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Stock or custom?

I am getting tired of waiting for the stock 3.1 rom now so I am starting to think about using one of the custom roms.
Have there been any performance and function comparisons between the stock rom and the custom roms?
Or do you have any good arguments either way?

The two most popular appear to be Virtuous Picasso and Virtuous Galaxy. I have been using the 1.08 version of the former for sometime and have had no issues. I thether, have gps, bluetooth, WiFi all w/out issue. If your rooted, get wild and flash them both; see which you Luke better.

I like virtuous galaxy for the the touchwiz, but there were too many broken things. Exchange didn't work, couldn't access files on my external sd card (although apps like google music seemed to be able to) and my usb keyboard didn't work. Virtuous galaxy seems to work without any issues.

I've tried them all so far, and they all have pro's and con's. They also all have bugs, which is only to be expected.
Currently, I'm running stock and, to be honest, kinda prefer it. Though I *have* rooted and added a few tweaks...

willyampz said:
I like virtuous galaxy for the the touchwiz, but there were too many broken things. Exchange didn't work, couldn't access files on my external sd card (although apps like google music seemed to be able to) and my usb keyboard didn't work. Virtuous galaxy seems to work without any issues.
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You started off saying virtuous galaxy had too many broken things, then went on to say virtuous galaxy seems to work without issues? Maybe it's too early and I'm reading it wrong in my barely awake state, but could you clarify please? Lol

vanisleguy1976 said:
You started off saying virtuous galaxy had too many broken things, then went on to say virtuous galaxy seems to work without issues? Maybe it's too early and I'm reading it wrong in my barely awake state, but could you clarify please? Lol
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I don't mean to speak for willy but I think what he was saying is that at first, Virtuous Galaxy was nice but had too many broken features but after the release this past weekend, most of the bugs are fixed.
I am using Primee which is the Asus Transformer ROM with some of the Acer items left intact. I have tried Virtuous Galaxy and UI is beautiful but I was getting a barely perceptible lag opening and closing the app drawer even after OC to 1500 and it was bugging me. I think the problem could have been one of the Samsung widgets.
I normally recommend loading a custom rom if you feel comfortable. I rooted my HTC Magic back in the early days of Android and have never looked back.

wahlis said:
I am getting tired of waiting for the stock 3.1 rom now so I am starting to think about using one of the custom roms.
Have there been any performance and function comparisons between the stock rom and the custom roms?
Or do you have any good arguments either way?
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You should go for 3.1 stock (official acer update), works like butter and fixes problems that custom roms still have (like cell stanby) unless they are based on 3.1 stock (I'm still waiting )
Update to 3.1 stock Acer Official Update
No wipe needed or acer recovery/cwm, you don't lose your data, but it's highly recommended to backup and use recovery/cwm, through again not necesary.
Here is a change log (what's new/changed) to see if it's worth, if you do update please share with me in that thread what's new and changed so we can inform, share and encourage pleople to update to 3.1, plus if you do it now you get new OTA Acer_ A500_4.010.30_COM_GEN1 (I sound like a salesman ) who knows for how long they will keep the update

Justray said:
You should go for 3.1 stock (official acer update), works like butter and fixes problems that custom roms still have (like cell stanby) unless they are based on 3.1 stock (I'm still waiting )
Update to 3.1 stock Acer Official Update
No wipe needed or acer recovery/cwm, you don't lose your data, but it's highly recommended to backup and use recovery/cwm, through again not necesary.
Here is a change log (what's new/changed) to see if it's worth, if you do update please share with me in that thread what's new and changed so we can inform, share and encourage pleople to update to 3.1, plus if you do it now you get new OTA Acer_ A500_4.010.30_COM_GEN1 (I sound like a salesman ) who knows for how long they will keep the update
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My question is,after read almost all pages of the threads about this;does this go for all devices?I have a emea_gen3..sorry if i'm being a Noob now.
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Thanks for all the advice. I think I'll wait a while longer for the stock now. It doesn't sound like the custom roms are the kind of miracle upgrades I got to my Hero and Desire phones yet.
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booze78 said:
My question is,after read almost all pages of the threads about this;does this go for all devices?I have a emea_gen3..sorry if i'm being a Noob now.
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Yes it works, I went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1, everything works fine, updated from .22 to .30 from OTA.
wahlis said:
Thanks for all the advice. I think I'll wait a while longer for the stock now. It doesn't sound like the custom roms are the kind of miracle upgrades I got to my Hero and Desire phones yet.
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Actually the update posted IS official, Acer one, right now those with that version are getting OTA .30 update, so as far as I know that's stock unless you mean out-of-the-box as stock.

i meant to say virtuous picasso seems to work without issues and tried to edit it after.

Justray said:
Yes it works, I went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1, everything works fine, updated from .22 to .30 from OTA.
Actually the update posted IS official, Acer one, right now those with that version are getting OTA .30 update, so as far as I know that's stock unless you mean out-of-the-box as stock.
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Yessss,it worked.Lost root only..
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booze78 said:
Yessss,it worked.Lost root only..
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and you can re-root
Please post here anything new you find, new issues, fixed issues, software and experience related please

Just don't forget to back up!

@Justray, you say : "Yes it works, I went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1, everything works fine, updated from .22 to .30 from OTA."
How do you procede to go from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1?
My machine is COM_GEN1 so I'm happy. My sister who got hers in Denmark is EMEA_GEN3 and is still stuck with firmware 1.x (Android 3.0.1)... Is there a step-by-step instructions for going to COM_GEN1 for her machine?
I suspect I can then download the latest firmware manually from : code.google.com/p/acer-a500/downloads/list or use OTA like my machine?
Thanks,
Gilles.

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@Justray, you say : "Yes it works, I went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1, everything works fine, updated from .22 to .30 from OTA."
How do you procede to go from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1?
My machine is COM_GEN1 so I'm happy. My sister who got hers in Denmark is EMEA_GEN3 and is still stuck with firmware 1.x (Android 3.0.1)... Is there a step-by-step instructions for going to COM_GEN1 for her machine?
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I too went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1. Here is the basic low-down as to how I went about it:
* Install Acer Recovery from Market and use it to install clockworkmod.
* Download the COM_GEN1 ROM from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176632 thread.
* Use Acer ROM Decrypter to decrypt the .zip file and extract the update.zip from there.
* Rename the update.zip to something like e.g. AcerROMcomgen1.zip and copy it on your SD card. It's important that it is on the SD, not internal storage.
* Turn off your tablet, then turn it on while keeping the volume button pressed down until you see white text appear on the tablet screen's top-left corner.
* Use clockwordmod to first make a full backup for just-in-case. I really mean it: do a full backup. You never know if you might need it later!
* Then format cache, format data/factory reset, then install zip from SD.
* Reboot.
As for navigating in clockwordmod: you use the volume button to go up or down in menus, and power button to select the menu item.

How doi I get to ICS?

In December, when I picked up my TF101, I used Razorclaw + CWM to root it. I also found some kind of an update here that I applied that allowed me to overlock the device .. I believe it was a form of kernel patch?
I would like to go to ICS. I need to be rooted after ICS though, we have a VPN client for our SonicWall firewall that requires the OS to be rooted. I would also prefer an ICS port that supports overclocking like my current build .. it's been incredibly useful to clock up in to the 1400s as it makes everything run so much better.
Is it possible to upgrade to the stock ICS, root it easily and patch it to allow for overclocking at this time? If so, could someone direct me to a guide that shows what the easiest way to do this is, since I already have CWM in (although can't remember how to get it to come up on boot .. doh)?
Thanks =)

Wait till Asus fix the problems.

Yea dont install ICS, it would be like pouring water over your PC
It might seem fun at the time, but its really not a good idea

I would say it is a very bad idea. Avoid it. I did it and literally my tablet is unusable now because of
Slow response
Random rebooted
Random no message crash of apps like gmail.
Dead slow,app response
white screen on app loading
It is now embarrassing infront of ipad users.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

spinaldex said:
In December, when I picked up my TF101, I used Razorclaw + CWM to root it. I also found some kind of an update here that I applied that allowed me to overlock the device .. I believe it was a form of kernel patch?
I would like to go to ICS. I need to be rooted after ICS though, we have a VPN client for our SonicWall firewall that requires the OS to be rooted. I would also prefer an ICS port that supports overclocking like my current build .. it's been incredibly useful to clock up in to the 1400s as it makes everything run so much better.
Is it possible to upgrade to the stock ICS, root it easily and patch it to allow for overclocking at this time? If so, could someone direct me to a guide that shows what the easiest way to do this is, since I already have CWM in (although can't remember how to get it to come up on boot .. doh)?
Thanks =)
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Ignore the fear mongering posters.
Tons of people are using ICS without issues. But yes, some do experience issues.
Since you have CWM, you can directly flash the pre-rooted stock ICS. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552303 This is the latest 9.2.1.17 version.
If you want to overclock, you can flash custom ICS ROMs that support overclocking. There's only 2 at the moment, Team EOS and Codename Android.
Frequently updated custom ICS roms such as Team EOS and CM9 tend to be very stable and have fixes that stock ICS doesn't have, so flash a custom ROM instead of the stock ROM if you are concerned about possible issues.
As always, do factory reset + clear cache + clear dalvik cache within CWM before flashing the stock ROM or any custom ROM.
To be safe, I would update your CWM to the latest version here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213723 before flashing anything.

horndroid said:
Ignore the fear mongering posters.
Tons of people are using ICS without issues. But yes, some do experience issues.
Since you have CWM, you can directly flash the pre-rooted stock ICS. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552303 This is the latest 9.2.1.17 version.
If you want to overclock, you can flash custom ICS ROMs that support overclocking. There's only 2 at the moment, Team EOS and Codename Android.
Frequently updated custom ICS roms such as Team EOS and CM9 tend to be very stable and have fixes that stock ICS doesn't have, so flash a custom ROM instead of the stock ROM if you are concerned about possible issues.
As always, do factory reset + clear cache + clear dalvik cache within CWM before flashing the stock ROM or any custom ROM.
To be safe, I would update your CWM to the latest version here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213723 before flashing anything.
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Terrible advise.
Why tell someone to update to an OS that has literally flooded XDA and other forums, and ASUS's facebook page with people saying their TF is no longer usable ?
For the sake of waiting for a working update, why suggest doing something that could very well turn their TF into a buggy POS ?
There is nothing in ICS that is worth the risk

*Detection* said:
Terrible advise.
Why tell someone to update to an OS that has literally flooded XDA and other forums, and ASUS's facebook page with people saying their TF is no longer usable ?
For the sake of waiting for a working update, why suggest doing something that could very well turn their TF into a buggy POS ?
There is nothing in ICS that is worth the risk
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There are just as many people, probably much much more, who aren't having problems.
Besides, have you tried any custom ROMs? If not, stfu.

I would no say my TF is unusable under ICS.
It works fine, apart from not so random reboots, as it reboots mainly in the morning when I wake it up form the night...
maybe the Sleeping Beauty requires a kiss from the Prince ...
By the way, it used to be really better under HoneyComb, I wish i could have refused that damned firmware upgrade ...
If I were you I'd rather wait as an other poster said for a really proven Stable version from Asus
Nickola

horndroid said:
There are just as many people, probably much much more, who aren't having problems.
Besides, have you tried any custom ROMs? If not, stfu.
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Who the F are you telling to stfu ?
Of course I have tried custom ROMs you doosh, I just prefer to have a stock TF, well, I did until ASUS decided to send out buggy sh**

*Detection* said:
Who the F are you telling to stfu ?
Of course I have tried custom ROMs you doosh, I just prefer to have a stock TF, well, I did until ASUS decided to send out buggy sh**
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If you are using one of the better custom ICS roms and still having such bad issues, the problem is you and your apps since those AOSP roms aren't even based on Asus's ICS.
The OP has root and CWM, and wants to overclock. So how was it a bad advice to recommend a custom ICS rom?
Just because you are having issues, doesn't mean everyone else will.
I've never had any issues at all and I just got done testing like 5 different ROMs. No issues whatsoever. Probably because I do it correctly and do a full wipe including format /system before I flash anything.

I've got issues on Stock and I did a full wipe using voldn+power method and this was before I rooted. I also lost sound randomly on Stock, and the custom kernels I still get reboots but my sound for the main part does work.
So, if the OP needs their tablet to work correctly then wait, if it's not that important to them and they don't need for day to day tasks then take a chance, you might get lucky or you might be causing yourself a headache, up to you.

horndroid said:
If you are using one of the better custom ICS roms and still having such bad issues, the problem is you and your apps since those AOSP roms aren't even based on Asus's ICS.
The OP has root and CWM, and wants to overclock. So how was it a bad advice to recommend a custom ICS rom?
Just because you are having issues, doesn't mean everyone else will.
I've never had any issues at all and I just got done testing like 5 different ROMs. No issues whatsoever. Probably because I do it correctly and do a full wipe including format /system before I flash anything.
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How is the problem me when I am doing everything the "ASUS way" ?
The problem is ASUS and their code.
If you read the OP's actual post, you will see this line
"Is it possible to upgrade to the stock ICS"
And if you want to go even further into it, your line "Probably because I do it correctly and do a full wipe including format /system before I flash anything"
I don't think you can get a cleaner flash than NVFLASH, which is how I always flash my ROMs

Is updated bootloader needed

Hey guys what's up sorry I'm sure there are other threads about this but I haven't been able to find one to answer me directly....is the updated ics sandwich boot loader necessary I was able to flash flexreapers and lightspeed's ics custom rooms without it? So is it really needed does it make it faster update cmw or just allow recovery boot menu and dual boot I'm at a lost on weather its neccesary or not thanks once again

It will be soon, alot of the developers, including Civato, have said they are going to stop development for the HC bootloader. It does significantly improve performance and eliminates most of the glitches on ICS.

And it will make life easier in the future - upgrading the bootloader, etc. straight from CWM among others.

strongergravity said:
And it will make life easier in the future - upgrading the bootloader, etc. straight from CWM among others.
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cruise350 said:
It will be soon, alot of the developers, including Civato, have said they are going to stop development for the HC bootloader. It does significantly improve performance and eliminates most of the glitches on ICS.
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Alright sweet +thanks ;-) I'll update it later then

gears177 said:
Alright sweet +thanks ;-) I'll update it later then
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Just stick with whatever custom recovery that is provided with the package you
use...not all features in all recoveries are yet supported.
some are meant only for certain BL's for instance HC3.2 and TWRP
from v4 BL on you are able to flash a zip thru recovery and more fastboot commands are available.
You need to read the change logs for each version as things are being added with each new release.
One thing i am certain of and that is if you are having ANY weird issues, sod, wifi OFF, nvflash issues then what seems to settle everything down is a rollback to HC - I think alot of us myself included, never flashed the right thing at the right time when first upgrading to ICS (and at some future point ending up with a "freakenstein" not one thing or the other and not working all that well either) when you start running a "compatible system" i.e kernel, bootloader, recovery, rom all working as they should, then things look and work a whole heccuvalot better!!!

I will not support HC bootloader for the Overclocking kernel for ICS.
To much problems. So expect no OC support for my rom if you stay on HC bootloader.

[Q] Rooting a U8800 that's currently on 2.2...

Good evening all,
Basically I'm looking to root my girlfriends fathers U8800, it's currently running android 2.2. He's complained that its got major battery drain so I figure I can find a ROM here that can help that.
I've read there are 3 different types of models for this handset. How do I know which one we've got? If that's relevant?
I've found this thread that seems dead easy to follow, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420728 , am I ok to proceed?
When I've rooted it, do I just flash a rom via CWM like I would with my galaxy s? And will I be caught out with bootloader issues or little things like that?
Thanks in advance.

If the device is the U8800 regular model(not pro or plus) you can follow the guides of the link.
And yes, you can flash a rom from cwm recovery.
Only one suggestion. If you flash the latest stock gingerbread rom(I think is the 522), search for a thread called "get your pink screen back" on developing section. The after 518 versions have the bootloader locked, and on the above thread you will find how to flash the unlocked bootloader from 518 stock rom.

Thanks for that, I'll get on it tomorrow with an operational head. I'll do the pre root checks and make sure I have everything I need in place before I get going.

dancer_69 said:
If you flash the latest stock gingerbread rom(I think is the 522)
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It's 528
dancer_69 said:
The after 518 versions have the bootloader locked, and on the above thread you will find how to flash the unlocked bootloader from 518 stock rom.
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*locked pink screen.
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If the device is not yours I suggest you to do nothing. There's no better Rom, in terms of bug free than the original one.
Custom roms always have this or that and will require attention, which I'm sure your fatherin law can live better without these issues and concerns.
This devices have an high consumption and he has to get used to it.
Now if the device was yours meaning you would be using it daily, than i would advise you to install aurora. I don't like it but have to admit that is very good and stable.
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Sent from Odin's device!

Dave759 said:
He's complained that its got major battery drain so I figure I can find a ROM here that can help that.
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Did you look to see what is causing the battery drain? I have a friend with a stock GT540 that had serious battery drain. Turns out it was the GoSMS program. Deleted the app and now his phone lasts 5 days between charges. Switching a rom won't help if the problem is an app.
1) Get cpu spy and see if it is going to deep sleep
2) If not sleeping, turn off running applications one by one and test via cpu spy to find out which one is causing it not to sleep.
3) Either remove the offending app or use Autorun Manager to modify the receivers (if rooted)
You can fix his problem without changing his rom. If he wants root, superoneclick can root 2.2, I just used it the other day. Also make sure he is on the latest 2.2: b138sp04 or b163. I prefer b163, even though it is the China rom, because I like the Huawei launcher better that stock.

A.C.A.B. said:
If the device is not yours I suggest you to do nothing. There's no better Rom, in terms of bug free than the original one.
Custom roms always have this or that and will require attention, which I'm sure your fatherin law can live better without these issues and concerns.
This devices have an high consumption and he has to get used to it.
Now if the device was yours meaning you would be using it daily, than i would advise you to install aurora. I don't like it but have to admit that is very good and stable.
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That's not true... official 2.2 is the slowest thing in existence. If he just needs stability then Ezets CM7 is the answer. There are no bugs with it (except wifi tethering) and it's much much faster than stock...
Also he can undervoltage it to preserve battery life more than stock ROM.
Sent from my U8800

You want the best 2.2 you try Void Eridanus. Everything works.
Want the speed, OEX rom it's a Ferrari. Everything works less the mms with data off.
You can also keep the stock Rom, root it and just apply a ffranco kernel. This way you gain the speed.
3 good solutions here.
I'm don't revert to stock Rom for 2 reasons, cam quality and battery life, otherwise i would use stock Rom without a shadow of a doubt.
In terms of stability and all working it's stock 2.2 Rom and this is unquestionable!!!
I have been trying ALL roms and ALL respective versions since July 2011 therefore I do speak by personal extended experience
I repeat once again, in the conditions you mention leave the phone as it is. If you want to do something just root it and that's it.

as a matter of facts i had my phone with so many rooms that i can even say how many but if u want stability i recomend oxygen... if u want stability and good looks use miui 32...
last .32 miui that i used was from miui portugal in english and nothing to say about that...
battery for 2 days and all smoth...
but my phone is weird... he can take almost every rom and be usable...

The issue with miui pt versions it's the cam quality that is horrible. It's just this detail that it's not very good. The rest it's perfect.
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Hey everyone, back for an update and some other steps. basically, he got frustrated with how the battery so he went out today and bought the newer huawei. Reading eveyones comments here i think its due to the ammount of apps and being on froyo hasn't helped any thing, but anyways its now my new toy to play with. So far, followed the link i posted in the first thread, rooted and installed the latest CWM (v5). I'm now a little confused when it comes to the get the pink screen back, should i follow this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1457490 now before flashing a new rom or afterwards?
Again thanks for all the help, I'm almost done bothering you all for now
Edit: Reading on some ROM's and the comments above, i should install B518 stock ROM then flash the bootloader fix from the thread posted above then i can install other ROM's? If so where can i get the stock B518 ROM and how do i know which version I'm using? Sorry and thanks again.

First, which rom you have now?
You can find the version from settings -> about phone.
If you have a newer than 518 version you need to change the bootloader with the one from 518. If you have 518 you don't.
Also check which version of kernel you have(is on about phone also)
If you have a 2.6.32 version(which mean that you have froyo rom), you can flash only roms with this kernel version. If you have a 2.6.35 version, you can flash roms with 2.6.35 kernel or 3.0.8(as aurora ICS).

Basically its a stock froyo rom, im looking to get to gingerbread by the end of tonight but currently im stuck on the huawei splash screen after i did a data reset in CWM. Can still get to CWM though.

What rom you want to flash now?
A custom gingerbread based of froyo's kernel 2.6.32 like CM7.2, oxygen or miui, or the official gingerbread?

Im not particularly bothered, something that won't brick the phone and is stable. I'm more worried as to why it wont boot now after a data reset.. any suggestions for that?

You can use adb and logcat function to see where the problem is. Usually when some errors prevent device to complete the boot proccess, this piece of code loops. You need to have some knowledge of programming though, but maybe is something easy.

and now i have blue screen.. what can i do? or have i bricked it?

Where you have blue screen and what you did?
Usually blue screen instead of recovery mode, means that the recovery.img is deleted from .cust_backup/Image folder

basically, i formatted something, reboot and soon as the huawei logo appear a blue scrren rolls down. when i plug the phone into the pc it detects a folder but its empty, the phone is detected as qualcomm now..

Yes, seems that you formated the partition which has the Image folder with all system images. So, now you need to flash an official rom. You can either flash a froyo or a gingerbread rom. You can avoid this only if you previous had take a backup of this folder. In this case just put all files in (empty now) image folder.

[Q] sluggish out of the box performance

Hello TPT community,
I Just got this tablet mainly because of the included digitizer and was wondering if anyone could give me a guideline on how to speed things up for this tablet. The tablet came with honeycomb 3.1 included and I am finding it pretty sluggish and unresponsive in general tasks. I went into settings to do a software update but it seems there is no 4.0 update available. There doesn't seem to be a toggle for pen only input in the settings either. Is the normal process for flashing a new Rom to root, then install CWM, and flash Roms?

I'm kind of a n00b here, but that is the right process in general.
For you, there should be a 4.0 update, but you might have to try a few times. After you are running ICS (4.0) you can root and load Koshu's JB rom.

Aren't there problems with rooting ICS?
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Absolutely no problms rooting ics
Sent from my Micromax A50

Okay well I went into settings, about tablet, system updates, check for updates. It always says "your system is up to date" even though I know I'm on 3.1
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Lets see if we can figure out why it won't update. In settings -> about tablet, what is listed for model number, android version, and kernel version?
Edit:
Found this - http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPa...ystem-updates-OTAs-not-installing/ta-p/713571
It might help... I'm also searching for a manual download for ota3 or ota 3.5 from lenovo that you can load in recovery.
Edit 2:
Sorry, I need more coffee...
Is this a wifi only tablet or a 3g tablet? What region is it?

I attached the info in a picture. I dont know how to find out what region or wifi/3g it is though. I don't have a sim to test it. I got it from here: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7473177&CatId=6845

It is wifi only, also found this interesting thread - http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-slate-tablets/thinkpad-1839-update/td-p/975085
Apparently the Tiger Direct refurb is a custom SKU and is SUPPOSEDLY not upgradeable... tho I would think there are ways around that. At least now I know what we are working with here.

da_reeseboy said:
It is wifi only, also found this interesting thread - http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-slate-tablets/thinkpad-1839-update/td-p/975085
Apparently the Tiger Direct refurb is a custom SKU and is SUPPOSEDLY not upgradeable... tho I would think there are ways around that. At least now I know what we are working with here.
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So any ideas on how to update to ICS? The ROM in android development section says it requires me to have ICS first.

Unfortunately no... sorry. I'm still a n00b with android devices. Maybe someone with a little more knowledge will chime in now that we know what we are dealing with.

You can root your tablet and go straight to Jelly Bean 4.1.1 or 4.1.2. It's fast and cool! The only little bug is with wifi!
Gesendet von meinem CM10 0.8.1 overclocked Jelly Bean 4.1.1 Thinkpadtablet

troemer said:
You can root your tablet and go straight to Jelly Bean 4.1.1 or 4.1.2. It's fast and cool! The only little bug is with wifi!
Gesendet von meinem CM10 0.8.1 overclocked Jelly Bean 4.1.1 Thinkpadtablet
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A wifi bug is pretty big. The only connectivity mine has is wifi
I tried to install the adb drivers so I can root it but it says the driver has been tampered with so I can't install. I am on windows 8
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@troemer: Not sure if you noticed it or not, but in Koshu's cm10 thread it says:
Requirements
This build uses the Lenovo ICS kernel, you need to upgrade to stock ICS first (Make sure you keep root!)
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This is why he is trying to get the ICS update.

Daedalus_ said:
A wifi bug is pretty big. The only connectivity mine has is wifi
I tried to install the adb drivers so I can root it but it says the driver has been tampered with so I can't install. I am on windows 8
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The wifi bug actually isn't that big, just set wifi to always on like suggested. As far as the tampered drivers error, you will probably have to : a) search for a way to install unsigned drivers on win8
or b) use a winxp/win7 pc.
Be careful tho... flashing after having stock ICS is needed for a reason.

Flashing what?

Daedalus_ said:
Flashing what?
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Based on this:
Daedalus_ said:
A wifi bug is pretty big. The only connectivity mine has is wifi
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I was worried you were gonna try to just jump straight to JB.

Hey there,
well one way is to try flashing the upgrade directly but like da_reeseboy already mentioned, there is a high possibility that it will fail. Only other way would be to flash the bootloader directly (that most likely the part, that keeps the JB kernel from booting on non ICS kernels) but there is a high bricking chance and eventually the firmware for some of the hardware needs to be updated, too, to work properly.

It looks like there's hope - this guy has the same weird software version as you - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37487649&postcount=6. He used the directions in that thread to upgrade to ICS.
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Full thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37487649#post37487649

Koshu said:
Hey there,
well one way is to try flashing the upgrade directly but like da_reeseboy already mentioned, there is a high possibility that it will fail. Only other way would be to flash the bootloader directly (that most likely the part, that keeps the JB kernel from booting on non ICS kernels) but there is a high bricking chance and eventually the firmware for some of the hardware needs to be updated, too, to work properly.
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Just trying to think outside the box (noob style), what if he:
1. Installed CWM
2. Restored a clean 0075 nandroid from someone here on xda
3. Restored stock recovery
4. Checked for OTA to ICS
In my mind the software version is what is holding him back from updates, so I'm thinking that restoring an 0075 nandroid will put him in a position to get the update correctly... but I am still new to this so I could be WAY off.

da_reeseboy said:
Just trying to think outside the box (noob style), what if he:
1. Installed CWM
2. Restored a clean 0075 nandroid from someone here on xda
3. Restored stock recovery
4. Checked for OTA to ICS
In my mind the software version is what is holding him back from updates, so I'm thinking that restoring an 0075 nandroid will put him in a position to get the update correctly... but I am still new to this so I could be WAY off.
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Thanks for still helping! Do I need a special CWM? I just root and install CWM from the market? Honeycomb is really annoying because some apps I use are only for newer androids such as Hulu plus.