[Q] DEfy battery swelling - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

just happened yesterday,
felt my defy very hot in my pocket and turned it off. after a while, turned it on, and it was ok. the only thing i noticed was that the battery was draining very fast. i thought that this can be fixed by calibrating the battery, so i drained it till it is on 1%. turned it off and charge it. it reached 100% in over 2 hours but when i tried to turn it on, it wouldnt. so i unplug it from the wall and removed the battert. thats when i noticed that it is swollen and couldn't hold any charge.
anybody has this similar experience? is this hardware or ROM related. using ICS CM9 03/05. defy is 1yr and 3 months old.

sounds VERY BAD! lithium ion batteries explode violently and then catch fire. get rid of it immediately, bury it if you have to.

This happened to an older Nokia I had. The battery is dead and it's very risky to keep forcing it by charging. Get rid of it, better safe than sorry.
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i did got rid of it. the question now is how did it happen if defy has overcharge protection? or is it just that i got a bad battery

I think you got a bad battery, it's not acceptable to get in that state after only 15 months. You should be in that 2-year warranty period, the battery should be changed on that basis. Give it a try, it might work.
My Nokia had over 4 years when the battery got fat and died .
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Same problem
I had a Defy and its been about a month since i last used it and i found it just a min ago and the battrey had swelled up from the top and bottom now i have put it in a bag as the guys on here said better safe than sorry.

Swelling and/or overheating while charging can only mean you have a big problem with the battery, also if the battery feels malleable, there is something very very wrong...
Make sure that the battery doesn't leak fluids and avoid contact with water at any cost.
Also... recycle the battery and not throw it in the garbage so the chemicals will be dealt with properly.

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salingpusa said:
just happened yesterday,
felt my defy very hot in my pocket and turned it off. after a while, turned it on, and it was ok. the only thing i noticed was that the battery was draining very fast. i thought that this can be fixed by calibrating the battery, so i drained it till it is on 1%. turned it off and charge it. it reached 100% in over 2 hours but when i tried to turn it on, it wouldnt. so i unplug it from the wall and removed the battert. thats when i noticed that it is swollen and couldn't hold any charge.
anybody has this similar experience? is this hardware or ROM related. using ICS CM9 03/05. defy is 1yr and 3 months old.
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yes it happened to my defy.i tried many methods but nothing worked. my phone was bricked .so there nothing for me to do. so in order to flash i needed the battery. (back 2 froyo) my defy was 3 years old . it showed nothing till this battery thing showed up.so i went to ebay bought a battery for 6.76 dollars and flashed it back to froyo. now it is running fine on cm 11. i suggest you do the same.

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G1 won't charge and magically fixes itself.

So I had an unusual experience with my G1 and I though I would share it with the forum for feedback or to possibly help someone else out.
I come from the winmo community and recently purchased a Cliq xt. Without a root method and stuck on 1.5 I picked up a cheap used G1 to play with. I was told the phone was a few years old. I rooted the phone and installed CyanogenMod 5.0.8.
I soon noticed my battery was not holding a charge and immediately ordered 2 1400mah batteries off Ebay. I got the batteries, fully charged one and let it completely drain. When I went to plug the phone back in to charge it up it would not charge. The only way the phone would boot up was if it was plugged in (to the usb or wall charger). From what I read I gathered that if I got a unit to charge the batteries out of the phone I would still be able to use the phone. I charged a battery and put it in the phone. Still the phone will not turn on. Oh well my G1 died, I'll just buy one with a broken screen and swap them out.
By the time I found a broken G1 on CL my original G1 sat for 4-5 days with the fully charged battery in it. When I went to start dissecting the phones I noticed my old G1 was on and running. WTF? Battery level was at 18%. I plugged the phone into the wall charger. It indicated it was charging. I turned the phone off and on and fully charged it over night. I have been using the phone for the entire day and the battery life is as good as a G1 gets.
Everything I have read about the not charging/turning on issue indicated that the mother board was bad in the phone. Yet my phone displayed those same symptoms and started working again.
Thoughts?
Yea it happend to me too.
You just need to pull the battery for 5 minutes and put it back in. I think its because the CM6 builds overclock it to 576mhz (higher then rated 528mhz) and that causes issues like this.
not as magical as I thought. Thanks for the reply.
I had this as well and when I removed battery and put back in I noted that the battery level had flipped from in the red to the equivalent of in the green... this was before i even rooted my phone... possible software issue perhaps?

I think I may have fried my Incredible

I think I may have fried my Incredible last night. I was flashing or backing up my phone last night, I don't remember really, and fell asleep with it in CWM. I woke up some time later to find my phone in my bed in CWM and it was scorching hot. I took the battery cover off and took the battery out and went back to sleep.
About ten minutes ago when I woke up (yea I'm lazy lol) I tried to boot into CWM, nothing. I tried to turn it on normally, nothing. I plugged it into the charger and all I got was a blinking red light.
Anyone know if the battery is just fried or if the whole phone is fried? If it's just the battery I have an extra one at my other house about 90 minutes away (which I'll be going to in a few hours).
brando56894 said:
I think I may have fried my Incredible last night. I was flashing or backing up my phone last night, I don't remember really, and fell asleep with it in CWM. I woke up some time later to find my phone in my bed in CWM and it was scorching hot. I took the battery cover off and took the battery out and went back to sleep.
About ten minutes ago when I woke up (yea I'm lazy lol) I tried to boot into CWM, nothing. I tried to turn it on normally, nothing. I plugged it into the charger and all I got was a blinking red light.
Anyone know if the battery is just fried or if the whole phone is fried? If it's just the battery I have an extra one at my other house about 90 minutes away (which I'll be going to in a few hours).
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Hey I'm kind of a noob myself. Never had this problem, but which part was the hottest? You might be able to put in a new battery. Maybe you can order a new one like the extended battery
I don't remember, I had taken ambien lol I remember I had stretched out, felt it in my bed and it was hot, saw it was in CWM, then took the battery out and passed back out. IIRC the battery was pretty damn hot. I had this happen with my OG droid but it was only scorching hot for a few minutes and it was fine after, possibly because the case was aluminum and acted as a heatsink.
The red blinking light indicates that there is not enough battery power to boot up the phone. Leave it on the charger for about 20-60 minutes, and if it doesn't boot up then you may need a new battery-
Thanks, I'll give that a try.
Edit; that fixed it! Any idea why it would get so hot in cwm?
What all are you doing on CWM and how many hours. Brightness is also a factor.
I'm glad you saved your Incredible, though lol.
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brando56894 said:
Thanks, I'll give that a try.
Edit; that fixed it! Any idea why it would get so hot in cwm?
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I'm not sure, like the user above pointed out it likely depended on what you were doing. If it was something that involved constant CPU usage then that would cause the battery to heat up since it'd be draining more power than if it were idle.
I really don't know the workings of CWM well enough to give you a good answer
Thats the odd thing, I wasn't doing anything it was sitting there idle while I was sleeping. I have no idea how many hours it was on (could have been 30 minutes or it could have been four hours).
Just a guess, it's probably because there's no power management going on, so everything's going 100% and loading down the battery.
CWM seems to drain batteries even while charging, and causes my phone to heat up a lot. I don't know the cause, only that it happens.

Battery/Charging Issues (Nexus 4)

I am having problems with my Nexus 4.
History, replaced screen after phone was knocked out of my hand, probably damaged battery while trying to remove it, but everything worked once it was back together.
Screen broke again, and while working on that, I noticed the battery had swollen so ordered a replacement of eBay.
All back together now, but.
1 Phone does not state "charging" when connected to AC or USB charging, although the battery icon has the lightning bolt in it and the %charge does not drop while messing with the phone.
2 Phone does charge using wireless, but slowly, and status swaps back and forth between charging and not charging and the % will move from e.g. 40% to 35% as it says charging or not charging.
3 USB works for connection to PC.
I charged the new battery overnight, wirelessly. It got to about 90%, so slow charging, but seems to work. Phone is usable, everything seems to work. I connected it to PC and was able to use Nexus Root Toolkit to backup, the reset the phone, no change in charging behavior.
Booting into safe mode made no difference either. So it seems it is not software/firmware/apps that are causing the problem?
I guess next step is to open it up again and remove and remake all connections and check contact posts? Should I order a third battery? Or a new motherboard?
I searched here, but could not find anyone with the same problem.
Any and all help appreciated. Thanks in advance, guys.
Opening and rechecking connections and coating with contact cleaner has made no difference.
Phone typically needs Volume Down and Power button pressed to get it to start, then Power Button to select start option, then seems to run okay.
Battery still not reaching 100% charged, generally 70-80% after a full night off, using wireless (my Nexus 5 charges happily on same charger).
Ordered a cheap battery from China, not really expecting that to be the problem, but no other clues or suggestions for now.
Any update?
My battery is ****e now, lasts 3-4 hours and I need to turn off the phone and charge. It takes 4+ hours to charge when switched on. Charging via the PC you can forget it, it drains the battery if anything!
I'm thinking of buying the battery on eBay and doing my research on how to fix myself.
Phone not switching on and Battery issues
Hi,
I have been facing quick drainage of my Nexus 4 battery since past few months. Recently I had been keeping it on charge almost the whole day, and a full charge would last only 2-3 hours! Further, the charging was taking a lot of time too.
Today, my phone had already switched off due to low battery when I put it on charger. After the white charging icon appeared for a few seconds, the phone wasn't charging at all. I have tried 4 different chargers, but to no avail.
Can someone help me? Is there a guide on how to change the battery?
Any help and urgent help appreciated!
Zany!
Cooldood2012 said:
II guess next step is to open it up again and remove and remake all connections and check contact posts? Should I order a third battery? Or a new motherboard?
I searched here, but could not find anyone with the same problem.
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It's possible some hardware was damaged when you took apart and put back together your phone. The USB board is a possibility, as is the back cover itself. These parts are pretty inexpensive, if you want to try buying a replacement, but that's just a shot in the dark.
uncle_buckman said:
Any update?
My battery is ****e now, lasts 3-4 hours and I need to turn off the phone and charge. It takes 4+ hours to charge when switched on. Charging via the PC you can forget it, it drains the battery if anything!
I'm thinking of buying the battery on eBay and doing my research on how to fix myself.
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Buy a new battery. Li-ion batteries are only good for a few hundred cycles or so (~500 cycles is the expected lifetime), and the N4 isn't exactly the best in battery life, so you can reach the point where your battery turns to crap within a year or so (or less).
Go to ifixit.com and look at the teardown. All you need to replace the battery is a T5 TORX driver (for the screws at the bottom), something thin and plastic (like a guitar pick or a plastic knife - they do make professional tools for this) to pry the back cover off, a tiny phillips screwdriver (like for eyeglasses) for the battery screws, and something to pry the old battery off of the adhesive holding it in. Double sided cellophane tape works fine for keeping the new battery in. When prying the cover off, go slowly. A little at a time, don't rush or force things. Or you might flex too much and crack the back glass. Don't forget to take out the SIM tray first.
zanyguy said:
Hi,
I have been facing quick drainage of my Nexus 4 battery since past few months. Recently I had been keeping it on charge almost the whole day, and a full charge would last only 2-3 hours! Further, the charging was taking a lot of time too.
Today, my phone had already switched off due to low battery when I put it on charger. After the white charging icon appeared for a few seconds, the phone wasn't charging at all. I have tried 4 different chargers, but to no avail.
Can someone help me? Is there a guide on how to change the battery?
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Time for a new battery. See above.
My battery have started to swollen up a bit but not alot (around 1mm or less, but it is noticeable when not in a case, it can wiggle a bit from side to side but not alot at all).
I have already ordered a new battery if it is expanding more, but yet battery life is pretty good in standby but not getting more then 3hours of SOT. but since im mostly using the N4 for email's and texting its not a problem for me to get through a full day.
I'm having the exact same issue but I've never taken the phone apart. In the 20 minutes its been off charger it's dropped 11% screen off in my pocket. It also gets hot and shuts off.
apocolypsecow said:
I'm having the exact same issue but I've never taken the phone apart. In the 20 minutes its been off charger it's dropped 11% screen off in my pocket. It also gets hot and shuts off.
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That could be software/ROM related. It sounds like somethings keeping your phone going full blast instead of letting it idle.
Yup, trying going back to full stock (should always be first step if possible), and then you can go from there. If it doesn't happen, than it was a software issue, and if it still does than it is definitely a hardware issue. Best of luck.
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With a swollen battery I strongly recommend you stop actively using the device. Swollen batteries can explode and that would not be good at all. I advise you to please not use the device anymore.
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Third battery (original, suspect replacement, now China sourced replacement) has been working well, phone back together and preforming as new for the last few months

[Q] Is this an issue of a dead battery?

While charging my Nexus 7 I noticed that the battery was actually draining rather than charging. This is happened in the past as well where I would plug it in overnight and find it at 42%. My Nexus also dropped from 100% to 77% in less than an hour with no use at all.
Recently while charging I went into the bootloader to shut down the Nexus. Now I plug it in and the screen is blank. I have tied a rubber band around the power button so it is constantly being pressed.
Is this a battery issue that can be solved by simply ordering a battery on eBay and changing it? The past behavior of the tablet makes me think it's either a software or battery issue.
i have the exact same thing... n7 is dead as a brick... have tried everything... i also measured the battery and it's on 0.93 v so there is still juice inside...
can't figure why it doesn't work... if u find something plz let me know too
mine done the same thing . But it done so after leaving it for a few weeks not charging. I charged for like 30 minutes . turned it on . It started updating apps. then all at once screen went off. and that was it..
I had square trade warranty as my tab was bought back when 32 gb 2012 version came out. So i sent it in and they fixed it . I have no idea what they done but it has the same serial numbers mac address and so on. So i suspect it was just revived somehow.
I sent email asking exactly what was done to fix it with no reply back.
Don't have a warranty... it the 1st Gen n7 so I called Google and it doesn't have warranty
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I'm way past warranty. I've had it a couple of years now.
I bought a battery off of eBay. I'm going to remove the back cover and replace the battery and hopefully that will fix the issue.
Will update with the results or lack of results.

Won't turn on, no lights, but warms up when plugged in.

As the title says, Phone won't turn on. There are no led lights at all. It does get warm after being plugged in for a little. I had jrkruse's hybrid_bra1 stock safetynet samsungpay...... rom on it. It was rooted. Very minimal processes running. I actually had basically everything stopped and greenify on. Phone was around 40% battery. I plugged it into charger, took my dog outside, showered real fast, washed a few dishes, then came back in to room within 15 minutes to my phone being dead and hot. It's never got this hot before even while rooted and plugged in with this rom on it. I have never had it get that hot. Was just formatted the day before and really bare but, that is what happened.
A couple battery apps I had put the batteries remaining life capacity at around 60%. It held a charge poorly. Even for 60% capacity it felt weak, considering how little I did on it lately. I am thinking the battery may have took a crap but unsure because it warms up when it is plugged in. I plan on getting a battery soon since they are inexpensive and replace it to try it out.
Just wondering if anyone here has any experience with this and can offer any advice.
Thank you in advance.
(I looked for a min or two for similar posts but didn't find much. Will gladly take down if someone can point me the way)
You say your battery was already outworn, It may have died. I think you should try with a new battery, Or take it to a technician who can test the phone's hardware to see if there is anything else broken
i've only had one similar case with an s3, which would turn of at random % of battery. But when plugged turned on. I replaced the battery and it worked fine then
Maxissc said:
You say your battery was already outworn, It may have died. I think you should try with a new battery, Or take it to a technician who can test the phone's hardware to see if there is anything else broken
i've only had one similar case with an s3, which would turn of at random % of battery. But when plugged turned on. I replaced the battery and it worked fine then
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I really do hope that is what's wrong. I just ordered a battery. Thanks for the reply. I also got some little tools and battery door adhesive sticker. Wish me luck!
funny story....
The mic in my Nubia Red Magic broke and I sent that back to hong kong for repairs like 20 days ago. Before the Red Magic, I used this galaxy s7 edge my friend gave me. I gave it back when I got the Red Magic and told him to sell it or something. Not much later, decided to buy it back off of him for $200 to give to my mother. She loved it. I had the gs7 edge with me exploring prepaid provider options for my mom when the Red Magic mic broke. So then I decided to borrow the edge from her till my phone got back and few days later I break this one too..
I feel naked without a phone for so long haha
Zombiebeaver said:
As the title says, Phone won't turn on. There are no led lights at all. It does get warm after being plugged in for a little. I had jrkruse's hybrid_bra1 stock safetynet samsungpay...... rom on it. It was rooted. Very minimal processes running. I actually had basically everything stopped and greenify on. Phone was around 40% battery. I plugged it into charger, took my dog outside, showered real fast, washed a few dishes, then came back in to room within 15 minutes to my phone being dead and hot. It's never got this hot before even while rooted and plugged in with this rom on it. I have never had it get that hot. Was just formatted the day before and really bare but, that is what happened.
A couple battery apps I had put the batteries remaining life capacity at around 60%. It held a charge poorly. Even for 60% capacity it felt weak, considering how little I did on it lately. I am thinking the battery may have took a crap but unsure because it warms up when it is plugged in. I plan on getting a battery soon since they are inexpensive and replace it to try it out.
Just wondering if anyone here has any experience with this and can offer any advice.
Thank you in advance.
(I looked for a min or two for similar posts but didn't find much. Will gladly take down if someone can point me the way)
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I have the same rom, with charging issues. I don't think its the rom causing it. The s7e are getting old and the batteries are taking a toll with the age. My phone will charge up to 81 at night and stay there. I get better results with wireless charging so i just top my phone off during the day with my wireless charger. There is a code to reset the battery's internal memory, if i find the link on how to do it I will post here for you.
Fear_The_Fluff said:
I have the same rom, with charging issues. I don't think its the rom causing it. The s7e are getting old and the batteries are taking a toll with the age. My phone will charge up to 81 at night and stay there. I get better results with wireless charging so i just top my phone off during the day with my wireless charger. There is a code to reset the battery's internal memory, if i find the link on how to do it I will post here for you.
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Thanks for reply and alright let me know if you find out. My phone had no problem charging to 100% Its just the 100% on the status bar wasnt 100% of the 3600 capacity from wear. My friend's also does the same thing as yours except his he cant charge more than like 24% haha. He just uses it as a plugged in music player in car.... I am getting battery in the mail tomorrow and will see what I can do.
Zombiebeaver said:
Thanks for reply and alright let me know if you find out. My phone had no problem charging to 100% Its just the 100% on the status bar wasnt 100% of the 3600 capacity from wear. My friend's also does the same thing as yours except his he cant charge more than like 24% haha. He just uses it as a plugged in music player in car.... I am getting battery in the mail tomorrow and will see what I can do.
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Try this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74268596&postcount=4
I have not done it because it requires draining the battery and I never get around to doing that. Hopefully it will help you out. Good luck!
Fear_The_Fluff said:
Try this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74268596&postcount=4
I have not done it because it requires draining the battery and I never get around to doing that. Hopefully it will help you out. Good luck!
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A little late, sorry. lol.
Thanks for suggestion, however, I may have worded my statement incorrectly. I meant to say that My phone would charge to 100% and the status bar displayed it as 100% but, the health and total capacity of the battery in mah was not the maximum 3600 or so due to simple wear and tare. It isn't apparent within any stock android feature however, battery monitoring apps like accubattery gather statistics after several charging sessions and estimate the current mah capacity. Mine was much lower than the default oem stated value of 3600. So my battery could be charged 100% but the 100% is really only 2400 mah lol. It was obvious either way by noticing that after my time using it and the previous owner's bad charging over night habits, that the battery was gradually needing charged more often lol..
I did read about the calibration method before when I was first looking into the battery issues. It seems it is more often done after a new battery is installed.
I screwed up a new battery install at the last second. I had to stop due the tiniest little round metal piece coming off from a very light swipe of my plastic spudger.
It was a very small wire connector piece. Unbelievably irritating. I didn't even finish because I doubt it would work properly. I beleive it is for the rf cable or something not sure. The red one on the left bottom side of the logicboard/motherboard whatever. There are three of them.
I took it apart and put it together a couple times prior to this and in a hurry it popped off and I couldnt find it. I couldnt find out the exact part name online so I could buy one and solder it back on. I did find a site/ supplier that has a plethora of them though. They are tiny coaxial connectors/pins. I didn't look through them all but there are 6,000 some listed under coaxial connectors (RF). https://www.digikey.com/products/en/connectors-interconnects/coaxial-connectors-rf/437?k=coaxial pin
I haven't gotten around to asking samsung or the digikeys support if they could help me find out which it is. They have different sizes and frequency ratings or speeds and such. The phone is packed away until I manage to figure out which pin to buy or if I pull 80$ or so out of my behind and buy a whole new motherboard logic board haha.

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