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Hey i have a question like when is the win 8 arm gonna come im tired of waiting already or is it possible to run any other microsoft os on acer iconia tab a500, or can you run win xp with qemu or something like that please help me really need it. thanks for all
aivashc said:
Hey i have a question like when is the win 8 arm gonna come im tired of waiting already or is it possible to run any other microsoft os on acer iconia tab a500, or can you run win xp with qemu or something like that please help me really need it. thanks for all
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Nobody really knows when or.. now IF it will come.
Microsoft seems to be hitting issues with and there is not much news in this lately. Somewhere i read is to not expect it until mid 2013 if ever..
NO as far as running any windows os on the iconia. What ever qemu is. if thats a emulator i never seen one to work correctly..so its unlikely and if so would be very slow and buggy..
Sell your A 500.. GET A W500.. i have considered trying to trade mine..
ANYONE INTERESTED .
You can use an app like Splashtop to mirror what your home PC is doing. It will look like it's running Windows...
You can use some Win 8 wallpaper and replicate a Metro look
You can even change the Force Close message to "This program has ended unexpectedly...." AKA Exception Error, AKA General Protection Fault.
ive had this conversation so many times its not even funny.
Mainly, forget about it.
Chances are virtually nonexistant you'll be able to buy windows 8 ARM. Even if there was a way to legally port it, which there isn't, it'd still require a whole new set of drivers (which would be incredibly hard to create) and a proprietary, closed source pre-boot environmentwhich would need to bbe illegally modified to make the os run.
Its pretty much impossible without Microsoft helping, which you know they won't do.
And I also feel it nessarry to point out that you won't be able to run windows x86 programs on windows 8 arm, making it a largely useless platform - you only have access to metro apps, and/or windows phone 7 apps. Stay with android, you'll thank me later.
Android rom on windows hardware . CAN I PLEASE..
Can i install the update .zip .. rom from my tablet to my Windows 7 AMD FUSION Cpu notebook..
can i can i can iiiii can i please....
Windows 8 requirements to battle fragmentation:
http://uk.appy-geek.com/Web/ArticleWeb3.aspx?regionid=4&articleid=1911699
Tegra 2 can run Windows 8 !
http://blogs.nvidia.com/2011/01/tegra-2-cameos-at-ballmer-ces-keynote-with-windows-on-arm-demo/
@akram_1 - Your 2nd link refers to the Jan 2011, presentation at CES where MS talked about running Win 8 on a Tegra 2 Tablet but it got no further and as Erica Renee said in post above yours, the whole idea of that setup bit the dust during 2011 when MS decided to quietly back away from the idea.
In Jan 2012 again at CES, MS Windows Chief Marketing Officer demonstrated Win 8 on ARM but this was on a special one off unit using the Tegra 3 chip and Metro.
So please don't hold your breath waiting for Win 8 on ARM running on the A500 otherwise you'll end up in the Guiness Book of Records as the "A500 owner with the bluest face and least detectable pulse rate".
Windows 8 on ARM? Absolutely
Windows 8 on the A500? Highly unlikely
Apparently there will be Windows 8 tablets coming out by the holiday shopping season. If any device will be able to natively run either Android or Windows (or even both in a dual-boot environment), it would most likely be on a device designed and marketed for Windows. In fact, now that I think about it, Android 5 (Jellybean?) will be expected around the same time. Seeing how Android has matured over the last few years, I expect this next version to blow us away. With any hopeful wishing, some tablet manufacturers may release the same hardware built to run both Windows and Android and sell them side-by-side. For example, a hypothetical Acer A900 and W900 would be exactly the same hardware, only difference being the OS, in which case they might just name such a tablet the T900A and T900W. Of course, this is just speculation. Also, I'm expecting a lot of these next-gen tablets to copy the design of the Transformer and Transformer Prime. These tablets will ship with a dock, and the UI will change according to how it's being used. In tablet mode, it will be in the Metro UI, then switch to a more familiar Windows UI when docked. If the hardware is being used interchangeably between Windows and Android, maybe Jellybean will feature different UI's based on which mode is being used. Take Cornerstone for example. Speculation once again, but this is what I'd like to see.
But yeah, as far as Windows on the A500... keep dreaming
Better luch if MS makes a tablet with a arm processor and some no decides to port it. Then you would have wp7 or whatever version they call it. I think right now that is the best you could hope for.
I agree with the above for the most part. I do belive Microsoft under estimated the efforts they would need to put into getting windows to run On arm.When and well If They do get a releasable product
(1) It will surely have one of the 3 fallowing problems . It will maybe run windows LIKE!!! programs And suck battery life.(BAD BAD AND A FAIL)
(2) It will Run windows Program like But be so Huge because of the extra batteries it will be to heavy to be useable.(Like the Current win 7 tabs.To big or no battery life.) This to would BE A BIG FAT FAIL.
(3) It will be a extension of the win phone operating system. The one that people complain about and toss and run back to android. Closed SOURCE very little development for it. Few but expensive apps.. WELL NOTHING MORE TO SAY BUT..
THIS TO IS A Near FAIL . They are huge and bulky or die Quickly..
I have 3 friends that have them. and pack charger and spair battery with them all the time..
The above are what i have been reading all over the web in one form or another..I also think there is something going on in the background behind peoples back.. I THINK LOCKING Devices to the installed OS will eventually be a non flash-able rom chip. with a secondary rom to incorporate updates and fixes to the first.. This would make devices obsolete much Quicker. Its becoming harder and harder for developers to break the boot loaders on these devices.
THE BOOT LOADER and its magic .. i feel is the reason acer has not release ICS. AND I BELIEVE THEY WILL NOT UNTIL THE FIX THIS
Just my Opinion. from what i have read over the last few months . There should be a international Protest NOt TO ACER OR ASUS or samsung .. BUT TO THE WORLD MANUFACTURERS. To get a law to disallow them to lock down NON CONTRACT DEVICES....
do you think Windows 8 RT (ARM) could ever be ported successfully to the transformer, or even the prime or some other tablet?
i know it's not open source and that makes a HUUGE difference. so, what are the chances?
obviously it's a bit early to tell for sure, but how likely do you think?
I doubt it since it gonna come preinstalled with hardware.
http://www.techspot.com/news/48217-windows-8-editions-revealed-two-retail-one-for-arm-one-for-enterprise.html
Even if you were able to copy it to another tablet you would not be able to update it. At least legally.
Our only hope is that ms would sell it alone.
Im wondering how restricted it will be because if it runs like standard windows someone using it on a tablet could run a backup and push out an image that people on android could use.
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I very much doubt it as the WinRT code won't be open sourced so it would have to be one hell of a reverse engineering job to get it ported.
It would be like trying to get iOS ported to our TFs
I just hope splashtop or some other RDP software will have the ability to automaticly turn on all touch-features in win8 when you connect from your tablet.
Would make it a hell a lot easier to remote control your PC without keyboard and mouse.
If someone can figure out how to dump it then it is possible.
This is going back a few years & obviously Win8 whole different animal from WM6.5. I remember when it was announced that the beloved Dell Axim x51 was not going to be updated to WM6.5. Some of the devs did figure out how to make it happen. Going that route you do run into a whole host of legal issues.
In not sure why you would want to downgrade?
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Possible, but what's the point? Windows 8 RT isn't proper Windows, it's not get any apps, and has that horrible Metro user interface.
I love the metro interface. It is just so simple and smart. I would also love to use Windows 8 with a touchscreen to enable all the touch features.
Also, I think of it this way... As some person said on this thread, it is not actually Windows 8, cause you cant get out of metro. And it is a really big issue. But I mean, it is like installing Linux on your TF. You would just install it, check it out for a little while, and then switch back for android. I wouldn't actually use Linux on the Transformer. On Linux you wouldn't actually use Word or Excel on your TF. And if you had windows, same thing... you probably wouldn't use Photoshop or After Effects because you just don't need to. If you are on a mobile device, obviously the OS has to be limited only on the features that are useful on a mobile device. Photoshop would burn your TF most probably, so I don't really see the use of using the classic Windows desktop with a Transformer.
P.S. The Metro UI freaking ROCKS!
I'm going to counter and say I can't stand metro ui. At all. If I got win8 (In love with 7 atm) I'd instantly switch to desktop mode and never look at metro again.
I really hope they release a generic arm version, I want windows on my tab. It'd allow me to do so much graphically and musically, but for now,
Ubuntu xD
Windows 8 has high hardware requirement, atleast prime is needed I think for it to work
B60 TF101 16gb WW version. Never rooted.
Well, you can overclock the TF a considerable bit, my worry would be RAM usage, since Windows is a RAM hog. It's supposed to have lower Reqs than Windows 7, though.
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Well, you can overclock the TF a considerable bit, my worry would be RAM usage, since Windows is a RAM hog. It's supposed to have lower Reqs than Windows 7, though.
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the ram for this device is too low even for modified android and for browsing sites and watching flash video.
is ram not like the cheapest component?
B60 TF101 16gb WW version. Never rooted.
I made a post in another thread stating why I think it's not going to happen.
mjlim said:
I don't anticipate it being possible to run Win8 on the tf101.
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It's unlikely that Windows 8 ARM will be available except preinstalled on devices; unlike PCs, the installation would be different for and specific to each device. So if we assume that is the case;
Windows 8 will probably come on a device with only the drivers necessary for that specific device. You could cite space constraints on that. Why would drivers for any other device be included?
Secondly, building a kernel specifically for the transformer is not going to happen. Why? The Windows kernel is not open source. obviously current kernels we have won't help, because they are Linux.
That last point is probably the biggest reason why we won't see it happening. Not having the source severely limits what can be done.
I wouldn't get my hopes up for this.
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Windows 8 on ARM is more about breaking away from the limitations Intel has in the mobile space. It has nothing to do with compatibility. Microsoft doesn't want to lose any more licenses of Windows to Apple with the iPad (MS makes more money on every Android phone than on Windows Phone).
ARM won't run the desktop. No one cares about Windows if they can't run their old apps. It's DOA.
Windows 8 is gonna flop bigger than all the other Microsoft failures like Xbox and kinect
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"never say never"
look at the HTC HD2, a device that was shipped with WinMo 6.1, now it can run Windows Phone 7.5, Android (ICS included), Ubuntu, booting from NAND (with 2 different boot loaders written from scratch), with nearly full hardware support for everything.
When Asus releases WinRT tablets, they will reuse some of the hardware they use in Android tablets, so they will have the correct code compiled, and hackers will backport it to other tablets...
CrazyPeter said:
Windows 8 is gonna flop bigger than all the other Microsoft failures like Xbox and kinect
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uhm wtf? xbox best selling game console worldwide? about 20 million kinects sold?
anyway... for win 8 I say we'll see and we'll know then.
CrazyPeter said:
Windows 8 is gonna flop bigger than all the other Microsoft failures like Xbox and kinect
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Go back to doing what ever you were doing on your Mac or ipad!
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Go back to doing what ever you were doing on your Mac or ipad!
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Comon man we all know microsoft copied ipads angry birds when made xbox360!!
B60 TF101 16gb WW version. Never rooted.
Is it possible? I'd like to have it on my galaxy tab 7.7
I'm sure it would be possible.. For Microsoft.
Windows is a closed source operating system, meaning there can never be a direct port to your device. The closest someone could do is perhaps a bootloader that would allow it to run but you would still have other problems like drivers.
Not to mention the required boot security features that Windows 8 is rumored to have on the ARM version.
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Remember Microsoft said that windows 7 would not ever have a successful license hack. that happened and quite quickly at that. Give it time and the devs, specifically the black hatters, will get the security opened and then we'll have some very interesting ports.
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Awesome!
Eun-Hjzjined said:
Remember Microsoft said that windows 7 would not ever have a successful license hack. that happened and quite quickly at that. Give it time and the devs, specifically the black hatters, will get the security opened and then we'll have some very interesting ports.
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I understand that but a license hack is a whole different monster. This is taking an operating system that theoretically doesn't support the OP's device and making it work. Even if it can be made to boot, we'd still need input drivers, display drivers for it's GPU, etc.
Maybe possible if the ARM version uses a WinCE style BSP, but that's speculation I suppose.
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I suppose that they will use something similar to what they use on wp7 devices. And in that case we could see derivatives of those drivers running under arm-win8
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your biggest problem is drivers, assuming you get around the security and get it installed, you will need drivers, and traditionally, OEM built devices don't always have openly available drivers to every platform Esp, ARM devices
you would need to hope that Win RT uses some of the same hardware on its own devices, enabling us to take the drivers from those devices and install them on your own ex android device.
and given that Win RT isn't a user installable OS your looking at having to build images with the drivers available, flash it, and hope that it works!
to be honest, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Well, that is how WinCE/Embedded works and look how well it can be "ported" (if that can be said as the right word for this.) around.
A small hypothetical situation:
Someone hacks out drivers for the Galaxy Tab's components and just happens to release a version compatible with WinRT-ARM, That's fine. Someone with the WinRT Platform Builder creates an image targeting the Galaxy Tab, even better. But the problem would be getting the Galaxy Tab to actually boot something that isn't recognized by the device's inbuilt bootloader (Theoretically this could be bypassed like the Android phones that can dual-boot WM7). Only then, after you get a bootloader to actually bootstrap and start the image created will you be able to run "Windows 8 for ARM" on a Galaxy Tab.
The above situation is the only, only possible way you'd be able to get it to work.
Also, It seems even then it wouldn't work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466400&page=2
opps screwed up
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IHATEHIPSTERS said:
Is it possible? I'd like to have it on my galaxy tab 7.7
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Rumor is WOA (windows on arm) will require efi (locked boot loader).
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i am also a 7.7 user. very disappointed with honeycomb's performance so far i would love to see win8 here
what about missing windows button? it is very necessary in metro
Use custom lancher with moded windos 8
IF I HELPED PRESS THE THANKS BUTOM OR DONATE ME IN ORDER TO BUY A NEW PHONE AND CONTINUE THE DEV.
Pator57 said:
Use custom lancher with moded windos 8
IF I HELPED PRESS THE THANKS BUTOM OR DONATE ME IN ORDER TO BUY A NEW PHONE AND CONTINUE THE DEV.
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The OP wants to install Windows 8 on his tablet, not a custom launcher. Although if you want the metro experience, a Launcher like Launcher7 or such would probably be the best choice.
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Rumor is WOA (windows on arm) will require efi (locked boot loader).
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Microsoft stopped calling it WOA a while back, they now call it WinRT.
And EFI (or UEFI to be precise) doesn't imply boot signature checking, rather it is a next generation bootstrap that replaces the long dated PC BIOS with many improvements. My current PC does an EFI boot, and there is no signature checking involved.
Rather, in order to have signature checking, EFI is a requirement. (Signature checking is also a requirement to run the x86 version of Windows 8 OEM channel license, by the way.)
But that is only one among many problems (and not the hardest one, BTW) that will prevent you from running WinRT on non Microsoft approved ARM systems. The biggest problem will be creating a driver set that is compatible with the hardware.
It's going to be hard to find developers who will take on such a project since not only is it a huge time investment, but it's liable to get you sued by Microsoft.
Anything can be hacked given time and patience, but Win RT will be a tough nut to crack. You will have to have to find an exploit to unlock/replace the bootloader and likely write custom firmware. Given what a b!#@h the Lumia 900 has been to unlock, it may be a long time.
The good news is that Windows 8 (at least full Win 8) is moving to a class driver model which makes the likelihood of cross device compatibility much more likely than in the past. Base drivers could very well be standard across the respective ARM families and OEMs are likely to reprovision standard chassis designs for both Windows RT and ICS (much like WP7, a la Samsung Galaxy and Focus).
There are still too many questions to accurately guess, but we'll know more soon.
is just an idea, but is that possible?but some windows may be installed, or some linux??
I know there is a Ubuntu port out there so far but the last time I checked, it was still very buggy.
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hopefully in the near future can be made!!??
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Dear cubano2031:
Hi,
Acer Iconia Tab A500 specification suggests the compatible operating system as Android Honeycomb.
However according to the hardware specifications, it seems that you can install Windows 8 Consumer Preview in this tablet.
cubano2031 said:
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Dear cubano2031:
Hi,
Acer Iconia Tab A500 specification suggests the compatible operating system as Android Honeycomb.
However according to the hardware specifications, it seems that you can install Windows 8 Consumer Preview in this tablet.
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Check my dulbooting thread im assuming he probably meant the arm version but judging on how useless xp was i dont foresee windows 8 being useful :/ although most of the lag is created from the actual app emulation but stil unless someone wants to create a compatiblle recovery.img (you could utelise fastboot) kernel bootloader drivers etc then i dont think it has a chance
I really don't see Windows 8 coming the Iconia due to the type of processor that we have. The Tegra doesn't have any windows drivers as far as I know...... There is more of a chance of us seeing Mac running on our tablet . Due to the fact that it has a Unix base
gears177 said:
Check my dulbooting thread im assuming he probably meant the arm version but judging on how useless xp was i dont foresee windows 8 being useful :/ although most of the lag is created from the actual app emulation but stil unless someone wants to create a compatiblle recovery.img (you could utelise fastboot) kernel bootloader drivers etc then i dont think it has a chance
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calebcoverdale said:
I really don't see Windows 8 coming the Iconia due to the type of processor that we have. The Tegra doesn't have any windows drivers as far as I know...... There is more of a chance of us seeing Mac running on our tablet . Due to the fact that it has a Unix base
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i dont either maybe if were extremely lucky a stripped down mini version of iit but even thats wishfule thinking
Windows 8/RT will NEVER be installable on the A500.
Ever.
End of.
never say never
FloatingFatMan said:
Windows 8/RT will NEVER be installable on the A500.
Ever.
End of.
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It's been my experience if someone is determined enough anything is possible. In fact you may just have ignited a fire and determination in someone just to prove you wrong. Let's hope so!
I'm not going to be the one to do it, but I too think this is all but impossible... After all, there's an ARM build, so all that's really missing are drivers. The WiFi/Bluetooth chipset is prety widespread, so this one ought to work. There aren't too many manufacturers of touchscreen devices, so this one ought to work, too, and for audio the situation is much the same. MMC chipsets are mostly broadcom anyway (a500 too, I guess) so there's another component that most likely will work. Also, USB will work as it's well specified and used for a lot of stuff internally by most devices... The only major issues could be with the graphics card, as I don't think Win8 likes VESA mode too much... Also, I wouldn't epect A501 UMTS to work. While graphics support may be a fair amount of work, it certainly seems possible... and UMTS isn't all that important after all (it's unlikely to work without direct manufacturer support as baseband protocols are a nightmare to work with).
haag498 said:
I'm not going to be the one to do it, but I too think this is all but impossible... After all, there's an ARM build, so all that's really missing are drivers. The WiFi/Bluetooth chipset is prety widespread, so this one ought to work. There aren't too many manufacturers of touchscreen devices, so this one ought to work, too, and for audio the situation is much the same. MMC chipsets are mostly broadcom anyway (a500 too, I guess) so there's another component that most likely will work. Also, USB will work as it's well specified and used for a lot of stuff internally by most devices... The only major issues could be with the graphics card, as I don't think Win8 likes VESA mode too much... Also, I wouldn't epect A501 UMTS to work. While graphics support may be a fair amount of work, it certainly seems possible... and UMTS isn't all that important after all (it's unlikely to work without direct manufacturer support as baseband protocols are a nightmare to work with).
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But you need to take into consideration that this is a totally new system. It will probably come only with the drivers for hardware approved by MS (like with Windows Phone). So unless some other Win8 tablets are going to use exactly same hardware parts with same configuration we wouldn't have anywhere to get those drivers from. We don't even know if Win8 would support Tegra2 instruction set which may be missing some instruction sets available in newer processors.
Remember who you are dealing with.... Microsoft.
Remember who is pushing out Surface Tabs.. (sometime in the next decade).... Microsoft.
And I will guess, the hardware drivers will be extremely closed source. And the tabs will probably run on different hardware than the current tabs.
A tech can say "well, your tablet certainly has the hardware to run it". Don't mean diddly squat unless it's the same hardware they support. And I would guess, MS ain't gonna support Android tabs. Just like iOS.
And look who they partnered with..... Nokia. The last of the dumbphone manufacturers, who are just about to go under if android phones get any cheaper. Sorta says how "this" story is gonna pan out. "Too little.... Too late"
Windows8 touch on an A500? Ain't gonna happen. They already have a W500 (which nobody wants).
RIP Win8...... Stick with PC's.
MD
Actually, the main issue why it won't run is less to do with the hardware drivers than you might think.
The main cause is down to the bootloader and the interaction between it and the OS. Even if you managed to get RT somehow on to an A500, you'll never get it to boot. It would be easier to write your OS from scratch.
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Actually, the main issue why it won't run is less to do with the hardware drivers than you might think.
The main cause is down to the bootloader and the interaction between it and the OS. Even if you managed to get RT somehow on to an A500, you'll never get it to boot. It would be easier to write your OS from scratch.
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I would rather think the oposite as it should be definitelly easier for a hacker/cracker to remove requirement for specific bootloader (e.g. encrypted one as MS requires from hardware makers) than to fetch working drivers.
That way or another there are just too many problems to overcome to make it work.
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I would rather think the oposite as it should be definitelly easier for a hacker/cracker to remove requirement for specific bootloader (e.g. encrypted one as MS requires from hardware makers) than to fetch working drivers.
That way or another there are just too many problems to overcome to make it work.
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Unfortu'ently the algorithm used to crack it wouldnt expire in my life time completely useless it would still be sweet though hmmm....
Don't android tablets run on ARM architecture? Thats incompatible with Windows right there.
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Microsoft has said that they will not be selling the Win8RT OS seperately and that the only way to get it is pre-installed on a tablet. Because of that, and that the A500 doesn't meet the resolution, multi-touch, or have appropraite drivers, the only way to get Win8RT on the A500 is through hacking of the OS.
So it can be done, but it isn't going to be easy, nor would it be legal due to the licencing issues (you can't buy the winRT os without a tab).
For everybody that wants Windows on their tab....
http://market.yandex.ru/model.xml?modelid=7268033&hid=6427100
Much easier... and they have tons of them left for a reason....... :laugh:
MD
The W500 doesn't really even factor into this equation. It's Win7. Windows 8 was specifically designed to be tablet-friendly. Windows 7 on a touch device is... problematic at best.
Better to look at what Acer ~IS~ doing in the Win8 arena:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/03/acer-iconia-w700-w510-windows-8/
But the real problem is Microsoft mandating what will and will not be allowed to run Windows 8 RT. Their secure boot garbage and requirements for locked bootloaders on RT will be a huge issue. Aside from the aforementioned issues with device drivers, which will be a HUGE issue, Microsoft is doing all it can to block just anyone from installing the final release on unsupported devices.
Of course, with enough time and people, all this can be bypassed and someone, somewhere will make it happen, but the question will be... Will it be worth the effort? We have a great tablet that runs great on ICS and JB. Why mess with a good thing? Windows 8 RT is a gimped version of Windows that's made for phones. The full Windows 8 is a resource-hog that will clog an a500 and bring it to a standstill. I just don't see a need for this.
Hi guys
with a google search I found the file. cab with the driver (Tegra2) for windows 8.
If you want I can upload it online
This week, Microsoft will unveil Windows 8 RT on their Surface while other vendors will roll their tablets with it.
Since none of us has Windows 8 RT tablet yet and no one has started tinkering inside those tablets (hardware & software in the tablet), I was wondering about something:
Basically if we take a TF300 tablet and compare it to Asus's other Windows 8 RT tablets, they are exactly the same in terms of hardware. Tegra 3, Nand flash, etc. In terms of storage, I'm sure Microsoft doesn't use ext2/3/4 partitions, they probably use their own NTFS or Fat32 or whatever.
In terms if booting the device, Android tablets (which are based on Tegra 3 at least) use whatever nVidia gives them to boot the system, recovery, APX etc. In the Windows tablets they use UEFI with secure boot.
My question: based on public info which we know, how hard would it be to make Windows 8 run on TF300? how hard would it be to install UEFI on the TF300? (IIRC it's not a special chip, it's just a piece of software in the firmware, and as androidroot.mobi showed - you can write on the firmware whatever you want).
Opinions?
wrong section, and even if it wasnt, thats pirating windows
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hetzbh said:
My question: based on public info which we know, how hard would it be to make Windows 8 run on TF300? how hard would it be to install UEFI on the TF300? (IIRC it's not a special chip, it's just a piece of software in the firmware, and as androidroot.mobi showed - you can write on the firmware whatever you want).
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windows rt is sold only preinstalled, you cant buy it separatedly, you cant install it on something else than the tablet it came with.
and obviously you cant get the sources to thinker with.
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wrong section, and even if it wasnt, thats pirating windows
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Your reply doesn't make sense. What excatly do you mean by pirating windows? If you're talking about hacking, then isn't that what we all do?
PS. It's just like sex, its always better if its free.
pretty sure you don't pay for windows RT
I could be wrong though...
Plus, I don't quite know for sure how an android tablet would be compatible with the windows RT, I am sure there are some stupid things they added to make it so it wouldn't work out. It always seems to be out of our favor.
babymatteo said:
Your reply doesn't make sense. What excatly do you mean by pirating windows? If you're talking about hacking, then isn't that what we all do?
PS. It's just like sex, its always better if its free.
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as you cant buy it, the only way you can get it is by pirating it from another tablet.
read the forum rules, warez is not accepted on this forum.
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Your reply doesn't make sense. What excatly do you mean by pirating windows? If you're talking about hacking, then isn't that what we all do?
PS. It's just like sex, its always better if its free.
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difference is that android is open source and the source code is shared in order to facilitate user development
windows and apple are closed source, and not allowed to pirate
Comon guys, don't be such a moderator wannabe ... the guy is just wondering if it's possible to port W8 RT to a TF300. He is not talking of asking about how to hack a W* RT device.
For example, if you bought yourself a W8 RT tablet and you want to try to extract the software and load it in into your OWN TF300 for personal use ... i can't see the real problem here.
Renzo4000 said:
Comon guys, don't be such a moderator wannabe ... the guy is just wondering if it's possible to port W8 RT to a TF300. He is not talking of asking about how to hack a W* RT device.
For example, if you bought yourself a W8 RT tablet and you want to try to extract the software and load it in into your OWN TF300 for personal use ... i can't see the real problem here.
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and, as we said, the answer is no, you cant, as microsoft wont sell you a copy.
Forget the sake of this discussion, forget about piracy. On many countries it's totally legit to grab a software from one of your machines and put it on another, as long as you purchased the software and as long as you don't give it to anyone else. For example: Microsoft allows you to install office with a single license on 2 or more computers, as long as only one of them is running the software at the same time.
How do you think all those emulators has began being developed? people started to talk if it's possible to run X application on Y platform, and if not, why?
Thats why I opened this thread - theory speaking, nothing more.
hetzbh said:
Forget the sake of this discussion, forget about piracy. On many countries it's totally legit to grab a software from one of your machines and put it on another, as long as you purchased the software and as long as you don't give it to anyone else. For example: Microsoft allows you to install office with a single license on 2 or more computers, as long as only one of them is running the software at the same time.
How do you think all those emulators has began being developed? people started to talk if it's possible to run X application on Y platform, and if not, why?
Thats why I opened this thread - theory speaking, nothing more.
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You have to be patient eventually it might be done. If i can run apples osx on my hp touch smart why wouldnt this be possible. but honestly id rather just buy the surface. if it is really a pc in tablet skin. Cuz honestly. I hate mobole browsers and all that crap. . Inever play games on my tablet only my son. All i do is watch movies and surf online. .sell tf300 buy surface.
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Like I see it you'd need root or sth. on a Surface or other Win8 Pad, get the system of it with kernel etc., make it compatible with Tf300 and its bootloader and then get the wright wifi drivers etc. compatible - seems like a long work, but as I know from other portings not impossible!
I am sure some very clever people will give it a go sometime soon.
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diamantericos said:
You have to be patient eventually it might be done. If i can run apples osx on my hp touch smart why wouldnt this be possible. but honestly id rather just buy the surface. if it is really a pc in tablet skin. Cuz honestly. I hate mobole browsers and all that crap. . Inever play games on my tablet only my son. All i do is watch movies and surf online. .sell tf300 buy surface.
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No Windows RT is a dumbed down version of Windows 8 with just the modern UI and a so called "desktop" for certain apps and it will not run any legacy windows applications. The RT version in my opinion is useless at least for the time being, because it need devs to make good content just like iOS and Android and that will take a few years. Just 2-3 years ago android was playing catch up to iOS, Windows RT will be the same.
The Intel based Surface i see great potentials for and that will be revolutionary to actually have the "PC in a tablet skin". With that one can run all software you have on a computer plus the great apps developers will make.
If you are thinking the Windows RT Surface will be any different then a Android tablet you are mistaken, sure there are few differences it will still use "apps" just like any other Android tablet and you won't be able to run and Windows games on it if that is what your thinking. What you want is the Intel based Surface.
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You never know, devs have ported Android to Windows Mobile phones so there maybe a way to get Window on the TF300. If a Dev has his/her mind set anything can be done.
I would like to just point out that the windows 8 forum is titled windows 8 development and hacking.... This is basically the definition of what we do.
In my opinion, windows 8 RT is free with the hardware that you purchase, seeing as you cannot buy the software, instead it is given to you. I see nothing wrong with trying to get windows 8 RT on our tablets. It's not like Microsoft could possibly be pissed off with other people practically advertising their sh*t, because you know as soon as they get it working, they're gonna tell all their buddies who are gonna want a windows 8 tablet, and if they can't do the porting, they'll probably go for a windows 8 tablet.... like possibly the slate.
My 2 cents have been given.
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burt_ie said:
I am sure some very clever people will give it a go sometime soon.
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it would appear it's been done! youtube.com/watch?v=Q0uWypmOIgs
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it would appear it's been done! youtube.com/watch?v=Q0uWypmOIgs
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Looks like a fake to me.....running splashtop?. you can clearly see the android notification bar towards the end of the video.
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Yup definitely running splashtop, you can also see the small keyboard button in the lower right hand corner.
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You can see the Android Taskbar... so remote desktop.
But also, what will be the purpose of installing Windows 8 RT on and Android device?
We wanted a different platform...
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Yup definitely running splashtop, you can also see the small keyboard button in the lower right hand corner.
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This thread should be closed and buried deep, so that no one will ever find this abomination. Let us never speak again of porting Microsoft's squared horror to the TF300T.
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