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How many updates did the Nexus One have from its release last year up until now? In general, how many updates can we expect from Google in a year's time? One of the biggest draws of the Nexus S is undoubtedly the direct Google updates, so I'm just curious to know how many we're estimated to get before the next Nexus comes out, presumably around this time 2011 (basically a year's time).
http://briefmobile.com/guaranteed-android-updates-for-18-months
Google announced at I/O that a bunch of partners have agreed to update all devices that are capable to the latest Android version within 18 months! And also ICS is going to be released Q4 this year...
My thought is that Motorola has been waiting on ICS hopefully rather than GB, though either way we'll have ICS before the pseudo-apocalypse!
EDIT: Article has a typo, actual statement was that updates will be guaranteed for all new and capable devices for 18 months.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/android-momentum-mobile-and-more-at.html
18 months.. that's more than a year and a half.. lol by that time i'd have a phone that has the latest version :|. possibly an unlocked bootloader as well lol
We've at least been told by Moto that we'll get Gingerbread and an unlocked bootloader this year, and I believe that is still a reasonable claim
Yeah, 18 months to upgrade this thing to 2.3? If they would unlock the phone and release the code it would be done in a few days by the dev community.
KefkaticFanatic said:
http://briefmobile.com/guaranteed-android-updates-for-18-months
Google announced at I/O that a bunch of partners have agreed to update all devices that are capable to the latest Android version within 18 months! And also ICS is going to be released Q4 this year...
My thought is that Motorola has been waiting on ICS hopefully rather than GB, though either way we'll have ICS before the pseudo-apocalypse!
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The key here is "within 18 months"! I believe this offers nothing, as most of us will have moved on to new devices before we have had them for 18 months after release. Now, if they said within 6 months, then we would know that whenever we bought a new device the most we would have to wait for the latest update would be 6 months.
"Good news for Android users waiting for updates: this kind of long wait and anticipation game may finally be over. Google’s announced at I/O 2011 that a plethora of partners (seen above) will be giving the latest Android updates to all devices in the future within eighteen months. The only catch is that updates will be received only “if the device can handle it.”
Sounds like good news for developers worrying about fragmentation. But, users will also be able to reap the benefits as carriers and manufacturers are more forcefully pushed towards updates."
KefkaticFanatic said:
We've at least been told by Moto that we'll get Gingerbread and an unlocked bootloader this year, and I believe that is still a reasonable claim
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not really..
The article is wrong and misquoted the announcement. If you watched the keynote you'd have seen what they really said.
"So today we’re announcing that a founding team of industry leaders, including many from the Open Handset Alliance, are working together to adopt guidelines for how quickly devices are updated after a new platform release, and also for how long they will continue to be updated. The founding partners are Verizon, HTC, Samsung, Sprint, Sony Ericsson, LG, T-Mobile, Vodafone, Motorola and AT&T, and we welcome others to join us. To start, we're jointly announcing that new devices from participating partners will receive the latest Android platform upgrades for 18 months after the device is first released, as long as the hardware allows...and that's just the beginning. Stay tuned for more details."
Updates provided for 18 months, not within 18 months.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/android-momentum-mobile-and-more-at.html
CaelanT said:
The key here is "within 18 months"! I believe this offers nothing, as most of us will have moved on to new devices before we have had them for 18 months after release. Now, if they said within 6 months, then we would know that whenever we bought a new device the most we would have to wait for the latest update would be 6 months.
"Good news for Android users waiting for updates: this kind of long wait and anticipation game may finally be over. Google’s announced at I/O 2011 that a plethora of partners (seen above) will be giving the latest Android updates to all devices in the future within eighteen months. The only catch is that updates will be received only “if the device can handle it.”
Sounds like good news for developers worrying about fragmentation. But, users will also be able to reap the benefits as carriers and manufacturers are more forcefully pushed towards updates."
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It's not updating to latest within 18 months...
Its updating to lastest version quickly.. FOR the first 18 months.. so you might get multi updatas in that 18 months.. but arnt promised anything after the phone has been out for 18 months... all in all pretty good news for us though... att and Motorola are partners with google on it.
I'll be happy when I finally get at least ONE "Official update" from Bell. (and more importantly a stock SBF to fall back on already!)
Hopefully Bell can figure out how to do that in 18 months...
shriva said:
It's not updating to latest within 18 months...
Its updating to lastest version quickly.. FOR the first 18 months.. so you might get multi updatas in that 18 months.. but arnt promised anything after the phone has been out for 18 months... all in all pretty good news for us though... att and Motorola are partners with google on it.
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It makes a lot of sense. 18 months is getting close to the life of a phone. So they keep you updated, then make you buy a new one when you can renew your contract.
I guess it works out well for both parties? We get updates frequently for most of the life of our phones, but they still get their upgrades.
Thanks bwshockley for clearing that up!
Heck, they announced. "Ice cream" for Q4 2011.. Atrix may even get that!
Can't wait till they let us know what timely/quickly means though.. but its going in the right direction.. google doing something at least to get them to update quicker.
It also say NEW devices will be supported, that would mean the Atrix would not actually fall under the new guidelines i.e. there would be no guarantee that it'll get Ice Cream Sandwich. Gingerbread is guaranteed only because they specifically stated it a while back, but when is completely up to Moto.
Yea I see. Silly misinterpretation. That's what I get for taking a bagel break away from the live stream!
However, I still believe that we'll get GB and perhaps even ICS by the end of this year. And if not, the bootloader will hopefully be unlocked so we won't have to worry about it.
Yeah I don't see them waiting for ICS to do a version upgrade, by then, a fair amount of people will have looked at other devices.
1/5 stars for misinformation. Please update op to say this is speculation.
bwshockley said:
The article is wrong and misquoted the announcement. If you watched the keynote you'd have seen what they really said.
"So today we’re announcing that a founding team of industry leaders, including many from the Open Handset Alliance, are working together to adopt guidelines for how quickly devices are updated after a new platform release, and also for how long they will continue to be updated. The founding partners are Verizon, HTC, Samsung, Sprint, Sony Ericsson, LG, T-Mobile, Vodafone, Motorola and AT&T, and we welcome others to join us. To start, we're jointly announcing that new devices from participating partners will receive the latest Android platform upgrades for 18 months after the device is first released, as long as the hardware allows...and that's just the beginning. Stay tuned for more details."
Updates provided for 18 months, not within 18 months.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/android-momentum-mobile-and-more-at.html
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I stand corrected! Muchos gracias!
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Someone ask this on the official support forums for the atrix.
bearsfan172 said:
It makes a lot of sense. 18 months is getting close to the life of a phone. So they keep you updated, then make you buy a new one when you can renew your contract.
I guess it works out well for both parties? We get updates frequently for most of the life of our phones, but they still get their upgrades.
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Actually upgrades work in our favor since they dont make crap on the phone. They only make money on the data service which is outrageously priced.
Rule of thumb.
Buy Google Flagship or htc to get all the upgrade love.
I hope moto dies.
Even tho ICS is mostly in the beta stage for the EVO 4G,Android 5.0 might be pushed out in the summer to beat windows to the punch on the realese of windows 8 for tablets so soon we might get some new goodies for Evo 4g and other devices.
Not likely, though Google execs implied that it could be rolling out in the fall.
"After Android 4 comes 5, and we haven't announced the timing yet, which we're still sorting out," Lockheimer said in an interview with Computerworld on Monday. "There's a lot of engineering work still behind it -- and there's also the question of how to time it.
"In general," he added. "the Android release cadence is one major release a year with some maintenance releases that are substantial still."
That statement would imply a fall 2012 release of Android 5.0, given that Android 4.0 was released last November, he acknowledged.
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http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9224653/Android_5.0_could_come_in_fall_Google_exec_implies
Summer would be cool though
Google will most likely try to get 5.0 out close to the time win8 and the iphoney 5 are released to compete with them im thinking probably early to mid summer since last year we had 2 releases gb at beginning of year and ICS towards the end 5.0 was actually put into development shortly after ICS was but is apparently alot more complex than any previous builds and may even be capable of running on other platforms such as home computers similar to win8
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Hey,
While they might complete android 5.0 early they wont release it till other phones with windows and Ios put out their new software just to keep the market competitive, as cool as it would be to get it early! But we just are getting ics, so we can wait for the latest greatest!
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You can call me a Nexus fanboy I have owned all four Nexus phones every year, liked them all, some more than others. Right now I find the Nexus 4 a good upgrade over the Galaxy Nexus, the N4 has better battery life, a nicer screen once calibrated, and hardware wise much faster and smoother. But at the end of the day, the two phones are not night day radically different.
But some years a Nexus phone is light years ahead of the previous Nexus, I don't feel that with the Nexus 4 over the Galaxy Nexus. Just going on basics, the shape and design of the GNex and N4 are pretty much the same, from afar they look almost the same, and OS wise, not a major difference either, GNex launching with the all new 4.0 ICS, and N4 with JB 4.2, but still, both look pretty much the same with the Holo design etc..
For me the major jaw dropping difference was going from my Nexus-S to Galaxy Nexus, that felt like a major leap forward. The Nexus-S launched as 4" low res screen with Gingerbread, and the Galaxy Nexus launched with the all new ICS 4.0 with a 720p display. When I first got the Galaxy Nexus, and turned it on, I was blown away by it, the high resolution was amazing for the time, and ICS was a huge update over the Nexus-S Gingerbread, it was an amazing big difference in just one year. The two phones were night an day apart.
Again I am comparing them, at what they looked liked, and came with at launch originally. The Nexus-S compared to Galaxy Nexus was HUGE difference, the Galaxy Nexus compared to Nexus 4 not as much.
So what do you think is in store this Fall with the Nexus-Five ? A major leap forward like the N-S to GNex ? Or more of a minor update like GNex to N4 ?
Depends on who the partner is, if HTC I will probably snap the 5 up as HTC know how to make beautiful phones however the N4 is beautiful itself. But I'm assuming it will be faster, etc etc than the current N4 although this phone will last ages to be honest. However tech does move on and whatever the next Nexus is it will be better for that time period boasting newer tech.
I think could go either way. The Nexus-Five could be a major upgrade like N-S to Gnex or just minor like GNex to N4.
I am leaning towards thinking more of a major upgrade due to; Nexus-Five will have a 1080p screen, most likely 4.8" to 5", that's a big update, over the last two Nexus phones both having 4.7" 720p screens. And it will have the all new next generation Android 5,0 Key Lime Pie. Should be a big update there, being a whole new point release. And lastly rumors of the N5 having 3100mAh or so sized battery, that alone would be a huge upgrade in battery life.
Also the big question is, who will be the manufacturer of the new Nexus-Five ? Way to early to say now, but strong rumors of LG again, based off their Optimus Pro phone, but with updated internals, and a 5" screen. Or would not be surprised to see Sony get a shot at making it, and a distant third is getting HTC back into the Nexus game.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198731
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2199130
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2194960
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2193042
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2102545
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158618
Yay, more Nexus 5 rumors and speculation. There are no hard facts that can be added to this discussion. If another Nexus released, it's going to be an upgrade from the current Nexus 4. This is a given, considering it will be another year after the Nexus 4 released that technology has had to improve, become more cost effective, etc. Aside from that, we cannot really say for sure whether Google is even planning on releasing another Nexus device (although it is extremely likely), much less what it will be like.
Release month ? All Nexus phones have been released Nov / Dec, in the Fall. But with rumors of Android 5.0 KLP being shown off at this May's Google I/O, some are saying that 5.0 might be released shortly after, in June ?
Do you think we will just get an early preview of 5.0 only, not a nearby release, with the official 5.0 release set to launch with the all new Nexus-Five in the Fall ? Or could Google surprise us, and have the Nexus-Five with 5.0 ready for an early Summer release ?
Zorachus said:
Release month ? All Nexus phones have been released Nov / Dec, in the Fall. But with rumors of Android 5.0 KLP being shown off at this May's Google I/O, some are saying that 5.0 might be released shortly after, in June ?
Do you think we will just get an early preview of 5.0 only, not a nearby release, with the official 5.0 release set to launch with the all new Nexus-Five in the Fall ? Or could Google surprise us, and have the Nexus-Five with 5.0 ready for an early Summer release ?
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If I were to speculate, I would say a newer version of Android, which may or may not be Android 4.3 or 5.0 or w/e they decide to number it (it doesn't matter at all), would be released at I/O as they usually do. Or they may not. Once again, it doesn't matter. Google doesn't release a new phone every time a new version of Android is released.
Jan 2010 - Android 2.1 Eclair released on December 6, 2010 was first used on the Nexus One
May 2010 - Android 2.2 Froyo, no device
December 2010 - Android 2.3 Gingerbread, Nexus S
February 2011 - Android 3.0-3.2 Honeycomb, Motorola Xoom (not that it really counts, in my book)
October 2011 - Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, Galaxy Nexus
July 2012 - Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, Nexus 7
November 2012 - Android 4.2 Jelly Bean, Nexus 4
Going by history, a new version of Android is fairly likely, with a possible tablet (maybe an update to the Nexus 7). With three straight Nexus phones being released in Q4, a new phone is more likely towards the end of the year. However, this goes back to being entirely speculation and conjecture, and none of us are privy to Google's plans for the future. We can only look at the past, which shows that about twice a year Google releases major updates to Android, with one phone a year, in between October and January.
How long do you think we will need to wait?
Next year probably knowing Samsung. They support their flagships for about 6 months before they're completely forgotten about.
They're still rolling out 5.0 to some of their devices. The problem with Samsung is just last year they released 56 different mobile/tablet devices - How do you continue support for all of those?
It's the one thing I love about Apple - One device for the whole world, one device to update, nice and simple!
Agreed, and I am aware of their track record. I have seen a new urgency to get updates done quickly however, and given this will be their newest device I am hoping the ups are will drop quickly.
after the s7 comes out prob