motorola might not care about us when we complain to them but moto might care about losing the BBB accreditation. So include other methods like that.
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What is "BBB"? I'm sorry, don't think i know it. But as long as it have a share-able link, i'm able to add it.

julian_fern said:
Why you doubt it will succeed? I can try to get it on Gizmodo and lots of other bug websites, since i myself own a big Ubuntu website at Brazil. I think we can make this get pretty big, and Motorola would end up listening.
Yes. We need to come up with a good name for the campaign and a good domain. I also need someone to pay for the domain, since with all the servers i already pay and other stuffs, i'm pretty much out of money haha
Oh, we also need a message that cause impact.
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What is "BBB"? I'm sorry, don't think i know it. But as long as it have a share-able link, i'm able to add it.
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"BBB" Stands for the Better Business Bureau. It's a consumer agency that takes complaints and helps direct it at the appropriate place. They work with the company and consumer to resolve the dispute. They cover businesses ranging from carpet cleaning to food to cell phone companies. Some companies tout their high rating with the BBB, like a report card, so they value it staying high.

How about retakemotoatrix.com or nomoremotofail.com

I kinda like the ring to "RetakeMotoAtrix"
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Lugaidster said:
How about retakemotoatrix.com or nomoremotofail.com
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we need to gather more moto users (photon, etc)
myphonecanhasICS
icanhasics.com --> the best so far

Vote me in. I have already tweeted with hashtag #motofail

Anything with "icanhas" it's too meme-ish to be taken seriously, IMO.
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I doubt Motofail will care about all the noise.

http://www.change.org/petitions/motorola-mobility-update-my-phone

I'm sick and tired of these corporations/companies walking all over dedicated customers and getting away with it, so you can count me in as well. Even if we don't succeed, I'd be glad to get back at this lying, backstabbing company with some negative publicity.

I don't think it will work because big corporations are stupid. They look at us and think they have only pissed off a few thousand users. They forget that people like us tend to be tech support/advisers for our friends and family.
I agree with jhonnyx that we will need support from other device groups too. I know the Photon got screwed, but what other devices? It would be helpful to post in their forums as well. This should also not be limited to xda. There are many other forums as well. Maybe once we get a little more organized. This will have to be a huge effort to succeed.
This campaign will also have to be clean and catchy. Nothing related to motofail. Motorola will never draw attention or succumb to anything like this.

Why not motoupgwanted... That way it could be used for more then just us?
All you need is domain? Cost what $10 a year, why not set up donation button I'm sure you can get 20 of us to give .50 cents (cost est)
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I have already submitted the following post in the usual Atrix ICS thread but I thought it would be useful in this tread as well.
"Just wanted to provide another pointer as to why it is possible to take legal actions and possibly criminal prosecution, in countries where it applies, against Google/Motorola. Security fixes, rather the lack of, from GB 2.3.4 to JB 4.0.1. You want to remember the latest security flaw in Android about a crafted web page that can wipe Android phones without a possibility to recover the lost data.
Why Atrix users should be left without the security fixes and how Google will propose a solution?"
Furthermore to what I have said in above I am certain that only a legal campaign will solve this problem, anything else would be waste of energy.
We already have enough valid technical reasons to argue the case but we need members with legal expertise in matters like this. In my opinion launching two legal precedents, one in Europe and the other in USA, would get us to a proper settlement. Please remember this is not really about just Atrix whereas about two corporates that ripped off consumers without a shame in bright day light.

Hey Motorola, just give us the drivers we want, and step away from the Atrix!
Seriously, is that too much to ask?

Count me in.
However, I also don't believe Moto will deliver. But if we can make some bad publicity to them, let's do it. They deserve it.
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Fishmoose said:
Anything with "icanhas" it's too meme-ish to be taken seriously, IMO.
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... I agree.

Im in and also i wrote in the photon forum.
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HTC One US Developers Edition- Software Updates

Hi all,
I thought I would try and start a place for only the US Dev Edition unit where we could house the reponses and issues with updates, delays, etc...
I hope this makes sense and is useful. If not, then if one of the moderators could remove it, please....
I will start by offering the respone I just received from HTC regarding my question around why they could launch the Google Edition with 4.2.2. but still leave the US waiting for the update on the Developers Edition.
I thought buying a "clean" device, paying top dollar, direclty from HTC, with no Carrier involvment would mean timely updates?
I encourage others to post any information about this update or any future ones for this device!
Thank you for contacting the HTC Technical Support Center
We understand how you may be feeling regarding the update process to Jelly Bean 4.2 for the HTC One and we deeply apologize for the delay on this process. We sincerely work hard always on the updates for our customers, since we understand it is important for all of you to have the latest Android OS Versions.
We are always looking forward to develop updates that enhance your HTC experience. Due to the nature of the software development cycle, we may encounter the need to make some changes to ensure everything will work flawlessly, which is why we no longer engage to announce release dates.
We are currently running some tests to make sure the HTC One will function properly with 4.2, so we encourage you to check constantly on our website for further details about the release date. You can also follow us on Facebook or Twitter, where you can easily find the news of our products and also you can share all your concerns with our fans.
We sincerely expect your comprehension on this matter. Thanks for your continuous support of our products and services. Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us through http://www.htc.com/www/contact/email/ or call us at +1-866-449-8358 from 8AM to 1AM, 7 days a week.
Best regards,
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maddie01 said:
Hi all,
I thought I would try and start a place for only the US Dev Edition unit where we could house the reponses and issues with updates, delays, etc...
I hope this makes sense and is useful. If not, then if one of the moderators could remove it, please....
I will start by offering the respone I just received from HTC regarding my question around why they could launch the Google Edition with 4.2.2. but still leave the US waiting for the update on the Developers Edition.
I thought buying a "clean" device, paying top dollar, direclty from HTC, with no Carrier involvment would mean timely updates?
I encourage others to post any information about this update or any future ones for this device!
Thank you for contacting the HTC Technical Support Center
We understand how you may be feeling regarding the update process to Jelly Bean 4.2 for the HTC One and we deeply apologize for the delay on this process. We sincerely work hard always on the updates for our customers, since we understand it is important for all of you to have the latest Android OS Versions.
We are always looking forward to develop updates that enhance your HTC experience. Due to the nature of the software development cycle, we may encounter the need to make some changes to ensure everything will work flawlessly, which is why we no longer engage to announce release dates.
We are currently running some tests to make sure the HTC One will function properly with 4.2, so we encourage you to check constantly on our website for further details about the release date. You can also follow us on Facebook or Twitter, where you can easily find the news of our products and also you can share all your concerns with our fans.
We sincerely expect your comprehension on this matter. Thanks for your continuous support of our products and services. Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us through http://www.htc.com/www/contact/email/ or call us at +1-866-449-8358 from 8AM to 1AM, 7 days a week.
Best regards,
If this answers your comment or question, please click here to complete the process.
To submit another comment, please click here.
Sincerely,
The HTCDev Team
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Ahhh... Nothing like a generic message saying that we're not telling you anything.

same situation
bobruels44 said:
Ahhh... Nothing like a generic message saying that we're not telling you anything.
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I am the in the exact same situation, spent 649 dollars on the HTC One 64 gb. Developer Edition. This
was supposed to be the phone to receive the updates first. I am still sitting here with 4.12 and checking
software updates 20 times a day. Very frustrating to say the least!
CC

Slowwwwly rolling out but not yet to US
cc999 said:
I am the in the exact same situation, spent 649 dollars on the HTC One 64 gb. Developer Edition. This
was supposed to be the phone to receive the updates first. I am still sitting here with 4.12 and checking
software updates 20 times a day. Very frustrating to say the least!
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I agree and I have seen the other posts so I know the Update is slowly being rolled out overseas to the International Versions, but the Google Edition That has 4.2.2 is for sale in the US, so they should have given it to the owners fo the Developers Edition in the US. I will post any additonal information/alerts about any updates in other countries as soon as i hear about it. Thanks for commenting !

sent email
maddie01 said:
I agree and I have seen the other posts so I know the Update is slowly being rolled out overseas to the International Versions, but the Google Edition That has 4.2.2 is for sale in the US, so they should have given it to the owners fo the Developers Edition in the US. I will post any additonal information/alerts about any updates in other countries as soon as i hear about it. Thanks for commenting !
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Well I sent the email to the HTC Tech Support Center. Just received this back, look familiar? NOBODY EVEN READS THESE!
"Thank you for contacting the HTC Technical Support Center
We understand how you may be feeling regarding the update process to Jelly Bean 4.2 for the HTC One and we deeply apologize for the delay on this process. We sincerely work hard always on the updates for our customers, since we understand it is important for all of you to have the latest Android OS Versions.
We are always looking forward to develop updates that enhance your HTC experience. Due to the nature of the software development cycle, we may encounter the need to make some changes to ensure everything will work flawlessly, which is why we no longer engage to announce release dates. Charlie, we are currently running some tests to make sure the HTC One will function properly with 4.2, so we encourage you to check constantly on our website for further details about the release date. You can also follow us on Facebook or Twitter, where you can easily find the news of our products and also you can share all your concerns with our fans.
We sincerely expect your comprehension on this matter. Thanks for your continuous support of our products and services. Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us through http://www.htc.com/www/contact/email/ or call us at +1-866-449-8358 from 8AM to 1AM, 7 days a week. "
CC

This is just a copy and paste reply and replace the name with your name. 4.2.2 is pushed out for International ONE and they are working hard on your developer ONE to make sure you get the HTC worst experience of being a developer.
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cc999 said:
Well I sent the email to the HTC Tech Support Center. Just received this back, look familiar? NOBODY EVEN READS THESE!
"Thank you for contacting the HTC Technical Support Center
We understand how you may be feeling regarding the update process to Jelly Bean 4.2 for the HTC One and we deeply apologize for the delay on this process. We sincerely work hard always on the updates for our customers, since we understand it is important for all of you to have the latest Android OS Versions.
We are always looking forward to develop updates that enhance your HTC experience. Due to the nature of the software development cycle, we may encounter the need to make some changes to ensure everything will work flawlessly, which is why we no longer engage to announce release dates. Charlie, we are currently running some tests to make sure the HTC One will function properly with 4.2, so we encourage you to check constantly on our website for further details about the release date. You can also follow us on Facebook or Twitter, where you can easily find the news of our products and also you can share all your concerns with our fans.
We sincerely expect your comprehension on this matter. Thanks for your continuous support of our products and services. Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us through http://www.htc.com/www/contact/email/ or call us at +1-866-449-8358 from 8AM to 1AM, 7 days a week. "
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Thanks!
One of the things I was hoping to accomplish was to get as many people as possible to send in thier message to; http://www.htcdev.com/...
so that HTC would see the number of frustrated customers. I know that every corporation tracks incoming messages by Subject matter and they review the topics on a regular basis. May not change anything now but there is power in numbers! HTC could use as much positive press as possible right now anyway!

4.2.2 for the us versions will be here within the next few weeks. You will get the update before the carriers at least.
Im sure everyone knows the international for mostly all phones get it first before the united states.

To CC999: (Sorry I replied to the wrong post and got wrong quote)
You aren't alone. I share your sentiment. Could have easily gotten the El Cheapo from ATT but chose to pony up for the DE and now being treated like a guy with the ATT version *shrug*. It makes me feel like these companies like HTC aren't even in tune with the silly little things that potentially keep Android fans happy and loyal...like....timely updates to as recent an OS version as possible??!! About two weeks ago I rooted and flashed Viper One. And Fell in love with my phone all over again. But it's missing the lock screen widget, the instagram blinkfeed and the immediately sharable screenshots...which i actually really miss from my Nexus 4. Also, I desperately need my Zoes to stop saving 2000 still pics with each day out at the park. Sigh. What can ya do....

maddie01 said:
Thanks!
One of the things I was hoping to accomplish was to get as many people as possible to send in thier message to; http://www.htcdev.com/...
so that HTC would see the number of frustrated customers. I know that every corporation tracks incoming messages by Subject matter and they review the topics on a regular basis. May not change anything now but there is power in numbers! HTC could use as much positive press as possible right now anyway!
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You should post this to reddit, I've sent in my email to HTC addressing my concerns with their update process as well, pretty sure I'll get the same bullsh*t message back from them.
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I got a slightly different response:
Thank you for reaching the HTC Tech Support Team with your inquiry, I’m here to make sure all your questions and doubts are cleared.
I comprehend where you're coming from, as I been there before; I certainly know that now days is vital to be up to date when it comes to remain connected/communicated, basically because it is high priority to have a reliable device, nevertheless, as of now, all of the updates are only pushed when the stability of the devices is guaranteed, therefore, it has to be under constant analysis, trials & rewrites among others; only when it has reached nearest point of perfection, which is at our development team's discretion, it's when is send out or pushed to specific devices (such as your HTC One), once again I do acknowledge and understand your perspective on this matter, which is why we greatly appreciate the understanding and patience on this subject.
If you need further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us at http://www.htc.com/us/contact/email/, I’m here to make sure all your questions are addressed in the most efficient way, or if you prefer real time assistance you can reach our customer service line at +1-866-449-8358, 8 am to 1 am ET, 7 days a week.
Thank you for choosing HTC.

If you think about it, HTC was pretty upfront about what they think of US developer editions; our cids start with BS, you should've known that htc would BS about the updates and that the developer edition being special.
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If you think about it, HTC was pretty upfront about what they think of US developer editions; our cids start with BS, you should've known that htc would BS about the updates and that the developer edition being special.
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Haahaa, nice one so we have the Bull [email protected]+ version..I love it...good attitude to have. Hopefully news will start rolling in as it gets released across the US...can always go back to a Custom 4.2.2 until the Stock version is official..Thanks for the laugh.
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Thanks for e-mailing HTC and posting the differenet response....Well at least we know they are not total robots and they can respond in thier own words! Even though they continue to avoid the issue of the Google Edition haivng 4.2.2. as the Dev Edition and the Google Edition are not that different (except Sense and maybe an extra radio?)...still good to keep some pressure on them,

HTC doesn't care much about the pressure that comes from XDA, but get this on the front page of Reddit and the update will be out tomorrow lol.
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cc999 said:
I am the in the exact same situation, spent 649 dollars on the HTC One 64 gb. Developer Edition. This
was supposed to be the phone to receive the updates first. I am still sitting here with 4.12 and checking
software updates 20 times a day. Very frustrating to say the least!
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I'm also frustrated about all of this, but you are making assumptions that are untrue.
Where did you ever hear HTC claim that "This was supposed to be the phone to receive the updates first"? I'm pretty sure the announced purpose of this phone is to be the untouched edition with the bootloader unlockable out of the box, with no possibility for carrier restrictions.
Nowhere did I ever read HTC claim that it would be the first to receive updates, and that's a silly assumption to make. It's a niche version of the phone - sure it's popular here on XDA, but it's a very small drop in the ocean - and I would expect the other versions to receive priority on updates.
At the end of the day, HTC is still a business and they're going to prioritise updates to the versions of the phone that have the largest user base.

Will play around with Reddit tomorrow and see how to go about this. Thanks for the Post...

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Will play around with Reddit tomorrow and see how to go about this. Thanks for the Post...
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Good luck.
I honestly think its bullcrap that they won't release it stateside yet. We had ROMs with 4.2.2 firmware over a month ago and even when they updated WWE units to newer 4.1.2 versions the dev edition didn't get it for weeks.
I'm optimistic but I'd say probably somewhere closer to a week.

I'm 100% sure that the dev edit would get the update after the standard htc one USA unlocked version. Watch!
I don't see any benefits of a dev edit htc one. It's not even s off
In the mean time I keep hitting check for update. I know we close.

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Will play around with Reddit tomorrow and see how to go about this. Thanks for the Post...
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Someone has already posted it to /r/HTCone.
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Alcatel OneTouch's communication with customers

Regarding this reddit post: see attachements, can't post links yet sorry.
It looks like alcatel not only tweaked the camera and the general perfomances but changed alot more on this update. And we do not even know about it because they don't want the changelogs to be public. The guy in question is claiming he saw the changelogs but can't communicate about it.
I don't understand why alcatel would do that, why aren't they telling is what's coming and what's going on. Not even changelogs? Come on.. They're social media is all about self promotion and they don't even answer to actual technical questions.
What do you guys think about it?

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Regarding this reddit post: see attachements, can't post links yet sorry.
It looks like alcatel not only tweaked the camera and the general perfomances but changed alot more on this update. And we do not even know about it because they don't want the changelogs to be public. The guy in question is claiming he saw the changelogs but can't communicate about it.
I don't understand why alcatel would do that, why aren't they telling is what's coming and what's going on. Not even changelogs? Come on.. They're social media is all about self promotion and they don't even answer to actual technical questions.
What do you guys think about it?
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If you go to that Reddit post , you will notice a response there that pretty much answers your question. It is a Chinese company , and lot of this is cultural.

So far I really like the phone, especially for what I paid for it. The only thing I'm worried about us will they update this phone. I still have some time before I have to decide whether or not to keep it or return it. This phone would be a beast with an update and some dev support.
I really wanted the next nexus but in all honesty, with these mid range budget phones makers stepping up their game it's hard to justify spending the extra cash.

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So far I really like the phone, especially for what I paid for it. The only thing I'm worried about us will they update this phone. I still have some time before I have to decide whether or not to keep it or return it. This phone would be a beast with an update and some dev support.
I really wanted the next nexus but in all honesty, with these mid range budget phones makers stepping up their game it's hard to justify spending the extra cash.
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They've had 2 updates to the phone in the less than 2 months the phone has been available to the public. How many updates are you expecting?

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They've had 2 updates to the phone in the less than 2 months the phone has been available to the public. How many updates are you expecting?
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An update to 5.1 would be nice and they haven't really updated anything besides a couple software tweaks. I don't consider that an update, just maintenance.

I 'd like to see them make more responsive fixes to what people are complaining about. I've reached out to them via email and phone several times and it seems as though they don't have a good mechanism to collect feedback. It makes wonder how they decide what bugs exist and how they manage defect priorities. I home someone there is secretly reading these forums.
Their standard fix is to do a full data reset from recovery and to be honest that has fixed issues I've had after both OTA updates. I attribute that to sloppy software devs but then again its a $200 phone that targets markets in other countries.

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Regarding this reddit post: see attachements, can't post links yet sorry.
It looks like alcatel not only tweaked the camera and the general perfomances but changed alot more on this update. And we do not even know about it because they don't want the changelogs to be public. The guy in question is claiming he saw the changelogs but can't communicate about it.
I don't understand why alcatel would do that, why aren't they telling is what's coming and what's going on. Not even changelogs? Come on.. They're social media is all about self promotion and they don't even answer to actual technical questions.
What do you guys think about it?
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Jason from Alcatel posted a changelog for the update in the comments of that thread yesterday:
Hi all. We are listening and thank you guys for voicing your concerns and questions. Supporting our community is obviously very important to us, and that includes making sure we're keeping you informed. We apologize for not making the fixes in this update more apparent. We’ll work to make sure you get this in the future, but here’s what we fixed with the latest IDOL 3 update (see below). We will continue to keep you updated as best we can, but as always, please keep the feedback coming. Your input makes us better.
As part of our dedication to continuous improvement, we have implemented that the below enhancements to improve the overall user experience of IDOL 3, which have been implemented on the following software release: 7SQR-UEQ0
Double-Tap to unlock Improved responsiveness to user double-tap command
Corrected Relative Aperture value (F-Stop) display Images taken with the rear camera now accurately reflect the true f/2.0 aperture
Flash Quality Improved flash quality in low light/dark environments
Incoming call notification Incoming call notifications are now less intrusive during user activity such as playing a game or watching a video
“No Service” while Wi-Fi is enabled Resolved incorrect signal display that sometimes showed no service while in good network coverage when Wi-Fi was enabled
Kill Switch Function Device will no longer show “incorrect password” on the lock screen after an untrusted master reset
Downloading Email apps with no default application Resolved an issue that sometimes caused failed email attachment downloads
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Sounds like they'll be better about communication going forward!

Thanks for posting this. I did notice the correction on the F-Stop in the EXIF - so that is what they were touting as 'Camera Improvements' in the original messaging about the update. This is really not an 'improvement' , is it !

This is example of bad customer support
Dear Bozidar,
We sincerely apologize the inconvenience!
Please contact our repair center to check:
http://www.alcatelonetouch.com/global-en/support/repairStart
Again thank you and have a wonderful day.
Should you have another request, do not hesitate to contact us.
Thank you for choosing Alcatel!
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The following information was collected: Name: Bozidar E-Mail: Subject: Still no updates for Idol 3 5,5 in Serbia Message: Hello! Can you tell me whats the catch! I bought new phone, but no support. Shame. A lot people complains about it. Where is patch for Eastern Europe users? This phone has very serious problem with overheating! Also it is laggy. Double tap to wake doesnt work well. You adressed some of these issues in you patch, but nobody with 6045K didnt get it yet! Please answer! Country:Serbia Product Name:IDOL 3 Support Language: English

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This is example of bad customer support
Dear Bozidar,
We sincerely apologize the inconvenience!
Please contact our repair center to check:
http://www.alcatelonetouch.com/global-en/support/repairStart
Again thank you and have a wonderful day.
Should you have another request, do not hesitate to contact us.
Thank you for choosing Alcatel!
Message:
The following information was collected: Name: Bozidar E-Mail: Subject: Still no updates for Idol 3 5,5 in Serbia Message: Hello! Can you tell me whats the catch! I bought new phone, but no support. Shame. A lot people complains about it. Where is patch for Eastern Europe users? This phone has very serious problem with overheating! Also it is laggy. Double tap to wake doesnt work well. You adressed some of these issues in you patch, but nobody with 6045K didnt get it yet! Please answer! Country:Serbia Product Name:IDOL 3 Support Language: English
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Seems like a automatic answer unfortunately...
Maybe contact them via Facebook ?

yeah, each of my emails detailing performance issues or suggested fixes (complaints) was returned with a suggestion to use recovery to reset to defaults. after that doesnt work the next response to return under RMA for replacement. Their tech support leaves much to be desired.