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HTC Pyramid next Nexus device?

http://briefmobile.com/htc-pyramid-renders-leaked-next-nexus-device
What do you guys think?

What do I think? I think that will be my next phone. Especially if it's Vanilla.

It looks like a hot device & possible upgrade from the N1 someday! Here's the main thread discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939909

No trackball
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Only 768 MB of Ram? Single Core 1.2 GHz?
That's a good upgrade, but not worth all the money for not much of a technology leap.
Maybe if it had 1 GB Ram and a dual core/quad core 1+ GHz processor.

abccg said:
Only 768 MB of Ram? Single Core 1.2 GHz?
That's a good upgrade, but not worth all the money for not much of a technology leap.
Maybe if it had 1 GB Ram and a dual core/quad core 1+ GHz processor.
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Some sites are reporting dual 1.2GHz processors but at this point it's probably just speculation.

If its a dual core, its mine

My money is on the next Nexus device being made by Motorola.

I hope it's not a pentile display like the Atrix.

I really hope that image is a mock up. It's basically an extended nexus minus the trackball.
it looks nice, but not that sexy

Hot looking phone, not worth the upgrade yet IMO.

dual core and a bigger screen ftw. (hope it's dual core)

GldRush98 said:
Hot looking phone, not worth the upgrade yet IMO.
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I would upgrade just to get a N1 with better/working touch.
That said, I prefer AMOLED.

HTC Pyramid will be first HTC's dual core phone. Looks good IMO

htc always rocks....
great devices

Everyone take a look at the back of it. We don't know if its a mock up picture or not, most likely, though I hope it will be like that when it comes to the states. But again, look at the back of your nexus one, then look at another android phone, then look at the pyramid picture. The google logo is google stand alone, which only dedicates to nexus line. Regular android phones don't have that
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No trackball and what looks like no notification lights!!!
Why are we going backwards?

gibosn6594 said:
No trackball and what looks like no notification lights!!!
Why are we going backwards?
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You might as well get used it, if my memory serves me correctly no recently released HTC Android device has a trackball. Actually, not just HTC, the trackball is almost non-existant on Android phones now.

Boswell20 said:
If its a dual core, its mine
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It's got a dual-core 1.2 (per core) Snapdragon aka Scorpion. It's the same SoC in the HP TouchPad; better than Tegra 2.
EDIT: It's way WORSE than Tegra 2..... it's a Cortex A8 device, with an underwhelming GPU
HTC Pyramid benchmarks
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...60-smartbench-2011-result-have-been-revealed/

Don't see the point of single-core, sub-1gb-RAM phones in 2011 ... seriously.
Tegra 3 is coming out in august for pads, christmas for phones. Hoping HTC makes a nice Nexus HD or something out of it for the holidays.
- Tegra 3
- 1gb DDR3
- 16-32gb internal
- micro-sd slot
- 3.7-4.0in HD screen
- no keyboard for the love of God
- same build quality as N1 (not some Dollar-store Nexus S plastic plz)
- NFC or not, don't really care since it won't be widely used until like 2014
- Some sort of LED notification area (not necessarily a trackball, but an LED which we can control the same we do now on the N1... it's MUCH NEEDED!)
- this is a personal choice, but the same button placement (BACK - MENU - HOME - SEARCH) would rock ... I know most phones now have the BACK and MENU inversed...
- Dock support would rock too (same 3-pin system, wtv...)
- Most importantly, Vanilla Android. At that point, I'm guessing it will be Ice Cream [Sandwich?] or J...jello? copyright... wtv... something J.
No use buying a single-core phone in 2011 ! stick to the N1 for now...

Ram discussion on mobile phones

With most new phones having 1 gig standard now, I see the new LG phone announced will be coming with a crazy 2 gig of ram. I'm no technical pro but isn't that a little overkill for a phone? I've never had an issue with 1 gig on my last few phones, and I know ram isn't all that expensive but it seems to be a marketing ploy to me.
anyway, other opinions or thoughts?
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Creating a need is what todays mobile market is about. My point is who actually needs the full power of todays phones, a very small percentage i imagine
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Would be better if they thought about creating faster 1GB RAM chips instead.
But imagine that you have quad-core 1.5GHz CPU and 8 GB of RAM. That would allow you to use full scale linux OS on your smartphone (I know it is possible now, but it's far from useable)

I'd be more impressed with ddr3 ram.
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I would be happy if with increasing all dis horsepower manufactures can focus on increasing the battery backup also.
If MotoRazr Maxx can have 3300 mA battery...NOTE2 should have atleast 5000 mA

The 2GB would definitely be needed if they also increased the max number of tabs in the browser. That alone can eat my 1GB.
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tomksoft said:
Would be better if they thought about creating faster 1GB RAM chips instead.
But imagine that you have quad-core 1.5GHz CPU and 8 GB of RAM. That would allow you to use full scale linux OS on your smartphone (I know it is possible now, but it's far from useable)
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I beg to differ I would say its very useable already but yes faster chips would be a much better root, the more bottle necks you can remove the better

tomksoft said:
Would be better if they thought about creating faster 1GB RAM chips instead.
But imagine that you have quad-core 1.5GHz CPU and 8 GB of RAM. That would allow you to use full scale linux OS on your smartphone (I know it is possible now, but it's far from useable)
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Full scale Linux runs perfectly well on much weaker systems. If you're talking about the Linux-on-Android project, the UI is not very responsive because it's not running natively, but through a painfully slow remote desktop thing. The actual processing that's happening behind the scenes is pretty quick and so it's still very useful.

Depends what you are doing.as to how much memory you need, etc.
Screen resolutions are getting bigger, cameras are higher res, etc. it all adds up to more data to hold on to and move around. Having an extra 0.5GB or 1GB can make a huge difference in some cases (e.g. Photo or video editing on-device.)
Also, Android puts apps to sleep rather than closing them down and releasing the resources by default (only properly disposing of them when more resources are required for a foreground app. Having extra RAM means more can be resident in memory without needing to dispose of anything so that could lead to a slicker UI experience and a phone that seems really fast and responsive.

The thing that disappointed me the most about the s3 was the ram, really ruined it for me. Phones today must have 1.5gb atleast.

pboesboes said:
Full scale Linux runs perfectly well on much weaker systems. If you're talking about the Linux-on-Android project, the UI is not very responsive because it's not running natively, but through a painfully slow remote desktop thing. The actual processing that's happening behind the scenes is pretty quick and so it's still very useful.
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Indeed once we can get a working native X11 desktop running (There are a few projects working hardo n this so its likely it will happen!) it will feel alot quicker, but if you try using command line applications they feel just as snappy as running on a few years old desktop

zacthespack said:
Indeed once we can get a working native X11 desktop running (There are a few projects working hardo n this so its likely it will happen!) it will feel alot quicker, but if you try using command line applications they feel just as snappy as running on a few years old desktop
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Yeah, it's pretty impressive what our phones are capable of.
Having a native desktop would be awesome. The possibilities are... endless!

pboesboes said:
Yeah, it's pretty impressive what our phones are capable of.
Having a native desktop would be awesome. The possibilities are... endless!
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indeed I fell in love with android when I got my HTC Magic (Android 1.5 baby ) its grown up alot but I have always been amazed at how open it is and just hwo much you can do with it

yon222 said:
The thing that disappointed me the most about the s3 was the ram, really ruined it for me. Phones today must have 1.5gb atleast.
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What the herr you going to do w/ 1.5GB of Ram? Run Photoshop CS5 and have 50 apps open lol? You don't need it. It would be nice, but it's not necessary.

Zamboney said:
The 2GB would definitely be needed if they also increased the max number of tabs in the browser. That alone can eat my 1GB.
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What I was about to say too.
I'll sometimes have 5 to 6 tabs open whilst using Instagram and Facebook and drawsomething.

I HAD A BIG DREAM... BUILDING MY EXYNOS QUADCORE DREAM TABLET... Ideas Wanted!!

Hello XDA! Greetings from Berlin. :highfive:
My name is Johann I'm a Berlin based Electronics Engineer.
You may be wondering why I'm posting here... Right? Well... I'm building my big dream... The fastest ever Android QuadCore tablet based on an Exynos SOC. Yes, the 4412.
Is there anybody here who wants to give me some suggestions?
From now on, my team and I have successfully integrated the SOC, a GPS + BT module, and, an HD Screen.
What would you like to see on a tablet?

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Hello XDA! Greetings from Berlin. :highfive:
My name is Johann I'm a Berlin based Electronics Engineer.
You may be wondering why I'm posting here... Right? Well... I'm building my big dream... The fastest ever Android QuadCore tablet based on an Exynos SOC. Yes, the 4412.
Is there anybody here who wants to give me some suggestions?
From now on, my team and I have successfully integrated the SOC, a GPS + BT module, and, an HD Screen.
What would you like to see on a tablet?
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Isn't that essentially the Note 10.1?

Well first let me say this is the coolest thing i've seen on here, i know nothing about phone/tablet hardware but i know a LOT about computer hardware, since this is a tablet would a laptop GPU work in it? Also if possible you should try and take a 4G antenna from another tablet and put it in here, Also could you give us detailed specs? Like the PPI and such of the screen?

Product F(RED) said:
Isn't that essentially the Note 10.1?
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Mmm... Yes... but the size of the screen will be 8" or 9.7", and, we're building it to never exceed the 159USD as our target price on Bill Of Materials Any suggestion will be appreciated. Thanks for writing!

PantechBurstOwner said:
Well first let me say this is the coolest thing i've seen on here, i know nothing about phone/tablet hardware but i know a LOT about computer hardware, since this is a tablet would a laptop GPU work in it? Also if possible you should try and take a 4G antenna from another tablet and put it in here, Also could you give us detailed specs? Like the PPI and such of the screen?
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Hi PantechBurstOwner
That's a good idea. We've been researching about the 4G module, and, actually testing it.
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
For the 4G modem, the main challange is to find a module thin enough to fit on the casing. On the picture attached you can see the left prototype has 3G module in (A 4G one will fit too), and, the right one is much thinner, and, a 4G module doesn't fit

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Hi PantechBurstOwner
That's a good idea. We've been researching about the 4G module, and, actually testing it.
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
For the 4G modem, the main challange is to find a module thin enough to fit on the casing. On the picture attached you can see the left prototype has 3G module in (A 4G one will fit too), and, the right one is much thinner, and, a 4G module doesn't fit
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I think the dimensions of the nexus 7 is prefect, yours looks a bit more like kindle fire HD, personally not a fan of it but I'd still use it . Also what are your plans for the speakers and GPU?

PantechBurstOwner said:
I think the dimensions of the nexus 7 is prefect, yours looks a bit more like kindle fire HD, personally not a fan of it but I'd still use it . Also what are your plans for the speakers and GPU?
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Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?

Cyanogenmod would be great, if it's smaller though (think 7 inches) think Paranoid Android.
What would really differentiate it, would be if you already had a dual boot preinstalled on it with a little taste of everything. i.e. MIUI, CM10, and one more ultra customizable ROM (I suppose CM10) with themes that could be applied straight through the software. I understand this would probably be a pain to do, but it would make your tablet the MOST versatile tablet out there.
Also, consider like Asus, you may want to consider shoving a port on the bottom for a keyboard dock. Big fan of keyboards...
(Yes I understand I'm practically spamming you with ideas and not many of them are possible, nonetheless, lots of ideas are better than none... no?)

JSchlossstein said:
Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?
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some magical custom firmware with an awesome name, also whats the specs on the battery?

JSchlossstein said:
Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?
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Would you consider a proposal to the cyanogenmod team? It'll be nice to see a highly customizable stock firmware on a tablet..

Big +1
Ain't using separate 4G module too expensive? I don't think there should be any problem in fitting it onboard if you integrate it into one PCB design.
I'd like to see all unused cpu I/Os breaked out into set of pads onboard and documented, like UART, second USB port, I2C bus, FIMC interfaces and so on.
Also, don't get me wrong but if this project doesn't get realised (I really wish it does) - please publish non-NDA documentation. :]

MicroSD, maybe a USB port (unless it's too thick). Sounds pretty siiiick

This goes straight to my Christmas wish list!
But instead of a crippled Cyanogenmod I'd rather see dual-booting to Ubuntu and perhaps some Linaro builds. Staying close to Samsung SGS3 stock, may be a good idea for compatibility issues.
USB3 + HDMI + Front-facing Cam + JTAG over USB support (1149.7, NIDnT) + possibly UART HW debug
But perhaps more importantly, everything should be easily accessible from outside your platform so we can help hacking it back into shape when something goes wrong! Second, make sure we can freely mess with the boot configuration... I'd be happy to help sponsoring the low profile SMT DIP switch for boot config.
If you have space problems you should seriously consider using a quad-core (Krait) Snapdragon S4 Pro (MSM8960T) PoP SoC instead. Because if not, you'll need external modem support. So in your current configuration, what modem are you using? If you use the Intel XMM6260 you'll need a lot more support components, AFAICT, unless their new flagship (XMM7160) has managed even more integration somehow.
Good Luck!

so how long does the battery last? like how many mah or whatever it is lol also what would be cool is dual booting instead of ubuntu dual boot to windows 8, also a built in stand=somuchwin

Exynos 4 going to be outdated soon.
Regardless, I hope this tablet sees the light of day. A tablet that lets you easily install custom ROMs by default has been long overdue.
(Or, yes, an ubuntu tablet, though I'm not sure if even A15 would be fast enough.)

NFC, it HAS TO HAVE NFC dont build it into the back cover, if i were to get this i would paint the back and throw some LED's in it, i cant do that with my nexus 7
Edit: what processor is this?!!!!! http://gyazo.com/b8e91207a4115e1c91b2d0164c52cbc1

Well, this is a great idea First I would consider not using 4G if you don't want to go in an expensive way... I would also consider using Stock Android ROM for the fans out there (like for example with the G Nexus) Processor you can use the powerful one from the Galaxy Note 10.1, but I also like tegra processors.
Subscribing to this thread!

PantechBurstOwner said:
Edit: what processor is this?!!!!! http://gyazo.com/b8e91207a4115e1c91b2d0164c52cbc1
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It's the "latest" ST-Ericsson NovaThor LP9600 (aka Nova A9600)!
2.5GHz, 28 nm Technology. Dual ARM Cortex-A9 Harvard Superscalar processor core, Multi-layer AHB/AXI bus, ARM TrustZone, ARM NEON SIMD engine, dual-channel LP-DDR2 SD RAM interface, 1080p HDMI, Rogue GPU, 1080p video encode, 1080p video decode, 3D HD video capture and display, QXGA display support, Dual camera support up to 20 Mpixel and 5 Mpixel, USB 2.0
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But because of ST-Ericssons financial troubles, it's unlikely we'll see any full scale production of this chip within the next 6 months...if ever.

What about screen?

JSchlossstein said:
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
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That's the screen currently its like 8 or 9.7" and he said make suggestions if you can lol
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64 Bit K1?

So the Nexus 9 is supposed to have a 64 bit Tegra K1, anyone else find it anoying that the Shield wasnt released with this?

The Shield was released in July, looks like the Nexus 9 will be released in November. Maybe wasn't ready in time?

The nexus Won't be 64 bit.

It remains to be seen whether Nvidia's CPU architecture in the Denver is up to snuff, given they're using an architecture that hasn't really been successfully implemented in the past (in order compiling). I'd wait until devices with it are in users hands before feeling disappointed in the lack of the 64-bit K1 in our Shields.

ShrekOpher said:
The nexus Won't be 64 bit.
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check again
http://www.google.com/nexus/9/

USBhost said:
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http://www.google.com/nexus/9/
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It is 399 for a 16gb with NO MicroSD slot though or 499 for one with NO MicroSD slot still

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Looks like I was wrong, but with only 2GB of RAM it is not going to be a noticeable improve over other K1 devices. Seems more like a beta test to me than an actually full 64bit use case.

ShrekOpher said:
Looks like I was wrong, but with only 2GB of RAM it is not going to be a noticeable improve over other K1 devices. Seems more like a beta test to me than an actually full 64bit use case.
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how can something be half. its either 32 vs 64
But if you look at the newer apple products they are 64 and only have 1GB of RAM

USBhost said:
how can something be half. its either 32 vs 64
But if you look at the newer apple products they are 64 and only have 1GB of RAM
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The main point of using 64bit is to be able to properly take advantage of systems that have more than 4GB of RAM.
There are benefits to having a 64bit system besides that, but in all reality they will not even be notifiable on a machine with only 2GB of RAM.
Basically Giggle is using the Nexus 9 to pilot 64bit Android and allow devs to build apps for that new setup. And end user will not recognize the difference until there are phone/tablets/android laptops with more than 4GB of RAM.
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I think it has 4GB
ShrekOpher said:
The main point of using 64bit is to be able to properly take advantage of systems that have more than 4GB of RAM.
There are benefits to having a 64bit system besides that, but in all reality they will not even be notifiable on a machine with only 2GB of RAM.
Basically Giggle is using the Nexus 9 to pilot 64bit Android and allow devs to build apps for that new setup. And end user will not recognize the difference until there are phone/tablets/android laptops with more than 4GB of RAM.
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I was on flipboard a while ago and I'm sure I read that the nexus 9 will have 4GB not 2GB. I didnt like that since I just got my shield tablet, but games are super fast with no lag so I will not complain to much

Moeali8 said:
I was on flipboard a while ago and I'm sure I read that the nexus 9 will have 4GB not 2GB. I didnt like that since I just got my shield tablet, but games are super fast with no lag so I will not complain to much
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Well rumors are just that. Google on their own page is touting 2 gb of ram so there's no difference there between that and the shield tablet. Supposedly the denver core K1 though will be an emulation MONSTER its an in order processor, but it is 7x superscalar. Since pretty much all emulation is single threaded the hope is that it will be able to run the dolphin emulator with decent framerates on a tablet. All in all i'm glad I chose the shield, at 399 for 32 gb and lte I think its a very competitive price. Sure the nexus 9 has a larger screen and higher resolution, but i like the 8" form factor i wouldn't be able to fit anything else in my pocket. We probably won't see a whole lot of apps that truly are optimized for 64 bit instruction set for a while, until it becomes the norm. Also the expandable memory and the stylus are pretty awesome. I do wonder though if Nvidia is going to make available Half-Life 2 and Portal to the nexus 9, IMO they'd be foolish not to. Also Gamestream and Shield Controller support is something that I think they should offer support for with all their OEMs that use thier SOC's but i really doubt that will happen.

RAM is not the main reason to use 64-bit processors. That's only one of many benefits.
However, the N9 will not have a great benefit. Currently there is more out there that supports Quad-Core more than it supports 64-bit. The architecture does offer multiple benefits, but it really won't help much currently.
Also to note, the N9 will be a DUAL-CORE K1. Nvidia calls it a "Dual Super Core", but when you break it down... It's a dual-core SoC.
Maybe in a year or two we might see some real world improvements that the N9 gets over the Shield Tablet, but currently they'll be nearly identical.
It offers 64-bit, but lacks a number of K1 benefits (as has been stated above). For the price and what you get, the Shield Tablet wins out any day over the N9.
Also, anyone that thinks the main reason for 64-bit is to be able to recognize 4+GB of RAM... Please do some research. There are SO MANY other, more important advances. RAM is only a small piece of a very large puzzle for 64-bit architecture.

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Well rumors are just that. Google on their own page is touting 2 gb of ram so there's no difference there between that and the shield tablet. Supposedly the denver core K1 though will be an emulation MONSTER its an in order processor, but it is 7x superscalar. Since pretty much all emulation is single threaded the hope is that it will be able to run the dolphin emulator with decent framerates on a tablet. All in all i'm glad I chose the shield, at 399 for 32 gb and lte I think its a very competitive price. Sure the nexus 9 has a larger screen and higher resolution, but i like the 8" form factor i wouldn't be able to fit anything else in my pocket. We probably won't see a whole lot of apps that truly are optimized for 64 bit instruction set for a while, until it becomes the norm. Also the expandable memory and the stylus are pretty awesome. I do wonder though if Nvidia is going to make available Half-Life 2 and Portal to the nexus 9, IMO they'd be foolish not to. Also Gamestream and Shield Controller support is something that I think they should offer support for with all their OEMs that use thier SOC's but i really doubt that will happen.
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I agree and I'm happy with my wifi only, wish they had a 32gb wifi option not just the lte but the external sd card works

The shield tablet has a magnesium plate to cool the cpu for no throttling the nexus 9 will not have this and will throttle and lag in games like hell.

rubene66 said:
The shield tablet has a magnesium plate to cool the cpu for no throttling the nexus 9 will not have this and will throttle and lag in games like hell.
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My dear friend
the whole tablet will cool it down
you know its metal

The borders is metal the rest is plastic
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My dear friend
the whole tablet will cool it down
you know its metal
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rubene66 said:
The shield tablet has a magnesium plate to cool the cpu for no throttling the nexus 9 will not have this and will throttle and lag in games like hell.
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Is this really true?

Let's just wait for the reviews anandtech test well that we will see.
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Is this really true?
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Is this really true?
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It's true that the shield is built with a large magnesium heat plate designed by Nvidia for optimal heat displacement. I would guess they probably worked with HTC some too though.
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Hopefully with Lollipop SD card restrictions previously applied by Apple, I mean Google, in KitKat will be lifted.

Shield k1 (2)? Marshmallow? 199 bucks?

http://m.androidcentral.com/nvidia-announces-shield-tablet-k1-refreshed-model-new-low-price
Smart move I guess. Throw it in a different box and pretend it's new. Sounds like an htc stunt. This makes sense though, considering the battery issue with this model.
http://m.androidcentral.com/nvidia-...pdate-shield-tablet-k1-original-shield-tablet
But as of now we are confirmed for marshmallow probably after the holidays, which is all I really care about. I gotta have that marshmallow!
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Its technically still one of the best android tablets for CPU and GPU. I would of loved to have seen it with the Tegra X1 but with the tablet market not really strong, even apple is having issues with the market, I can understand not updating it.

It's truly seems to be one of the best performing tablets at this price point, i'am very interested in it vs Nexus 9, what would be your opinion? Only thing i'am concerned in is screen ratio, how good it is for e-book reading? And is there enough estate for general browsing? I own some pretty crappy Chinese 10" Onda tablet and looking for an upgrade. Though i don't know if i would use Shields gaming environment to the max.

NoOneLt said:
It's truly seems to be one of the best performing tablets at this price point, i'am very interested in it vs Nexus 9, what would be your opinion? Only thing i'am concerned in is screen ratio, how good it is for e-book reading? And is there enough estate for general browsing? I own some pretty crappy Chinese 10" Onda tablet and looking for an upgrade. Though i don't know if i would use Shields gaming environment to the max.
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As long as you know how to change the system DPI to 240 then its great, I personally hate the stock DPI that they put on it, with the stock DPI it literally just feels like an enlarged phone. But as soon as you change it to 240 then its great.

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It's truly seems to be one of the best performing tablets at this price point, i'am very interested in it vs Nexus 9, what would be your opinion? Only thing i'am concerned in is screen ratio, how good it is for e-book reading? And is there enough estate for general browsing? I own some pretty crappy Chinese 10" Onda tablet and looking for an upgrade. Though i don't know if i would use Shields gaming environment to the max.
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I use mine for reading books, specifically pdf books of networking materials, and it works really well for that. The screen is amazing for comics. The tablet is a gaming beast and not much can touch its gpu capabilities. Admittedly, I don't do much gaming but I did do a playthrough of ff9 with ePSXe without a HITCH. It's without a doubt a gaming beast when it comes to android devices.
A small comparison lists of the things that are different between Nexus 9 and Shield Tablet:
Nexus 9 vs Shield Tablet
Screen
Nexus: 8.9in, 2048x1536
Shield Tablet: 8in, 1920x1200
Expandable storage
Nexus: None
Shield Tablet: up to 128gb microsd card
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Nexus: 64 bit
Shield tablet: 32 bit
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Same
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Same
Speakers:
Shield tablet wins hands down
Android updates:
Nexus still has at least 2 more years of android updates
Shield Tablet is getting marshmallow for sure but the next one after is more than likely but not guaranteed.
Fair warning though:
The custom roms on this device have audio issues that happen randomly and it can be annoying. I haven't found a rom that don't have this issue, some are worst than others. There hasn't been a solution to it either from what I've seen.

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The nexus 9 has a better resolution, 2048x1536 vs the 1920x1200 on the shield. The CPUs are a 64bit 2.3Ghz dual core on the N9 and a 32bit 2.2 Quad on the ST. I haven't used an N9 so I can't really add anymore than that.

The shield has an SD card slot, front facing speakers, and wide screen. I read ebooks all the time on the shield and think it's perfect for that. The nexus might get slightly better battery life, but not much more. I was deciding between the two and picked the shield because with the thinner screen I can type very well with my thumbs. My 10.1 tablet is just too big to type on. I imagine with the wider screen the nexus would have that same problem. I would buy the shield for 300 bucks right now if I didn't own one so at 200 it's a steal.
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And what about x32 vs x64 on Nexus, though dual core? What is the future of it? Is it possible that at some point after a year Nexus will have better performance because of x64?

Probably when all tablet and smartphone are x64...they, maybe, developera start to create app that take advantage of x64 CPU...
But there is the possibility that they start to use gpgpu even on smartphone and this is an advantage for tegra hardware
Nobody knows...

Yeah it's hard to say. But at 200 bucks the shield blows away anything in its price range. And I much prefer the wide screen and front facing speakers. I spent a lot of time debating the nexus and the shield in my head and I just didn't want a 4:3 and I really wanted an SD card slot.
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NoOneLt said:
And what about x32 vs x64 on Nexus, though dual core? What is the future of it? Is it possible that at some point after a year Nexus will have better performance because of x64?
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They're equal for multicore performance but the single core performance is much stronger with the 64bit variant. In everyday use, you won't notice it.

nbollinger said:
They're equal for multicore performance but the single core performance is much stronger with the 64bit variant. In everyday use, you won't notice it.
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Thats the thing, most of the users of this tablet use it for gaming. Its a shame the new tablet doesn't have 64bit, but at least it is worth the price.

According to this benchmarks seems like if i would not care about Shield PC streaming or exclusive game in pure performance Nexus is doing better? As i see single core almost 2x better and this would be utilized most in applications not optimized for multi-core? And multi-core is around the same level...
But maybe Marshmallow on Shield could bring another results.

I wait for Shield Tablet 2

Had both, but sold the N9 some weeks ago. My problem with it was, i play a lot WOT Blitz and on the Nexus with max graphics the fps drops from 60 to between 50 and 35 after some minutes of gaming. But the Shield Tab stays most of the time on 60fps and if it drops its still between 50-60 fps and this with maxed out Graphics!

cyraxx84 said:
Had both, but sold the N9 some weeks ago. My problem with it was, i play a lot WOT Blitz and on the Nexus with max graphics the fps drops from 60 to between 50 and 35 after some minutes of gaming. But the Shield Tab stays most of the time on 60fps and if it drops its still between 50-60 fps and this with maxed out Graphics!
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That's pretty interesting, nexus and shield tablet have the same gpu.

nbollinger said:
That's pretty interesting, nexus and shield tablet have the same gpu.
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Nexus 9 put more pressure on GPU with higher screen resolution and use a dual core CPU

Anyone who has the K1 can you answer some questions for me?
Does your bottom speaker move? i noticed earlier that I can make it click by pressing on it lightly :S also is there only 1 speaker behind each grill? the speaker on the top I can feel the vibration of how loud it is but the bottom one I can't.
Think it's faulty but that's why i'm asking.

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