My wife had a Nook Tablet a while back and I believe it was the 8gb version, but I could be wrong. We had returned it for personal reasons. We are now looking to get her another reader. First off here's a few bits of info:
1. She will be using it primarily as a book reader.
2. She may use some apps but not many.
3. We will not be rooting it.
As far as apps go she will use whatever she can get from the B&N store. With the tablet she had previously she bought some Susan Salon game and the Angry Birds games. She would also use weather apps, Facebook if it's available, and possible Netflix. It comes with a free month of Netflix I believe and she has expressed interest in that, but not sure whether it will be long term or not. She does have a Macbook to use for everything that this device can't.
So with all that said is the performance gain from the dual core processor in the Tablet worth the extra $50 for what she would be using it for?
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My wife had a Nook Tablet a while back and I believe it was the 8gb version, but I could be wrong. We had returned it for personal reasons. We are now looking to get her another reader. First off here's a few bits of info:
1. She will be using it primarily as a book reader.
2. She may use some apps but not many.
3. We will not be rooting it.
As far as apps go she will use whatever she can get from the B&N store. With the tablet she had previously she bought some Susan Salon game and the Angry Birds games. She would also use weather apps, Facebook if it's available, and possible Netflix. It comes with a free month of Netflix I believe and she has expressed interest in that, but not sure whether it will be long term or not. She does have a Macbook to use for everything that this device can't.
So with all that said is the performance gain from the dual core processor in the Tablet worth the extra $50 for what she would be using it for?
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Given how you plan to use it, I would say yes it is worth it.
Yes, the Nook Tablet is definitely better at running video. However, I'm not sure how much better the 8GB Tablet is since it has the dual core processor but only 512MB of RAM. On my 16GB Tablet with the 1GB of RAM the video performance is clearly better and the overall speed just a little faster.
Although you say you will not be rooting I would highly recommend running a bootable SD card on either. The changes to being a real tablet are significant. You are also able to access the Google Play store, Amazon App store and others where there are many more apps than B&N has and you can even find the same ones for free or for as little as 1/4 of the price that you will be charged in the B&N app store.
Books and Magazine subscriptions through B&N are still readable using their Android app. Even if it is mainly for reading and only a few apps are downloaded these and other reasons make using something other than the stock OS highly compelling. Since you can do it from a bootable SD card that leaves the internal Nook OS totally stock why wouldn't you give it a go?
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If you're not going to root it, you're probably asking the wrong forum. This is XDA; the whole purpose of these forums is for development There's plenty of enthusiast sites out there with users more like you.
Get the regular Nook Color. Even if you get the Nook Color with rooting should be sufficient. Nook Color vs Tablet is speed/ram different. Good Luck.
Id like to make a suggestion for the Galaxy Tab 2 7inch model. It's only 250$ like the Tablet and you will get a far more complete tablet/ereader device than the nook tablet/color.
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Id like to make a suggestion for the Galaxy Tab 2 7inch model. It's only 250$ like the Tablet and you will get a far more complete tablet/ereader device than the nook tablet/color.
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Seconded. No working around what B&N think you should be able to access. Ability to access both Google Play Store and Amazon App Store at will. No need to dread OTA updates.
I've got 3 NC and a NT in the family, but am now very happy that I have my own SGT2.
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My wife had a Nook Tablet a while back and I believe it was the 8gb version, but I could be wrong. We had returned it for personal reasons. We are now looking to get her another reader. First off here's a few bits of info:
1. She will be using it primarily as a book reader.
2. She may use some apps but not many.
3. We will not be rooting it.
As far as apps go she will use whatever she can get from the B&N store. With the tablet she had previously she bought some Susan Salon game and the Angry Birds games. She would also use weather apps, Facebook if it's available, and possible Netflix. It comes with a free month of Netflix I believe and she has expressed interest in that, but not sure whether it will be long term or not. She does have a Macbook to use for everything that this device can't.
So with all that said is the performance gain from the dual core processor in the Tablet worth the extra $50 for what she would be using it for?
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Item 1, where do she get the book from? Buying directly from B&N?
If so, get the refurbished NOOKColor, not new one, not Nook Tablet for roughly $100, $120. It will do just that.
I bought a nook color as a fun toy when it came out for me to learn about android and tablets. My wife ran off with it and used it as a reader. The nook color turned her into an e-book enthusiast from a skeptic.
We got her a nook simple for xmas and she is way happier with that. Why are you looking at the tablet instead of the simple w/light if she doesn't use apps much? The simple has a great form factor, no glare screen, and weighs less than half of a color plus GREAT battery life.
I still like my nook color but the batter life is still suboptimal if you are using it as a reader only. I couldn't buy myself a simple because I just like the extra bells and whistles, but for her needs it rocks. Just double check your wife's needs/perspective before you lay down the cash.
my 2 cents
I hope this doesn't side track this thread. Is it as easy to get the tablet to run on a bootable SD as the color is?
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I hope this doesn't side track this thread. Is it as easy to get the tablet to run on a bootable SD as the color is?
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No. The Nook Tablet has a locked bootloader. The devs have found a loophole that makes it work, but it is not as straight forward as the Nook Color. But for the user, it is probably transparent and you would not know the difference.
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I have been wading through the talk about the 1.2 update to get a stock version of Froyo and I don't see any real advantage over the NookieFroyo I am running now (emmc). I saw a video from another thread that showed a 1.2 NC running and some apps didn't load and it doesn't really look like an Android Native. More like a slowly developing B&N OS. Am I missing something?
Obviously there's no point right now as it can't be nootered. So until the developers play with it, there really is no point.
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Obviously there's no point right now as it can't be nootered. So until the developers play with it, there really is no point.
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Beyond that, there isn't much to the 1.2 update over the original with regards to functionality. The market that is now included is dismally scarce of apps; 137 total count as of this post and is actually B&N's own site, not the actual droid market. The overall functionality is still that of the simple ebook reader that the NC is created as in the first place. Rooting it is still the only real way of waking this tablet out of the B&N slumber that has been placed on it in its out-of-the-box form.
It will eventually be with it.
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Obviously there's no point right now as it can't be nootered. So until the developers play with it, there really is no point.
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That was my thought exactly. Even if it gets rooted, it doesn't look like it will have the cool "status bar" with the back and home natively working. Until something like that comes along for the B&N OS, I think I will stay NookieFroyo for now.
My question would be does the market work? I keep seeing the BN Apps but nothing to indicate if the Market is functional or included.
When my DroidX went from 2.1 to 2.2 I was expecting WOW with all the anticipation and hype, but the reality is that outside of flash support, there was nothing worth upgrading for. It's as exciting as upgrading Windows XP from service pack 1 to service pack 2 but less exciting than going to service pack 3.
So if you already have a rooted stock NC, upgrading to 2.2 won't really make much of a difference to you other than flash which in many cases means less flash based ads. But heck, we are hackers and what's the point of the NC if you can't hack it again and again when new releases come out. Otherwise it would be like buying a puzzle, solving it and not having an opportunity to start over with new pieces. Get though this one and I'm sure B&N will have the 2.2.1 upgrade in a few months and we can do this again, woohooo!
flash is about the only thing i see that makes the update worth it.
raze
oh yeah and the overhauled JIT complier should speed up things for our non rooted brethren. Stock software gives the only advantage of newspapers and magazines.
Ill rock the new stock. since the buying the nook for android reasons mostly I have found myself reading agian and have a few magazine subscriptions.
I'm glad for the new kernel, can't wait for dalingrin to play with it
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I'm glad for the new kernel, can't wait for dalingrin to play with it
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Exactly =D.
It seems (to me anyway) that flash runs quite a bit better on 1.2 (vs the ROMs I've tried). I hope we can see the same results with some ROMs
I've had Unrooted Stock since day one. Instead I run CM7 from my 4gb Class 6 SD. It runs well and, thanks to it, I've had the best of both worlds.
I've played with the update a bit today and I'll have to agree that for Rooters until 1.2 is Rooted it's not worth it, but for the None Techie this Update is great as it enables New NookBook and KidsBook features and it gives them Apps and Flash. So it's up to you whether you update or not.
Either way this Update makes life easier for Devs as they'll have an Official Stable 2.2 kernal for the Nook to work from, and other helpful additions. Good Luck Guys
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B&N will never make the nook like a normal tablet. They need to preserve the market space it occupies as an eReader with extras, not a tablet that can be an eReader.
If you are running stock, then its a decent upgrade. Otherwise, its just refinement for the system.
I updated since I just run CM7 off an 8gb card. What I have to say really annoyed me is the pricing of the apps. Take angry birds for example. In the Android Market its free. On the itunes appstore its either 99¢ or $1.99, I can't remember. But in the Nook Color appstore its $2.99. Other apps are similarly priced. I see BN upping the price on more apps that would normally be free or cheap.
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I just bought a nook at lunch today, planning on rooting it tonight (I recently rooted my Samsung Epic happily, and when figuring out to do that I read about rooting nooks). So during the afternoon at the office, I got an email from ZDNet raving about the upgrade, how it turned the Nook into a Real Android Tablet. so I thought, well, maybe I should just do this instead of rooting it. So I downloaded the zip file, and once the Nook was charged I ran the upgrade, which went fine. But I see now that the upgrade is pretty much a waste of time, no comparison to the features of a rooted nook, and it is currently unrootable.
There are quite a few posts here about restoring a nook to stock, but I am not sure if they apply to 1.2. What is the best method of restoring my 1.2 to 1.1, then rooting?
If you have stock, simply force the reboot 8 times, and the Nook will return to stock 1.1 for you (rather than the 1.2).
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I updated since I just run CM7 off an 8gb card. What I have to say really annoyed me is the pricing of the apps. Take angry birds for example. In the Android Market its free. On the itunes appstore its either 99¢ or $1.99, I can't remember. But in the Nook Color appstore its $2.99. Other apps are similarly priced. I see BN upping the price on more apps that would normally be free or cheap.
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B&N aren't allowing any Ad supported Apps in their store so Devs have to makeup with pricing. On top of that, the Angrybirds is the more expensive HD version. So, at least for Angrybirds, the pricing makes sense. Unfortunately, the lack of Ad support means that most likely there won't be that many free Apps on the Nook Store since Devs need to get money somehow.
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I just installed 1.2 and downloaded angry birds. It will not install. Tried numerous times. GRRRRR!!!
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I just installed 1.2 and downloaded angry birds. It will not install. Tried numerous times. GRRRRR!!!
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The Fix is to remove your SD card then install. B&N should fix that because this Fix isn't obvious to most people.
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Hey all I'm in the tablet market with about $300.. I'm trying to make sure the NC is the best choice for me before I go buy one.
I want to play Droid games, watch movies, read books and get good support for my device.
Is there any other tablets in my price range I should be considering other than the NC?
Also can a new NC be rooted and booted right off the showroom floor purchased new?
Thanks for the replies!
Well, yes, there are other tablets in the 250-350 range. Is your 300 a hard number? I flexed it up and down by 50 dollars.
NC can be rooted fairly quickly. I actually looked online here for a few days before I bought mine and knew what to do off the bat. I knew to buy a couple 4 gb disks, what I didn't realize is I needed sandisk branded ones.
So for what you're going to be doing get some sandisk 4 gb discs, prob 2, and get a larger one or two (16 or 32) for a alternate boot for cm7, sandisk of course.
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Well, yes, there are other tablets in the 250-350 range. Is your 300 a hard number? I flexed it up and down by 50 dollars.
NC can be rooted fairly quickly. I actually looked online here for a few days before I bought mine and knew what to do off the bat. I knew to buy a couple 4 gb disks, what I didn't realize is I needed sandisk branded ones.
So for what you're going to be doing get some sandisk 4 gb discs, prob 2, and get a larger one or two (16 or 32) for a alternate boot for cm7, sandisk of course.
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So in your opinion is there an easier device to use thats as supported? My $300 range isn't really a hard number.. I'd love a Transformer - but thats over doing it.
I've considered the Viewsonic Gtab cause a friend has one.. but not sure at this point which road to travel.
Easier to use?
I mean, if we're talking out of the box. Nook is the worst tablet out there because the e-reader and functionality sucks.
After getting CM7, it's pretty nice but that takes about an hour to do.
Once you root the Nook and put CM on it, it becomes golden.
Nook Color Gaming
There's gaming for you. For what you are looking for, you can't go wrong with the NC. It just depends on if you are willing to take the time to optimize it.
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Granted that reminds me of the imei problem with nooks. I guess that's something else to consider. Re: gameloft stuff and a few other programs here and there.
,I agree with iammarino...the nookcolor is pretty sweet once you root it. Cm7... if u want to watch movies I have found the easiest and nicest way is to install Netflix...
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Granted that reminds me of the imei problem with nooks. I guess that's something else to consider. Re: gameloft stuff and a few other programs here and there.
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But with my IMEI Generator program... that becomes nothing to worry about.
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But with my IMEI Generator program... that becomes nothing to worry about.
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true and there are work arounds about other issues like setting model to htc/vision, probably could do htc/flyer and be a bit more accurate with another 7 inch table in regards to market.
talk2nate said:
Hey all I'm in the tablet market with about $300.. I'm trying to make sure the NC is the best choice for me before I go buy one.
I want to play Droid games, watch movies, read books and get good support for my device.
Is there any other tablets in my price range I should be considering other than the NC?
Also can a new NC be rooted and booted right off the showroom floor purchased new?
Thanks for the replies!
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I love my NC. I'm running CM7 off an SD card, and I've used Dizzy's IMEI program so now I have that working too. There are a number of things you can do to make the NC experience very fulfilling. And at 250 new, ~200 refurb, that leaves you a bunch of extra dollars for playing and extra kit (sdcards, case, etc.)
Having said that though, it really depends on your personality and the amount of time you have to tweak the NC to fully bring out it's capabilities. You can now get a refurb Samsung Galaxy Tab (carrier version, not Wifi-only one) within your budget and have vendor supported Gingerbread out of the box, IMEI is solved due to being a carrier edition, slightly better stock hardware without needing to overclock, camera and GPS.
If I had to do it all over again, I would personally still pick the NC simply because I have the time and inclination to play and tweak. But do you?
I have a question that is eating at me to no end. Every android device (this is my 6th) I've rooted. I tried to use the devices without root and hesitated somewhat to do so, but rooting was inevitable with all of them.
I just received (from a lovely wife) a Nook Color for my birthday. I intend to use this solely as an e-reader. In that, I also like to diversify my e-book collection by using multiple providers (you can see where this is going, I'm sure). I would really like to be able to use B&N, Amazon, and Google Books to download content.
However... I've seen that there are a few things that don't work as they should after rooting. I'm not sure I'm willing to live with that.
After all of that said, how many of you have the same intentions I have? How many of you intend to use this as an e-reader and an e-reader only? I ask because I've seen several threads discussing different uses that clearly go beyond what the device was intended to do. Don't get me wrong. I'm not knocking what you are doing. I'm only trying to find out if these additional functions (I also believe in the beauty of open source;-)) serve as additional incentive for you guys to root. If this is the case, is using it as a multi-provider e-reader enough incentive to root? Is is enough incentive to "suffer" with what does not work after rooting?
Please chime in! Thank you for you input. I would really like to root this thing, but I just want to make sure it's worth the hassle.
93 views and no one has an opinion? Is everyone using this device as everything but an e-reader? At least tell me it is a dumb question if you think that.
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Pretty much everyone here uses the nook as a full android tablet that also reads books. I use CM7 myself and i would have never bought the nook if it didn't have any custom roms. I do not know any negatives to rooting the stock OS as I never used it. I would say go for it and if you don't like it you can go back to stock in <5 minutes.
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I'm probably the only one here that recently changed my configuration.
I've been a NC user with CM7 nightly builds installed to the emmc (that's right a bold user willing to risk a brik).
However, over time I'd had the opportunity to pickup another tab for the geek (HP Touchpad for that oh so low price).
Since the Nook Color is now really being used as a e-reader only again (with a few Apps from the BN app store), I've restored it to stock with the 1.3 update.
No root, nothing except a blank SD card for extra content.
The BN stock Nook reader software is night and day in terms of stability and performance in comparison to the "Nook for Android" application. It doensn't have that cool page turn animation, but why does the "Android" app pale in comparison when both technically are Android apps?
Granted, I don't have Amazon or Google book content access any longer, but I can use them on the other tab if I desire. But I've been finding that I prefer to purchase my books on BN and Amazon/Google vendors have only gotten my "Free" book purchases in the past.
I can also get my enhanced books again.
If BN decides it needs to add some services to help compete with the forth coming Amazon Tab, like video and audio rentals/purchases, you might see official support for NetFlix or Hulu as a counter. Reason is that BN would need to build that infrastructure, but providing NetFlix or Hulu Plus might be good enough to compete with Amazon Prime.
I really do like my NC again on stock. Without another tab to root/mod, I'd still be on CM7 (the beauty is I'm watching the CM7 development for the HP, so soon).
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I just received (from a lovely wife) a Nook Color for my birthday. I intend to use this solely as an e-reader. In that, I also like to diversify my e-book collection by using multiple providers (you can see where this is going, I'm sure). I would really like to be able to use B&N, Amazon, and Google Books to download content.
However... I've seen that there are a few things that don't work as they should after rooting. I'm not sure I'm willing to live with that.
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I've had my NC for about six months, and have used rooted stock (versions 1.01, 1.1, and 1.2) and am now almost exclusively using CM7 on the SD card. I use it for a lot more than an e-reader, but I do read a lot on it.
1) The stock reader software is much nicer than any Android reader apps out there. That was why I stuck with the stock software for so long.
2) I don't know of anything that's working on an unrooted Nook that is broken by rooting. Can you elaborate on what you meant by that?
3) If you really want to have an ebook collection that isn't dependent on a single vendor, you should look into Calibre and the tools that are available to strip DRM from books you buy. Then you can buy a book from, say, Amazon, strip the DRM, load it into Calibre, and convert it to any format you wish. This involves a bit of work on the PC side, so you're not able to just download directly to the reader, but it's one way to keep your stock unrooted Nook and still use Google or Amazon to buy books. And it means you'll always be able to read those books, not just when Amazon or Google or B&N decides you can.
I've been running rooted stock 99% of the time since I got the device. I did hammer it very early on (I think I tried installing one of the SD-card targeted froyo builds to emmc) and just so I could at least fiddle, ran the honeycomb off sdcard for a look. I've run cm7 and miui off sdcard, but I've never liked the alternate roms more than I like the stock, enough to flash them to emmc and certainly not enough to run them as daily drivers off of sdcards, since then my sdcard slot is obliged to be full.
I'm not clear on what, in the current rooted stock, isn't working that the OP refers to. For me, all the stock apps work fine, and I have access to Netflix and the free fridays books.
My preferred reader is fbreader - I like true night mode and landcape, and I have no problems with that reader crashing.
I would rather use the Nook for Android app, for the same reason that I like fbreader and for the additional benefit of very simple cross-device sync. I also have an ST, and am using fbsync and fbreader on both in conjunction with Tasker to sync reading positions.
I'm very unimpressed with the 1.3 firmware. In my hands, the device is more sluggish when running it than when running 1.2, but I know there are some folks that it helped to have (networking issues in 1.2.)
But overall, I can't think of anything that doesn't work on rooted stock that does work on vanilla stock, so more input on that would be helpful.
The only thing I'm aware of that doesn't work on rooted stock is the reading now button. I haven't tried the latest enhanced books for 1.3 yet, but everything else I've tested successfully.
My family has 3 nooks - my wife and me, plus my mom. My mom is a voracious reader and has literally read at least 100 books since Mother's Day. I offered to turn it back to stock for her, but she told me that there just a handful of android apps (not available through B&N) that she wants to keep. So she stays rooted.
For my wife, she's a big reader too (not as much as mom) but she has more than a handful of apps she wants, particularly a host of free games from either the market or android appstore, so she stays on rooted stock. Both have zero complaints. Both are also overclocked to 1200 using Dalingrin's OC kernel.
For me, I've been toying with CM7 on sd card for about 2 months now. I love how smooth it runs and I'm extremely satisfied with it. My only knock is the reader. As others have said, the stock nook reader is still the best, although both fbreader and moon reader are very good as well. I'm probably 50/50 on reading vs other stuff on my nook.
Thanks for all of your replies! I saw somewhere (I believe the ManualNooter thread) that there might be crashes with apps that required imei (forgive spelling). I have no idea what apps might require that. I went ahead and took the plunge. So far I like it! I have not figured out how to turn off gmail email sync yet, but I really like being able to access books from all three major providers!
Thank you all for your input!
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Perknite, also take a look at using Calibre for book management, and the tools for managing the security of your ebooks discussed at apprenticealf.wordpress.com.
You can read books from each of the vendors both on your computer and in any app you like on the NC, if you configure the tools and have the computer app from the vendor plus a program called Calibre on the PC.
I used to do a lot of this manually, and recently learned that Calibre will do huge amounts of it automatically if it has access to the install data from BN and Amazon.
Information security is a triangle: availability, confidentiality, integrity. DRM breaks your control over availability and integrity in order to deliver confidentiality - not to you, but to the vendor of your files. The tools discussed in the Apprentice Alf blog let you manage the availability and integrity of your data for yourself. You owe it to your ebook vendors to maintain confidentiality -- but you owed them that to start with, and it was in the agreement as you purchased the books.
Hey everyone,
So I'm taking online classes for web design and new media, and it deals a lot with online reading, video watching and I have to do my assignments on my Macbook pro.
I was thinking of getting a tablet that will allow me to read my text books easier and watch my instructor videos while I work on my laptop. I know it only has 8GB's of storage, but I would only load in one week's worth of video at at time that can equal up to about 100+MB total (or use my Mac as a media server and just stream it).
I don't think a 10" tablet is the way to go for me, because I want something a bit more portable and obviously low cost with a quality build. So I came across the Fire and did my research, I feel like I'm sold on it and I come here to get your opinions on it too.
I've had an iPad before, it's cool, heavy and large.
How's the email experience?
Does the browser support flash and how is the browsing experience?
Can I download the Dolphin Browser on this? Or is the default browser better then Dolphin?
I appreciate your thoughts and opinions.
From what you describe, the Fire should be a good fit for your requirements. It supports flash, the native email app is adequate,
And it will run Dolphin browser.
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The dolphin browser doesn't show up on the stock market. I bought the Kindle because I can mess around with flashing custom ROMs. If that's not your thing I'd suggest looking at the Blackberry Playbook. More storage and better stock experience I believe. There is supposed to be an update this month to add an email client. Not sure if there's a different one in their market.
Well I got the KF not too long ago (maybe 2 weeks) but I think its a solid device. Email is fine on it, but i'm sure if you don't like it, you could side load others. The device has flash in the browser and you can side load just about any browser as long as you have the APK. The default is okay. I prefer either dolphin or opera though.
Well the devices specs say it has 8GBs but you will only be about to use about 5. It sets different storage for different things. 1gb for applications 5gbs for sd storage. You can put your media on the amazon cloud though and stream it.
You could go for the New Nook. I believe it has 16 Gigs internal with an SD card slot. as well as a gig of RAM. I'm not too sure on its stock performance, but there's a forum for it on this site, so i'm sure it can be rooted.
In my personal experiences with the KF, I have had no problem with it and I really love the screen. The glare can be a downside, but if you plan on using services from amazon go ahead and get it. If not, you could always root+recov and run cm7.
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Well I got the KF not too long ago (maybe 2 weeks) but I think its a solid device. Email is fine on it, but i'm sure if you don't like it, you could side load others. The device has flash in the browser and you can side load just about any browser as long as you have the APK. The default is okay. I prefer either dolphin or opera though.
Well the devices specs say it has 8GBs but you will only be about to use about 5. It sets different storage for different things. 1gb for applications 5gbs for sd storage. You can put your media on the amazon cloud though and stream it.
You could go for the New Nook. I believe it has 16 Gigs internal with an SD card slot. as well as a gig of RAM. I'm not too sure on its stock performance, but there's a forum for it on this site, so i'm sure it can be rooted.
In my personal experiences with the KF, I have had no problem with it and I really love the screen. The glare can be a downside, but if you plan on using services from amazon go ahead and get it. If not, you could always root+recov and run cm7.
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Thank you all for your comments! And yes, I do have an amazon credit account and regular account, so that's definitely something to add to the pro's. I was thinking of flashing it, but for my purposes, I think the stock OS will do just fine. How much cloud storage do you get? I already have the 5Gig free, but do I get any additional storage with it?
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I already have the 5Gig free, but do I get any additional storage with it?
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I believe all amazon related data (like books or amazon mp3) is unlimited. But anything else is capped at 5gigs. Not 100% sure though
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I believe all amazon related data (like books or amazon mp3) is unlimited. But anything else is capped at 5gigs. Not 100% sure though
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it only stores amazon stuff and its a dollar a gig beyond 5
What the Amazon app store doesn't have I get at 1Mobile Market and getjar. 1Mobile seems to get the updates more regulary then getJar though. They have Dolphin HD which works better then stock IMO, along with drop box, and box. Which is 5gb free each with those. Box had a free 50gb promo awhile back which i was able to get in on. Not sure if they are still doing it though. I run stock and they all loaded easily through the 1Mobile app. I also got the facebook and twitter apps from there as well and have no complaints so far.
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There's a low-key special going on right now at Walmart - buy a Kindle Fire for $199 and get a $50 Walmart card. So, in effect, you're paying $149 for the Fire. I don't how much longer it's going on, but that's a great deal.
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I would get the kindle fire
The fire is a great pick and any app can be loaded from a Pc transfer if you choose not to root.
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What do you think of the Seagate Wireless HD device? They have a 500GB unit with a wireless radio that should allow you to stream or access your files from the kindle fire.
Just wanted to know if you guys are still rooting for Barnes & Noble and it's product development efforts.
Check Engadget's hands-on videos here:
Nook HD
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/26/barnes-and-nobles-nook-hd-7-inch-android-tablet-hands-on-video
Nook HD+
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/26/barnes-and-noble-announces-nook-hd-9-inch-tablet-we-go-hands-on/
I personally thinking about getting the Nook HD which looks really great... but then again, the Nexus 7 has a front-facing camera. I'm still thinking about it.
Looks awesome, if you're a tinkerer. Assuming it's rootable and there are good ROMs for it. I don't think it's going to do so well with the average consumer though. B&N just doesn't have the clout to provide the best user experience. The price alone is pretty compelling though. Yes, having no camera is sad, how often do you really use it though? Plus the Nook has an SD Card slot which is so cherished by many.
I'm considering purchasing my first tablet, and I'm on the fence between the Nook HD+ and the Kindle Fire HD 8.9. The biggest influencing factor for me is how much/often it gets quality ROM releases, which is impossible to predict. If I knew the Nook would get good ROMs, the price would be the deciding factor. I would jump on it instantly. Right now I'm leaning toward the Nook, and hoping the ROMs will come.
The HD+ looks great! Lets hope for an unlocked bootloader. the $269 for a 16GB model makes it a winner in the 9" category.
{I do hope that they 'll make available to European buyers this time}
Pluses for me:
1) Price - both the HD and HD+
2) Relatively light weight
3) Expandable micro-SD storage
Minuses:
1) (and a big one) proprietary connector!
2) +/- locked bootloader (probably like Nook Tablet). Not impossible to work around, just harder.
Lack of front-facing camera (on the HD+ especially) is a meh for me. Would make sense if the Nooks had a built-in Skype-style app.
Just my $0.02.
New BN Tablets
A Mighty "Hooray"!!!
I actually cannot believe that my long wait for an affordable HD tablet with an 8.9 (actually 9 inch) screen is now here courtesy of BN!
Having a screen that was the size equivalent of a "trade paper (back)" has always been my goal for both reading and video purposes.
Under $300., with excellent performance stats, and with at least ICS 4.0 makes my mouth water. No camera is simply not an issue for me and with my Galaxy Nexus, tethering is a breeze for those few times when I might need cellular access.
I cannot imagine what a rooted version with JB would be like. I would want at bare minimum to have this be dual bootable, especially in light of the "potential" of the new BN video service.
Of course one needs to see some thorough reviews first but this is the first unit to meet all of my internalized criteria to move me off of my original and rooted (dual boot) NC. Hardware "dreams" can all too frequently become major disappointments!
I am currently running both 1.4.2 and CM 7.2 with both dual booted from the internal eMMc. I do almost all of my book reading with it. It is a tolerable form to use (size wise) in terms of my personal reading experience (also video). Have never liked it for magazine viewing or browsing.
9.7-10.1 have always been larger than I wanted to tote around and this new HD+ now has nailed my personal "sweetspot"!
Looking forward to seeing how it performs in the real world and how quickly it can be rooted and modified.
I was just getting ready to step up tot he table when I saw the emails today.
Now I just don't know, I think I will wait and see if it can be rooted. I use my Kindle app way too often
to not have it anymore. My rooted Nook Color will have to suffice, I'm sure that the devs will get on this one soon!
I don't want to give up my Nook Color case though! LOL
It has the same weak point as the previous Nooks (which I have been happy with for 2 years)
How hard is it to add a Microphone (for Skype, Free Phone Calls, Voice Search etc)?
That would make it perfect, without a need for another device.
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Minuses:
1) (and a big one) proprietary connector!
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B&N claims the proprietary connector lets the tablet charge faster, if that eases your conscience. But we all know it's just a way to get people to spend on accessories.
my only qualms is the lack of a camera....
if they are truly trying to target Amazon and try to compete they need to include a Camera on the tablet at least....not necessarily the HD but c'mon...9" tab without a camera....a lot of people won't buy it simple because of that...i'm not one of those people but it still will deter customers...
other than that...price and looks and specs are all top notch imo and if i do upgrade to a bigger tablet i will probably go with the HD+
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B&N claims the proprietary connector lets the tablet charge faster, if that eases your conscience. But we all know it's just a way to get people to spend on accessories.
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The only positive of this one is that the previous super-duper multipin connector broke so easily that heck, I'm happy to try another type of connector if it actually might not break off after a few weeks of use.
Overall though...if the boot loader can be cracked (presuming there is one, which I suspect there will be since B&N just doesn't get they'd be a lot better off incentivizing people to buy product rather than attempting to force them to when they just don't have the inventory to compete) $299 for a 32 GB 256 DPI is somewhat ridiculous. Glad I haven't bitten on the Nexus 7, and we'll have to see how the big Kindle with the small data plan looks, but B&N may have just done it again on the performance/price point game even if this is never going to appeal to the plug it in and turn it on market.
What's a chance of this thing getting a CM10? I want a good high res 9inch android tablet with sd slot for a while now. Well I would prefer SDXC over microSD though. If this one have lock bootloader, then what can we expect? Decrapified ICS maybe?
Bluetooth?
Anyone know if any of the new Nooks have BT - seems that they will be missing a lot if they do not. Samsung, IPad, Google, etc. mostly all have Bluetooth.
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Anyone know if any of the new Nooks have BT - seems that they will be missing a lot if they do not. Samsung, IPad, Google, etc. mostly all have Bluetooth.
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Many sources I found are saying that they do indeed have bluetooth.
Unless you had developers mad scrambling to code up a new locked bootloader, I would assume the new nook tablet HD will come with the same bootloader as the one on the nook tablet that is already out now, which has the bootloader already cracked. If that is the case then it would be ready for customizing with a custom firmware as soon as it is released.
From the way some of the developers are working away with the cyanoboot app for the nook tablet I would assume the new nook tablet HD will come with the same bootloader, their has been lots of activity up in the nook tablet XDA forums recently with that app.
I am seriously thinking of getting the new nook tablet HD when it comes out here in a few months just for the hardware specs.
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If you guys want to try to get cyanogenmod endorsed for this upcoming device I made a few threads up in the cyanogenmod forums at these links here you should start bumping. http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/59466-nook-tablet-discussion-thread/
And this thread here too. http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/59468-request-cm-10-and-cm-11-for-the-nook-tablet/
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Bumping those threads over in cyanogenmod showing some interest in getting a forum up for the nook tablet and the new nook tablet HD would help get things rolling for this new device. I feel this new nook tablet HD has lots of potential with others helping out to become the next new device to develop on, like how the nook color took off last year.
Who doesn't love car analogies?
I'm guessing u-boot (the bootloader) on the Nook HD will be locked down, just as the NT was, and that they will have made bauwks' hack impossible. I think the security tends to improve (from their point of view) with each iteration, so I assume bauwks' bootloader bug-fix will have been undone.
I happen to believe the N7 is a far, FAR superior tablet option for just about everyone. IMO, the Nook and KFire are a bit like selling you a sports car with the tires removed and brake pedal welded down and marketing it as a four seat, five-speaker CD-player (that only plays BN and Amazon CDs). And Amazon's "radio" plays ads when you turn it on.
This is the reason I've never bought (indeed, never used) a NookTablet, and have no intention of buying or using a locked KFire either. I find the artificial restriction to use the product to its full capability to be extremely condescending and cynical to the customer. And I see the locked bootloader as a major design flaw. Yes, Amazon and BN need have to have a business model to make money, and I support their right to do so. But notice that Google actually trusts its customers -- even encourages them-- to experiment and push the boundries of what they think you can do with YOUR computer that you bought with YOUR money. It's almost like Google actually believe in themselves as a company... trusting that they have a good software experience and content offerings that beat the competition. And they may be right. Because, it's funny-- with all the hackers out there, I haven't yet heard of any N7 (or any device) owner who elected to "close down" their tablets with an effort to try to run BN's or Amazon's OS so they can experience the fully-limited, tightly-controlled e-book experience.
Anyway, the above is just my opinion at the moment. Who knows, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised and the Nook HDs will be unlocked... but I doubt it.
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Unless you had developers mad scrambling to code up a new locked bootloader, I would assume the new nook tablet HD will come with the same bootloader as the one on the nook tablet that is already out now, which has the bootloader already cracked. If that is the case then it would be ready for customizing with a custom firmware as soon as it is released.
From the way some of the developers are working away with the cyanoboot app for the nook tablet I would assume the new nook tablet HD will come with the same bootloader, their has been lots of activity up in the nook tablet XDA forums recently with that app.
I am seriously thinking of getting the new nook tablet HD when it comes out here in a few months just for the hardware specs.
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If you guys want to try to get cyanogenmod endorsed for this upcoming device I made a few threads up in the cyanogenmod forums at these links here you should start bumping. http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/59466-nook-tablet-discussion-thread/
And this thread here too. http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/59468-request-cm-10-and-cm-11-for-the-nook-tablet/
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Bumping those threads over in cyanogenmod showing some interest in getting a forum up for the nook tablet and the new nook tablet HD would help get things rolling for this new device. I feel this new nook tablet HD has lots of potential with others helping out to become the next new device to develop on, like how the nook color took off last year.
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Fattire just erased all my doubts about getting the N7. My mind's made up! I'll go and get the N7!!!
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fattire said:
I'm guessing u-boot (the bootloader) on the Nook HD will be locked down, just as the NT was, and that they will have made bauwks' hack impossible. I think the security tends to improve (from their point of view) with each iteration, so I assume bauwks' bootloader bug-fix will have been undone.
I happen to believe the N7 is a far, FAR superior tablet option for just about everyone. IMO, the Nook and KFire are a bit like selling you a sports car with the tires removed and brake pedal welded down and marketing it as a four seat, five-speaker CD-player (that only plays BN and Amazon CDs). And Amazon's "radio" plays ads when you turn it on.
This is the reason I've never bought (indeed, never used) a NookTablet, and have no intention of buying or using a locked KFire either. I find the artificial restriction to use the product to its full capability to be extremely condescending and cynical to the customer. And I see the locked bootloader as a major design flaw. Yes, Amazon and BN need have to have a business model to make money, and I support their right to do so. But notice that Google actually trusts its customers -- even encourages them-- to experiment and push the boundries of what they think you can do with YOUR computer that you bought with YOUR money. It's almost like Google actually believe in themselves as a company... trusting that they have a good software experience and content offerings that beat the competition. And they may be right. Because, it's funny-- with all the hackers out there, I haven't yet heard of any N7 (or any device) owner who elected to "close down" their tablets with an effort to try to run BN's or Amazon's OS so they can experience the fully-limited, tightly-controlled e-book experience.
Anyway, the above is just my opinion at the moment. Who knows, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised and the Nook HDs will be unlocked... but I doubt it.
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Well spoken. The only thing that holds me back from getting a Nexus though is the limited storage space. But others might not be so picky on storage. I just love the additional storage space on the nook series and that they give you that microSD slot. 64 GB storage on top of the 8 GB on the nook color I have right now.
I am the kind of kid that needs at least 100 full music albums and 20 or so more movies on the go, and riding on the school bus does not supply wifi for that cloud of theirs. Yet I know I am the minority. Give me moar storage, lol. I know lots of others living in rural areas and/or traveling in parts of the world not covered by wi-fi also find that extra storage given by the included microSD card slot is a must have. And that is TONS of people.
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So nexus 7 is also trying to shut out a part of their business to others by limiting storage on their top devices, and not including an internal storage slot. I am sure they know that or they would of released a device to include more additional storage for others.
Thanks for helping develop for us in any case <fattire> I hope to see you develop on the nook tablet too. { Non cynical comment of course }
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You are right on that locked boot-loader, did not think of that. I am sure they will submit a patch on that locked boot-loader to defeat that hack. Such a shame. There might be some tablet being developed right now by Google that will give others the option to add storage and the newest android builds, I just do not understand why its taking so long or if they are deliberately holding back on releasing such of a device to force others into "cloud" use. I am sure it does not cost that much to implement that hardware on a device, I would buy it even at a few dollars more.
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Anyone know if any of the new Nooks have BT - seems that they will be missing a lot if they do not. Samsung, IPad, Google, etc. mostly all have Bluetooth.
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Yes, it will have Bluetooth. Here is a specs list straight from B&N, LINK, section 1.2 - 1.5 is all most people will care about.
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There might be some tablet being developed right now by Google that will give others the option to add storage and the newest android builds, I just do not understand why its taking so long or if they are deliberately holding back on releasing such of a device to force others into "cloud" use. I am sure it does not cost that much to implement that hardware on a device, I would buy it even at a few dollars more.
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I believe it's the 2nd one. Google purposely trying to force customer to use cloud storage. The problem here is that we also have greedy telecom on the other side that will nickle and dime your for every GB if they could and they have no incentive to improve their network capacity & coverage. We also have a weak FCC that don't do much. FCC should have done away with itself license spectrum and force the telecom to be a dumb pipe and every one just be like MVNO. That way we end up w/ more competitive market rather than oligopoly market. Sure if we have affordable unlimited LTE everywhere right now, then cloud storage make a lot of sense. And that if we aren't gonna saturate the bandwidth. Imagine even if everyone pulling movies and music over the LTE network in metropolitan area, the network would suck so hard that everyone will be pulling less than 1mbps. I don't think Google will have a new tablet anytime soon or w/ removable storage for that matter. Not until google realize that they are fighting with the wireless telecom and they have to be a telecom themself.
doubtful
meteorrock said:
Unless you had developers mad scrambling to code up a new locked bootloader, I would assume the new nook tablet HD will come with the same bootloader as the one on the nook tablet that is already out now, which has the bootloader already cracked. If that is the case then it would be ready for customizing with a custom firmware as soon as it is released.
From the way some of the developers are working away with the cyanoboot app for the nook tablet I would assume the new nook tablet HD will come with the same bootloader, their has been lots of activity up in the nook tablet XDA forums recently with that app.
I am seriously thinking of getting the new nook tablet HD when it comes out here in a few months just for the hardware specs.
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If you guys want to try to get cyanogenmod endorsed for this upcoming device I made a few threads up in the cyanogenmod forums at these links here you should start bumping
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Bumping those threads over in cyanogenmod showing some interest in getting a forum up for the nook tablet and the new nook tablet HD would help get things rolling for this new device. I feel this new nook tablet HD has lots of potential with others helping out to become the next new device to develop on, like how the nook color took off last year.
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HIGHLY doubtful! they'll update the bootloader just like they did with the tablet, and, if you think otherwise, no offense, don't kid yourself
also... nook tablet has been out for almost a year and STILL only has nightlies (let alone a beta). again, no offense, but i'm seriously losing hope of EVER seeing a final version of cm10 (with a working 3.0 kernel (let alone bluetooth, mic, hw video accelleration) :\