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Warning about running 780mhz

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hi im only writing this to inform people to be carefull when your flashing roms and overclocking because the devs are not joking when they say that theyre not responsible for bricked phones. i am not blaming anyone. so ive had my g1 for quite a while now and have always used cyanogens mod. when kingkick released aosp 2.1 i flashed it. and have been using it since.
my g1 had the death spl and i had just 1 partion on my sd card. my fat32.
i flashed kingkicks 1.5 2 days ago and was running it at 780mhz. i noticed the battery would deplete faster than running at 528mhz. today i was running it at 770mhz and i had the brightness up 100%, i had wireless tether running, usb tether running, gps, and i was using google maps to buzz about my location. i set my phone down for maybe 1 minute and when i looked back at my laptop it had no connection. i checked my phone and it was super hot. the led light was red. i removed the battery and now it wont boot. it just rapidly turns out the red led light and it turns back off. good thing is i have insurance but just a warning to those that are doing stuff to their phone and have no insurance.

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JAguirre1231 said:
WARNING: When posting in the wrong section you WILL be flamed, even if I have to do it personally
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i figured no one reads the other sections as much and i want people to know this so i posted it here. if they decided to move it, ok.

djbootleg said:
i figured no one reads the other sections as much and i want people to know this so i posted it here. if they decided to move it, ok.
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I read the other sections.

Hey, thanks for the info!

Another reason could be all the crap you have running, wifi/usb tething by themselves not with each other heat the phone up enough, running both and other apps, thats a deadly mix right there the chips can only handle so much heat, and with all of those

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I read the other sections.
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so do i. apparently we're no one......

djbootleg said:
i removed the battery and now it wont boot. it just rapidly turns out the red led light and it turns back off. good thing is i have insurance but just a warning to those that are doing stuff to their phone and have no insurance.
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There are thermal fuses in the system that will blow when parts of the phone get too hot. There's one on the mainboard that I know of, and one or an equivalent protection system in the battery.
Personally I don't see what's wrong with warning developers (as distinct from integrators) that clocking the main CPU at 2x stock rate may exceed the power and/or thermal budget of the handset and that such mods may not be particularly wise for "daily-use" ROMs, i.e., those that aren't being cooked just to whore for attention.

grandomegabosses said:
so do i. apparently we're no one......
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Haven't seen ya in a while, how's it going? Not like it matters if have casual conversation, this thread is going to be removed most likely

marxmarv said:
Personally I don't see what's wrong with warning developers (as distinct from integrators) that clocking the main CPU at 2x stock rate may exceed the power and/or thermal budget of the handset and that such mods may not be particularly wise for "daily-use" ROMs, i.e., those that aren't being cooked just to whore for attention.
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So, you're trying to say it was better to post a new thread than post this in one of the 3 or 4 overclocking threads?

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Haven't seen ya in a while, how's it going? Not like it matters if have casual conversation, this thread is going to be removed most likely
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it's going pretty well. how bout you? i go through periods of massive posting then trolling.. haha

grandomegabosses said:
it's going pretty well. how bout you? i go through periods of massive posting then trolling.. haha
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I'm sure to most people I go through periods of massive trolling then posting, but I like to balance them out.

Dang. I'm glad I over clock at 628 mahz 528 min. After reading a lot about how 780 mhz barely makes a difference from 628 mhz I don't know why people even over clock that much. 628 mhz is plenty for me.

So you had wireless and isb tethering going =HEAT... then were playing with maps and buzz while tethering 2 different ways... And you think its because of the overclocking?????
Good luck on that

errm, red led you say
OMG mine has a RED LED
hold on... that means its charging
phew....
seriously, I very much doubt this has anything to do with King's ROM @ 770Mhz the OC is a myth.
I have noticed my G1 get hot, even with the Rooted RC33 when running 3G/GPS

LOL @grandomegabosses
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omg man you guys are hilarious.

you people are ridiculous...this is good info, and a good warning, and instead of burying it in a thread he decided to make a new topic...as a warning...to the end user...
some of you people need to get off your high horse...it's not like you see as many "I just bought a G1 and it doesn't have multitouch, what do I do???" threads anymore...
sometimes I think you look for things to b*tch about.
(I haven't had any issues and I've been running at 780mhz max and min)
but he's pretty much saying...watch out...he doesn't know the deal...he's simply warning us.

AbsoluteDesignz said:
you people are ridiculous...this is good info, and a good warning, and instead of burying it in a thread he decided to make a new topic...as a warning...to the end user...
some of you people need to get off your high horse...it's not like you see as many "I just bought a G1 and it doesn't have multitouch, what do I do???" threads anymore...
sometimes I think you look for things to b*tch about.
(I haven't had any issues and I've been running at 780mhz max and min)
but he's pretty much saying...watch out...he doesn't know the deal...he's simply warning us.
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first off, how am i on a high horse?
second, how is posting THIS thread in development not worthy of flaming?
third, he was running his device in a way that would overheat it without the unnecessary overclocking.
fourth, get off your "antihighhorse" high horse.

JAguirre1231 said:
So, you're trying to say it was better to post a new thread than post this in one of the 3 or 4 overclocking threads?
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Not necessarily saying that. But which of the three threads would you have dj post it in? Or would you have them post it in all three? Personally I think it'd be nice if, since we have the thread now, the "me toos" got posted here, hoping all the same that there aren't any.

AbsoluteDesignz said:
you people are ridiculous...this is good info, and a good warning, and instead of burying it in a thread he decided to make a new topic...as a warning...to the end user...
some of you people need to get off your high horse...it's not like you see as many "I just bought a G1 and it doesn't have multitouch, what do I do???" threads anymore...
sometimes I think you look for things to b*tch about.
(I haven't had any issues and I've been running at 780mhz max and min)
but he's pretty much saying...watch out...he doesn't know the deal...he's simply warning us.
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its only serving to perpetuate the OC myth
max is 528Mhz !!!
, the 'speed' increase people are reporting is more likely to do with 'Up threshold' tweaks i.e. it scales up sooner.
but yes, his heart is in the right place, the Post is not.

(DEVS NEEDED) 30 FPS Issue

OK so we all have heard about the 30 FPS issue that the Evo has...... now lets do something about it since HTC says it was "designed" like that.
Are any of the devs working on this and if your are please share your findings with the rest of the community so we can all chip in and try helping.

Not really a dev, but if you flash the Froyo-Dev ROM, you'll see that the boot animation speeds along at 30+FPS for a while then drops down to 30 after something gets loaded. I don't know if this is unrelated or not, but if it is related, it seems that the cap is software-enforced by a kernel driver or something.
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OK so we all have heard about the 30 FPS issue that the Evo has...... now lets do something about it since HTC says it was "designed" like that.
Are any of the devs working on this and if your are please share your findings with the rest of the community so we can all chip in and try helping.
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not a dev (but would like to learn).. but i am REALLY glad someone brought this up cause 30fps is NOT GONNA CUT IT.
I Really hope one of these amazing devs can make this happen cause i would hate to have a crippled phone!! lol

I second this motion, this should be high priority. I can't believe the EVO with the hardware that it has "was designed" to under perform. Don't get me wrong the phone is amazing but the future of Android gaming is on the rise. I just purchased NOVA from gameloft. That game is like the mobile version of Halo but it is alittle laggy which makes me sad :'( please help.....
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Its a good thing have alot of great devs such as toast have the evo.... I believe that the problem is either associated with OpenGL or a kernal driver but im going to let someone with more knowledge answer that.

Alright correct me if I'm wrong but if a game is running at 30fps then thats pretty smooth, right? I'm not saying this is isn't a bad thing, but you guys need to point your blame elsewhere. The EVO is great but it doesn't have an even halfway decent GPU AFAIK, so that might be too blame if you are having big 3d graphics problems.
What I'm trying to say here is if you were ACTUALLY getting 30fps constantly (because its locked, as in it would normally be higher) then would you notice this?
Didn't think so.

phinnaeus said:
Alright correct me if I'm wrong but if a game is running at 30fps then thats pretty smooth, right? I'm not saying this is isn't a bad thing, but you guys need to point your blame elsewhere. The EVO is great but it doesn't have an even halfway decent GPU AFAIK, so that might be too blame if you are having big 3d graphics problems.
What I'm trying to say here is if you were ACTUALLY getting 30fps constantly (because its locked, as in it would normally be higher) then would you notice this?
Didn't think so.
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Dude... the phone is choppy.
30fps is really laggy! Think about the emulators, those rely solely on cpu speed.

phinnaeus said:
Alright correct me if I'm wrong but if a game is running at 30fps then thats pretty smooth, right? I'm not saying this is isn't a bad thing, but you guys need to point your blame elsewhere. The EVO is great but it doesn't have an even halfway decent GPU AFAIK, so that might be too blame if you are having big 3d graphics problems.
What I'm trying to say here is if you were ACTUALLY getting 30fps constantly (because its locked, as in it would normally be higher) then would you notice this?
Didn't think so.
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True but try playing a game like asphalt 5 then try it on the Nexus or Incredible and you will see a HUGE change

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True but try playing a game like asphalt 5 then try it on the Nexus or Incredible and you will see a HUGE change
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YUP... and doesnt the Incredible and Nexus have the same GPU??
30fps is laggy... you can even notice this in swiping screens and menus.. its just a little choppy... dont get me wrong.. i wouldnt trade this phone for anything.. but the hardware is definitely not seeing its potential here.

Yes let's all correct this guy, there is a huge difference from 30fps to 60fps when running 3d graphic intensive media like some of the other phones out there.
Alright correct me if I'm wrong but if a game is running at 30fps then thats pretty smooth, right? I'm not saying this is isn't a bad thing, but you guys need to point your blame elsewhere. The EVO is great but it doesn't have an even halfway decent GPU AFAIK, so that might be too blame if you are having big 3d graphics problems.
What I'm trying to say here is if you were ACTUALLY getting 30fps constantly (because its locked, as in it would normally be higher) then would you notice this?
Didn't think so.
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just a thought here and this is way out there.. BUT...
What if we could gather "pledges" or donations as a community and the first dev to get rid of this limitation wins?? Like a dev contest of sorts...
Could be a dumb idea i dunno.

jigglywiggly said:
Dude... the phone is choppy.
30fps is really laggy! Think about the emulators, those rely solely on cpu speed.
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True but try playing a game like asphalt 5 then try it on the Nexus or Incredible and you will see a HUGE change
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Once again I'm not trying to argue here, I haven't really gamed on my EVO so I will defer to you, if this is causing problems, then it should be addressed. But I have to note one thing: 30 fps is not laggy. Have you ever gone to a movie theater? Those are 24. Traditional camcorders are like 30, but sometimes 60. Yes the human eye can discern more (there is no definite limit... just like there is no single limit to the ppi the eye can see, so shut up SJ, its different for everyone) but at a certain point its like megapixels, you get more garbage than real information.
A real EVO example I can call forth is the Quadrant 3D graphics demos. The first two run like crap... maxing about at probably 20fps, but the planetoid one runs at 30 (capped there, obviously) and is as smooth as butter.
So I think if you had a framerate counter on those games you would be way under 30 when you notice the lag. I think there must be something else at work here.
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Yes let's all correct this guy, there is a huge difference from 30fps to 60fps when running 3d graphic intensive media like some of the other phones out there.
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I don't really mind if you try to incite mob rule on my posts, but please at least have the courtesy to refer to me as something other than "this guy." Preferably phinnaeus...

ok so we know it makes a differnce... now lets start finding away to fix the problem at hand.... has anyone looked into OpenGL... i remember it has problems in the hero and it messed up the FPS but it was addressed by developers... maybe the problem lays in there.
A pledge for donations sounds good too.... im putting in 5 bucks.. lets keep this going

I can tell you this, when a buddy of mine with a Nexus one and I both loaded up the same games to see the difference next to one another it made me wanna throw my EVO at the ground as hard as I could.
It's choppy, its laggy, its all around BAD. The nexus one has the same processor and gpu and its smooth as a baby's ass. If you can't see it you are in denial.

I think there was a similar issue with the Droid when it got the 2.1 update... maybe we would be looking at a similar fix for the evo??

Why dont you repost this with a bounty to get this fixed?

frettfreak said:
I think there was a similar issue with the Droid when it got the 2.1 update... maybe we would be looking at a similar fix for the evo??
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I wonder if there is a ROM of 1.6 that can be flashed on the Evo?

jigglywiggly said:
Dude... the phone is choppy.
30fps is really laggy! Think about the emulators, those rely solely on cpu speed.
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funny on my phone i notice no "choppyness" or lag could be there but im to busy to notice

For starters, i'm not convinced that the evo runs the froyo/nexus1 boot animation at more than 30fps. it just looks to me like it "runs faster" after the GPU driver loads.
I haven't seen any indication that it's running at 60fps. Just faster than the 10fps it runs before the drivers lod
Second, the gaming lag issues have already been fixed in the froyo build. Asphalt is playable on v6+ of froyo.

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has anyone looked into OpenGL... i remember it has problems in the hero and it messed up the FPS but it was addressed by developers... maybe the problem lays in there.
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Is this the openGL issue you're referring to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592663?

linux patch that MASSIVELY improves smoothness

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1
This is a 200 line patch that according to linux was according to Linus the most impressive result of code that is elegant - 200 lines long - and should be wound into the phone linux as well
---- edit - and here is why it isnt going to be of any use for us...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822756&page=210
and the meat of it from bilboa1 :-
Originally Posted by giulio.alfano
Have you seen these? w_w_w.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1
Phoronix(and Linus) say that is a miraculous 200 lines patch to increase interactivty? Can you consider the inclusion, of course if group scheduling in android 2.6.32 kernel is compatible?
the process groups are created per tty, that wont work on android
you can create process groups by hand however but it doesn't make a lot of sense for android in that case. the goal is to have some intensive tasks into their own group, but theres no intensive tasks and we don't have issues like audio or video lagging
their tweak is especially good if you run a compilation in the background and want to browse the web while waiting without having slow downs.
on android if you browse the web you dont have other cpu heavy tasks in progress usually (like encoding a video or what not)
i hope that was clear enough

I've off works urlaub would bei awesome
Where are the developers, who can say, if it works?
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Wouldnt get too excited,phoronix is like the sun of linux news
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Already discussed - its useless on phone. Phone will be even slower.
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Already discussed - its useless on phone. Phone will be even slower.
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Lets save statements like these after it has been actually tested.

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Lets save statements like these after it has been actually tested.
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Not everything needs to be tested. If you make a program to draw a circle, it wont make a square, let alone cook eggs. (it's the case for this patch at the technical level, beyond the "wow" words from 1st post)
Note: there's other patches in 2.6.37 for responsiveness which are different from the one spoken about here which are actually likely to improve things. But probably not as drastic.

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Got any links to where I can find out what you know?
I was *hoping* that if it made desktops much more responsive under heavy loadings that it would help with the phone - its not like we have slow cpu's in these things Or is it cpu architecture that allows the improvments and the phones just are not compatible? or something else?
just wanting to know more and to hopefully get a dev who thinks its worth taking a look to see - 200 lines of code - *cof* (ducks behind armour) "how hard could it be?" *runs for cover*
i get this sinking feeling from the subtle - and not so subtle comments from you guys tho - that its just not really suited for how android works on a phone....

cbdrift said:
Got any links to where I can find out what you know?
I was *hoping* that if it made desktops much more responsive under heavy loadings that it would help with the phone - its not like we have slow cpu's in these things Or is it cpu architecture that allows the improvments and the phones just are not compatible? or something else?
just wanting to know more and to hopefully get a dev who thinks its worth taking a look to see - 200 lines of code - *cof* (ducks behind armour) "how hard could it be?" *runs for cover*
i get this sinking feeling from the subtle - and not so subtle comments from you guys tho - that its just not really suited for how android works on a phone....
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Read last 5 pages in hardcore kernel topic.

knowing one and the other about linux, I have to disagree with those who say: it's gonna make your phone slower..
why? in linux, things constantly run in the background. and what this patch does, is give priority to foreground processes. True, there isn't MUCH in the background, so results may not be super, but the compile with 64 threads is just AN EXAMPLE of what it can do. That's the PERFECT situation to demonstrate. This doesn't mean that it sucks for everything else! It just means that it works
So stop *****ing and just test it before you start yapping that it's bad, doesn't work on phones etc... There is no right and wrong here, there is just: test it and see if it works!
i'd like to have a REAL technical discussion with these people here that are so-called experts... Because their arguments (excusez-le-mot) SUCK.
so please adapt your first post, because what they are saying is just guessing and not based on experiments nor experience, which renders it completely useless
Just my 2 cents

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discussion is worthless, you can't convince me with some "maybe this, possibly that", if you say it's useless: give hard numbers or (sorry, but...) stfu!

UPDATE:
i've been reading up on the lkml and i think there are some very interesting possibilities here...
What this program does, is put the tty-bound processes in a special cgroup. While this is done automatically, there is also a possibility to just do the same in userspace. (check Lennart from redhat's solution).
It basicly creates a different cgroup for foreground processes, he does it in the bash profile. But i think that with this in mind, we can create cgroup handler for our "most important" apps to make them more responsive!
I've been looking into hardcore's kernel and it already has cgroup support built in, so it's actually just a matter of using it properly
how? check lennart's comments further in the lkml thread because you have to look out to clean up cgroups when no more processes use it.
Anyway, when properly tuned, it should be even better than the kernel patch people talked about!

These type of changes would suit more underpowered devices like the Hero or G1 but imho I dont know why the galaxy S needs it, my IO after applying OCLF is 2300+ apps, any lag issues are not due to the current modded kernels available as they are really good..

Idk why people don't understand simple things
cgroups does not magically makes your apps more responsive. It makes groups of processes which are scheduled together at the same level instead of doing it per process.
So, the group of "make" processes during a make -j64 get all globally a lower share of resources (than if they weren't grouped), allowing the group "browser" process to get enough resources to be smooth.
Without, each make process (64 of them) would get an equal resource time, which would also be equal to the browser, which ends up not being very nice for the desktop.
Now on the phone.. do you have a make -j64 running [IN THE BACKGROUND]? nope. do you have an heavy process or group of processes running [IN THE BACKGROUND]? nope.
Your front task is always the one taking most resources. If you put it in a group you might even decrease it's performance and responsiveness.
It's a double edged sword. You see, when they schedule the make -j64 process group, your browser is smooth but the make -j 64 process group is *slower*.
So unless a group of processes on the phone are taking too much cpu (i know of none doing that unless they're on the foreground), it's useless

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Idk why people don't understand simple things
cgroups does not magically makes your apps more responsive. It makes groups of processes which are scheduled together at the same level instead of doing it per process.
So, the group of "make" processes during a make -j64 get all globally a lower share of resources (than if they weren't grouped), allowing the group "browser" process to get enough resources to be smooth.
Without, each make process (64 of them) would get an equal resource time, which would also be equal to the browser, which ends up not being very nice for the desktop.
Now on the phone.. do you have a make -j64 running [IN THE BACKGROUND]? nope. do you have an heavy process or group of processes running [IN THE BACKGROUND]? nope.
Your front task is always the one taking most resources. If you put it in a group you might even decrease it's performance and responsiveness.
It's a double edged sword. You see, when they schedule the make -j64 process group, your browser is smooth but the make -j 64 process group is *slower*.
So unless a group of processes on the phone are taking too much cpu (i know of none doing that unless they're on the foreground), it's useless
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very true... that's why it still might be possible to group "your current task" and "all the rest". That (might) give you an advantage still...
and as said: i'm not saying it IS better, i'm saying it might be worth testing
hence the suggestion i put in post 11: make something that puts the application you start in foreground in a dedicated group and EVERYTHING else in another. When you background that process, move it to the "pool" group
it might just help!! (so... don't shoot the idea too soon )

This is what really really annoys me!!!

Why is it when there are any articles on the Xperia Play the comment sections are always full of "know it all's" that slag the device off without even trying it?
Take a look at Eurogamers new article for example then go down to the comments section - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-06-sony-ericsson-no-need-for-xperia-play-2
grrrrrrr

just a tip,1.6 GHZ is abit to hot.I've being using 1.4 and 1.5 and they work just as great
Also,ignore the comments,IRL if you show your hacked/Modded PLay their brains would go out the window
Atleast thats whats happened to me once i showed how fast it was,oh and gamepaddd

Cat_On_Droid said:
just a tip,1.6 GHZ is abit to hot.I've being using 1.4 and 1.5 and they work just as great
Also,ignore the comments,IRL if you show your hacked/Modded PLay their brains would go out the window
Atleast thats whats happened to me once i showed how fast it was,oh and gamepaddd
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I've actually put mine down to 1.4ghz only to try and balance the battery a bit as 1.6ghz was going through the battery rather quickly!

FK1983 said:
I've actually put mine down to 1.4ghz only to try and balance the battery a bit as 1.6ghz was going through the battery rather quickly!
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Lowering the voltages will have a better effect on battery than lowering the clock speed

can't blame them for wanting more power.but..
whats the good of dual core if you just use is to call and text people

They are just jelly because they don't have one.

subcu1ture said:
They are just jelly because they don't have one.
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+1 Totally agree

AndroHero said:
Lowering the voltages will have a better effect on battery than lowering the clock speed
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What do you have yours set to? when I tried it I froze the screen so had to reboot!

Yeah, the nobs probably don't have one and are jealous because they signed a 4 year contract and still paid 400 for an iphone that is obsolete this month or next.

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What do you have yours set to? when I tried it I froze the screen so had to reboot!
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Same here xD
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Problem its people look at specs and benchmarks and never do their own research, very annoying that people including supposedly respectable reviewers are too bothered about the silly specs!
IMO this phone is better than any I've tried, sensation, galaxy s2, desire hd and s none hold up to the gaming and general experience of the XP, just need more advocates like us!
Sony have done really well with the software and all the xda people make things loads better!
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Zombie iPhone fanboys, don't even bother reading their comments.

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people look at specs and benchmarks and never do their own research
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Ditto.
People using 'single core' as an argument against it automatically revoke any chance that their opinion is reputable. People who know what they're talking about know it has some blazing fast high-quality memory and acceleration that's great enough to keep it's performance right up there with the dual cores.
Samurai II on Xperia PLAY runs just as smoothly as it does on the Atrix.

Don't mind them.. I came from iPhone also, but nothing compares our phone for now.. I know deep inside of them they want this phone too, they just dont admit that they made a wrong decision by choosing their current phone over this..

I’m happy with it and that is all that matters to me.

Can we expect more roms anytime soon?

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I would love to see more roms and for this beautiful piece of hardware
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Honestly, I'd like to see some kernel development.
And now I feel like a jerk. :/

Yeah I'm patiently waiting but there's not a lot of action going on. We need more devs on board to help each other out. Wish I could code to help.
Losing the stock apps is a problem for most people that bought this tablet though

If I ever get the time (unlikely...) I might take a crack at Omni.
I'm kind of waiting to see how the new Nexus rumors pan out. If the next Nexus tablet has a K1, that'll make Android L a lot easier.
There's also, as some people said, the fact that there are quite a lot of stock features of the device that are actually quite nice. There's also the fact that the stock firmware is quite clean, reducing the need to tweak it.

Some of the stock apps really don't want to play nicely, I've tried installing the controller app though adb with necessary lib for the controller recently but had an issue with an incompatible user. I looked through the file that has all of that info Haven't had a ton of time to flip between stock/cm and progress any more than that.
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Tbh, I think we're lucky to have the roms that are currently being developed. The SHIELD isn't exactly the most popular tablet and with the Nexus coming everyones gonna jump on that. The roms we have now are pretty darn decent and the dev's are doin good work. We shouldn't rush them or ask more from them, and the tablets still fairly new. I'm sure by the end of the year we'll have plenty of things to play with, hopefully a good kernel as well!

What ROM's are you interested in?

Close to stock but ability to over clock, some more mods, improvement in audio. Maybe a way to improve GPU performance.
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jsnoop said:
Close to stock but ability to over clock, some more mods, improvement in audio. Maybe a way to improve GPU performance.
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Spot on.
I'd love to be able to use themes too, but that means a fully working CM on top of all that.
I don't think it's going to happen

kickassdave said:
Spot on.
I'd love to be able to use themes too, but that means a fully working CM on top of all that.
I don't think it's going to happen
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The CM port is pretty darn close to perfect aside from Touch not working after a few hours being locked.

It would be great for someone to make a really customizable ROM for this tablet... but for some reason I just don't see it happening

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The CM port is pretty darn close to perfect aside from Touch not working after a few hours being locked.
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Close but no cigar!
None of the Nvidia apps work, and I'm guessing that's why most people even got this tablet!
Just encountered the freeze on the latest Carbon too.

joshuabg said:
What ROM's are you interested in?
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In truth, my Droid MAXX has ruined me for ROMS because it's basically stock.
If we could get like an optimized kernel with over clock, I would be super happy.
Now that I've been that guy, I just want to say thank you for the recoveries and all your work. It's super awesome.

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That's a problem even on stock.
There's a slight chance I might take a crack at a kernel with some small fixes (such as my micro idle accounting patch for conservative...), but I can assure you, you'll never see overclock coming from me. Current devices are all thermally limited as it is, overclock is pointless, it just makes you hit the thermal barriers faster. It's also the #1 reason why many OEMs try to voice your warranty the moment you unlock the bootloader.

Entropy512 said:
That's a problem even on stock.
There's a slight chance I might take a crack at a kernel with some small fixes (such as my micro idle accounting patch for conservative...), but I can assure you, you'll never see overclock coming from me. Current devices are all thermally limited as it is, overclock is pointless, it just makes you hit the thermal barriers faster. It's also the #1 reason why many OEMs try to voice your warranty the moment you unlock the bootloader.
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Have to agree too. Overclocking is pointless. Last time I needed it was for my S2 years ago.
I'm buying the controller this weekend and reverting to a stock ROM, I'm guessing at this point I'm in the same position as most owners where unless stock apps can run on AOSP ROMs, I'll be sticking with stock.
Which means my only want then would be a nicely optimised stock ROM, maybe a theme or two and a tweakable (not overclocking) kernel.
And before anyone says it, I do not EXPECT this or demand this, it'd just be nice

Entropy512 said:
That's a problem even on stock.
There's a slight chance I might take a crack at a kernel with some small fixes (such as my micro idle accounting patch for conservative...), but I can assure you, you'll never see overclock coming from me. Current devices are all thermally limited as it is, overclock is pointless, it just makes you hit the thermal barriers faster. It's also the #1 reason why many OEMs try to voice your warranty the moment you unlock the bootloader.
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You guys are the experts! I'll be happy with whatever I can get.

I just hope that either Nvidia will support the device for a LONG time or we can have some devs that keep supporting the device long into the future. Just in case you guys havnt heard it, Nvidia have said that this device defiantly will be getting android L.

Am I the only one whose gps does not work on custom Roms?!?!!!! All of em gmaps says no gps hardware found. I could probably live with the screen touch issue if GPS worked. Need it for Ingress ?

Entropy512 said:
That's a problem even on stock.
There's a slight chance I might take a crack at a kernel with some small fixes (such as my micro idle accounting patch for conservative...), but I can assure you, you'll never see overclock coming from me. Current devices are all thermally limited as it is, overclock is pointless, it just makes you hit the thermal barriers faster. It's also the #1 reason why many OEMs try to voice your warranty the moment you unlock the bootloader.
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I just turn off the lockscreen and use Attentive for my lockscreen and I never have that issue. lol.
I agree as well Overclocking is really pointless. A kernel with fastcharge would be nice though.