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[Q] Purchase current Iconia or wait?

Ok so I've been wanting to get a tegra2-3 based tablet and the transformer prime is epic fail :/ soooo I've been watching sites like woot and have noticed that all the refurbs w/ the Iconia 500 are ~300$
I'm just not sure if its worth getting an refurb 32gb A500, old transformer, A200, or the new Acer tablets that come out in Q2?
I read the tablet is kinda heavy but honestly I just don't know if the thickness of the will be a bad thing plus no IPS on the old and new display, so I'm not sure if I should wait or get the new model.

The iconia is a great tablet. That said, the tech available now is always cheaper and has the bird in the hand advantage. The stuff available tomorrow is always shinier and flashier. You have to drop the hammer sometime, do you want a great tab now or a possibly greater one in 6 months?
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The Iconia A510 is announced for March with Tegra III and a battery capacity of 9.800 mAh, which is more than 30% higher than that of the A500. I would wait for the A510, as it will provide much better perfromance for presumably 100 bucks more.
Best regards, maris

I Would wait unless you get a great deal
maris__ said:
The Iconia A510 is announced for March with Tegra III and a battery capacity of 9.800 mAh, which is more than 30% higher than that of the A500. I would wait for the A510, as it will provide much better perfromance for presumably 100 bucks more.
Best regards, maris
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If you just WANT!!!! the tablet i would wait .. if you have to have it Wait. Wait until they are released and see if they are rooted..See how Development for such tablet pans out..But as stated above waiting for the next best thing will likely keep you without a tablet . I usually wait and buy when its closer to end of life and prices have dropped. I did pre order my a500. only regret is updates being so slow and the device being locked down by acer. thou this has mostly been over come.
So i would wait unless I found a very awesome Deal...
As far as the 9.800 mAh Battery.. of course is has a more powerful batter . Its processor is way more double.. if YOU LOOK At in perspective . IT Will be less Battery life compared to the battery in the a500.. So im guessing it will be about equal...
Sorry to kill your battery run time theory. Thou the t 3 has a added advantage to suspend mode. with there 5 th core. I will not get into that here

Try searching google for pc parts ohio.... I bet if you look at their "tablets" inventory.... you might find something to change your mind and make you buy an Iconia a500 right NOW. I did.... i'll never regret it!

erica_renee said:
IT Will be less Battery life compared to the battery in the a500.. So im guessing it will be about equal...
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Don't think so. Several blogs mention a battery life of 18 hours. This is of course an exaggeration, but suggests that a longer battery life can be expected compared with the A500, which has a battery life of 11 hours according to official specs.
Best regards, maris

Just get juice defender and love your battery for who he/she is ^_^.

The A500 has the most bang for your buck and is one of the better mid-range tablets, but it isn't without issues.
I got the 16 GB model for about $320 (new) several months back and would still get it again as of today (i.e. if I lost or broke my tablet). However, with a slew of Tegra 3's around the corner you can bet the price for these last-generation models will fall even more.
If you can wait until April then you will save another $50-100 if you go with the A500. Then again, you may fall in love with the new ones. It all depends if you need/want a tablet computer now (I do).
Now, that said.... I do have some minor issues with the A500 after using it for 6 months. The microphone is completely useless due to a design flaw, and the screen is not as vivid as the Samsung or Motorola counterparts. If money was no object I probably would have gotten the XOOM.... but at the end of the day I also enjoy seeing that extra $200 in my pocket that I saved by getting the A500.

In the reviews at least it was mentioned multiple times that the xoom screen was worse than the a500 and the sammy/asus had the best. Though I'm going to prob get a refurb tablet now w/ a large warranty so I can get a larger mem cap + add a sdhc card. If I waited I'd need to pay an extra 200$, but the A510 might be better so yeah im completely unsure. Sadly the Flyer is the only tablet I've seen that can use an actual pen like object to accurately write notes with.
Also does anyone have an ipad and a500? I've been trying to find a thickness comparison for a while but google has failed me. I don't want an ipad, I just know the overall dimensions to compare.

spaghetti_monster said:
In the reviews at least it was mentioned multiple times that the xoom screen was worse than the a500 and the sammy/asus had the best. Though I'm going to prob get a refurb tablet now w/ a large warranty so I can get a larger mem cap + add a sdhc card. If I waited I'd need to pay an extra 200$, but the A510 might be better so yeah im completely unsure. Sadly the Flyer is the only tablet I've seen that can use an actual pen like object to accurately write notes with.
Also does anyone have an ipad and a500? I've been trying to find a thickness comparison for a while but google has failed me. I don't want an ipad, I just know the overall dimensions to compare.
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I haven't used the Asus except for a few minutes in BB, but I heard they had some pretty bad ghosting issues that ours didn't have.
As far as the iPad comparison, I believe ours is pretty close size-wise, if not just a bit smaller than the iPad. I'm sure you could find measurements of both on the internet, though.

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The A500 is a cheeta compared to the sloth of a tablet 'ipad(1)' This in mind, we compare the A500 vs. iPad 2 :
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As far as the iPad comparison, I believe ours is pretty close size-wise, if not just a bit smaller than the iPad. I'm sure you could find measurements of both on the internet, though.
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Acer Iconia Tab A500 vs. iPad 2
May 18th, 2011
Considering purchasing a new tablet? Tablets are becoming more and more popular these days and they’re slowly going to be a must-have gadget for all households. Here are two of the latest slates compared in terms of basic features, so you can decide which one you should buy: the popular iPad 2 or the recently released Acer Iconia Tab A500.
In the beginning, we’ll take a brief look at their design and exterior dimensions. The iPad 2 comes in two possible colors: black or white. Its exact dimensions are as follows: 9.50 x 7.31 x 0.34 (241.2 x 185.7 x 8.8 mm) and it weighs 613 grams. The Acer Iconia Tab A500 is thicker and heavier, though, its dimensions being 10.24 x 6.97 x 0.52 (260 x 177 x 13.3 mm ) and weighing in at 730 g. It turns out that the iPad 2 is a little more portable and sleek than the Acer tablet.
Moving further to the display, we find some other differences between the two slates. The Acer Iconia Tab comes with a 10.1-inch screen and a display resolution of 1280 x 800 pixels. The iPad 2, on the other hand, features a 9.7-inch display with a resolution of 1024 x 768 pixels.
It’s time to discuss the cameras. The iPad 2 doesn’t rate very well in this category, since it only packs a 0.7-megapixel rear-facing camera and a VGA front-facing camera for video calling, while the Acer slate does quite well in the camera section, thanks to its 5MP shooter in the back and its additional 2MP front camera. The Acer Iconia Tab wins the battle as far as the cameras are concerned.
What can be said about the processors? The Acer Iconia Tab packs a powerful 1GHz Tegra 250 dual cortex A9 chip and 1GB of RAM, while the iPad 2 comes equipped with a 1GHz A5 dual-core chip and 512MB of RAM. What about storage space? It’s simple, the iPad 2 comes in three variants: 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB, and the Acer Iconia Tab comes in 16GB and 32GB versions.
Let’s see what the two slates have in store for us when it comes to software. The Acer Iconia Tab comes installed with Android Honeycomb, the version developed especially for tablets. The iPad 2, on the other hand, features the Apple iOS 4.3 software, with many available apps. It all depends on which software you’re more accustomed to or inclined to use.
In the end, let’s also see what connectivity options each tablet has. Both slates feature Bluetooth 2.1 and WiFi compatibility and HDMI ports. Regarding pricing and availability details, here’s what you should know. The iPad 2 is selling for $499 (16GB), $599 (32GB), and $699 (64GB). The Acer Iconia Tab A500 starts at $450.
Wrap-up
Although the Apple iPad 2 may start as a favorite, mainly due to its wide popularity, the Acer Iconia Tab is a fierce competitor, thanks to its high-end specs and features. If you’re looking for a reasonably-priced Android tablet, the Acer Iconia is a smart choice, but of course, it’ll never be able to beat the iPad 2 in the popularity section.
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1.http://www.tabletvstablet.com/2011/05/18/acer-iconia-tab-a500-vs-ipad-2/

carpenterethan said:
The A500 is a cheeta compared to the sloth of a tablet 'ipad(1)' This in mind, we compare the A500 vs. iPad 2 :
WORKS SITED:
1.http://www.tabletvstablet.com/2011/05/18/acer-iconia-tab-a500-vs-ipad-2/
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I did google it, many times but I was looking for pictures, the physical dimensions are easy to locate, but the picture thickness comparison is something else.
Hmm forgot I had a phone, the thickness on my thunderbolt is a bit larger overall

What can be said about the processors? The Acer Iconia Tab packs a powerful 1GHz Tegra 250 dual cortex A9 chip and 1GB of RAM, while the iPad 2 comes equipped with a 1GHz A5 dual-core chip and 512MB of RAM. What about storage space? It’s simple, the iPad 2 comes in three variants: 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB, and the Acer Iconia Tab comes in 16GB and 32GB versions.
Actually, the Iconia A500 also comes in a 64 GB version, I am sending this reply from a 64 GB A500.

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What can be said about the processors? The Acer Iconia Tab packs a powerful 1GHz Tegra 250 dual cortex A9 chip and 1GB of RAM, while the iPad 2 comes equipped with a 1GHz A5 dual-core chip and 512MB of RAM. What about storage space? It’s simple, the iPad 2 comes in three variants: 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB, and the Acer Iconia Tab comes in 16GB and 32GB versions.
Actually, the Iconia A500 also comes in a 64 GB version, I am sending this reply from a 64 GB A500.
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You mean the 32gb microsd card? Still unsure if its worth getting a A510 because I mean the current 1 is rootable, plays games, movies, ebook, tough?, 300$ for a 32gb refurb, and idk what else.
I will be honest, I have no intention of paying more than 400$ for a tablet hence the refurb. Thats why I'm unsure about the other ones that offer similar things. The one exception is the Transformer Prime, but Asus messed it up and isn't recalling soo...

spaghetti_monster said:
In the reviews at least it was mentioned multiple times that the xoom screen was worse than the a500 and the sammy/asus had the best. Though I'm going to prob get a refurb tablet now w/ a large warranty so I can get a larger mem cap + add a sdhc card. If I waited I'd need to pay an extra 200$, but the A510 might be better so yeah im completely unsure. Sadly the Flyer is the only tablet I've seen that can use an actual pen like object to accurately write notes with.
Also does anyone have an ipad and a500? I've been trying to find a thickness comparison for a while but google has failed me. I don't want an ipad, I just know the overall dimensions to compare.
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The Iconia is a lot thicker, but I'm glad it is, because it feels harder and stronger in the hand.
Comparing to the iPad, the Iconia has a 10.1 inch screen, while the iPad has a 9.7 screen. The iPad is more square like, so it looks bigger, but in fact, the Iconia is a little bigger.

spaghetti_monster said:
You mean the 32gb microsd card? Still unsure if its worth getting a A510 because I mean the current 1 is rootable, plays games, movies, ebook, tough?, 300$ for a 32gb refurb, and idk what else.
I will be honest, I have no intention of paying more than 400$ for a tablet hence the refurb. Thats why I'm unsure about the other ones that offer similar things. The one exception is the Transformer Prime, but Asus messed it up and isn't recalling soo...
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Actually, I meant, that if you look around, (it is hard to find, I got mine from www.Futureshop.ca) you can get a new, not refurb, Acer Iconia A500 with 64 GB Internal storage, for $400.00 plus taxes. Add the 32 GB microsd, & you will have 96 GB of storage.
This link should get you there, although it is now 499.00, not the 399.00 I paid at Christmas 2011.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...spx?path=e96c6d3a6e56dcd548180b5df6fb8053en02

And to top it off, you should be able to run a 64Gb sd card and plug in an NTFS drive, I use a 1Tb HDD, thats some MAJOR mojo the ipad 2 can't even try to compete with....
Race is won before it even starts on that alone....

I was surprised that the a500 takes microsdxc though ive never seen higher than 64 gb. The one problem I have now is that some newer games like borderlands idk if its tegra3 required or tegra2 is acceptable. Though they haven't mentioned it, might as well wait. Acers Official ebay page seems to always have it.

Just checked price today, 64 GB A500 is now down to 449.00 @ Futurshop.ca.

Is it still worthit?

Many tablets are coming out in a couple of months equiped with tegra 3 one of which is the toshiba 7.7 with tegra 3 and super amoled screen similar to the tab. Tegra3 is always faster in running games and also has a very good battery life due to its helper core (5th core) plus most demanding and graphic intensive games are mostly designed to run on tegra. Should i wait for this or just shell out some cash and get the tab 7.7
Also i have red that one app that i always use is the splashtop which they just released a new version specifically designed for tegra3 processor so you can play graphic intensive games from pc and stream it to your tablet.
Quadcore cpu is the new technology and dual core is showing up its age , what do you guys think?

As many people say, if you always wait for the latest and greatest you will always be waiting. I got the 7.7 cause it was the newest model and I just wanted it, did i need it ? no but I just wanted it and the big seller is that I could finally use it as both a phone and tab, something that the original tmobile tab did not fully do. I am not familiar with tegra 3 but I do keep hearing about it. It is basically up to you and what your needs are.
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Any device you buy at any time is going to be out-dated within a few days/weeks. Just the way technology is. Gotta decide what your use case is and determine if a device meets your use case, and if so go for it.

Well with chainfire 3d all the new tegra 3 games works just fine.
I had TF prime for a week. It was with HC but I would say it doesnt look like fast tablet. I can't even watch YouTube 1080p in blowser. Laggyy.
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fobas001 said:
Well with chainfire 3d all the new tegra 3 games works just fine.
I had TF prime for a week. It was with HC but I would say it doesnt look like fast tablet. I can't even watch YouTube 1080p in blowser. Laggyy.
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So you mean if if i rooted my tab and install this plugin i can run all tegra/tegra3 games ? Thats awesome!

mywingtophone said:
So you mean if if i rooted my tab and install this plugin i can run all tegra/tegra3 games ? Thats awesome!
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Pretty much, yeah.

chainfire for HC?
I think chainfire is.not stable for HC yet? Any1 is using it?

The Galaxy Tab 7.7 is going to be leaps and bound better in the physical tablet war.. There's nothing coming out matching it's size/weight and feature set.
It's the thinnest and lightest 7-8" tablet in existence, has an amazing screen, a resolution only found in 10" Android tablets, list goes on.. Not the mention the 12+ hour battery life, besting the iPad2.
However, the CPU might be decently powerful at this time, but it will soon be easily overpowered by Qualcomm S4 tablets, Exynos2, OMAP5, (anything next gen, Tegra3 excluded). Tegra3 isn't that great, being based on Cortex A9 still.

allways a choice
This is the choice you allway have to make when it comes to electronic I personally buy something new and then enjoy it for a while until i just cant wait buying the next thing. Like its sayd many times before if you wait for the next "new" think, you can wait forewer
I really love my SGT-7.7 allthough i'm looking much forward to, it gets ICS

K999rrl said:
I think chainfire is.not stable for HC yet? Any1 is using it?
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Its in russian, but you can see how it runs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Ns8NQ-_Lc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I have the Verizon 4G LTE and I have to say, with regard to portability, feature set and shear amazement at the size and screen this tablet is the all in one device I have been looking for especially in the portability arena.

The 7.7 is an exceptional Tab. It is actually the BEST tab on the market with all features, best form factor, best screen and overall best performance.
Quad Core CPUs are USELESS for Android at this time. Let me repeat that, USELESS! And the Tegra 3 is particularly a joke. The OS and NO APPS can take advantage of it. Good Dual Core is the way to go.
There is plenty of power in the 7.7 as it is and you can overclock it to closer to 2GHz making it a treat! For long time, it will be enough! I still have the original Tab 7 running an overclocked 1.4GHz CPU (from its 1GHz stock speed) and still works amazingly well. The 7.7 compared to it is a rocket.
Sure the Qualcomm S4 and OMAP5 sound sweet though surely Samsung will prefer using it its own Exynos2 in the near future that is "faster" than the current processor on the 7.7 but not so much faster.. definitely will be more energy efficient I think.
So, the 7.7 has plenty or life in it for a long way to come.
If I have any gripes on the 7.7 are the pathetic choices of Samsung sticking with the near 3 year old 3MP camera modules that are on every Tab no matter the new models (its absurd they never got upgraded) and the fact speakers need a bit punchier sound to them..
Other than that the 7.7 is a great Tab, as thin as it can be, feature full and with a screen to die for.
Buy it and love it.

I took the plundge and bought the international tab considering that im on ATT network. I bought all the accesories i can think of from the
international tab 7.7
dock with keyboard
hdmi connector
extra usb cable and charger
original samsung book case keyboard
leather case
samsung pen
32gb micro sdcard
now i'm ready for battle!
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K999rrl said:
I think chainfire is.not stable for HC yet? Any1 is using it?
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I'm using it. Not all THD games work though. Galaxy on Fire 2 works perfectly though!

mywingtophone said:
I took the plundge and bought the international tab considering that im on ATT network. I bought all the accesories i can think of from the
international tab 7.7
dock with keyboard
hdmi connector
extra usb cable and charger
original samsung book case keyboard
leather case
samsung pen
32gb micro sdcard
now i'm ready for battle!
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Congrats!! Well done and enjoy

Spec wars are useless in this era of android...functionality is key. My samsung vibrant can do anything this tablet can...just a bit slower...a new tablet won't be able to do anything that this can't ...but other tablets like the padfone or transformer prime can turn into laptops if that's what you want...
For me...the screen is amazing and its portable to the point that I don't feel like an idiot leaving the house with it...so this is perfect for me

mywingtophone said:
I took the plundge and bought the international tab considering that im on ATT network. I bought all the accesories i can think of from the
international tab 7.7
dock with keyboard
hdmi connector
extra usb cable and charger
original samsung book case keyboard
leather case
samsung pen
32gb micro sdcard
now i'm ready for battle!
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Wow you bought the whole shebang, nice!
I think this is the best tablet out yet, (until tomorrow that is ). The hype now of comparing CPU cores is exactly the same as the frequency wars on desktop CPU's a few years ago, and also very much like the sensor pixel count on digital cameras. Up to a point it becomes meaningless and pointless. Its all marketing to hype up a product.
For mobile devices the performance of a device is not solely governed by the CPU. Its the sum of its parts. Its why an iPhone4 (single core) is as responsive and as fast in practical use as a GalaxyS2 (dual core). The Tegra2 was a joke, and it looks like the Tegra3 isn't the messiah its been hyped to be either.
Welcome to the 7.7 club and I'm sure you will thoroughly enjoy using the device.

mywingtophone said:
Many tablets are coming out in a couple of months equiped with tegra 3 one of which is the toshiba 7.7 with tegra 3 and super amoled screen similar to the tab. Tegra3 is always faster in running games and also has a very good battery life due to its helper core (5th core) plus most demanding and graphic intensive games are mostly designed to run on tegra. Should i wait for this or just shell out some cash and get the tab 7.7
Also i have red that one app that i always use is the splashtop which they just released a new version specifically designed for tegra3 processor so you can play graphic intensive games from pc and stream it to your tablet.
Quadcore cpu is the new technology and dual core is showing up its age , what do you guys think?
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A search is always worth it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1503574

I would say it is defiantly still worth it. The portability of the device as many others have said is great. I don't really think there will be many apps that will really need or take advantage of a quad core CPU.

worth it? YES!
if you always wait about new technology, i think you'll buy your first tablet on next 10 - 15years from now.
if Toshiba will release their new product 7.7 which is totally copy from Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7, you'll get only shame.
why? for me, follower never better than leader.
who's the Best Leader of 7" in the world? Samsung.
that's why *pple want to make ip*d mini, another brand wants to follow Samsung.
sorry oot
may i know how to setting CF3D at 7.7? i'm afraid about CMW and others. thanks

Is the battery life a reason to wait till 510?

There's a epic deal on 1saleaday and I've been eying the A500 or a while, but I'm still not sure if I should get it because of the battery life (6hours?) and older gpu.
It was that or the getting a A700 or A510 or Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (For the pen input). All about 10-12 hours batt life.
All of them have microsdhc *prob xc too* , but the battery life and form of decent note taking is important to me. Thats why I'm leaning towards the Galaxy, but those will cost twice as much as the a500.
Price wise I can get it, but I'm just not sure if its worth getting the new stuff.
If it doesn't sell out I got about 7 hours to decide.

I won't pretend to know what you want or need in a tablet. I can only say this. If my Iconia A500 broke right now, I would definitely buy one just like it today without pause.
My battery life is fine and with one of the ICS leaks it is lightning fast. I wouldn't even consider a different option right now. I think that a highly functional dock is the only thing that any other Android tablet has over on it right now. Other than that this is a premier device.

Can those fat stylus's be used to take accurate notes?
The ones that work on all tablets, its why I asked because the note 10.1 is supposed to act like a walcom pen

I just tried it with Handwrite Pro. I don't usually use the stylus so maybe I just lack the proper feel for it. But my experience was less than stellar. It was too slow to use for faster note taking. I could get words in accurately, but not whole sentences. If you want I can try a different app.

spaghetti_monster said:
There's a epic deal on 1saleaday and I've been eying the A500 or a while, but I'm still not sure if I should get it because of the battery life (6hours?) and older gpu.
It was that or the getting a A700 or A510 or Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (For the pen input). All about 10-12 hours batt life.
All of them have microsdhc *prob xc too* , but the battery life and form of decent note taking is important to me. Thats why I'm leaning towards the Galaxy, but those will cost twice as much as the a500.
Price wise I can get it, but I'm just not sure if its worth getting the new stuff.
If it doesn't sell out I got about 7 hours to decide.
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at the moment i would wait. there are TONS of tegra 3 tablets coming out. from a new low end transformer with tegra 3, to the A510, to a 10" kindle fire a google nexus tablet and more! this is the year of android tablets

^ If you're gonna wait for Tegra 3, might as well wait for Tegra 4; after all, that's not far away. And if you're gonna wait for Tegra 4, you might as well hold on for Tegra 5, or 6, or 7. After all, they won't be long after their predecessors.
The point being, if you're gonna wait for new tech, you'll always be waiting. Buy the device that suits your needs NOW, or procrastinate forever.

If the deciding factor is battery life, all I can say is my average is about 8 hours. If using Netflix I can watch four 45 min episodes before I get any low battery notices.
I am extremely happy with my a500, does everything I need.
Just my 2cents, hope this helps
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FloatingFatMan said:
^ If you're gonna wait for Tegra 3, might as well wait for Tegra 4; after all, that's not far away. And if you're gonna wait for Tegra 4, you might as well hold on for Tegra 5, or 6, or 7. After all, they won't be long after their predecessors.
The point being, if you're gonna wait for new tech, you'll always be waiting. Buy the device that suits your needs NOW, or procrastinate forever.
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Tegra 3 = now and in near future (depending on brand loyalty)....It actually makes sense to wait for Tegra 3.
Useless post is useless.

Yeah I would go tegra 3 nothing wrong with our tab but since you haven't committed yet go with the newest tech
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FloatingFatMan said:
^ If you're gonna wait for Tegra 3, might as well wait for Tegra 4; after all, that's not far away. And if you're gonna wait for Tegra 4, you might as well hold on for Tegra 5, or 6, or 7. After all, they won't be long after their predecessors.
The point being, if you're gonna wait for new tech, you'll always be waiting. Buy the device that suits your needs NOW, or procrastinate forever.
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i'm looking at the price points. the price will go down on the tegra 3. So if its not an immediate need then waiting is always the option. I agree that tegra 4 will come out eventually but you have to give yourself a time frame in which to buy things. I want a tegra 3 @ $350 - $399 sometime this year. current market conditions does not allow tablets to be at this price range yet. But If i wait 6 - 8 more months i can easily get the price to be in my comfort zone. New tegra 4 will be expensive when it comes out but i don't need the cutting edge processors/tablets. just something that is smooth and works and not apple.

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i'm looking at the price points. the price will go down on the tegra 3. So if its not an immediate need then waiting is always the option. I agree that tegra 4 will come out eventually but you have to give yourself a time frame in which to buy things. I want a tegra 3 @ $350 - $399 sometime this year. current market conditions does not allow tablets to be at this price range yet. But If i wait 6 - 8 more months i can easily get the price to be in my comfort zone. New tegra 4 will be expensive when it comes out but i don't need the cutting edge processors/tablets. just something that is smooth and works and not apple.
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The T-Prime is only $100.00 over what you stated as your limit. IMHO it's worth every dime at $499.00 right now, although I'm certain that price will drop once again within the next three months.
I wouldn't go back to an A500 after being on a Teg3 tablet. While you can't miss what you never had, once you do, it's tough, if not impossible even considering taking a step backwards, and I very much enjoy my Prime! I sold my A500 for $300.00 on CL, put $208.00 more into it for a Prime...once again IMHO.....worth every dime!

wolverine423 said:
Tegra 3 = now and in near future (depending on brand loyalty)....It actually makes sense to wait for Tegra 3.
Useless post is useless.
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Congratulations. You completely missed the point.
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i'm looking at the price points. the price will go down on the tegra 3. So if its not an immediate need then waiting is always the option. I agree that tegra 4 will come out eventually but you have to give yourself a time frame in which to buy things. I want a tegra 3 @ $350 - $399 sometime this year. current market conditions does not allow tablets to be at this price range yet. But If i wait 6 - 8 more months i can easily get the price to be in my comfort zone. New tegra 4 will be expensive when it comes out but i don't need the cutting edge processors/tablets. just something that is smooth and works and not apple.
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I do believe acers tegra 3 seven device will debut at 250 dollars, well if price is the is main thing this tablet will be getting cheaper and is definitely getting ICS so it will be a nice smooth experience
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I would stay away from a500 if your a regular on XDA. Mostly because outside of the devs we have now there are few users here that feel the need to troll other users in our small community
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Galaxy Tab 7.7 P6800 -- Best Designed Tablet Ever

I'm using it in 2013 and it still puts all other tablets to shame (looks wise). C'mon Samsung, release a sequel to this BEAST of tablet, perhaps with a Quad Core and a 1080p super amoled plus display -- same body. Please. I will pay $1000 if you want but please release part dos!!

I want the 7.7 since released, but never get one here in in europe.AfterI had a nexus7 , gtab 8.9, sonyZ, asus padfone
QUOTE=JoJo2211;45183256]I'm using it in 2013 and it still puts all other tablets to shame (looks wise). C'mon Samsung, release a sequel to this BEAST of tablet, perhaps with a Quad Core and a 1080p super amoled plus display -- same body. Please. I will pay $1000 if you want but please release part dos!![/QUOTE]
I want the 7.7 since release date, but never find one here in europe.After many tabs like a nexus 7, Gtab 8.9, Asus Fonepad, SonyZ, Acer and many more, i found a shop 1 month ago that get a contingent of new 7.7. In times of quadcore i buyed it for 250.- brand new and like it very much.
The best tablet i ever had.
For a 2 year old tablet its very good. better specs like the tab3 and other brand new devices. Asus present the Fonepad but the 7.7 could do this years before.
Iam so interested why no producer makes a tablet with specs like the 7.7. Thin, sdcard, umts, phonecall with 3g, 1280er display bigger then 7 inch and a very good accutime. Only the p6800 had all this like 2 years ago.

most premium looking tablet. i hope the next one is borderless since we dont usually hold this by the bezel, leave that for ipads and 10 inchers.

ThE_SoUrCe said:
most premium looking tablet. i hope the next one is borderless since we dont usually hold this by the bezel, leave that for ipads and 10 inchers.
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This is the best designed tablet. However, it's limitations rests on Android. For tablets, we need a full fledged operating system like Windows 8. Not only is Windows 8 a complete OS, it runs 100x smoother than Android.
We can have a 8 cores 9000 Ghz CPU with 5,000 GB rams. It will still lag on Android. Sorry, but my next tablet will be windows 8. For mobile phones, Android is ok.
Just waiting for a 7-8 tablets to be released with windows 8. It's too bad that I will no longer have the call and text feature of the Galaxy Tab 7.7.

vbx said:
This is the best designed tablet. However, it's limitations rests on Android. For tablets, we need a full fledged operating system like Windows 8. Not only is Windows 8 a complete OS, it runs 100x smoother than Android.
We can have a 8 cores 9000 Ghz CPU with 5,000 GB rams. It will still lag on Android. Sorry, but my next tablet will be windows 8. For mobile phones, Android is ok.
Just waiting for a 7-8 tablets to be released with windows 8. It's too bad that I will no longer have the call and text feature of the Galaxy Tab 7.7.
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Trolls never die
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vbx said:
This is the best designed tablet. However, it's limitations rests on Android. For tablets, we need a full fledged operating system like Windows 8. Not only is Windows 8 a complete OS, it runs 100x smoother than Android.
We can have a 8 cores 9000 Ghz CPU with 5,000 GB rams. It will still lag on Android. Sorry, but my next tablet will be windows 8. For mobile phones, Android is ok.
Just waiting for a 7-8 tablets to be released with windows 8. It's too bad that I will no longer have the call and text feature of the Galaxy Tab 7.7.
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Enjoy your "complete" OS. Cm9 ROCKS this tablet with tremendous battery life. Btw you might want to invest 1.2k or more if you want windows 8 full with no lag, and not just the RT version since it's not a "complete" os. Oh and don't forget a shoulder bag to haul the thing in. I've messed with a few of them but the battery wasn't that impressive and they were way heavy (the guy was hauling it in a backpack). A laptop would have been a better choice than a full x86 slate IMHO, but by that time the argument is "laptop vs desktop". Rabbit trails.
Good luck!
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so no good replacement for P6800 soon ?
It's hard to find new slim, below 8", good screen and have 32GB internal tablet

The LG G Pad 8.3 looks like the next best tablet that might tempt me to upgrade my P6800
Specs look good as long as it has LTE
http://pocketnow.com/2013/09/18/lg-g-pad-8-3-price-rumored

Arobase40 said:
Very bad trolling try, you know ?
We've been stuck and skrew up during about 30 years with Windows/Microsoft/WinTel monopolistic position on the PCs, and you want more with mobile devices ???
If you want a Win8 device go to the next coming locked Toshiba Encore 8" device with Intel Atom Proc and you'll be fine, but just forget about XDA forums btw...
Toshiba is always selling locked devices (with locked bootloaders) most often impossible to root and/or to customized...
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LOL, I don't care about custom rom, root or customized bs. I just want a tablet the runs smooth. Only reason why still I have the 7.7 is because it's the only tablets that lets me send texts and make calls.

This is going to be a great replacement for this tablet
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http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_ifa_2013-review-980.php

bassem.mohsen said:
This is going to be a great replacement for this tablet
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_ifa_2013-review-980.php
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No phone capability so I guess it is more of a replacement for the P6810.
Large screen phones are a rarity. This company's Aries range looks promising though I doubt they will match the build quality of the 7.7
http://www.goclever.com/uk/products,c1/tablet,c5/

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This is going to be a great replacement for this tablet
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No... No oled ---> ignore!

Friend of mine decided to flash off his new 8" Note 3 last week, insisted on showing everyone how good the screen quality was.
He decided to show an episode of Horizon (BBC Science TV show for overseas readers) about black holes in 720p, funnily enough I had that episode on my 6800 so we played them side by side.....everyone in the office said ".....Oooo the picture on that older one is so much better...much sharper and more vivid....." he wasn't a happy bunny!
Don't know if anyone noticed but a 6800 sold on ripbay UK last night for £180, in good nick with the box and accessories.
I've got 3 6800's and a 6810 now sitting in various docking stations doing assorted things, just wish there was an official 4.2.2 release.
Ho Hum

My 7.7 is my baby. It's my main device for everything, entertainment, odd games and portfolio device. The device I read the daily news and catch up on tech news, reviews and read xda every night in bed. My wife knows not to disturb me when I and with my baby lol.
I have a note 10.1 also which I doodle with. I have the same apps on both but I just don't find the note tab satisfying to use like the 7.7. It's not just the looks, it's the whole ergonomics also. 7.7 is the perfect size for me. Big enough to read websites on and small enough to carry around. I love how thin it is and how premium it feels.
I'm amazed that even though the device got the all clear by the courts (Apple being jealous and trying to hinder the sales) Samsung should have expanded on this design. The 10.1 is ugly at best. The 7.7 looks beautiful.. like a Porsche.
It's a shame, I am tempted by the New 2014 note 10.1, that does look nice but it still is a little off. Also I'd prefer a smaller size. And then there's no amoled. This is a big booboo.
Sadly the 7.7 is feeling the strain. It is getting old and a bit slow. I always need more ram and on the p6810 I can't use multi window. I really love this feature on my note 10.1 and would love it for the 7.7. Thing is can I justify spending a couple of hundred quid for a p6800 - an old device that I know is slow for some tasks already just to get multiwindow?
Hmmmm decisions decisions....
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Man, I love the 7.7 but since swapping (and cutting) my SIM into the new Nexus 7 FHD LTE, I haven't looked back. I rarely used the dialer on the 7.7 since I also carry a phone, and I can always make voice calls using GrooveIP if I need to.
The thinner bezel on the Nexus 7 means I can put it in most of my pockets now. The 7.7 is really chunky compared to it, and for not much more screen space. True, it isn't SAMOLED so colors aren't as punchy, but much sharper resolution. Plus, no lag! The 7.7 was always laggy, sadly

JoJo2211 said:
I'm using it in 2013 and it still puts all other tablets to shame (looks wise). C'mon Samsung, release a sequel to this BEAST of tablet, perhaps with a Quad Core and a 1080p super amoled plus display -- same body. Please. I will pay $1000 if you want but please release part dos!!
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Totally agree. Just the right size, great screen, great feel... To see a 7.7 v2 for /2013/2014 would be fantastic. Screw Apple for litigating this tablet out of popularity and therefore dev support :/

Was looking at buying a new tablet a few weeks ago.
What I wanted:
1. HD AMOLED screen
2. Can make calls
3. 7-9"
4. Can install AOSP-style ROM
Nothing that you could buy new fit all these criteria except for the 7.7 which was released 2 years ago!
So I bought a 2nd hand 7.7 for $250 and haven't looked back
Only thing that I think could be improved is a faster processor and more stable custom roms and it would be perfect!

Finally sold my 7.7 tablet + my android phone to give way for a Note 3. I have to let go of bringing and maintaining two android devices (Phone + tablet) at the same time. I really love this tablet but sad to say, some good things really never last.

grabshell said:
Finally sold my 7.7 tablet + my android phone to give way for a Note 3. I have to let go of bringing and maintaining two android devices (Phone + tablet) at the same time. I really love this tablet but sad to say, some good things really never last.
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I really want a Note 3 but I can't give up my tablet. Hopefully, I get enough of Christmas and birthday money to cover it.

grabshell said:
Finally sold my 7.7 tablet + my android phone to give way for a Note 3. I have to let go of bringing and maintaining two android devices (Phone + tablet) at the same time. I really love this tablet but sad to say, some good things really never last.
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That is also my ultimate aim (single multi-purpose device). sm-n900 in 3 weeks ! The newer devices don't really need that much tweaking, but won't stop me trying anyway.
Still have some fun & unfinished work with this tab though, before passing it on..... keep it in the family
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How Could My 8.3 Die So Soon ?

Well...
The G-Pad 8.3 in it's current form only lasted 8 months.
It appears the announcement the week of the May 13th will unveil a newly designed LG 8" class device..
I don't understand the screen shrinking down from 8.3 inches to 8.0 inches.. it seems to me, the ".3" inches is the perfect offset for the on screen navbar...
I guess LG sees it differently.
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Depending on the Engine.. I may make the trek up to the 10.1 inch model.. but Resolution and Price will have a huge determining factor in my decision..
I know most of you are happy with the V500 as it is.. and have no plans to leave it.. But, if the Resolution ( and Gamma ) are stepped up on the newer version of the 8 Inch Class model will you be upgrading to the 2014 edition?

Did it die?
Mine is still OK luckily..

Do we know the exact dimensions of the new 8" model?

We have some pictures and screen sizes. No news yet on the hardware underneath, or resolutions.
The 8.3 might not have the fastest processor, or the highest res screen, but I have to ask if there's anything you find lacking with this tablet in your actual every-day usage.

just give it to me. hehe

Planterz said:
We have some pictures and screen sizes. No news yet on the hardware underneath, or resolutions.
The 8.3 might not have the fastest processor, or the highest res screen, but I have to ask if there's anything you find lacking with this tablet in your actual every-day usage.
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battery life?

Just because a newer version of something has been announced, it doesn't make the one you own any worse. What's wrong with your 8.3?

ASW1 said:
Did it die?
Mine is still OK luckily..
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detonation said:
Just because a newer version of something has been announced, it doesn't make the one you own any worse. What's wrong with your 8.3?
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ASW.. It did not die (literally)....
I just meant, it appears LG is discontinuing our V500 8.3" model in favor of an 8.0" model.
Detonation.. There is nothing wrong with my V500..
In fact, it still has the Original Screen Protector on it.. so whoever gets it, will be the first to ever touch the screen if they choose to pull it off..
Again.. Depending on the Engine and Screen Res on the 10.1 V700, I might be moving up to that model.. Price will also be a determining factor as well..
But I would miss my 8.3... It's the Perfect Size when you're resting on the Toilet...

woody1 said:
Do we know the exact dimensions of the new 8" model?
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Planterz said:
We have some pictures and screen sizes. No news yet on the hardware underneath, or resolutions.
The 8.3 might not have the fastest processor, or the highest res screen, but I have to ask if there's anything you find lacking with this tablet in your actual every-day usage.
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Woody...
To be honest.. If these pics are correct, The bezels actually look "Larger" to me on the 8" device than our current 8.3's.
Planterz..
IMO.. There is nothing "Lacking" per say.. But there are those times I would prefer to have a 10.1 inch screen.. especially if the V700/V500? has the 2560x1440/1600 Res of the G3.. for me, it may be worth the upgrade..

So, is the 8" model necessarily exactly 8 inches, or is that just what they're calling it? It could possibly be 8.3" or whatever. If we don't know for sure, why worry about it? Plus, I figure there will be many other 8 inches before my G Pad is over the hill.

For me Woody,
I was just shocked that our V500 8.3 only lasted 8 months...
And for me to be honest.. I really don't think I would go from the V500 to whatever this New LG 8 inch tablet is.. be it 8" or 8.3" inches.. Unless the Screen Res AND the Engine make a MAJOR jump upwards.. To at least equal the class best Samsung Tab Pro 8.4.
Even then, it would be tough not to just pay the difference and go with the 10.1 for a change of pace.. But, if these are some kind of "Budget" entry level tablets to simply compete on price with the 8" Acer and HP products of course for now I'm hanging with the V500.. at least until I see what's coming at I/O next month.. But a High-Res 10.1 with the 801 / 805 & Adreno 330 at under $400.00 would most likely get me out of the 8.3.. We shall see..

woody1 said:
So, is the 8" model necessarily exactly 8 inches, or is that just what they're calling it? It could possibly be 8.3" or whatever. If we don't know for sure, why worry about it? Plus, I figure there will be many other 8 inches before my G Pad is over the hill.
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I know the rumours suggest that the n8 will be by HTC, but I won't discount that the new lg8 will be the base for the n8. I wouldn't be surprised if lg reduced the screen to 8" for the Google contract.
But I'm only guessing.
I personally think it would be a shame if lg reduced the screen. I've used an 8" tablet and whilst the 0.4" difference isn't as obvious on a tablet as it is on a phone it is still noticeable.
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Rumor Has It That...
whoamigriffiths said:
I know the rumours suggest that the n8 will be by HTC, but I won't discount that the new lg8 will be the base for the n8. I wouldn't be surprised if lg reduced the screen to 8" for the Google contract.
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Don't know about that Who...
All rumors point to the "Next-Nexus" as being an 8.9 inch device manufactured by HTC..
And you know what? That may very well end up being One Hell of a Device.
If HTC keeps the same theme going.. And blesses Mankind with Front Facing Speakers (M7, M8).. That 8.9 Display Plus Speakers would just about be the size of the majority of today's 10.1 devices...
That... would turn me into a definite defector for camp HTC..

can any one provide that wallpaper on the 8" model looks nice :silly:

Well, the specs for the 7" one are out. S400 4x1.2Ghz, 1GB RAM, 1280x800 screen. Not all that impressive. Obviously, this line is going to be more entry-level. Ironically, the new 7" and 8" will probably cost more than the recent sale prices of the 8.3.

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can any one provide that wallpaper on the 8" model looks nice :silly:
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Well, I made one myself, if you like.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B28JjbSZz6zWTnFHU1pmODBLNDA/edit?usp=sharing

Planterz said:
Well, the specs for the 7" one are out. S400 4x1.2Ghz, 1GB RAM, 1280x800 screen. Not all that impressive. Obviously, this line is going to be more entry-level. Ironically, the new 7" and 8" will probably cost more than the recent sale prices of the 8.3.
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I don't think so on the 7" Planterz..
With specs like that a 7" device would fall in the $179.00 - $199.00 category ..
I'm curious ( but certainly not purchasing ) about the 8" model. Again, it may be a budget end 8 incher to compete with the low end Acer & Dell devices.. it just makes no sense to shrink the G-Pad 8.3 down to 8" inches so it must be a different class of tablet ( A La Samsung ).
I believe this will be the basic chassis design for HTC built Nexus 8.9.. front facing speakers and all..

The HTC Nexus 8.9 Is Imminent...
RaiderWill said:
I believe this HTC built Nexus 8.9..
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For those of you that have interest like I do ( I have a lot.. ) in the upcoming Nexus 8.9 we only have a few weeks to go.. It certainly appears to be imminent..
Even though I believe it's too early for the debut of the Tegra in it's 64-Bit ( Code Name Denver ) form.. it appears Nvidia has 2 versions of their SoC. The 1st being a 32-Bit SoC that is Krait based with Quad-A15's.. and the 2nd being the "In House" 64-Bit Denver platform. Both SoC's though will be sporting the K1 ( Code Name Kepler ) GPu sporting 192 cores.. that's a huge jump in cores from their previous GPu . Since all signs point to their 64 bit Denver CPu launching in the 2nd half of 2014.. this would mean the Nexus 8.9 would sport the Quad-Core Krait A-15's and monster Kepler GPu. Gamers.. Get Ready!
Hurry up Google I/O.. I can hardly wait..

Where Are They?
We are heading towards the 2nd month since the V400, V500 and V700 went through the FCC.. What's the problem now LG..?

RaiderWill said:
Where Are They?
We are heading towards the 2nd month since the V400, V500 and V700 went through the FCC.. What's the problem now LG..?
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Not dead at all! the specs for the new gpad's are just downright awful.