Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus - Galaxy Tab 10.1 General

Any 10.1 Devs willing to help out the 7.0 Plus forum? We're hurting on dev and could really use some of you. Anyone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1426

aaronuser said:
Any 10.1 Devs willing to help out the 7.0 Plus forum? We're hurting on dev and could really use some of you. Anyone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1426
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Most devs don't develop for a device they don't own.. Maybe start a thread in the 7.0 Plus area asking if someone has one to donate and / or raise cash to buy a dev one..
We are pretty lucky with the 10.1 as we have some of the best devs on XDA here..

I know a few devs were tempted by the 7 Plus (an Exynos Tab? Sounds great! At least at first) but then were turned off by the AR6000 driver source code fiasco.
A closed-source binary module that has been identified to be the root of documented stability problems for a device is a developer's nightmare, and a great way to completely kill its desirability for a developer.
I was considering the 7 Plus, but the AR6000 driver mess made me decide to wait for a device that Samsung didn't **** up.
Not like I'd be much benefit - you already have a very good kernel developer and I've given him a whole pile of pointers.

Entropy512 said:
I know a few devs were tempted by the 7 Plus (an Exynos Tab? Sounds great! At least at first) but then were turned off by the AR6000 driver source code fiasco.
A closed-source binary module that has been identified to be the root of documented stability problems for a device is a developer's nightmare, and a great way to completely kill its desirability for a developer.
I was considering the 7 Plus, but the AR6000 driver mess made me decide to wait for a device that Samsung didn't **** up.
Not like I'd be much benefit - you already have a very good kernel developer and I've given him a whole pile of pointers.
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Greatly appreciate your help. I personally own a 10.1 but purchased a 7+ as well for a custom vehicle install.
I understand DEV's don't normally dev on a device they don't have. But it does happen...quite a bit on some devices. Just trying to wrussle up some love is all.
Thank guys

The ability to do blind development is highly dependent on how similar a device is to one the developer owns.
For example, I finally started blind developing I9100 kernels because the difference is incredibly small and you can compile for both I9100 and I777 with just one defconfig change.
The Tab 7 Plus is completely and totally different from anything else out there, and the presence of closed-source modules makes blind development nearly impossible even if there were similar hardware.

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Roms, Kernal Patches, etc.

Alright lets get the record straight. Has anyone tried the kernal patch that puts your mem on a partition on the sd card. Supposidly this boosts performance out of this world. Please post here if you have tried this.
Secondly, we need to attract some developers. I'm willing to donate if anyone wants to code for us. We got a great user base and a really good product. Im conviced the captivate is by far one of the better phones from the galaxy s lineup. If any one knows some developers, introduce them tot his godly beast and let them know there are people out here willing to pay for good quality fixes and roms.
I was thinkin about asking for help from the guys running international s. We could post and ask in the xda area and also modaco and androidforums which have big communities as well.
Any other ideas on how to attract developers? Post here.
systoxity said:
Alright lets get the record straight. Has anyone tried the kernal patch that puts your mem on a partition on the sd card. Supposidly this boosts performance out of this world. Please post here if you have tried this.
Secondly, we need to attract some developers. I'm willing to donate if anyone wants to code for us. We got a great user base and a really good product. Im conviced the captivate is by far one of the better phones from the galaxy s lineup. If any one knows some developers, introduce them tot his godly beast and let them know there are people out here willing to pay for good quality fixes and roms.
I was thinkin about asking for help from the guys running international s. We could post and ask in the xda area and also modaco and androidforums which have big communities as well.
Any other ideas on how to attract developers? Post here.
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I'm down to donate as well and do anything I can to add to the cause. I really hope this phone takes off cause it is great. I think we have a good chance that a lot of the N1 devs might just come over to this phone and if not they should be getting the Vibrant and I doubt that it will be much trouble to port over to Captivate.
Err why is it better lol? all the samsung galaxy S phones are exacly the same internaly...none its better than the other, the only difrence is the lack of flash/camera and keyboard from the other variants.
rafyvitto said:
Err why is it better lol? all the samsung galaxy S phones are exacly the same internaly...none its better than the other, the only difrence is the lack of flash/camera and keyboard from the other variants.
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Image, Image, Image. If the galaxy lineup were real life siblings, the captivate would be the only one going to the prom. It also sports fewer gps issues than the vibrant and galaxy s. Ive also seen way less people complain about lag in these forums than the ones for the vibrant and galaxy s (and we have more viewers here than on the vibrant page).
When devs see this device they should be seeing potential.
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Image, Image, Image. If the galaxy lineup were real life siblings, the captivate would be the only one going to the prom. It also sports fewer gps issues than the vibrant and galaxy s. Ive also seen way less people complain about lag in these forums than the ones for the vibrant and galaxy s (and we have more viewers here than on the vibrant page).
When devs see this device they should be seeing potential.
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All of these so called "issues' are software based, its samsung ****ty touchwiz UI that lags like ****ing hell, not the device hardware, and yes i do agree that the captivate is the sexiest of them all.
Im pretty sure it would be painless to port over Vibrant or Galaxy S fixes to the Captivate. Internally they are the same except for a few minor differences like rafyvitto said which wouldn't be that hard to fix. I'm brushing up on my Java skills and learning about the internals of Android right now. Ive been a iPhone person for a while. Hopefully soon I can be of some help and get hacking on Captivate. From what I've seen and read we have a good phone to develop for because its easily rooted and has an unlocked bootloader. I've also heard that the drivers for the Galaxy S lineup are encrypted, but I haven't seen any confirmation of that. What we need is a dump of the current ROM and also we need a better recovery system like Amon_RA's recovery. The source for his recovery system is on GitHub so we could try and port it over to the Galaxy S lineup.
shouldnt samsung be releasing source for drivers any day now? I thought the word around town was that they were being open with the community on this jazz.
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shouldnt samsung be releasing source for drivers any day now? I thought the word around town was that they were being open with the community on this jazz.
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They have already released the source code for the Galaxy S here. They don't have to release the source for the drivers because they are proprietary, but from what ive read the binaries for the drivers are in that download so all someone would have to do in link them in. I just don't know if the drivers are encrypted meaning that it has to be an official samsung ROM for them to work. Hopefully not because that would make cooking new ROMs a hell of alot easier.
we should ask the modaco guys for help and info. I dont think we can use the source or drivers from the galaxy s international. I think someone tried doing stuff that way and bricked.
i could be wrong tho
Would also be willing to donate to the cause. The only reason I didn't buy an iPhone 4 is the developers for this phone.
@wesgarner is on the CyanogenMod team / TeamDouche and has ordered a Vibrant.
We might be able to encourage him to port the latest CyanogenMod build once he has the Vibrant's build completed.
He purchased a Vibrant and I think a laptop to do the work. I've already sent him an email about being a beta tester for the Captivate.
Just remember the devs have a life outside of working on phones! Don't ask for timelines - whether you donate or not!
Wes is working on a port for the slide and then he'll be working on the Vibrant.
While the hardware is similar - the software isn't exactly the same. I was messing around with the MMS.apk today and tried to replace my corrupted one with the one from the Vibrant - did NOT work.
Also, the device is capable of having a REAL FMRadio. The Euro versions have an FMradio.apk. I pushed it to the Captivate - but, the Captivate will need the drivers (to build into a kernal) for the FMRadio to work. But, this is entirely possible.
So, yes the hardware is basically the same or similar - it won't necessarily easy. If any of you remember, LOL - this will be akin to porting the N1 build over to the Desire - I think.
The first thing to go should be that awful samsung UI lol. I think the challenge will be porting ROMs for all these different Galaxy S models. I saw this coming when I read the device would make it to all four major carriers in the US plus.
thanks shane, i also heard another dev recently purchased a captivate, do you know anything about this? i'd like to support his endeavors.
Yea I read over in the Vibrant forums that a dev just got a captivate and is working on a recovery. They also have wes working on the Vibrant so hopefully they get cookin on some ROMs. It won't be that much of a hassle to port them over to the captivate. I would advise not fooling around too much with your phone because someone has already messed up his/her phone. They will either have to take it into ATT store and replace it or wait for a dump of the original ROM to come out.
I have tired the MoDaCo rom and it does (kinda - not brick) work with the SGH-I897 (captivate model), I was able to use it to remove the ATT crapware and nearly everything seems to be working. Phone reports its self as Model Number: GT-I9000 in the about phone tab.
One very IMPORTANT problem - I am having difficulty making outgoing phone calls.
Things that I can confirm work:
Bluetooth file transfer
3g data
GSM phone calls (incoming calls work)
Camera
Audible app, pandora ect.
SMS outgoing and incoming messages
Pretty much everything I have tested on the phone except making outgoing phone calls (important as it is a phone after all). So DON'T use this ROM yet, and if you do make a backup.
Hope this helps.

[BOUNTY] $$$ for CyanogenMod on the Samsung Galaxy S2

NOTE: donations will be deposited directly to the DEV that comes up with a proven working ROM
[OP] will keep the To Be Donator list updated frequently as people pledges their donation.
The Samsung Galaxy S2 is one of the best and maybe the most powerfull phone at the moment. It will surely be a very popular phone. We really need to get the most popular Custom ROM, CyanogenMod on the device.
This is a bounty thread for developers who are able to provide a stable CM7+ CyanogenMod ROM for the Samsung Galaxy S2
I'm gonna start with $20
Please write the amount you are willing to donate in this thread.
Bounty: $3394
Go here for a list of all donators.
There are Nightly Builds available for the SG2 now.
Put me in for $50
This is how much i hate touchwiz
Im in UK, but ill donate the equivalent of $30.
I hate TouchWiz too. CM would be awesome...if not CM then just any stock Android ROM.
I'm a poor student so $5
(when it is ported, please send a pm regarding it, I'll probably forget)
$10 here......
If fully hardware accelerated that is
$20 here, but hardware acceleration is a must!
$20 here too
CM with working camera, Voodoo Sound and comparable battery life - will earn a $20 from me
FYI, you can just get a different launcher instead of touchwiz, but CM7 doesnt have the hardware acceleration that samsung has in several apps (including the browser) Trust me, browsing will never be as fast with CM as it is with samsungs tweaks. With the SGS1 there was a lot to tweak, but samsung learnt from its mistakes. (see ext4 by default, no bootlock, flash, better gps, etc)
I will put down another 10 only if it will be custom cm made for the sgs2, incorporating all the current hardware accelerations. (which will be unlikely since CM uses android source and not samsung source)
Just look at the difference in quality between custom 2.3.3 roms based on official firmware and cm7.1 for SGS1..
Edit: Please note in OP that my donation requires samsungs tweaks in browser acceleration etc and audio/video codex. (this is not the case for the SGS1, my reason not to use cm7/miui) (nice everyone is updating their post with these requirements, im not the only one!)
I put down your offer, because we all want the full experience with hardware acceleration, if possible.
As much as I like CM, I got really used to MIUI. I am really hoping for an MIUI port.
Good for you, but that doesn't belong in the bounty thread
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As much as I like CM, I got really used to MIUI. I am really hoping for an MIUI port.
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MIUI is based on CM
GS2 cant get MIUI unless it gets CM first
ok, who is going to be the main lead in this operation, and what are your plans to handle the donations?
and who / where is the donation going to
we need all that answered before we can approve this [BOUNTY] otherwise this is going to be locked down real soon
Go on then I will donate $50 too.
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ok, who is going to be the main lead in this operation, and what are your plans to handle the donations?
and who / where is the donation going to
we need all that answered before we can approve this [BOUNTY] otherwise this is going to be locked down real soon
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Well, I wanted to know here how to get CM support for the Samsung Galaxy S2, someone suggested that I should open a Bounty Thread.
If we got a large enough amount together and a dev is interested in programing CM for the S2 then we would donate the money via paypal. I would write to every participant in this thread and check with the dev if he received the money. Would that be ok with you?
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Well, I wanted to know here how to get CM support for the Samsung Galaxy S2, someone suggested that I should open a Bounty Thread.
If we got a large enough amount together and a dev is interested in programing CM for the S2 then we would donate the money via paypal. I would write to every participant in this thread and check with the dev if he received the money. Would that be ok with you?
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I would suggest from past bounties that the best way to do this would be to keep this going "as is" and wait until a developer has produced such a ROM, and then users can choose to donate to them via their donate link. The OP can be edited to reflect this and point them to the person who got it running on the device.
Since it's not done yet though, no money should be getting paid around (for your own protection since it might not happen), and there will obviously be no specific recipient at this point until the task is achieved...
Well, that's ok with me. So we'll keep collecting donators until a dev comes up with a ROM.
Stitch! said:
FYI, you can just get a different launcher instead of touchwiz, but CM7 doesnt have the hardware acceleration that samsung has in several apps (including the browser) Trust me, browsing will never be as fast with CM as it is with samsungs tweaks. With the SGS1 there was a lot to tweak, but samsung learnt from its mistakes. (see ext4 by default, no bootlock, flash, better gps, etc)
I will put down another 10 only if it will be custom cm made for the sgs2, incorporating all the current hardware accelerations. (which will be unlikely since CM uses android source and not samsung source)
Just look at the difference in quality between custom 2.3.3 roms based on official firmware and cm7.1 for SGS1..
May the fourth be with you all
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it's pretty obvious that samsung DOES have the browser hardware accelerated. i know the original galaxy s got updated by samsung to do the same hardware graphics update. but how do we know for sure, is there any official info on this?
ragiut1 said:
Put me in for $50
This is how much i hate touchwiz
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Get LauncherPro then?

[DEV Collaboration] Galaxy Tab P1010 WIFI - Cyanogenmod - Kernel 3.0.x

Hello Folks,
I am a Recognized XDA Developer and I work on Cyanogenmod for Samsung Galaxy SL I9003 which is an exact similar device to Galaxy Tab P1010 (TI OMAP3630).
We have got fully working CM9 and CM10 on Galaxy SL, with few minor issues with video recording and laggy interface. However, we are working on porting the new 3.0.8 kernel that was released on omapzoom. This new kernel would help us resolve issues that we have been affecting ICS and JB releases.
So far, we have managed to get the kernel booting with few basic stuff like Touchscreen, Panel, Audio, Keypad, Vibrator working. Galaxy SL is exactly similar to Galaxy Tab P1010 WIFI and it essentially shares the same kernel and I suspect that most of the userspace stuff also should be the same. I was informally asked by cdesai if I was interested to develop for this device, but I had to turn my back since I wasn't really having the time for it.
However, since we are working on a new kernel for Galaxy SL from scratch, I would really like to take the initiative of making something useful for P1010 too, keeping in mind the small user base for Galaxy SL, we thought our work could be useful for P1010 and would benefit more people.
We would like developers working on P1010 to come forward and let us know the current status of development on this device (Kernels, Custom Roms, Attempts at CM, etc), so that we could plan something accordingly. Also, we would be interested to know how many people actually own this device and would like to have CM over it. Let's use this topic as a playground!
Sources for Galaxy SL
Stable CM9 and CM10
Kernel: https://github.com/teamhacksung/android_kernel_samsung_latona
Device: https://github.com/teamhacksung/android_device_samsung_galaxysl
Experimental 3.0 Kernel
https://github.com/dhiru1602/android_kernel_samsung_latona
Thank you!
Let's do it people, I'm willing to help dhiru as well.
I'm in too
@dhiru (Y)
This is fantastic news, and thanks for considering the P1010 as everywhere else I've looked hasn't really got anywhere. While I'm afraid I won't be able to help with any of the development (I wish I could, but I'm too busy as it is), I can use my device for testing. Keep it up, and I can't wait until it's all sorted.
Personally, I'd love to have any version of CM on this tablet, as Android 2.3.6 is looking really dated now, and the interface is laggy compared to that of Android 4.1 devices. I've upgraded to CM10 on my Galaxy S and it's so much smoother than it was, I can only hope the same is possible for this device, as it's certainly capable.
Also, I know Motofoca over on the MadTeam forums was working on it (which you already know, most likely), but he's not mentioned anything towards progress in a while. I can't post a link though, considering I've got less than 10 posts, so you'll have to google it.
Any help I can give is gladly offered, now when it comes to coding I am rusty... In fact I think the rust has extra layers of rust but know what I am looking at and can spot the bugs and offer suggestions.
I have two of these and still think the actual build of them is excellent so would love to have some decent internals
Sent from my LT26i using xda app-developers app
Seems like there are not many who own this device. That's sad.
dhiru1602 said:
Seems like there are not many who own this device. That's sad.
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I'm owning a P1000 too (as per the question of the OP) and I would really like to have a current CM 10.1 release with kernel 3.0 on it... I'm a java developer with some C++ background but I didn't have the time yet to dive into android development (neither high nor low level)..
If there is anything to test or provide info about just ask..
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Seems like there are not many who own this device. That's sad.
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P1010 here !
Greets from Perú
dhiru1602 said:
Seems like there are not many who own this device. That's sad.
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I have a P1010 and I also like to help!!!
I wanna help too!
P1010 here! Can't Dev but will gladly test!
Sent from Razr Maxx running Full Throttle Killer Bean
I've got a 1010. I'm a themer, not a dev though..
i have it too. i'am an Indonesian.
friesoft said:
I'm owning a P1000 too (as per the question of the OP) and I would really like to have a current CM 10.1 release with kernel 3.0 on it... I'm a java developer with some C++ background but I didn't have the time yet to dive into android development (neither high nor low level)..
If there is anything to test or provide info about just ask..
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I don't know whether this was a typo or not, but you can get CM10 or CM9.1 (stable) for the P1000 already. Just look on the cyanogenmod site for the P1. This is for the P1010 which is the WIFI only version of that tab and doesn't yet have a release of cyanogenmod for it.
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Seems like there are not many who own this device. That's sad.
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I've been waiting for this, I can test on my p1010
dhiru1602 said:
I am a Recognized XDA Developer and I work on Cyanogenmod for Samsung Galaxy SL I9003 which is an exact similar device to Galaxy Tab P1010 (TI OMAP3630).
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Also, we would be interested to know how many people actually own this device and would like to have CM over it. Let's use this topic as a playground!
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Thank you!
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Hi, I have it. I also have some experience with kernel on Omap4 (I developed for 3.0.x and 3.2.x), but very little time to share at the moment.
Please post here in this thread any update or request.
Thanks
P1010 here also. Plenty of processing power and a website for storage and distribution...
Sent from my VM "Evo 3D" using 2ʞןɐʇɐdɐʇ .
I'm also willing to test. These tabs are great, just not many developers working with them.
p1010 with cm10
Looking forward to trying their huge creations from Ecuador ... CMs for the P1010, do not let this device die. Sorry for my English, I hope this well written ..
Hello guys, I also have a P1010! maybe I can help you as a tester, I have experience with flashing and rooting

Support Xiaomi Mi2/2S please

Hi devs... it is a sincere request from you all...
Here in XDA, we dont have any thread related to Xiaomi's Mi2/2s.
I hope by now people have heard enough about Xiaomi as their latest flagship model is getting shipped soon... Mi3
I request the developers of Omni ROM to support Xiaomi devices, especially Mi2/2S pls just like other CM , AOSP & AOKP ROMs r doing...
Waiting for your reply... Thanks in advance....
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Hi devs... it is a sincere request from you all...
Here in XDA, we dont have any thread related to Xiaomi's Mi2/2s.
I hope by now people have heard enough about Xiaomi as their latest flagship model is getting shipped soon... Mi3
I request the developers of Omni ROM to support Xiaomi devices, especially Mi2/2S pls just like other CM , AOSP & AOKP ROMs r doing...
Waiting for your reply... Thanks in advance....
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Xiaomi are notorious for being flagrant GPL violators, so - highly unlikely.
Just like CM, the real deciding factor for support is, "will a maintainer pick it up?"
Entropy512 said:
Xiaomi are notorious for being flagrant GPL violators, so - highly unlikely.
Just like CM, the real deciding factor for support is, "will a maintainer pick it up?"
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Oh come on... please don't punish the users based on company's attitude...
It is a great phone with great UI. just like Nexus 4 it has similar hardware.
All we request here is where ever a new developer wants to build a open sourced ROM, they say not to touch Xiaomi... & everybody wants to build a ROM for Nexus & other phones where they have too many options already...
This is not fair & is not necessary for Nexus & other phone models where they already have too many options available.
I am not saying that you shouldn't , but think in my way also pls.... As you may be aware of there are so many Xiaomi Mi2/2S users alone in Europe & other countries also... but the main problem is lack of good development support. only we should depend on the MIUI developers who keep releasing new build with minimal features based on 4.1.1 version. I mean , we are expecting 4.4 release soon & MIUI is still based on 4.1.1
come on man what the heck is going on... right ?i think always the same like this.... but what to do.. who will listen to our outcry ?
I thought atleast devs here care for our requests.... hence i gave it a go.... I really hope you understand our problem & support this device....
atleast consider from the users aspect pls... Thanks for understanding..... Take care.
I dont have any intention of being rude or arrogant here, i am just expressing my helplessness & pleading the devs for the betterment of android on all Xiaomi devices....
thats all... Thanks once again....
plikmuny said:
Oh come on... please don't punish the users based on company's attitude...
It is a great phone with great UI. just like Nexus 4 it has similar hardware.
All we request here is where ever a new developer wants to build a open sourced ROM, they say not to touch Xiaomi... & everybody wants to build a ROM for Nexus & other phones where they have too many options already...
This is not fair & is not necessary for Nexus & other phone models where they already have too many options available.
I am not saying that you shouldn't , but think in my way also pls.... As you may be aware of there are so many Xiaomi Mi2/2S users alone in Europe & other countries also... but the main problem is lack of good development support. only we should depend on the MIUI developers who keep releasing new build with minimal features based on 4.1.1 version. I mean , we are expecting 4.4 release soon & MIUI is still based on 4.1.1
come on man what the heck is going on... right ?i think always the same like this.... but what to do.. who will listen to our outcry ?
I thought atleast devs here care for our requests.... hence i gave it a go.... I really hope you understand our problem & support this device....
atleast consider from the users aspect pls... Thanks for understanding..... Take care.
I dont have any intention of being rude or arrogant here, i am just expressing my helplessness & pleading the devs for the betterment of android on all Xiaomi devices....
thats all... Thanks once again....
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I think you misunderstood. Without the kernel source it is pretty much impossible to support the device regardless of whether a dev wants to or not - we can't change that.
plikmuny said:
Oh come on... please don't punish the users based on company's attitude...
It is a great phone with great UI. just like Nexus 4 it has similar hardware.
All we request here is where ever a new developer wants to build a open sourced ROM, they say not to touch Xiaomi... & everybody wants to build a ROM for Nexus & other phones where they have too many options already...
This is not fair & is not necessary for Nexus & other phone models where they already have too many options available.
I am not saying that you shouldn't , but think in my way also pls.... As you may be aware of there are so many Xiaomi Mi2/2S users alone in Europe & other countries also... but the main problem is lack of good development support. only we should depend on the MIUI developers who keep releasing new build with minimal features based on 4.1.1 version. I mean , we are expecting 4.4 release soon & MIUI is still based on 4.1.1
come on man what the heck is going on... right ?i think always the same like this.... but what to do.. who will listen to our outcry ?
I thought atleast devs here care for our requests.... hence i gave it a go.... I really hope you understand our problem & support this device....
atleast consider from the users aspect pls... Thanks for understanding..... Take care.
I dont have any intention of being rude or arrogant here, i am just expressing my helplessness & pleading the devs for the betterment of android on all Xiaomi devices....
thats all... Thanks once again....
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Without kernel source and either platform reference sources, or a good idea of them...you simply can't go making ROMs...
That's why you don't have any. If you really care about custom ROM support, I'm afraid you need to ensure you only buy from GPL compliant suppliers, who use chip sets with good support in open source projects.
Also the prevalence of the device is significant, and I'm yet to see any of those devices in real life...ever... And I'm a phone geek...
If there aren't many out there, the chance of a developer inclined to get it working on any ROM is lower, as they are less likely to even have one.
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Without kernel source and either platform reference sources, or a good idea of them...you simply can't go making ROMs...
That's why you don't have any. If you really care about custom ROM support, I'm afraid you need to ensure you only buy from GPL compliant suppliers, who use chip sets with good support in open source projects.
Also the prevalence of the device is significant, and I'm yet to see any of those devices in real life...ever... And I'm a phone geek...
If there aren't many out there, the chance of a developer inclined to get it working on any ROM is lower, as they are less likely to even have one.
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Yup. If you want a device that has good developer support, do research before buying it. If it's a company that flagrantly violates the GPL on a regular basis - why are you giving them your money?
Basically, I am not spending my volunteer spare time to support a company that is engaging in the practice of managing to steal that which is practically given to them for free.
But seems that Xiaomi will set the kernel source free soon.
At least they said that..
http://miuiandroid.com/2013/09/17/exclusive-xiaomi-mi-device-kernel-will-open-sourced/
They are great phones with a great software/hardware optimization,
Without kernel source and either platform reference sources, or a good idea of them...you simply can't go making ROMs...
That's why you don't have any. If you really care about custom ROM support, I'm afraid you need to ensure you only buy from GPL compliant suppliers, who use chip sets with good support in open source projects.
Also the prevalence of the device is significant, and I'm yet to see any of those devices in real life...ever... And I'm a phone geek...
If there aren't many out there, the chance of a developer inclined to get it working on any ROM is lower, as they are less likely to even have one.
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I have an update for you ! Xiaomi releases their source code on 25th October .
Also there is one more hard working developer who without the Xiaomi's sources, has achieved what you are calling as unlikely & next to impossible... only problem for his ROM is camera driver.
He has a thread here in XDA also...
Fine if you all developers have already decided that you only develop or cook ROM for the well known models... it is ur wish. My wish i expressed & likewise you have also done your part.
And to all those who think Xiaomi is not a major player in Mobile industry & who have a false impression that it is just an another Chinese company... should do their research on their different models, their softwares , their track records & demand for their phone models & excellent hardware at best price. I agree they are not bigger than Google, but they are growing at a faster pace. I am not here to boast about that company, but i just shared my 3 months knowledge after buying Xiaomi Mi2S for the first time. Before that i was unaware of this company & had a same opinion like many of the people here have it....
Anyway... if Xiaomi releases for sure on 25th & my favorite developer releases his complete ROM.... pls delete this thread & i don't bother you guys also. It is almost perfect without camera.... thats why i am not using it for daily purpose.... may be you all should take a look at his work once.... AWESOME !
OK guys, dont think that i am trolling here or boasting here or something else.. i am just telling you the facts about my phone & the company which makes it....
Hoping to get a good & positive response from you all...
If Xiaomi makes major changes to their policy of rampant intellectual property theft, maybe things will change.
But in general, for a developer, our most limited resource is time. As a result, it's far better to work with a company that cooperates with the community and treats them with respect (Oppo, Sony, Google's Nexus devices) than one who constantly treats them like ****.
There's also the principle of the thing. I absolutely 100% refuse to work with the devices of any company that commits frequent GPL violations. Even if Xiaomi finally stops violating the GPL, they'll have to work hard for their long-standing track record of extremely poor behavior.
Same reason Samsungs are currently near the very bottom of my priority list, despite them having lots of users. Being lied to shamelessly on a regular basis (such as claiming that N8013 UEALGB was a "leak" and they didn't have to provide kernel source matching that build, despite it being preinstalled on every N8013 sold in the USA) leaves a lasting negative impression.
We should soon see a forum on here. The only reason it wasn't is because they want the source code and we should have that Oct 25 the can't wait.
Ive had my xiaomi mi2 for a little over a month and really like it. Can't wait til we see a forum Here.
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And do you think once the kernel is released some dev could enable the LTE in Mi2S?
Seems that the processor Snapdragon 600 has LTE integrated.
But maybe is not that easy...
cregi said:
And do you think once the kernel is released some dev could enable the LTE in Mi2S?
Seems that the processor Snapdragon 600 has LTE integrated.
But maybe is not that easy...
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Its not possible. Its not set up for it. Its a hardware change to get lte. The mi3 is 3g only so the earliest I see lte is mi3s.
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A hardware change?? But the snapdragon 600 has not the LTE chip integrated? Samsung S4 has the same processor and has LTE...
I am not an expert, just wondering...
Yes, the S600 does have LTE built-in.
But if the device does not have LTE amplifier on board, you could enable/use LTE, but you'll get really poor network reception.
It's already been done on the Nexus 4, but was not really usable as-is. The lack of amplifier makes it a bad idea. It's only good for the proof-of-concept.
I understand now.. it's a pity... Thank you for the info.
Now the question is, would you buy a phone like Mi2S without LTE,?
now that the 4g is extending more and more, and thinking that the phone should last at least 2 years... I am not sure if i should buy it or not...
cregi said:
A hardware change?? But the snapdragon 600 has not the LTE chip integrated? Samsung S4 has the same processor and has LTE...
I am not an expert, just wondering...
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6541/the-state-of-qualcomms-modems-wtr1605-and-mdm9x25
Pay close attention to the RFFE block in the first diagram.
The Snapdragon 600 has NO integrated modem. The MDM9xxx does support LTE, IF paired with a WTR1605L - not every device has an L variant, and even if it does, band support requires the right components (PAs, filters) in the RFFE chain.
Yes, seems clear that Xiaomis Mi22s/a will never support LTE.
Waiting for Nexus 5 to choose my next phone...!
Ok guys, is there any point in maintaining this thread ?
when no dev is really interested in working on this one of the best hardware phone ?
I mean other than off topic discussion, nothing really in particular to ROM Dev for Mi2/2S going on in this thread especially.
It is upto the Moderator to decide what best can be done for the fate of this thread & hence Xiaomi Mi2/2S !!!
Thanks a lot for your precious time.
Take care.
OK guys so the Xiaomi kernel is already open sourced. That's a good new.
Will we see a forum here soon??
Hi
I think this might attract the attention of developers especially Entropy, Pulsar & other prominent persons...
waiting for their final word on the development of Omni ROM for Mi2....

[Q] Is the jflteatt a good phone to learn development on?

Hello! I have been studying a lot of topics related (if not required) to android ROM development since I was 15. I am age 18 now and I believe that I am ready to do what I set out to do when I rooted my first phone. I had originally purchased a nexus 4 to practice development on, only to have it suffer from irreparable water damage. I purchased the AT&T Galaxy S4 "jflteatt" to replace the nexus, and am currently using this phone. I have several questions and would appreciate any advice and input on how to further my knowledge of android development.
Is the S4 an ideal device to practice building from source and porting ROM's too?
Just how hard is it to "build from source"? I notice that most of the esteemed developers here on XDA have incredible experience in computer science fields.
I didn't list the experience I currently have because I would love for readers to list what areas they think are required to be an effective android developer. What areas would you suggest?
Is it acceptable to us a Virtual Machine to contain my Ubunut (64 bit) build environment? I plan on upgrading to a solid state drive when I can afford it. I have 8 out of 16 GB of RAM and 150 out of 500 GB of storage dedicated to my the Virtual Machine.
What would you suggest for a first project that I can do to get the hang of what non-app android developers do?
I am not finished with this post, I really need to go study for class and get off my XDA addiction. I am going to revisit this very soon to add anything I am forgetting and read the feedback.
NOTE: I have a tendency to really make people angry on XDA (well everywhere) without meaning to. So if I have offended anyone in any way shape or form, broken any rules, misplaced this thread, etc. Don't hesitate to let me know and I will promptly fix the problem to the best of my ability. I am very human and make mistakes, more than I care to admit.
I would say our s4 variant isnt the best choice, due to our locked bootloader...if you are on anything after MF3 than you wont even be able to test your source built roms since we have no real recovery after MF3.
With that said...your best device would be a nexus device...but looks like you already got the S4
And lastly, porting/buulding a preexisting rom from source is not that difficult, I have taken no computer science or coding classes and have successfully ported many roms through source.
Building your own custom rom from the ground based off pure aosp however is a diffenrt story and requires quite a bit if coding knowledge
Virtual machine will work, however dualbooting and building in a real linix environment will provide a faster build speeds
Hope that helps you...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
mg2195 said:
I would say our s4 variant isnt the best choice, due to our locked bootloader...if you are on anything after MF3 than you wont even be able to test your source built roms since we have no real recovery after MF3.
With that said...your best device would be a nexus device...but looks like you already got the S4
And lastly, porting/buulding a preexisting rom from source is not that difficult, I have taken no computer science or coding classes and have successfully ported many roms through source.
Building your own custom rom from the ground based off pure aosp however is a diffenrt story and requires quite a bit if coding knowledge
Virtual machine will work, however dualbooting and building in a real linix environment will provide a faster build speeds
Hope that helps you...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
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Building from pure AOSP is my ultimate goal, I should have worded that better. Adding my own features to android (hopefully useful ones) is something I have always sought to be able to do. I don't want to sound as though I want to leach off of other's hard work rather than contribute. More than anything, I want to be able to make useful contributions! Just thought I would specify. On another note, thank you for your suggestion and advice!

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