Article regarding buying the Kindle Fire as non-US user - Kindle Fire General

Hi all,
i wrote an article about the Kindle Fire for non-US customers, explaining what works out of the box and what kind of options you have if you want to make use of the full potential of the device.
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2012/03/review-kindle-fire-how-usable-is-it-outside-of-the-us/
this is not meant as an faq for technical stuff like rooting, but more of a overview of whats possible with this tablet. this is hopefully interesting for people thinking about getting a kindle fire which don't live in the USA and are not familiar with Androids possibilities.
Please let me know if there are any questions...

Edited first post as the URL has changed...

Hi
That is a very good article, and something I have been looking for as I live in UK.
You state:
Amazon pushes out updates to the Kindle Fire pretty often, which would normally be a great thing, but not so much if you are using a rooted device with the stock ROM. Updates are forced and there is no way to deny them, other than using the Kindle Fire only offline which of course makes no sense. The problem is that each update will break your root access so you have to wait for the community to again root the new version and provide an walkthrough for it. This cat and mouse play can get very annoying. Chances are that you don’t really need to stick with the stock Kindle Fire ROM anyway as most Amazon services can’t be used outside of the US. This is where custom ROMs come in handy
Does this mean that if you keep the stock ROM updates can still be pushed to the device but by changing the ROM it will freeze the pushed updates or is there no way that these can be stopped currently?

meso100 said:
Does this mean that if you keep the stock ROM updates can still be pushed to the device but by changing the ROM it will freeze the pushed updates or is there no way that these can be stopped currently?
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Yes, that's right. Keeping the stock ROM will mean OTA updates will be pushed to your device, and you might lose root.
With a custom ROM like the CM7 or CM9 Rom this will not happen, as you basically have a different device with that ROMs.
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Thanks for your help.
I have bookmarked your website for future reference and liked it on G+
Nice one!
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Thanks for the feedback!
meso100 said:
Thanks for your help.
I have bookmarked your website for future reference and liked it on G+
Nice one!
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Thank you so much for writing this article. =]
This will come in handy when I move out of the states shortly. lol

Cheshire.Love said:
Thank you so much for writing this article. =]
This will come in handy when I move out of the states shortly. lol
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Thanks. As far as i know you should be able to use your Kindle Fire normally outside of the US, if it has been activated using a real US Amazon account with a real credit card. All services should work.
But of course this won't last if you move to another country permanently (change address) and don't use your US credit card anymore...

The only thing missing now is an official CM9 build and hardware acceleration. Hopefully we will see this soon as it would really push the kindle fire capabilities.

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No Movies for Rooted XOOMs?? Devs unite!

Being that this dev community is the absolute best, I have to bring this to light.
Google Movie Support has just informed me that Google Movies will not work for rooted XOOMs. This just won't fly.
Is there anyone out there working on a fix or workaround for this?
I'd love root. I love movies. We shouldn't have to choose between the two.
gdogmcstyles said:
Being that this dev community is the absolute best, I have to bring this to light.
Google Movie Support has just informed me that Google Movies will not work for rooted XOOMs. This just won't fly.
Is there anyone out there working on a fix or workaround for this?
I'd love root. I love movies. We shouldn't have to choose between the two.
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I feel ya bro, and I'm pretty sure the devs are already looking into it. Since it is a DRM authorization issue, it is probably going to be a pretty good hack to get around it.
I'm confused by 2 things on this topic:
1) why does it matter if its rooted or not?
I would assume the answers is because root would allow us some magical privledge of copying a cache and possibly extracting video and then redistributing.
2) how the frig can it tell?
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that is why i cannot watch green hornet. i rented it to see how it would look on the xoom and it will not play
Kcarpenter said:
2) how the frig can it tell?
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My guess is either one of: (1) checking for the ro.secure property being set, or (2) doing something "rootable", like being able to read a certain file/directory, etc.
If in the former case, I don't have an idea of what to do that wouldn't require the HC source, but in the case of the latter, it'd be relatively easy to ... wait- don't let me help El Goog out. It's not rocket science (think rootkit, but in reverse).
Well instead of listening I tried it as well with The Green Hornet and couldn't download it. Kept getting error but these developers will come up with the answers they have been nothing short of amazing when it comes to the Moto Xoom
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kcrudup said:
My guess is either one of: (1) checking for the ro.secure property being set, or (2) doing something "rootable", like being able to read a certain file/directory, etc.
If in the former case, I don't have an idea of what to do that wouldn't require the HC source, but in the case of the latter, it'd be relatively easy to ... wait- don't let me help El Goog out. It's not rocket science (think rootkit, but in reverse).
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Assuming scenario 2, wouldn't Super User prompt for permissions? I would think its likely.
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This is the same with the blockbuster app on the Atrix. I can set SU to block requests from the app, but as long as I'm running rooted, it refuses to play (and tells you when you launch the app).
I don't understand the difference between this and running Itunes or Netflix on a "rooted" (admin capable) PC. Why is the phone different?
This is not development. Moved to general.
theimpaler747 said:
This is not development. Moved to general.
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Your forum, you run it your way, just a question.
With all due respect, couldn't OP remain if modified to [REQUEST] since it's a dev request? General is so filled with crap I think this may get lost. :/
bishop72 said:
that is why i cannot watch green hornet. i rented it to see how it would look on the xoom and it will not play
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So did you still get charged for it? The wifi version won't even get the movies for awhile. I don't know why Google doesn't have it ready for both.
It isn't very surprising to hear. None of the major studios will allow media to be downloaded without some form of restrictive DRM and root access probably violates their policies.
rebill said:
So did you still get charged for it? The wifi version won't even get the movies for awhile. I don't know why Google doesn't have it ready for both.
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? I saw the movie link in Web version of Market.
Yeah, you can order/get charged for it but it won't work. Need to contact customer service to get a refund. They told me they'll consider putting in a warning in the future before you buy it.
cur8or said:
Yeah, you can order/get charged for it but it won't work. Need to contact customer service to get a refund. They told me they'll consider putting in a warning in the future before you buy it.
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Would make more sense for it to check if you're rooted before the transaction goes through.
Nice Google, what a great way to pit the development community against you, even though Android would be nothing without us. Sellout.
Strange, I have unlocked and rooted Nexus One and could play any Netflix video in official Netflix app, so DRM works on rooted system. So may be it's problem with something else?
If you order thru your web browser by going to the web based android market and play it thru your web browser it works.
Thanks for the tip on the browser market thing it works
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nbajwill55 said:
Nice Google, what a great way to pit the development community against you, even though Android would be nothing without us. Sellout.
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Lol you're an idiot. It isn't googles fault they had to do this. If you were selling movies and wanted to make some money, would you want them to be distributed for free without your permission? I think not...

[Q] So let me get this straight...

If I root my Fire and Amazon decides to update again, it will **** it up and I will have to root it again? Every time my Fire gets and update?
Yes....
It is easy to reroot using SuperOneClick since it was already setup initially to root. Takes maybe 20 seconds. All apps are intact in data/app. Market may or not need to be re-copied over to system/app. No biggie.
Thanks. Also what will happen when I eventually get ICS for it? Will I still have to worry about updates from Amazon?
Once a custom ROM is installed, Amazon updates from or via Amazon are no more.
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Thank you very much for your help. Good to know. Looks like I'll wait to root until until ICS is ready.
CodenameDeadpool said:
Thank you very much for your help. Good to know. Looks like I'll wait to root until until ICS is ready.
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If ICS comes to the device. You might keep an eye out for a working port instead. Have not read any confirmed report that Amazon will release officially but may have missed it if so. Regardless a dev port might well be available before anything else.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1379208
One guy's already got it up and running. He just has to get the bugs out. You haven't heard? And no, since the OS on the fire is a heavily modified version of Gingerbread, I don't think Amazon would've taken the time to build all of that unless they were going to stick with it. BUT, like I said a ROM is almost ready.
CodenameDeadpool said:
If I root my Fire and Amazon decides to update again, it will **** it up and I will have to root it again? Every time my Fire gets and update?
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I have rooted mine and made some changes, but then I unroot it so I still have access to Amazon video on demand, etc. I root it again when I need to make updates. Only takes a few seconds. Unrooting doesn't undo the changes you make.

Wifi-only Motorola Xoom getting prepped for another 'project'

Hey, just read this on Android Central: an email has gone out to a few members of the Xoom section on the Motorola Owner's Forums talking of a new project.
Hi,
Thanks for joining the Motorola Feedback Network. We are preparing a project
for owners of the "Google Experience Device" version of the WiFi-only
Motorola Xoom. (This is the U.S. version only.) If you own this particular
model, we would like to invite you to participate.
Click this link to take a short enrollment survey for this project. Please
note that you must be a member in good standing of the Motorola Owners'
Forums to take part. We have recently moved our forums communities to a new
site, and YOU MUST RE-REGISTER to be considered a member. Please visit our
new site and complete your registration update if you have not done so
already. Be sure to fill out the MFN opt-in information on the new site.
This is a confidential project under the terms of the Motorola Feedback
Network. Do not post any details or information about this project on any
public sites.
Thanks -- please understand that project start times are always fluid. We ask
for your patience if you register but don't hear from us right away.
- Matt
Motorola Owners' Forums
Motorola Feedback Network
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Did anybody get a copy of the email? Does anybody know what's going on?
I first read it here.
Thank god some update
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Its certainly great that the Xoom is getting ICS. Kind of wish it was released back in November alongside the Nexus. The Xoom is a Google Experience Device, so I'm wondering why Moto/Goog didn't get this up and running sooner.
Hopefully the 3G/LTE version get the update very soon after!
I got the email this morning going to re-register when I get home
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dbam987 said:
Its certainly great that the Xoom is getting ICS. Kind of wish it was released back in November alongside the Nexus. The Xoom is a Google Experience Device, so I'm wondering why Moto/Goog didn't get this up and running sooner.
Hopefully the 3G/LTE version get the update very soon after!
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my guess, to merge in the camera and microphone drivers, the xoom 4.0.3 aosp was released what 2 weeks ago and they are already going to test this in a time where nobody does any work, the team eos rom was awesome and i think we should all be very very excited for our xooms that we paid so dearly for to finally work the way they were intended.
wild guess, 2 to 4 weeks before it's out for the 3g/4g lte xooms or at least i hope!
any update as to wat this is? So we all can return to stock and join if it's ICS
One4mNoWhere said:
any update as to wat this is? So we all can return to stock and join if it's ICS
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My guess is that if this is indeed ICS, then Motorola will release the much needed drivers for the camera and other things and the devs working on the ICS roms can just incorporate those into their builds and there will be no need for going back to stock.
OriginalMemnock said:
My guess is that if this is indeed ICS, then Motorola will release the much needed drivers for the camera and other things and the devs working on the ICS roms can just incorporate those into their builds and there will be no need for going back to stock.
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Plus, be careful that future updates don't somehow lock down the bootloader. Some may not care, but I won't ever willingly go back to stock.
okantomi said:
Plus, be careful that future updates don't somehow lock down the bootloader. Some may not care, but I won't ever willingly go back to stock.
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Google Experience devices are required to have an unlockable bootloader.
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for anyone with the link sign up link for the motorola feedback network or w/e its called. can you please paste or PM the sign up link. hoping to capitalize on the fact that I still haven't rooted.
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/d7c4a53130
Think you can sign up if you are not in the US?
rubber guard said:
for anyone with the link sign up link for the motorola feedback network or w/e its called. can you please paste or PM the sign up link. hoping to capitalize on the fact that I still haven't rooted.
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This is the direct link to the "survey" that signs you up straight out of the email that I got:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/NR5YG85
Requirements are mentioned above but for those that missed it:
U.S. WiFi "Google Experience" devices ONLY.
Must be a registered member "in good standing" at the new Motorola user forums.
To anyone that does get in, don't forget to break the terms and tell us all as soon as you know what its all about......lol
Not for UK users then hmm
So I'm guessing Canadian xoom owners don't get a shot at this? It's odd because our tablets and OS's are pretty much identical. Crazy why Canada gets shutout as it should be North American tablets.
PitbulI said:
So I'm guessing Canadian xoom owners don't get a shot at this? It's odd because our tablets and OS's are pretty much identical. Crazy why Canada gets shutout as it should be North American tablets.
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The OS isn't. That's why we got 3.2 ages after the US. Actually, did they ever release 3.2 for the Canadian Xoom? I wouldn't know as I reflashed with the US ROM when I got sick of waiting for 3.1.
The Canadian ROM has some US-only stuff removed such as Amazon MP3, and there were a few other differences too (3.0 had a whole different update checking module for instance).
Right now our best chance is for Team EOS to get their hand on it, be able to lift the missing binaries from it, and get us a 99% working ICS before Moto does (and probably months before Canadian owners gets an official ICS update as well).
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Not for UK users then hmm
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I did wonder if I could say I am on us wifi - but zip code might gve it away
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Wifi-only Motorola Xoom project survey link?
umbra6 said:
This is the direct link to the "survey" that signs you up straight out of the email that I got:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/NR5YG85
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Could someone please explain to me if this link is for real or a fake? Thanks in advance.
Yes, they released 3.2 for the Xoom last month from what I heard.
I returned my Galaxy Tab 10.1 to the store yesterday and picked up a Xoom. The performance is much better on the Xoom it looks like. I know the screen isn't as good but the performance seems much better.

[Q] Why do people expect ICS OTA to work on modified tablet?

The number of posts that I am seeing with "I modified my A500 and now the ICS update won't apply or my tablet won't boot" seem to be increasing.
How reasonable is it to expect that Acer should make assumptions about exactly what is on the tablet before running the OTA installation?
Surely, if you change any of the checksums on either the internal file systems or the boot loaders, then you are asking for the scripts to fail and for something to break...
Can you ever return a tablet that has been modified back to EXACTLY a factory default state?
Caveat Emptor...
Because there are a lot of incredibly stupid people out there, that's why.
Yep you are so right!
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zardoz99 said:
The number of posts that I am seeing with "I modified my A500 and now the ICS update won't apply or my tablet won't boot" seem to be increasing.
How reasonable is it to expect that Acer should make assumptions about exactly what is on the tablet before running the OTA installation?
Surely, if you change any of the checksums on either the internal file systems or the boot loaders, then you are asking for the scripts to fail and for something to break...
Can you ever return a tablet that has been modified back to EXACTLY a factory default state?
Caveat Emptor...
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Because 95% of people that, just for example, "root", don't know what they're doing. All they know is that it allows them to uninstall 'bloat', install tools they wouldn't normally be able to run without it, replace files and tamper with code and file content as advised by their peers to get this and that working 'better'. They follow directions to the T, use one click tools or get entire modified OSs and proceed to tinker and tamper with software they don't really understand. When the poop hits the fan, somehow the blame shifts off them completely to Acer and just about anyone else.
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Because 95% of people that, just for example, "root", don't know what they're doing. All they know is that it allows them to uninstall 'bloat', install tools they wouldn't normally be able to run without it, replace files and tamper with code and file content as advised by their peers to get this and that working 'better'. They follow directions to the T, use one click tools or get entire modified OSs and proceed to tinker and tamper with software they don't really understand. When the poop hits the fan, somehow the blame shifts off them completely to Acer and just about anyone else.
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I agree with you on most of that, but you gotta remember that we all started somewhere and the best way to learn is by getting right into it and tinkering, I do agree that most people don't understand what they're getting into and simply refuse to learn when someone tries to correct them.
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But you have to remember some of us did not even root our tabs let alone flash custom roms and yet can't get the update at all. So, what did we do wrong?
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Probably nothing. The lack of updates may be down to Acer setting which groups of serial numbers are next in line.
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zardoz99 said:
Probably nothing. The lack of updates may be down to Acer setting which groups of serial numbers are next in line.
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I sure hope so cos I'm getting frustrated each day the update refuses to arrive. To be honest, I think I'm done with Android tablets. Android tablets are meant for mods/hackers. OSs/tablets by Apple,RIM and Microsoft are meant for guys like me who don't want to tweak or install ROMs. When updates are released by these guys,owners of their devices definitely get them without all these hassles.
My next OS will be Windows 8. That OS I'm very familiar with
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zardoz99 said:
Probably nothing. The lack of updates may be down to Acer setting which groups of serial numbers are next in line.
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It was explained on Acer ANZ facebook page last year, cannot recall when, it was either with the release of 3.1 or 3.2, that the updates are done by the batch numbers set by google, not acer. the updates are hosted on futuredial so when it gets hammered it's not even acer servers to which i doubt they have any.
It seemes Acer has updated their Acer Update Enhancement app in the Google Play Store. It's supposed to help those who still haven't got the ICS update. Try it out and see if that helps?
You HAVE to update that app to get the OTA update.
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chaosking121 said:
It seemes Acer has updated their Acer Update Enhancement app in the Google Play Store. It's supposed to help those who still haven't got the ICS update. Try it out and see if that helps?
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Could you confirm the date the Enhancement app got updated? Cos mine seem to be up to date right now. And the date for the app in Google store says March 19th Thanks
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nasimdejai said:
Could you confirm the date the Enhancement app got updated? Cos mine seem to be up to date right now. Thanks
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Mine too - jeez now we gotta w8 for the update for the update to get the update?????
Yunno wot i dont care, if Civ is able to come up with fix's whats taking acer so dam long
I'm loathing bein back on honey, and I for one am going back to nirvana .
the way Civato and BT are pumping the goodies out - why bloody not???
IF someone can provide some really good reasons why bloody not,
......I'm all ears........
At first, i couldnt receive the ICS update neither, but after updating the acer app for updating, I was able to update official ICS
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Kindle Fire hdx Rom development??

Anybody know any rumors / talk of someone working on a stock android Rom for this?? Or kit Kat even... I'm definitely not interested in Fire OS in the least bit.
Thanks
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Bootloader is locked meaning no customs roms until then unless you go with the safe strap method and from what I seen people are having problems with memory and some crashing of the problems and if you have a 8.9 hdx safe strap is not supported but I have faith in this community and belive we will have roms in the future
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Really? Because there's already root tutorials in kindle fire hdx > android development.
Unless those are "safe strap"? Idk I didn't look into it too much because I don't have the kindle yet (got it for Xmas I'm pretty sure lol)
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So custom ROMs are totally possible, and I'm sure there will be one or two soon, but the issue as stated above is the bootloader is locked. This means no custom kernels which means no AOSP ROMs. This currently rules out Cyanogen, AOKP, Paranoid Android, everything like that. Everything will be Fire OS based until the bootloader is unlocked. Before yesterday there wasn't even working Play Store downloading. Progress is being made, and the bootloader could be unlocked in a couple weeks, or it may never happen. Until then you just got to stick with what we've got, which is pretty nice as far as I'm concerned. The hardware is quite nice, and with a custom launcher and Gapps Fire OS isn't terrible.
Thank you! Good to know
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Well, i have one based on stock almost ready With all amazon stuff removed and full google experience. I still have a few noob problems but i think it shoud be ready after christams.
Also note that any rom could be ported even CM thanks to safestrap. The kernel is not a problem. Im not sure i'll have the time to do so but if so i'll prove it
Merry Christmas !
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Cpasjuste said:
Well, i have one based on stock almost ready With all amazon stuff removed and full google experience.
I still have a few noob problems but i think it shoud be ready after christams.
Merry Christmas !
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Yay thank you!!! ?❤
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Yay thank you!!! ��❤
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THOR = Hdx 7"
Only working rootable versions are 14.3.1.0 for the 8.9" && 13.3.1.0 for Thor
Kindle Fire HDX 8.9" Rooting tut
Kindle Fire HDX 7" Rooting tut
Hashcode's modified TWRP safestrap ONLY FOR Thor
Working Google Play ROM ONLY FOR Thor
Hope this points you in the right direction. Just search the threads.
Anyone know if it's hard / going to take a long time to unlock bootloader?
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May never happen
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murso74 said:
May never happen
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Is there a reason for that?
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floodingaugust said:
Is there a reason for that?
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One reason is Amazon security on the chips they use.
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Is there a reason for that?
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these companies are getting better at locking them, and there is less and less incentive for people to break them. look at the bounty thread.. only 145 bucks. i have a Moto X which is over 1000 dollars and that still hasn't gotten cracked. i wouldn't hold on to the kindle hoping it will get cracked... if i didn't have amazon instant i would probably send this thing back (i may anyway, as i'm having wifi issues)
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these companies are getting better at locking them, and there is less and less incentive for people to break them. look at the bounty thread.. only 145 bucks. i have a Moto X which is over 1000 dollars and that still hasn't gotten cracked. i wouldn't hold on to the kindle hoping it will get cracked... if i didn't have amazon instant i would probably send this thing back (i may anyway, as i'm having wifi issues)
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Even if the boot loader didn't get unlocked working google play and a custom loader or exposed is all you really need and all are somewhat working now. I have almost every tablet ever made in this household. Nearly all have boot loaders either bypassed or broken. Already the 7 inch boot loader has been bypassed on this, a new device. The truth is the more popular a device is the quicker it is modded. If sales are high on this device it is likely to get dev attention. Try not to be such a Debbie downer
conan1600 said:
Even if the boot loader didn't get unlocked working google play and a custom loader or exposed is all you really need and all are somewhat working now. I have almost every tablet ever made in this household. Nearly all have boot loaders either bypassed or broken. Already the 7 inch boot loader has been bypassed on this, a new device. The truth is the more popular a device is the quicker it is modded. If sales are high on this device it is likely to get dev attention. Try not to be such a Debbie downer
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Exactly, thank you!
I have been around Android since the beginning and have to say that out of all devices I have seen or bought.... this one has the least amount of bloat and is one of the best...
Quad core running 2.2ghz, 2gb ram??? nothing I have thrown at it has lagged or been slow!
Best tablet out right now, fast, portable, good battery life and did I mention it is easy on your wallet too? lol
RandumAccess said:
Exactly, thank you!
I have been around Android since the beginning and have to say that out of all devices I have seen or bought.... this one has the least amount of bloat and is one of the best...
Quad core running 2.2ghz, 2gb ram??? nothing I have thrown at it has lagged or been slow!
Best tablet out right now, fast, portable, good battery life and did I mention it is easy on your wallet too? lol
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Recon that! If only we could have working widgets and some fully working alternative launcher .. Play store doesn't bother me that much, since I get all the apps either from an alternative store or I download them on my phone and sent them to the tablet, so no big deal till now.
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conan1600 said:
Even if the boot loader didn't get unlocked working google play and a custom loader or exposed is all you really need and all are somewhat working now. I have almost every tablet ever made in this household. Nearly all have boot loaders either bypassed or broken. Already the 7 inch boot loader has been bypassed on this, a new device. The truth is the more popular a device is the quicker it is modded. If sales are high on this device it is likely to get dev attention. Try not to be such a Debbie downer
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Well the device was a gift I can't just bring it back.
Basically Amazon banned me for some dumb ass reason literally like my neighbor got in trouble so now I can't use it. and when I try to buy **** on the kindle I can't use that store either so I am praying that there is some type of movement on the boot loader because otherwise this going to be one expensive paper weight.
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floodingaugust said:
Well the device was a gift I can't just bring it back.
Basically Amazon banned me for some dumb ass reason literally like my neighbor got in trouble so now I can't use it. and when I try to buy **** on the kindle I can't use that store either so I am praying that there is some type of movement on the boot loader because otherwise this going to be one expensive paper weight.
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I'm not sure you are following. 1mobile market and or side loaded apk's along with a custom loader bypasses all of what you just said right now. Also, in the last few days, the play store has even been made to download on both the 7 inch and 8.9. In other words go to the general section and read, root, and install working play store on kindle and then use apex and wallpaper fix with widgets and you basically have a Google tablet with an Amazon options bar. As people get exposed framework going it will get even better than that. Boot loader crack is not necessary to make this a Google tablet. As for pure Google well that would be great for some, or cm 10.3 for others but in the end all of that is really just ui and a few options. The necessities of downloading from Google market and some customization can all be accomplished right this second. I have very few apps from Amazon on my tablet in fact. Most are Google market apps. As the bright boys spend more time with this tablet it will become even easier for the less experienced users to accomplish these things as well.
conan1600 said:
I'm not sure you are following. 1mobile market and or side loaded apk's along with a custom loader bypasses all of what you just said right now. Also, in the last few days, the play store has even been made to download on both the 7 inch and 8.9. In other words go to the general section and read, root, and install working play store on kindle and then use apex and wallpaper fix with widgets and you basically have a Google tablet with an Amazon options bar. As people get exposed framework going it will get even better than that. Boot loader crack is not necessary to make this a Google tablet. As for pure Google well that would be great for some, or cm 10.3 for others but in the end all of that is really just ui and a few options. The necessities of downloading from Google market and some customization can all be accomplished right this second. I have very few apps from Amazon on my tablet in fact. Most are Google market apps. As the bright boys spend more time with this tablet it will become even easier for the less experienced users to accomplish these things as well.
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Really? So is the carousel thing on your kindle is gone? Just the top bar? Sweet.
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floodingaugust said:
Well the device was a gift I can't just bring it back.
Basically Amazon banned me for some dumb ass reason literally like my neighbor got in trouble so now I can't use it. and when I try to buy **** on the kindle I can't use that store either so I am praying that there is some type of movement on the boot loader because otherwise this going to be one expensive paper weight.
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How in the hell does one get banned from amazon?!?

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