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FROYO coming to experia x10 in the coming weeks!

Froyo Coming to XPERIA X10 in the "Coming Weeks" File under: News If you're kicking the SE XPERIA X10 (which was recently rooted, we might add), you can look forward to getting an over-the-air update to Froyo in the "coming weeks" accrodding to Sony Ericsson. Hopefully the upgrade will bring some much needed speed to the X10, as many find the clunky TimeScape interface to be a bit on the slow side. Here's what was said: Hi all, Many of you have been asking about the software update coming to the Xperia X10 this summer and we are pleased to share the details of it today. This update will be gradually rolled out across our markets over the coming weeks, pending the completion of quality approvals for individual markets and operators. The first updates are now live across selected markets. Please check with your local Sony Ericsson customer support when the upgrade will be available for your market and network. will be available for your market and network. When the update is available in your market you will receive a message in the notification bar of your X10. The easiest way to get the new software is to accept this update – you can use your mobile network connection or a WiFi connection for the download. Alternatively you can update your phone using your PC – please visit www.sonyericsson.com/update and follow the instructions. This update focuses on improving the general performance, speed and responsiveness of Xperia X10. For example, there are speed improvements in messaging tasks and camera UI. In addition we add a free back up and restore application so you’ll never lose your settings and information. In selected markets, PlayNow™ with premium apps and games will also be added. markets, PlayNow™ with premium apps and games will also be added. We hope you like these improvements. Please continue to interact with us. We listen to your feedback.(via: Clove) Other posts tagged with: Sony Ericsson, XPERIA,

Did you read the date on that post?
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Aparently that is too much to ask
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are you sure that it is Froyo? or is it 2.1?

It seems to unbelievable! Who can confirm this?

syzyec said:
It seems to unbelievable! Who can confirm this?
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No one can, it's just the latest update instructions. It even mentions as a new feature what we got with one of the recent updates: integrated backup.

Most likely, it's 2.1 updrade. It's rediculous to announce 2.2 update before 2.1 is released.

Froyo was never mentioned anywhere in that post on the SE product blog. Also, that was posted sometime in June 2010.
for those who havent seen it yet (which is almost impossible.. lol)
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/06/30/xperia-x10-software-update…-over-the-air/

ashman84 said:
Froyo was never mentioned anywhere in that post on the SE product blog. Also, that was posted sometime in June 2010.
for those who havent seen it yet (which is almost impossible.. lol)
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/06/30/xperia-x10-software-update…-over-the-air/
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Completely aggree. Please donot be fooled.

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Edit: SE Brazil withdraws statement about 2.3 Gingerbread in Nov. 2011 for X10

Found on twitter Brazil and linked to "complain here" reclameaqui.com website. I had to use google translate, but it seems some regions may be discussing getting official 2.3 in Q4 2011.
Edit: SE Brazil withdrew statement the next day saying the Arc would have 2.3 and older devices will stay on current Android OS. I was really hoping SE had a change of heart. Instead, they quickly confirmed we are on our own. Oh well, Sorry Guys
Edit March 24, 2011: Sony Ericsson released statement that due to consumer response and development of Gingerbread for the Arc and Play has allowed SE to bring 2.3.3 update to the X10. Update scheduled for end of Q2-beginning of Q3 2011(june/july).
Edit June 15, 2011: SE Brazil releases statement that multitouch will be implemented in the 2.3.3 update, allowing for 3D maps etc. Some people speculate that SE Brazil is talking about dualtouch. However, SE addresses this in the comments saying that SE knows the difference between dualtouch and multitouch.
SE translated statements:
This is the SE response to an upset Brazilian X10 user who was publicly complaining to SE about the lack of updates to 2.2 on a well known Brazilian website. Click on the link at the bottom of this post for the entire post.
***Firm's Response Tuesday, February 1, 2011 - 19:20
We reported that Sony Ericsson will not release the 2.2 version of Android, but the 2.3 which is expected in October 2011, we note that the decisions to upgrade part of meetings and agreements between Sony Ericsson and Google Android holds, the client can follow Sony Ericsson's website for news about updates.
Thanks for the site and Sra.Mara Complain Here for the opportunity to assist our customers, we guarantee that Sony Ericsson is constantly striving to improve our products and services. For that we make available to us by phone: 08008840444 or 0XX114001-0444 Monday through Saturday from 08:00 to 20:00. If you can not complete the call, simply add the number of operator + + DDD in your city 4001-0444. Our office hours are Monday through Saturday from 08:00 to 20:00, except holidays. And learn about our site www.sonyericsson.com.br.
***Final consideration of the Company
Regarding questions on the upgrade of the line Xperia smartphone to version 2.2 of Android, Sony Ericsson announced that in 2011 the company will focus efforts on its new line of Xperia handsets that come with the most current version of Android 2.3 from the product Xperia (tm) Arc. The devices that are already in the portfolio company's released so far, will keep the version 2.1 of the Android operating system, updated in December 2010, and it offers unique features entertainment such as video recording in HD, plus access to thousands new applications and a unique user experience with graphical user interfaces richer. The update for Android 2.1 is available on the company website through the link sonyericsson.com / support.
http://www.reclameaqui.com.br/10319...o-com-os-consumidores-xperia-x10-nunca-compr/
****June 15, 2011- SE Brazil posts on their blog.....
With the update release date approaching, many readers want to know what changes, what changes and what will not happen with the Xperia ™ X10.
Thinking about it, the Preview will make a series of posts about these key points. The goal is to answer the questions as the information is released by Sony Ericsson.
The first point: the long awaited multi-touch will be included in the update for the Gingerbread (Android 2.3). So a lot of apps that already run perfectly in version 2.1 of the system, gain new functions.
For example, Google Maps, you can change the perspective and view of the map even more clearly the projection of the 3D buildings, when they become available in the area that is viewed by the user.
Preview Track for more important points explained, as the changes and what does not change the operation of the X10. Until then.

I think there'll be a message from Sony which says: The information from SE Brazil is wrong, there won't be any updates.
But it would be cool to get that update.

doesn't 2.3 require 512mb ram?

There's a 2.3 custom rom for the X10, so it works fine with less than 512MB.

a2ha said:
doesn't 2.3 require 512mb ram?
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Not positive, but at least the regional branches are being receptive to the idea.

This answer is a little vague... there will be updates, but it is not clear if it is going to show up on X10... maybe they are talking about Xperia arc...

no, android 2.3 hasnt got any official requierments
512MB ram was just hoax

peligo said:
This answer is a little vague... there will be updates, but it is not clear if it is going to show up on X10... maybe they are talking about Xperia arc...
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The Arc is coming with 2.3, so it wouldn't be updated to gingerbread. Also, the SE response it to an X10 owner not happy about not updating to 2.2.

agentJBM said:
Found on twitter Brazil. I had to use google translate, but it seems some regions may be discussing getting official 2.3 in Q4 2011.
***Firm's Response Tuesday, February 1, 2011 - 19:20
We reported that Sony Ericsson will not release the 2.2 version of Android, but the 2.3 which is expected in October 2011,.
http://www.reclameaqui.com.br/10319...o-com-os-consumidores-xperia-x10-nunca-compr/
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A long way off. But it would be nice if they confirm that 2.3 is still on the table and being discussed.

Let's see how it ends

I think it's not real

until Nov 2011 we will have cracked bootloader and Android 4.0 LOL :-D

Wow.. I'm from Brazil and I didn't see that.
It really says "We reported that Sony Ericsson will not release the 2.2 version of Android, but the 2.3 which is expected in October 2011" but I think this is 100% bull**** from the PR person just to shut the customer complain down. Most companies does that on this site.

"...but the 2.3 which is expected in October 2011..."
I really, really, really, really doubt this. Like, why such a random month like October? It's 8 months from now till October, so wtf...

Well, you know it took about 4 months to release 435 FW, with crappy Mediascape pinchzooming and calendar...
So I don't surprised if it would take a year to rollout a 2.3 for SEX10. But I would really surprised if they do this ever ))

Amazing surprise

although im becoming happier with my phone every time i use it. I would love to get 2.3 on here.

After analyzing this, I have a conclusion: it isn't real.
I have some points to say that.
1. SE says that X10 running 2.1 delivers a full good experience for the users, so they'll rather to keep it in that way. They'd supposedly have problems developing a 2.2 version (I think that's just an excuse but... meh), so working in 2.3 for X10 means even more problems for them. They just won't make the effort.
2. I think X10 will be supported only until june or july. Then SE will start to work in the possible next Android version (2.4?) BUT only for Arc, Neo and PlayStation phone. But, in case that an update comes in Q4 of 2011 for X10 it won't be Gingerbread for sure, most likely another ROM build version with some improvements.
3. I don't know about any company to be interested on upgrading a phone that originally came with 1.6 to 2.3, no matter if the phone could be capable to run it. SE won't be the first.
So... Sorry guys, but this will not happen. I had the little hope too when I saw the new.

caifanX10 said:
After analyzing this, I have a conclusion: it isn't real.
I have some points to say that.
1. SE says that X10 running 2.1 delivers a full good experience for the users, so they'll rather to keep it in that way. They'd supposedly have problems developing a 2.2 version (I think that's just an excuse but... meh), so working in 2.3 for X10 means even more problems for them. They just won't make the effort.
2. I think X10 will be supported only until june or july. Then SE will start to work in the possible next Android version (2.4?) BUT only for Arc, Neo and PlayStation phone. But, in case that an update comes in Q4 of 2011 for X10 it won't be Gingerbread for sure, most likely another ROM build version with some improvements.
3. I don't know about any company to be interested on upgrading a phone that originally came with 1.6 to 2.3, no matter if the phone could be capable to run it. SE won't be the first.
So... Sorry guys, but this will not happen. I had the little hope too when I saw the new.
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Ok Macgyver. Yesterday you were a musician, today you're a investigative detective. What do you mean it isn't real?

agentJBM said:
Ok Macgyver. Yesterday you were a musician, today you're a investigative detective. What do you mean it isn't real?
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Im a musician, not a detective
Let's just see the reality, mah friend. That just can't be possible. If we think that'll be true, when it doesn't happen a lot of ppl will be very frustrated.
I thank you for the new, as I said, I had a hope, but in this case is hope vs. logic.

The Arc is all set to get the Honeycomb Update

Like the title says, the xperia arc is promised to get the Honeycomb
Update, smashing rumours that dual core processors nd other **** is required to run Honeycomb.
Here is the link for more reading.
http://gizbuy.com/2011/01/07/sonys-arc-to-get-honeycomb-update-but-xperia-x10-lineup-to-miss-froyo/
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At the VIP event they also confirmed that 2.4 will be available very soon after Google releases it!

After experiencing with X1 and X2 and then X10 and knowing SE's incomplete support of their products, I would like to assume that ARC will come with 2.3 and die on 2.3 and I hope I stay with this assumption without putting any pressure on myself that why my phone doesn't do this or that
This is what SE has been promising over and over for every generation of their phones and they fail to deliver, don't believe it then go back and read SE history. This is their repetitions in failure for every device they put together.
But this won't stop me from buying the ARC.

The new phones are different. Google brings the OS, Qualcomm does almost all drivers, and SE does Timescape, the launcher, and a few smaller apps. Most of the customizations are just some reskins, and Timescape has no real integration with the rest of Android, making it a lot easier to update without causing problems. Sony Ericsson said yesterday in Brussels that they plan to at least keep updating for 1 year after release.
The X10 was different. It was SE's first Android device, and Timescape and Mediascape were heavily integrated with critical parts of Android. They've learned from their mistakes with the X10, the new ones will do much better!

I wouldn't exactly agree with that.. SE promised that they would upgrade from 1.6 to 2.1 and they did.. and in doing that they realised that they had made it inordinately difficult for themselves to do so.. They say that they learned a valuable lesson from this.. and that the arc (and it's siblings) are built in a more modular fashion, allowing them to add their overlay UI etc without a massive coding exercise. I tend to believe that assertion.
Whether or not we'll get 2.5 (or what ever comes after 2.4).. I don't know.. but Android has matured significantly from 1.6 to 2.3 and future updates are less likely to be as significant (IMHO).. so perhaps not so big a deal anyway.. ??

We will be getting 2.4 (which still is Gingerbread but more optimized), after that 3.1 (Ice Cream) should follow, merging 2.4 and 3.0. As long as we get Ice Cream I'll be happy!

couple of points to the OP though.. That article was written in January.. and 3.0 is for tablets.. The next update for phones is 2.4 (Icecream)

im_iceman said:
The next update for phones is 2.4 (Icecream)
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2.4 will still be Gingerbread, and will mainly contain performance improvements for dualcores, but no major new features.

im_iceman said:
I wouldn't exactly agree with that.. SE promised that they would upgrade from 1.6 to 2.1 and they did.. and in doing that they realised that they had made it inordinately difficult for themselves to do so.. They say that they learned a valuable lesson from this.. and that the arc (and it's siblings) are built in a more modular fashion, allowing them to add their overlay UI etc without a massive coding exercise. I tend to believe that assertion.
Whether or not we'll get 2.5 (or what ever comes after 2.4).. I don't know.. but Android has matured significantly from 1.6 to 2.3 and future updates are less likely to be as significant (IMHO).. so perhaps not so big a deal anyway.. ??
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tbf the most significant update has yet to come
GPU accelerated UI
Bring me that and I don't think I will need much more

http://www.zenilshroff.com/google-android-2-4-ice-cream-sandwich-mobile-os-features-specs-overview/
Have a read of this article..

im_iceman said:
http://www.zenilshroff.com/google-android-2-4-ice-cream-sandwich-mobile-os-features-specs-overview/
Have a read of this article..
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That article has no sources, and similar ones have been posted in january too. Sony Ericsson has already got 2.4 running on the Arc, people tried it, and it's not the Gingerbread-Honeycomb merge. 2.4 is still Gingerbread, and if the next release will not be Gingerbread2, we'll be seeing 3.1 next. There will be no more new codenames in the 2.x family.

Everyday.... day by day...... I get disappointed by XDA member ( not all of them )
can't believe that there are people think that Honeycomb will be released for mobile handsets while Google itself stated it's only Tablet's OS. Yes, many developers have ported the Honeycomb into their HTCs' or Samsungs', but have you really tried it? fonts are un-readable, resolution is not that good and you can't read anything from it. Basically it was ported for testing and to play with for a little while.
2.4 is still Gingerbread as many members before me stated and Sony Ericsson already planning to release it when it's available. Regarding the difference, its main idea was to make dual-core applications run on a single core processor, along with minor changes.
please don't believe everything you read, it's really getting annoying how many come here with rumours just to start a useless thread
Best Regards,

Just thought of sharing this, if you don't like it then do us a favour, don't even look into this. Since I saw this on a couple of sites, I thought of sharing it. Even engadget had mentioned such a thing in early Feb I guess.
Yes I know icecream is dubbed as 2.4 which will contain elements from both gb and honeycomb, scheduled to run on non dual core smartphones. I have also seen some arc's testing the 2.4 os
I didn't know that the post was outdated, never the less lets move on, one should not get annoyed with every single thing. There are millions of things out there in this world to do the same. Might sound rude but shouldn't unless you're soft.
Peace \/
Cheers
AdY
MJ_QaT said:
Everyday.... day by day...... I get disappointed by XDA member ( not all of them )
can't believe that there are people think that Honeycomb will be released for mobile handsets while Google itself stated it's only Tablet's OS. Yes, many developers have ported the Honeycomb into their HTCs' or Samsungs', but have you really tried it? fonts are un-readable, resolution is not that good and you can't read anything from it. Basically it was ported for testing and to play with for a little while.
2.4 is still Gingerbread as many members before me stated and Sony Ericsson already planning to release it when it's available. Regarding the difference, its main idea was to make dual-core applications run on a single core processor, along with minor changes.
please don't believe everything you read, it's really getting annoying how many come here with rumours just to start a useless thread
Best Regards,
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<AdY> said:
Just thought of sharing this, if you don't like it then do us a favour, don't even look into this. Since I saw this on a couple of sites, I thought of sharing it. Even engadget had mentioned such a thing in early Feb I guess.
Yes I know icecream is dubbed as 2.4 which will contain elements from both gb and honeycomb, scheduled to run on non dual core smartphones. I have also seen some arc's testing the 2.4 os
I didn't know that the post was outdated, never the less lets move on, one should not get annoyed with every single thing. There are millions of things out there in this world to do the same. Might sound rude but shouldn't unless you're soft.
Peace \/
Cheers
AdY
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No worries mate, I take criticism with a smile
I would love to stay out of those topics, but seeing misleading information really makes me want to share my opinion... Someone has to correct things here...
You mentioned yourself that the articles are back in January, so why sharing an outdated information?

I didn't know that they were outdated. When I checked it again , I realised the issue.
MJ_QaT said:
No worries mate, I take criticism with a smile
I would love to stay out of those topics, but seeing misleading information really makes me want to share my opinion... Someone has to correct things here...
You mentioned yourself that the articles are back in January, so why sharing an outdated information?
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well, i'm glad that i'll be taking arc, can't wait till 9th april

[Official] ICS coming to 2011 Xperia™ from end March/early April 2012

Here is Official Product Blog

With the holiday season around the corner, we’re happy to confirm that the first 2011 Xperia™ smartphones will be upgraded to Android 4.0 starting from end March/early April 2012. The first smartphones to get the upgrade are Xperia™ arc S, Xperia™ neo V and Xperia™ ray. Soon after, starting from end April/early May, Xperia™ arc, Xperia™ PLAY, Xperia™ neo, Xperia™ mini and mini pro, Xperia™ pro, Xperia™ active as well as Sony Ericsson Live with Walkman™ will get their upgrades.
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End of April the earliest?

It makes no sense to give the update later to the original Neo. It's a more expensive phone that the Neo V and it's more similar to the Arc (S). Also the original Arc is second priority to them.

And everyone here at XDA are starting to enjoy SE ICS alpha already, with AOSP coming soon after. If 4.0.3 being legit, we might have that by end of this week. Dont get me wrong, I love the support from SE but the official roll out for the public could be faster.

If it's that late, it means that they're going to make some serious improvements. I guess I can wait.

What I'm guessing is that they are working on a new set of ICS apps for their 2012 ICS line-up of phones, which will probably launch starting February to April. Then they will port those apps and ICS onto the 2011 line-up.
I've been pretty content with the SE apps like music, contacts, calendar, etc so yes, I would agree - improved, ICS optimized versions of those apps would definitely worth the wait.
Keep pushing near-AOSP alpha/beta builds to the developers and we can have the best of both worlds. Proud SE customer.

april huh? well, i think i can wait..
for now, let's just enjoy gingerbread

hellocng said:
What I'm guessing is that they are working on a new set of ICS apps for their 2012 ICS line-up of phones, which will probably launch starting February to April. Then they will port those apps and ICS onto the 2011 line-up.
I've been pretty content with the SE apps like music, contacts, calendar, etc so yes, I would agree - improved, ICS optimized versions of those apps would definitely worth the wait.
Keep pushing near-AOSP alpha/beta builds to the developers and we can have the best of both worlds. Proud SE customer.
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I'm guessing that they will update the Nozomi to ICS first, and we have to wait for no good reason

doomed151 said:
If it's that late, it means that they're going to make some serious improvements. I guess I can wait.
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I'm on the same boat.
I'd rather wait, because alpha version was somewhat disappointing.
So if there is to be newer kernel and cool ICS UI, I can definitely wait!
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yuck ,, really bad and disgusting news ... i wanna vomit !!

khalid2040 said:
yuck ,, really bad and disgusting news ... i wanna vomit !!
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Really I thought se had been good with updates, it's not that far away at all. ;-)
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From what I gather, most phones will get ICS around that time.
For example, SGS II ir rumored to get it at Q2 2012.
There's already an alpha officially published and another version leaked
so I hope we will have some ROMs to play around until then.

Some additional features by Sony Ericsson coming in ICS release
- We’re looking into making it possible to create groups in the list of contacts.
- We’re planning to ship both the Ice Cream Sandwich vanilla gallery app and our own Sony Ericsson gallery app. They both include some great features, so it will be up to you to use the one which fits your needs best.
- It is our intention to include the popular swipe to write feature, currently available in our Gingerbread software.
Open source archive is also available now -
http://developer.sonyericsson.com/wp/2011/12/22/thanks-for-the-feedback/

i guess they wanna sell new ICS phone before releasing it to rest of us..
but thats just a monrh before google release a new android

From all their recent actions I gather that they have started showing great respect to users. Releasing HAL as open source will vastly help our devs.
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iridaki said:
I'm on the same boat.
I'd rather wait, because alpha version was somewhat disappointing.
So if there is to be newer kernel and cool ICS UI, I can definitely wait!
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I, too, would love a spanking-new UI to go with ICS, but judging by the alpha ROM they released recently, I don't think it's likely.

iridaki said:
From what I gather, most phones will get ICS around that time.
For example, SGS II ir rumored to get it at Q2 2012.
There's already an alpha officially published and another version leaked
so I hope we will have some ROMs to play around until then.
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Q1 is the release date for ics official by samsung not Q2.

mpf.. i don't really care about waiting IF they hold up on what they are promising.. the alpha rom just has the old boring launcher but i think it won't be present in ics.. i guess when they release it half a year after the source code got released there MUST be really major improvements so guys: just WAIT !

Z1 Android 4.3 & 4.4 KitKat News [RELEASED]

Last week you probably saw Google announce Android version 4.4; Kit Kat…
We’ve seen lots of questions on our Android upgrade roadmap and equally, we have lots to tell you, so here’s a note on just that…
First up, Jelly Bean 4.3
We’re pleased to tell you that we’ll start rolling Android 4.3 for Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1 from next month*.
We also mentioned that a few of our products would be jumping software version – so, we can confirm that Xperia T, Xperia TX and Xperia V* will be upgraded to Android Jelly Bean 4.3… also from next month.
And, to Kit Kat 4.4
We’re also happy to tell you about the first raft of Xperia products that we’ll make Android 4.4 Kit Kat available for – they are: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1*.
On that, please stay tuned to the social newsroom and @SonyMobileNews, where we’ll update you with specific info on product upgrade timings & software features as things progress.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop them below.
*Software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability may vary by market / carrier
SOURCE - http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/11/07/on-jelly-bean-4-3-kit-kat-4-4/
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UPDATE -
KitKat firmware (14.3.A.0.681) certified for Xperia Z1 and Xperia Z1 Compact
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2686232
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UPDATE 2 -
Android 4.4; KitKat, rolls for Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 and Xperia Z1 Compact
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/03...eria-z-ultra-xperia-z1-and-xperia-z1-compact/

Lets hope to be true, its not hard for that, Android of Sony is very clean.
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I kinda doubt this. android 4.4 should be announced by google later this months, then it is highly unlikely that sony would be able to release it for the Z1 on the 7th of November. But I really wish they can, I even wish they skip 4.3 and focus on 4.4, if we can get it before the end of this year then hell yeah

ahomad said:
I kinda doubt this. android 4.4 should be announced by google later this months, then it is highly unlikely that sony would be able to release it for the Z1 on the 7th of November. But I really wish they can, I even wish they skip 4.3 and focus on 4.4, if we can get it before the end of this year then hell yeah
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i think this is very possible... google usually releases the source codes to manufacturers weeks before they officially lunch a new version...

ahomad said:
I kinda doubt this. android 4.4 should be announced by google later this months, then it is highly unlikely that sony would be able to release it for the Z1 on the 7th of November. But I really wish they can, I even wish they skip 4.3 and focus on 4.4, if we can get it before the end of this year then hell yeah
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fyi kitkat is already announced and it is going to be released later this month.
manufacturers gets source code before official launch as the guy above me said.

Morlock O said:
i think this is very possible... google usually releases the source codes to manufacturers weeks before they officially lunch a new version...
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fyi kitkat is already announced and it is going to be released later this month.
manufacturers gets source code before official launch as the guy above me said.
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I know that this is the case, but this has been the case so long ago (not with android 4.4), yet manufacturers take months before releasing the updates. 4.3 rolled out months ago but you could barely find phones already have 4.3 (apart from note 3 and HTC one) even the SGS4 which used to get updates before anyone else didn't get it yet UNLESS manufacturers already decided to skip 4.3 and focused to get 4.4 faster.
Again I really wish that Sony release 4.4 in November or even earlier (I am not against that, I have the Z1 myself) but as I said before it is highly unlikely.

ahomad said:
I know that this is the case, but this has been the case so long ago (not with android 4.4), yet manufacturers take months before releasing the updates. 4.3 rolled out months ago but you could barely find phones already have 4.3 (apart from note 3 and HTC one) even the SGS4 which used to get updates before anyone else didn't get it yet UNLESS manufacturers already decided to skip 4.3 and focused to get 4.4 faster.
Again I really wish that Sony release 4.4 in November or even earlier (I am not against that, I have the Z1 myself) but as I said before it is highly unlikely.
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what you say is true but I guess the chasing pack (HTC, LG, Sony) are maybe just realizing the importance of timely updates (that probably was a factor in Samsung's ascendance. HTC lost the android crown because it just lost lots of loyal customers who never saw any updates). Since Hardware is more or less commoditized already, the turf wars are gonna be fought on Software front. Faster updates could be USP and Sony might want to claim bragging rights (porting might be easier/faster for Sony as they are almost stock anyway!

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what you say is true but I guess the chasing pack (HTC, LG, Sony) are maybe just realizing the importance of timely updates (that probably was a factor in Samsung's ascendance. HTC lost the android crown because it just lost lots of loyal customers who never saw any updates). Since Hardware is more or less commoditized already, the turf wars are gonna be fought on Software front. Faster updates could be USP and Sony might want to claim bragging rights (porting might be easier/faster for Sony as they are almost stock anyway!
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I totally agree with you. Sony said they will release faster updates. Sony has advantage here because of the light skin but this is not the only thing, actually it is the least time consuming thing because it doesn't need much optimization and testing, at the end it is mostly an app that you can install to change how the phone look. The problem is to get it to work along with all the features with THIS SPECIFIC DEVICE, they need to test how the software would perform in THIS hardware (mainly chipset and screen and other things). And here is the bigger advantage of the Z1 as it uses the same chip and screen resolution as the nexus 5 (according to rumors), this will definitely help sony to release the new android versions much faster to the Z1 as it will already be optimized and tested. but again I doubt they will release it two weeks after the release of the 4.4 to the nexus devices but I still hope they will.

Guys, have a look here
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/10/09/android-4-4-kitkat-is-not-hitting-the-xperia-z1-in-november/

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Guys, have a look here
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/10/09/android-4-4-kitkat-is-not-hitting-the-xperia-z1-in-november/
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They don't list any sources either, as far as I am concerned neither "presumption" is correct, OEM's get new android versions months before there even announced so Sony may very well be cooking up Kitkat ready for November.

I don't believe it, if anything I'd expect a 4.3 release in November and a 4.4 in early 2014 hopefully.

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They don't list any sources either, as far as I am concerned neither "presumption" is correct, OEM's get new android versions months before there even announced so Sony may very well be cooking up Kitkat ready for November.
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If they were, it's time we built a monument for Sony

Highly unlikely.. But if it happened to be the case, Sony deserves a lot of credit. In my opinion they receive too little credit for their contributions to AOSP. But that's another matter
Sent from my Xperia Z1

Possibly. Google said they want kit Kat for everyone.
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z1 C6903

This is getting old, but anyway here it is again...
Just look at Sony´s smartphone and firmware history m8´s, and you will see that this is never going to happen...
- we are lucky to recive 4.3 in late Q1 or perhaps Q2 of 2014, and after that the Z1 will be abandoned...
IF the rumor really WAS true, Sony would have turned 180 degrees in their business strategy... (and that is not likely, is it now ??)
Becource sony has actually acted that way for years now, at least since Xperia X10...
Sony is in this marked for the money, nothing else...
That is also why the Z1 was shipped with 4.2.2, and NOT 4.3 from the beginning...
- this way Sony can meet Googles demands on major updates, without actually giving YOU anything new...
Just think for 2 sec, about this:
WHY would Sony release a new flagship like the Z1 with only 4.2.2, when it would be just as mutch work for them to release it with the current 4.3 ??
This is also not new for Sony, the X10 was shipped with 1.6...
Sony is NOT stupid, the history repeats it self over and over, and we buy the products anyway...
BTW other Sony "feature" is these:
DON`T be suppriced to find that the Z and other phones is going to get the 4.3 before the Z1, that is actually also normal sony behavior.
DON´T be suppriced if you at last, one day finally will get 4.4 anyway (Q4 2014), that there will be features missing in the new version, that also is normal sony behavior.

The rumours come from a pretty unreliable source, so I'm not basing any of my analysis on that. Rather based on how close Sonys UI is to AOSP, porting it to 4.3 or 4.4 seems more trivial than it would for HTC or Samsung, considering their much larger deviations from AOSP. But ultimately only time will tell.
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WHY would Sony release a new flagship like the Z1 with only 4.2.2, when it would be just as mutch work for them to release it with the current 4.3 ??
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Because they've been working on the Z1 for longer than 4.3 has been available and wanted to beat the other manufacturers to market with an S800 phone (note that the LG G2 also shipped with 4.2.2 and is the only other phone with an S800 CPU), there literally is no other plausible explanation, stop being such a downer man. Ultimately 4.2.2/4.3/4.4 doesn't make any difference at all to the average consumer, and in fact, Sony might actually provide a better user experience by sticking to 4.2.2 until the bugs have been ironed out of the new major versions.
They will likely have had a team working on porting their UI to 4.3/4.4 while developing the Xperia Z1, they are just not ready yet.

Maybe you guys dont use to Sony?
Just relax and don't put high hope on update.....(xperia S and TX owner here waiting Z1)
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The only for reason for 4.2.2 in Z1, is to claim the amount of major updates without actually give us anything new...
- as i said Sony is NOT stupid, they are in this marked to earn money, nothing else...
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stop being such a downer man.
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Stop being so gullible man.
Rekoil said:
Ultimately 4.2.2/4.3/4.4 doesn't make any difference at all to the average consumer, and in fact, Sony might actually provide a better user experience by sticking to 4.2.2 until the bugs have been ironed out of the new major versions.
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THIS IS FUNNY !
This is actually allmost exactly what S/E responded back in the X10 days, when people was on 1.6, waiting allmost a year for 2.1...
- are you shure you dont Work for them ??
4.3 would give new features, and equally importent, it would let Sony be in the android lead for once, but then they have to give you, at least, also 4.4, and Sony don´t want to do that...
- it is better for Sony´s economy, if we all buy a new phone in a year instead...
But DON`T belive me, PLEACE DONT !
Just read the Sony and S/E history instead, and form your oppinion from that...
- then lets talk...
Dont get me wrong, Sony make fantasic smartphones, i love my sony phones...
Sony just dont update them as mutch as you would expect, and for a good reason...

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The only for reason for 4.2.2 in Z1, is to claim the amount of major updates without actually give us anything new...
- as i said Sony is NOT stupid, they are in this marked to earn money, nothing else...
Stop being so gullible man.
THIS IS FUNNY !
This is actually allmost exactly what S/E responded back in the X10 days, when people was on 1.6, waiting allmost a year for 2.1...
- are you shure you dont Work for them ??
4.3 would give new features, and equally importent, it would let Sony be in the android lead for once, but then they have to give you, at least, also 4.4, and Sony don´t want to do that...
- it is better for Sony´s economy, if we all buy a new phone in a year instead...
But DON`T belive me, PLEACE DONT !
Just read the Sony and S/E history instead, and form your oppinion from that...
- then lets talk...
Dont get me wrong, Sony make fantasic smartphones, i love my sony phones...
Sony just dont update them as mutch as you would expect, and for a good reason...
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I don't work for them, and excuse me for potentially being naïve, I'm just saying there have been large changes to the inner workings of Sony recently (look up Kaz Hirais One Sony initiative), nothing is impossible!

pshdo said:
This is getting old, but anyway here it is again...
Just look at Sony´s smartphone and firmware history m8´s, and you will see that this is never going to happen...
- we are lucky to recive 4.3 in late Q1 or perhaps Q2 of 2014, and after that the Z1 will be abandoned...
IF the rumor really WAS true, Sony would have turned 180 degrees in their business strategy... (and that is not likely, is it now ??)
Becource sony has actually acted that way for years now, at least since Xperia X10...
Sony is in this marked for the money, nothing else...
That is also why the Z1 was shipped with 4.2.2, and NOT 4.3 from the beginning...
- this way Sony can meet Googles demands on major updates, without actually giving YOU anything new...
Just think for 2 sec, about this:
WHY would Sony release a new flagship like the Z1 with only 4.2.2, when it would be just as mutch work for them to release it with the current 4.3 ??
This is also not new for Sony, the X10 was shipped with 1.6...
Sony is NOT stupid, the history repeats it self over and over, and we buy the products anyway...
BTW other Sony "feature" is these:
DON`T be suppriced to find that the Z and other phones is going to get the 4.3 before the Z1, that is actually also normal sony behavior.
DON´T be suppriced if you at last, one day finally will get 4.4 anyway (Q4 2014), that there will be features missing in the new version, that also is normal sony behavior.
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LOL such a doubter... and it is surprised not suppriced ...
ok let us take a look at Sony's Firmware history:
1. Xperia S(March 2012) launched with GB installed, they released ICS (4.0.4) update around may-june 2012 as promised, then release jellyean 1 year later (may-june 2013)... They actually have released a leaked version earlier at around April 2013 (build .200) so developers can start developing with the jellybean firmware... that is very timely... as expected, they will stop here as Qualcom has stopped supporting the chipset installed in Xperia S... no surprise there.
2. Xperia Z(February 2013) was released with Jelly bean 4.1.2... and then released 4.2.2 mid this year... they also promised 4.3 upgrade around Dec or January...
now lets take a look at Google's release cycle:
ICS 4.0.4 is release on 29 March 2012
JB 4.1.2 is released Oct 2012
JB 4.2.2 is only released Feb 2013
As you can see, Sony has an orderly version release cycle... and they always deliver on their promises... and as you can see after Sony releases a new product, they upgrade it to the latest version 3-4 months later... they are also known to skip versions... (they skipped ICS 4.0.3 and went to 4.0.4)
how much you wanna bet they will release 4.4 on or before Q1 2014?