Deciding between a lenovo k1 vs acer iconia a100? - Thinkpad Tablet General

Hey guys, so what do you think, which it the two is a better device?
Specs are almost similar with acer being 7" vs lenovo 10". Same processor, gpu and other hardware.
Better io options on acer iconia specially the USB and nini USB.
Screen better on Lenovo.
I am still confused on the scalibility, developer support and future proof ics on the chosen device.
Thanks!
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Anyone? Need to order one of the two today!
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I can't speak about the A100, as I have only owned an A500. It was a very good product, beautiful screen, many ports, good sound, etc. But I returned it and bought the ThinkPad, because I have owned many of those laptops, and they were always the best.
The A500 could be rooted if you had a specific serial number, but I don't know about the A100 -- I would check that. Why does rootability matter? So you can add apps and make customizations you cannot do with the stock tab.
As for root -- see for yourself in the A100 forums. The ThinkPad K1 probably won't see too many customizations, and Lenovo is not a great leader for innovation, but there is a work in progress for an ICS 4.03 update by forum members here, and it may eventually be applicable to the K1. Look into that for the A100.
Bottom line -- as you said, they are equal in specifications, so I would go with the tab with the most customization options. Please let me know what you decided.

I agree with above I'd look into development off the device first if your into that read user reviews in amazon and such retailers see what people gotta say about each
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Thanks for the suggestions.
I looked and seems like both have their bootloaders locked, hence not very active for the custom rom developers.
Both are rootable, so it seemed like on the forums.
Acer a100 was launched early last year and hence should be a lower priority for acer, since a200 has also been launched. Although official ICS is expected by april and leaked already available.
Lenovo K1 also officially releasing ICS around the same time, but a fairly neew release by Lenovo so I guess, the support life should be better. Plus very recently, around mid Feb, Lenovo released the source code for their devices which to me sounds like they are looking at a developer friendly model for their devices. I don't know if that would make the bootloader unlocked for full developer support and developer interest, so only time will tell.
For similar prices (a100 costing 20 cheaper) but 8gb vs a 32gb k1, opted for a k1. Costing 335 canadian dollars with the taxes.
Hope the decision is right, will only know once I start using the device.
Thanks!
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rezapatel said:
Thanks for the suggestions.
I looked and seems like both have their bootloaders locked, hence not very active for the custom rom developers.
Both are rootable, so it seemed like on the forums.
Acer a100 was launched early last year and hence should be a lower priority for acer, since a200 has also been launched. Although official ICS is expected by april and leaked already available.
Lenovo K1 also officially releasing ICS around the same time, but a fairly neew release by Lenovo so I guess, the support life should be better. Plus very recently, around mid Feb, Lenovo released the source code for their devices which to me sounds like they are looking at a developer friendly model for their devices. I don't know if that would make the bootloader unlocked for full developer support and developer interest, so only time will tell.
For similar prices (a100 costing 20 cheaper) but 8gb vs a 32gb k1, opted for a k1. Costing 335 canadian dollars with the taxes.
Hope the decision is right, will only know once I start using the device.
Thanks!
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The stock Lenovo firmware leaves a lot to be desired performance wise, but.....
I think the future is still bright for the K1

khanning88 said:
The stock Lenovo firmware leaves a lot to be desired performance wise, but.....
I think the future is still bright for the K1
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I have been reading that, really hoping some developer adopts the k1 so we can see more activity on the device.
Not much action here on xda with the k1 - pretty surprising actually!
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rezapatel said:
I have been reading that, really hoping some developer adopts the k1 so we can see more activity on the device.
Not much action here on xda with the k1 - pretty surprising actually!
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It seems more chatter on rootzwiki for k1 in the ThinkPad Tablet section
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ker2gsr said:
It seems more chatter on rootzwiki for k1 in the ThinkPad Tablet section
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Definitely a better resource for the K1 and TP.
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and the first rom has been released ... for the K1. Check the Devp section.

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and the first rom has been released ... for the K1. Check the Devp section.
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But still in beta. At this point I am only looking for a root for the most recent update and I noticed its not available yet.
Sad but I would really love to root this device so I can add the performance increases myself, instead of relying on someone to create a stable custom rom for this device.
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I just sold my A500 and will be buying a TPT 1838-25U as soon as I can. I liked the A500 but I tried numerous apps to try and write but to no avail. I needed something that I could write on, I know paper still exist, as well as other features that the TPT offers.

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I just sold my A500 and will be buying a TPT 1838-25U as soon as I can. I liked the A500 but I tried numerous apps to try and write but to no avail. I needed something that I could write on, I know paper still exist, as well as other features that the TPT offers.
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I would personally pick up a Samsung Note for that needs over any tablet, because of the same resolution, pen input and an almost tablet sized screen, with a phone pocketability - a confused personality between the two, but I will assume it would just be a matter of getting used to.
Good luck with your purchase.
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Thank just ordered it, it should be here early next week, now I just need to read up on root.

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Getting annoyed with Acer? (Samsung released kernel source)

Come one what is the benefit of Acer keeping the beast locked down.
http://m.androidcentral.com/samsung-releases-galaxy-tab-101-kernel-source
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Hell yes.
Here is hope that Acer realizes the sooner they provide the community with what it needs to use our devices to their full potential the sooner they will move more units!
As soon as I saw Samsung released the kernal source it really got me down that I bought the Acer 2 weeks ago. Really like this tablet but with the lack of Acer opening things up I think my tablet is craigslist bound.
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this is so bad of acer
Too lazy to find the link but someone got a Tech Support response that the 3.0.1 kernel source would be out in the next week or 3. Hopefully 3.1 will follow more quickly.
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<attribute lazy=off>Here's the link, should be out today/tomorrow
If it doesn't come out today, I'll chase it up again in that same support task.
yesterday I ask acer indonesia about when 3.1 update and about unlock bootloader
and the answer is "this is acer global policy"
abditerex said:
yesterday I ask acer indonesia about when 3.1 update and about unlock bootloader
and the answer is "this is acer global policy"
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if u ask the customer service, i doubt they even understand what u are talking about...
not customer service..i ask direct to product support manager and look like know nothing
They are doing there own loss .
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I was just thinking... could it be that Acer is nothing but a marketer? They bought the device from OEM manufacturer somewhere in China, label it with 'Acer' and 'Iconia A500' and sell it.
That's why they know nothing about 'unlock bootloader'. Release kernel? Dream on!
Well, hope I'm wrong
Almost electronics products are made in china on this days,and they are releasing 3.1,so i dont believe that
Even worse, Honeycomb 3.2 is coming out within a few weeks and will be pushing to the xoom and possibly HTC flyer devices.
Looks like we are getting behind here Acer..
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Even worse, Honeycomb 3.2 is coming out within a few weeks and will be pushing to the xoom and possibly HTC flyer devices.
Looks like we are getting behind here Acer..
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I was under the impression 3.2 was just for 7" tablets.
TFordham said:
I was under the impression 3.2 was just for 7" tablets.
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That's what I've heard too. I think the Huawei is the only official announcement for 3.2 at this point, with the flyer being rumored to be waiting on 3.2 for the update. So we're still only 1 real update behind.
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I was under the impression 3.2 was just for 7" tablets.
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No.
One of the things 3.2 brings to the table is better support for 7" tablets (presumably 1024*600 resolution), but it also brings better hardware acceleration and bug fixes applicable to all Honeycomb tablets.
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One of the things 3.2 brings to the table is better support for 7" tablets (presumably 1024*600 resolution), but it also brings better hardware acceleration and bug fixes applicable to all Honeycomb tablets.
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Any source for that? All I've seen is the Huawei announcement.
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Any source for that? All I've seen is the Huawei announcement.
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I would like to see a relevant and trustworthy source as well. Everything I've read says that 3.2 = 3.1 fixed for 7" screens and Adobe Flash 10.3 built in. I haven't seen where any additional features or fixes were announced.
Technically I don't see why they wouldn't fix whatever bugs are discovered in 3.1, BUT I'm guessing 3.1 is the final major release with 3.2 being a minor one and maybe 3.2.x being supplemental bug fixes until Ice Cream is announced and released.
Tomshardware has it. I cant post links yet due to post count.
Go to tomshardware and you will find it.

acer iconia and 3.2

Hi....so what is the stand of Acer related to us getting 3.2 ?
I hope the won't just update to 3.2 but also improve a lot a bugs related specifically to this tablet, for example rotation time....while using Virtuous Galaxy, one can tell this ain't hardware related but software related....
VG rom rotates sooooo much a faster than Acer roms that you can actually dare to rotate it..ans show friends how it handles it!
GPS also works poorly for me.
Well ....any comments or news?
Happy to know more of this 3.2 Honeycomb release!
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As it's coming for the Transformer soon, I expect iconia tab to follow shortly...
The core 3.2 drop from Google isn't exactly that feature rich (just a few font/sizing smoothing and SD card improvements) - Offical 3.2 release notes - so I'm with you in hoping for some general performance improvements from ACER directly.
Overall I'm not really waiting for 3.2 (at least not as much as I was for the 3.0 > 3.1 update) - that might change if Acer actually notified the community more about *what* they are doing in their releases - most of the time the only way to find what's changed is by poking around the update file after it's dropped.
I know it's for sure too early talk about (and a bit off topic too), but while I think that 3.2 will come for both A500 and A501, I'm quite worried about the timing. I'm new to Acer devices (only have HTC Desire as a cell phone). To the ones who has other Acer devices: what's their "support lifetime"?
And, another fear is (again, too early to say) about 4.0: I hope we will be covered but... again, who knows about their support duration?
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I know it's for sure too early talk about (and a bit off topic too), but while I think that 3.2 will come for both A500 and A501, I'm quite worried about the timing. I'm new to Acer devices (only have HTC Desire as a cell phone). To the ones who has other Acer devices: what's their "support lifetime"?
And, another fear is (again, too early to say) about 4.0: I hope we will be covered but... again, who knows about their support duration?
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By the time 4.0 comes out, the Tegra3 will be launching right along side/with it. Time for some quad core lovin'!
kjy2010 said:
By the time 4.0 comes out, the Tegra3 will be launching right along side/with it. Time for some quad core lovin'!
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That's for sure. I'm not updating my tablet or phone until ice cream 4.0 is out. The EVO and acer will have to do until then.
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I've already made up my mind not to upgrade to a quad when it comes out. Duo is enough for me for now. The acer and gtab should last me for a while.
3.2 is for 7" tablet.. so why look for it?
expand/minimise window is nice , but 3.2? i think 3.1.1 would have be ok.
acer will not deliver anything good with 3.2, just resized window, what a fracking breakthrough..
well there is one part of the update that looks helpful: and that is the extended micro SD support. Meaning my music apps might actually be able to properly utilize my card.
cm0901 said:
I know it's for sure too early talk about (and a bit off topic too), but while I think that 3.2 will come for both A500 and A501, I'm quite worried about the timing. I'm new to Acer devices (only have HTC Desire as a cell phone). To the ones who has other Acer devices: what's their "support lifetime"?
And, another fear is (again, too early to say) about 4.0: I hope we will be covered but... again, who knows about their support duration?
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I wouldn't worry too much. 4.0 will apparently be open sourced, like with 2.x, so rom builders can put together proper roms for the device rather than just modified versions of existing roms. 4.0 will come the iconia one way or another.
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By the time 4.0 comes out, the Tegra3 will be launching right along side/with it. Time for some quad core lovin'!
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Are you saying that 4.0 will require Tegra3 and/or quad core? Is this official or just your speculation?
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I agree that 3.2 is a minor update. However, if Asus and Moto are pumping it out I doubt that Acer will not follow suit. They already dropped the price to match the Asus so I have to believe they are keeping a close eye on the competition.
4.0 IceCream Sandwich is obviously the big update for the end of the year and really I'm thinking the a500 would be getting it. Probably not right at launch but fairly soon after. I'm of the opinion that Android has done a pretty good job of pumping out updates frequently and that keeps the carriers/manufacturers pretty loose with the hardware upgrade cycles. Meaning, unless there is a hardware limitation, I would bet the a500 gets the update since it has not been out that long. In the long run, even if it doesn't officially come from Acer, I'm sure the devs cook up some 4.0 goodness for us.
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Are you saying that 4.0 will require Tegra3 and/or quad core? Is this official or just your speculation?
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On the contrary, 4.0 "supposedly" is to bring both phones and tablets onto the same OS!
cm0901 said:
To the ones who has other Acer devices: what's their "support lifetime"?
And, another fear is (again, too early to say) about 4.0: I hope we will be covered but... again, who knows about their support duration?
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This is my first Acer so I can't speak on lifetime, but the joy of Android, I'll guess long after Acer has moved on to the next tablet (A600 ?) - there will still be some resourceful people here releasing custom ROM updates including whatever neat updates including in the next tablet generation - but I'll put money down that their support model will be slightly longer than most carriers and their phones.
well I'm in no rush for it and wasn't in a rush for 3.1 only thing I would like is for better gps
base on Malaysia Acer,Hi fans - the Honeycomb 3.2 update for our Iconia Tab A500 will be released from 10th August onwards ~ stay tuned !
Several major changes
- Compatibility Zoom (app scaling)
- microSD card support (via USB cable to PC)
and many more ~!
http://www.facebook.com/#!/AcerMalaysia
Don't know if it's true or not
We might not get 4.0.......coz by that time acer would release its 7 inch tab running on 4.0....so....less probability for us getting an update for 4.0
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vari9 said:
We might not get 4.0.......coz by that time acer would release its 7 inch tab running on 4.0....so....less probability for us getting an update for 4.0
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Don't quite follow the logic that because the 7 inch tab would be out, the 10 inch won't get it?? The 7 isn't considered an 'upgrade' just another option.
update chasser threada
Just my openion here.yesne replying to this thread makes as guilty as um going to talk about here.With that said
Why is it we sit and wait wait grumbling about the next update. I do use my tablet and enjoy it as is.Stop chasing the next update. It will come
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Just my openion here.yesne replying to this thread makes as guilty as um going to talk about here.With that said
Why is it we sit and wait wait grumbling about the next update. I do use my tablet and enjoy it as is.Stop chasing the next update. It will come
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Well... there's more than someone here who loves updating and in general hacking their devices
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cfrock said:
Don't quite follow the logic that because the 7 inch tab would be out, the 10 inch won't get it?? The 7 isn't considered an 'upgrade' just another option.
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I'm not sure there was any? No need to look for something that's not there.
We'll get HC 3.2 the same way we got 3.1, 4-8 weeks behind Asia and Europe. I'm thinking we may very well get it here in the us by the time 4.0 comes out.....maybe?

CyanogenMod 9!

It's official! CyanogenMod 9 is coming to the eeePad Transformer!
CM 9 Progress Update
We’ve been hard at work on CM9 since Google released Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) into the wild last month, and things are slowly starting to come together. Google did a great job with ICS and added some really awesome features which in some cases replace or deprecate functionality that we had in CM7, so we are reevaluating all of our customizations. A number of devices are already up and running with CM9, and the focus is currently on getting as many devices ready as we can. The first devices (besides the Nexus S, which you can already get from Koush’s section on ROM Manager) that we’ll have ready will mostly likely be devices based on OMAP4, MSM8660/7X30, and Exynos. We also have some Tegra2 tablets in the pipeline such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Asus Transformer. Our goal is to provide continued support to all CM7 devices back to the QSD8250 series of devices such as the Nexus One. I don’t want to make any promises at this time, but that is the plan. And sorry Droid1 owners, we’re dropping support for you. Time to upgrade
There are a number of challenges that we are up against. Google has made some pretty major changes to the Android framework that break compatibility with older proprietary camera and graphics drivers in order to achieve some pretty insane performance, but I am confident that the team will be able to overcome these issues like we have in the past.
For those of you who like to build CM from source yourself, you probably know that the spin-up time when starting a CM7 build is absurdly long due to the high number of devices in our repository. Koush and Arcee have put together a solution to this problem that adds new devices on-demand to your local repository, saving on both bandwidth and the long startup time. Some other great enhancements are coming too, like a completely overhauled music app, a new file manager, and a new launcher based on stock 4.0.
If you have a Nexus S, you can check out the code and build for yourself today. More devices are on the way, and I’ll send out these status updates as we make more progress
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...I think I just came in my pants
Well.... Thats just f'ing awesome
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I'm sorry Roach/Prime... you were great but the wife is callin' me home.
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very good news.
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very good news.
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I am so happy as soon as it is released I will donate to these guys!
Expected Release date ??
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Expected Release date ??
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First rule of CM: do not ask for an ETA.
I hope they don't wait until it works on all devices to release this. They are nearly finished it, i would use it now.
see and wait.
Hopefully it takes not to long.
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I'm sorry Roach/Prime... you were great but the wife is callin' me home.
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Exactly what I was thinking. I love Prime and the work roach has been doing, but when I can get CM on the tablet, I will go running.
what's the advantage of CM vs Prime rom ?
Its Vanilla ICS. Most stable best battery life and best performance.
You have to try it to actually realize the differance. Which is like day and night
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Well, if Roach and Gnufabio can't get any Transformer love after CM9 hits, they should know the Acer A100 forum would hail them as gods...
I did not expect we would get an official, so much as one of our brillant devs would probably do it unofficially lol.
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Expect a build of cm9 from Roach with his own tweaks and improvements
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Spidey01 said:
I did not expect we would get an official, so much as one of our brillant devs would probably do it unofficially lol.
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It shouldn't be that shocking, the tablet sold *really* well. Xoom, GTab 10.1, and TF were basically the honeycomb tablets.
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Maybe we will see a tablet version of MIUI for us after CM9 hits.
I mean. The nook color got MIUI after it recieved official CM7 support. I dont see why we wouldnt. I cant wait
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the guys from Xiaomi (company behind MIUI roms) allready working on MIUI build on ICS so once they release first ICS MIUI it should not take long till we will see our first MIUI rom for TF
imitebewrong said:
Maybe we will see a tablet version of MIUI for us after CM9 hits.
I mean. The nook color got MIUI after it recieved official CM7 support. I dont see why we wouldnt. I cant wait
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othar said:
what's the advantage of CM vs Prime rom ?
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It'll be interesting to see what the difference is. CM is usually better than stock firmware sure so being as lean and cut-back as possible while still adding in extremely useful features.
Asus have done a great job of keeping their firmware bloat-free though, so it may not be too different, performance-wise. The biggest advantage will probably come from extended support. Asus probably won't upgrade the TF101 past 4.0 - having CM pretty much ensures that it will get every version of Android in the future so long as somebody is interested in getting it running.
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It'll be interesting to see what the difference is. CM is usually better than stock firmware sure so being as lean and cut-back as possible while still adding in extremely useful features.
Asus have done a great job of keeping their firmware bloat-free though, so it may not be too different, performance-wise. The biggest advantage will probably come from extended support. Asus probably won't upgrade the TF101 past 4.0 - having CM pretty much ensures that it will get every version of Android in the future so long as somebody is interested in getting it running.
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A lot of the "bloat" Asus has added is incredibly useful. Polaris Office is really nice, and unavailable if Asus didn't include it. Same with Supernote, which is pretty good for free. Splashtop, again, expensive software included for free.
The **** I hate is them bundling things like Netflix... it's freely available on the market, and only available in select regions, why on earth would you bundle that?
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Xoom not supported in AOSP

According to Jean-Baptiste Queru of the AOSP, the xoom and nexus aren't supported.... "There is no support for 4.2 on Nexus S and Xoom. Those devices should
continue using 4.1.2."
later, he says he cannot comment on the future of those devices. What does this mean for us?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951841
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Hmm I feel the Xoom would run 4.2 fine I think it is a marketing ploy to make people upgrade my Xoom still flies on 4.1 hopefully modders can help out as I don't really wanna up date
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joshndroid said:
Hmm I feel the Xoom would run 4.2 fine I think it is a marketing ploy to make people upgrade my Xoom still flies on 4.1 hopefully modders can help out as I don't really wanna up date
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I think they're working on it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885269
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unofficialy it will eventually come and it will run as smooth as nexus 10 because xoom has the capacity and hardware for it...it's not a big jump from 4.1.2 to 4.2
romdroid. said:
it will run as smooth as nexus 10 because xoom has the capacity and hardware for it
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Don't kid yourself. The Xoom shows its age on 4.1.2 as it is. Compare the performance to a Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus and you can see the difference in speed. Just because the Xoom has the hardware to support the latest version, doesn't mean its going to keep up with devices with fresh hardware. Its coming up on 2 years as it is, which means a lot when there's new, better hardware coming out every ~6 months.
The one feature from 4.2 that I really wanted is multi user support. It was an obvious omission from tablets right from the beginning.
What are the chances of fully activating this feature in 4.1.2, seeing as it already has the underpinnings under the surface?
Yes, it's sad, but those that say it's a "marketing ploy" just need to realize how old the Xoom is and how much work it takes to port these new releases to devices. Money doesn't grow on trees, and neither do man-hours. Once the 4.2 branch started happening and the Nexus 10 hardware was finalized it became Google's standard 10-inch tablet internally. The guys who would have been doing the port internally in Google probably have N10s on their desks and their Xooms are collecting dust in some drawer. That's the way the world works.
That being said, if you look back to ICS, the 4.0.1 code dropped... and no Xoom support. Then the 4.0.2 code dropped... and no Xoom support. It wasn't until 4.0.3 that the Xoom gained AOSP support. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Xoom supported in a 4.2.2 (or later) release. The Nexus 4 isn't even supported in AOSP yet, for goodness' sakes! It will probably be someone's 20% time project and it will happen eventually.
Either way, if it doesn't hit AOSP, I'll either sell it to get some dough for a N10 (my mom has been talking about buying it from me) or lend my support to the porting process during the holiday break. The multi-user mode in 4.2 would be very useful on the Xoom.
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Don't kid yourself. The Xoom shows its age on 4.1.2 as it is. Compare the performance to a Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus and you can see the difference in speed. Just because the Xoom has the hardware to support the latest version, doesn't mean its going to keep up with devices with fresh hardware. Its coming up on 2 years as it is, which means a lot when there's new, better hardware coming out every ~6 months.
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dude dont be a ****ing noob, its not the "core" that matthers.
romdroid. said:
dude dont be a ****ing noob, its not the "core" that matthers.
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Thats a bit of a hostile response, don't you think?
And if by "core," you're referring to the SoC, yeah it kinda does matter. The tegra 2 is a tad outdated, its architecture being a big part of it (A9). The Tegra 3 was a nice upgrade on Nvidia's part, with the Samsung Exynos 5 being even better than that. I'm sure someone with even more technical expertise could explain more in detail on the differences, but the architecture itself is a good indicator.
Now on to personal experience. I've put my Xoom alongside a Nexus 7 and my Galaxy Nexus, all running 4.1.2 and yeah, the Xoom is noticeably slower. I can't wait to see the Nexus 10's performance in person. No one here is saying the Xoom is **** or slow or whatever. But it is, gasp, slower than devices with hardware that is fresh and not 2 years old. Newer technology is better, who knew?
So yeah...no offense but given the delightful way you went about disagreeing with me, I'd say you were projecting just a tad.
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That being said, if you look back to ICS, the 4.0.1 code dropped... and no Xoom support. Then the 4.0.2 code dropped... and no Xoom support. It wasn't until 4.0.3 that the Xoom gained AOSP support. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Xoom supported in a 4.2.2 (or later) release. The Nexus 4 isn't even supported in AOSP yet, for goodness' sakes! It will probably be someone's 20% time project and it will happen eventually.
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The difference with those instances and now is that the Xoom was projected to get all of those, it just took a bit of time for it to hit AOSP. According to the google groups statement, the Xoom is slated to stay on 4.1.2 (I forget the actual quote). Now of course, that could mean, as you say, that it might just be a while for it to hit AOSP, but I think that's being a bit hopeful. Hopefully we'll get an official word on it soon but I think thats about it, at least with regards to AOSP.
And honestly, the Xoom had 18+ months of official support. For those that remember, 18 months was what Google wanted manufacturers under the Android Update Alliance to go by for supporting devices. So they've met their own target and then some with regards to both the Xoom and the Nexus S.
It would be nice for the Xoom to have 4.2 support, but even if it doesn't happen, its been a fabulous 2 years, right? Because I think it has
alex94kumar said:
It would be nice for the Xoom to have 4.2 support, but even if it doesn't happen, its been a fabulous 2 years, right? Because I think it has
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It has been a fabulous 2 years, we'll still get 4.2 support, just unofficially
AOSP not supporting Xoom
No a very smart move by Google, me thinks, in not supporting Xoom after 4.1.2 ( Bless the custom mod gurus!!!). I know in my case I am going Windows Surface. Heres why, I just updated my 6 year old notebook to W8, and it flies.. new lease on life. If Google think I am buying a new tablet every 2 years, Stop the train, we have arrived at looney (google) central!!!!. Long live the custom rom(ers)
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No a very smart move by Google, me thinks, in not supporting Xoom after 4.1.2 ( Bless the custom mod gurus!!!). I know in my case I am going Windows Surface. Heres why, I just updated my 6 year old notebook to W8, and it flies.. new lease on life. If Google think I am buying a new tablet every 2 years, Stop the train, we have arrived at looney (google) central!!!!. Long live the custom rom(ers)
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The thing is, 2 years is actually...kind of a lot relative to the other first gen 10" tablets. The galaxy tab 10.1 took forever to get ICS and was put at EOL after that (back in June/July I think). Asus has handled the Transformer series pretty well; the OG Transformer received a timely ICS update and I believe was updated to 4.1, not sure if they're going past that. And finally the Acer A500 I think met a similar fate as the Galaxy tab, ending with 4.0.
So that puts the Xoom at one of 2 of the 4 Honeycomb tablets circa 2011 (were there any other notables?) that made it all the way to 4.1. Not too shabby.
Not shabby at all. A shame though that the reason for not supporting is a time limit instead of a hardware thing.
Phones changed a lot since nexus one to ICS
Not much changed hardware wise since Xoom and now IMO
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As I type, somebody is building 4.2 for the G1. Look, we can take anything aosp throws at us and make it work on Xoom, to one degree or another. It becomes a matter of performance. At some point, a previous aosp build will just be better for Xoom than the newest build.
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As I type, somebody is building 4.2 for the G1. Look, we can take anything aosp throws at us and make it work on Xoom, to one degree or another. It becomes a matter of performance. At some point, a previous aosp build will just be better for Xoom than the newest build.
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So does this meanTeam Eos is finished with rom support for the Xoom?
Just found in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997434 that the system partition on the Xoom is rather small-could this be the reason that Xoom fell from AOSP support and didn't get all of the JB features?
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So does this meanTeam Eos is finished with rom support for the Xoom?
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Ubuntu OS for tablet....

Can the Xoom after all these years handle the new Ubuntu tablet OS? I hope so because i just return my Galaxy note 10.1. I guess i need to order a nexus 10.1
I hope it will.
It looks like an awesome OS and I hope some of the amazing devs we have will be able to port it.
Ubuntu is open source and uses Linux kernel as Andorid does, so it should be doable.
Xoom's specs should be good enough to handle it, but until we don't put our hands on the OS we can't tell anything more specific.
However Nexus 7, that is one of the test devices for Ubuntu Touch has the same amount of RAM (1 Gb) as our tablet, so I am positive about it.
Xoom being non neon might be a problem. But that same issue is what cut off official support for 4.2+ versions of android, and I'm running a very functional 4.2.2 rom right now (EOS4).
it's already Work in progress....
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
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it's already work in progress....
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/touch/devices
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we love howard chan!
I'd love to see Ubuntu on my Xoom!
It shouldn't be to hard since ubuntu touch os uses cyanogenmod as a base which we already have
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cool i would like to have it on my tablet xD
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it would be sooo f***ing great to have it on my xoom ! hoping for a soon availability
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it would be sooo f***ing great to have it on my xoom ! hoping for a soon availability
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
It will be available as soon as you port it...
I started working on it a little last night but I'm getting a new computer next week so I decided to just wait. I don't want to spend the time to set everything up and have to do it again in another 5 days... Maybe someone else will start working on it in the meantime but honestly it still needs a lot of work. Right now it's worth flashing for about 5-10 minutes to satisfy ones curiosity and that's about it.
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xyboard 10.1 lte
Since there is least to nil development for xyboard 10.1 lte, will the xoom or xoom 2 ubuntu be used for xyboard, or can some developer port it for xyboard 10.1 i am aware this request is way to early but better early than late or never.
Oh I can't wait I know one of our genius devs will make it happen
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I believe pulled the motorola xoom to ubuntu developing
I setup the environment, and got the Xoom specific part to build but no boot joy. Im no dev but ill start trying to track down issues on my own. I also noticed the xoom is no longer listed on the devices page as a WIP.
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I setup the environment, and got the Xoom specific part to build but no boot joy. Im no dev but ill start trying to track down issues on my own. I also noticed the xoom is no longer listed on the devices page as a WIP.
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I was able to get it running on my Xoom, see this thread.
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