Stock or custom? - Acer Iconia A500

I am getting tired of waiting for the stock 3.1 rom now so I am starting to think about using one of the custom roms.
Have there been any performance and function comparisons between the stock rom and the custom roms?
Or do you have any good arguments either way?

The two most popular appear to be Virtuous Picasso and Virtuous Galaxy. I have been using the 1.08 version of the former for sometime and have had no issues. I thether, have gps, bluetooth, WiFi all w/out issue. If your rooted, get wild and flash them both; see which you Luke better.

I like virtuous galaxy for the the touchwiz, but there were too many broken things. Exchange didn't work, couldn't access files on my external sd card (although apps like google music seemed to be able to) and my usb keyboard didn't work. Virtuous galaxy seems to work without any issues.

I've tried them all so far, and they all have pro's and con's. They also all have bugs, which is only to be expected.
Currently, I'm running stock and, to be honest, kinda prefer it. Though I *have* rooted and added a few tweaks...

willyampz said:
I like virtuous galaxy for the the touchwiz, but there were too many broken things. Exchange didn't work, couldn't access files on my external sd card (although apps like google music seemed to be able to) and my usb keyboard didn't work. Virtuous galaxy seems to work without any issues.
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You started off saying virtuous galaxy had too many broken things, then went on to say virtuous galaxy seems to work without issues? Maybe it's too early and I'm reading it wrong in my barely awake state, but could you clarify please? Lol

vanisleguy1976 said:
You started off saying virtuous galaxy had too many broken things, then went on to say virtuous galaxy seems to work without issues? Maybe it's too early and I'm reading it wrong in my barely awake state, but could you clarify please? Lol
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I don't mean to speak for willy but I think what he was saying is that at first, Virtuous Galaxy was nice but had too many broken features but after the release this past weekend, most of the bugs are fixed.
I am using Primee which is the Asus Transformer ROM with some of the Acer items left intact. I have tried Virtuous Galaxy and UI is beautiful but I was getting a barely perceptible lag opening and closing the app drawer even after OC to 1500 and it was bugging me. I think the problem could have been one of the Samsung widgets.
I normally recommend loading a custom rom if you feel comfortable. I rooted my HTC Magic back in the early days of Android and have never looked back.

wahlis said:
I am getting tired of waiting for the stock 3.1 rom now so I am starting to think about using one of the custom roms.
Have there been any performance and function comparisons between the stock rom and the custom roms?
Or do you have any good arguments either way?
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You should go for 3.1 stock (official acer update), works like butter and fixes problems that custom roms still have (like cell stanby) unless they are based on 3.1 stock (I'm still waiting )
Update to 3.1 stock Acer Official Update
No wipe needed or acer recovery/cwm, you don't lose your data, but it's highly recommended to backup and use recovery/cwm, through again not necesary.
Here is a change log (what's new/changed) to see if it's worth, if you do update please share with me in that thread what's new and changed so we can inform, share and encourage pleople to update to 3.1, plus if you do it now you get new OTA Acer_ A500_4.010.30_COM_GEN1 (I sound like a salesman ) who knows for how long they will keep the update

Justray said:
You should go for 3.1 stock (official acer update), works like butter and fixes problems that custom roms still have (like cell stanby) unless they are based on 3.1 stock (I'm still waiting )
Update to 3.1 stock Acer Official Update
No wipe needed or acer recovery/cwm, you don't lose your data, but it's highly recommended to backup and use recovery/cwm, through again not necesary.
Here is a change log (what's new/changed) to see if it's worth, if you do update please share with me in that thread what's new and changed so we can inform, share and encourage pleople to update to 3.1, plus if you do it now you get new OTA Acer_ A500_4.010.30_COM_GEN1 (I sound like a salesman ) who knows for how long they will keep the update
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My question is,after read almost all pages of the threads about this;does this go for all devices?I have a emea_gen3..sorry if i'm being a Noob now.
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Thanks for all the advice. I think I'll wait a while longer for the stock now. It doesn't sound like the custom roms are the kind of miracle upgrades I got to my Hero and Desire phones yet.
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booze78 said:
My question is,after read almost all pages of the threads about this;does this go for all devices?I have a emea_gen3..sorry if i'm being a Noob now.
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Yes it works, I went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1, everything works fine, updated from .22 to .30 from OTA.
wahlis said:
Thanks for all the advice. I think I'll wait a while longer for the stock now. It doesn't sound like the custom roms are the kind of miracle upgrades I got to my Hero and Desire phones yet.
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Actually the update posted IS official, Acer one, right now those with that version are getting OTA .30 update, so as far as I know that's stock unless you mean out-of-the-box as stock.

i meant to say virtuous picasso seems to work without issues and tried to edit it after.

Justray said:
Yes it works, I went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1, everything works fine, updated from .22 to .30 from OTA.
Actually the update posted IS official, Acer one, right now those with that version are getting OTA .30 update, so as far as I know that's stock unless you mean out-of-the-box as stock.
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Yessss,it worked.Lost root only..
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booze78 said:
Yessss,it worked.Lost root only..
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and you can re-root
Please post here anything new you find, new issues, fixed issues, software and experience related please

Just don't forget to back up!

@Justray, you say : "Yes it works, I went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1, everything works fine, updated from .22 to .30 from OTA."
How do you procede to go from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1?
My machine is COM_GEN1 so I'm happy. My sister who got hers in Denmark is EMEA_GEN3 and is still stuck with firmware 1.x (Android 3.0.1)... Is there a step-by-step instructions for going to COM_GEN1 for her machine?
I suspect I can then download the latest firmware manually from : code.google.com/p/acer-a500/downloads/list or use OTA like my machine?
Thanks,
Gilles.

ggravier said:
@Justray, you say : "Yes it works, I went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1, everything works fine, updated from .22 to .30 from OTA."
How do you procede to go from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1?
My machine is COM_GEN1 so I'm happy. My sister who got hers in Denmark is EMEA_GEN3 and is still stuck with firmware 1.x (Android 3.0.1)... Is there a step-by-step instructions for going to COM_GEN1 for her machine?
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I too went from EMEA_GEN3 to COM_GEN1. Here is the basic low-down as to how I went about it:
* Install Acer Recovery from Market and use it to install clockworkmod.
* Download the COM_GEN1 ROM from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176632 thread.
* Use Acer ROM Decrypter to decrypt the .zip file and extract the update.zip from there.
* Rename the update.zip to something like e.g. AcerROMcomgen1.zip and copy it on your SD card. It's important that it is on the SD, not internal storage.
* Turn off your tablet, then turn it on while keeping the volume button pressed down until you see white text appear on the tablet screen's top-left corner.
* Use clockwordmod to first make a full backup for just-in-case. I really mean it: do a full backup. You never know if you might need it later!
* Then format cache, format data/factory reset, then install zip from SD.
* Reboot.
As for navigating in clockwordmod: you use the volume button to go up or down in menus, and power button to select the menu item.

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Updating help please - only seeing 3.1 as latest

Hey guys
just picked up my a500 (16gb) a few days ago
when it booted it came up with a quick "update" like thing on the boot screen
as soon as it had booted up i check the os and it was running 3.1
i clicked check for updates but it thinks 3.1 is the lastest
i had a google about and checked all the big forums but got nothing
I don't want to run a custom rom just yet, been and done that on my galaxy s
Cheers if you can help me out!
pipster11 said:
Hey guys
just picked up my a500 (16gb) a few days ago
when it booted it came up with a quick "update" like thing on the boot screen
as soon as it had booted up i check the os and it was running 3.1
i clicked check for updates but it thinks 3.1 is the lastest
i had a google about and checked all the big forums but got nothing
I don't want to run a custom rom just yet, been and done that on my galaxy s
Cheers if you can help me out!
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When I first got my A500 it took about a week before I got the 3.1 update..the weird part is I bought one for my brother at the same time and his got the update before mine did, even though I had been running mine for a few days before I gave his tablet to him.
I read that some devices were having trouble getting the OTA update, and had to manually push 3.1. Same might be true for 3.2.
KEEP IN MIND...
If you OTA to 3.2 you WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ROOT/FLASH CUSTOM ROMS!!!!!!
This is a known problem and has been so since 3.2 came out on the A500. Even if you root with 3.1 you will loose it with the 3.2 update. If you think/know you will eventually want to flash roms/want root access, just do it know. There are plent of roms running 3.2, and no real reason to run stock. You can always downgrade/flash stock if needed. Again, do not OTA to 3.2 if you want root access!
dam, well i just updated to 3.2 this morning using the the put it on an SD card and hold the power and volume method
I like the subtle changes but I'll probably make my way onto a custom rom when I get bored next
Does the method mentioned above work to go backwards?
And how come ppl are reporting running 3.2.1 but mine won't update to it?
pipster11 said:
dam, well i just updated to 3.2 this morning using the the put it on an SD card and hold the power and volume method
I like the subtle changes but I'll probably make my way onto a custom rom when I get bored next
Does the method mentioned above work to go backwards?
And how come ppl are reporting running 3.2.1 but mine won't update to it?
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See this thread when you're ready to go custom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
3.2.1 comes from custom roms, it hasn't been released for the Iconia yet. Pretty sure the roms are based on the Asus Transformer updates. I'm using thor2002's rom, very good one (tegraowners.com)
Good luck
tgtoys said:
See this thread when you're ready to go custom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
3.2.1 comes from custom roms, it hasn't been released for the Iconia yet. Pretty sure the roms are based on the Asus Transformer updates. I'm using thor2002's rom, very good one (tegraowners.com)
Good luck
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3.2.1 was released a couple of weeks ago in Australia. I had it on my tab but went custom and am now searching for a way back cheers.

Custom ROM -> ICS

Just wondering, if I were to flash to a custom rom, such as Thor... then a few months later ICS comes out for our tablets, what would the upgrade process entail?
I'm hesitant to try a custom rom, because when ICS finally comes I don't want there to be extra steps in order to get the update.
Anyone know how difficult/easy this is going to be? Will it involve having to flash back to stock first, then OTA to ICS?
TIA!
davanw said:
Just wondering, if I were to flash to a custom rom, such as Thor... then a few months later ICS comes out for our tablets, what would the upgrade process entail?
I'm hesitant to try a custom rom, because when ICS finally comes I don't want there to be extra steps in order to get the update.
Anyone know how difficult/easy this is going to be? Will it involve having to flash back to stock first, then OTA to ICS?
TIA!
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Not trying to be rude but honestly, if youre afraid of a few extra steps than rooting and android is not for you. I suggest an apple product.
But to answer your question, when official ICS comes out OTA Im sure devs will create custom roms that you can just flash. I mean we already have ICS ports in the works.
Why would you want crappy OTA ICS when you could have a faster, custom rom ICS .
jon-.- said:
Not trying to be rude but honestly, if youre afraid of a few extra steps than rooting and android is not for you. I suggest an apple product.
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Don't assume. I already have ICS running on my Galaxy S; I'm sure I've flashed and reflashed android devices just as much as anyone else here. It's not about being afraid. It's about convenience for a device I've come to rely on day-to-day.
Thanks for the post, anyways. But I'd still like to hear what the process would be to go from a custom rom to the offical OTA ICS.
davanw said:
Don't assume. I already have ICS running on my Galaxy S; I'm sure I've flashed and reflashed android devices just as much as anyone else here. It's not about being afraid. It's about convenience for a device I've come to rely on day-to-day.
Thanks for the post, anyways. But I'd still like to hear what the process would be to go from a custom rom to the offical OTA ICS.
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From what Ive read (search function), you can update from a custom rom but you will lose root.
davanw said:
Don't assume. I already have ICS running on my Galaxy S; I'm sure I've flashed and reflashed android devices just as much as anyone else here. It's not about being afraid. It's about convenience for a device I've come to rely on day-to-day.
Thanks for the post, anyways. But I'd still like to hear what the process would be to go from a custom rom to the offical OTA ICS.
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If u rely on this day to day, u do NOT want to flash an ICS rom yet. Not even close for day to day use.Stick with what u have and just be patient.
christianpeso said:
If u rely on this day to day, u do NOT want to flash an ICS rom yet. Not even close for day to day use.Stick with what u have and just be patient.
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I agree wait for the kinks to be worked out.
If you rely on this device pretty heavily, and you still want to get ICS when it comes out, I would just recommend flashing a custom ROM now that is known to be pretty stable. like you suggested, Thor's ROM seems to be a great one. It definitely improves the speed of the tablet and I have yet to come across any bugs that would inhibit my everyday use. Then, once developers have worked out a ROM for a relatively stable version of ICS, you shouldn't have any trouble switching to that and not worrying about the OTA updates.
davanw said:
Don't assume. I already have ICS running on my Galaxy S; I'm sure I've flashed and reflashed android devices just as much as anyone else here. It's not about being afraid. It's about convenience for a device I've come to rely on day-to-day.
Thanks for the post, anyways. But I'd still like to hear what the process would be to go from a custom rom to the offical OTA ICS.
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Well, if you're familiar with all that, then you already know how to flash an OEM ROM and would know you already knew how to do it.
can be a bit of a pain going back to stock ota updates. Depends on availability of your devices localized stock rom.( or being able to backup stock rom first). Took me about 5 days to find the right files and steps to get ota working again. Didnt help that i am a total newbie, the iconia is my first android device never flashed anything before except a pc bios. Do your research first and make sure you can go back instead of getting stuck. Here is a link to get you started http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155664 another thing when you go back to stock you also go to the back of the line in the update queue as well. I was on 3.2.1 went back to 3.1 got ota updates up to 3.2 but have not recieved 3.2.1 update again yet cheers.
blucmal said:
another thing when you go back to stock you also go to the back of the line in the update queue as well. I was on 3.2.1 went back to 3.1 got ota updates up to 3.2 but have not recieved 3.2.1 update again yet cheers.
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Now THAT is very interesting. Thanks!

[Q] K1 rooted 14_14 ROM

Hi
To be able to bypass the process of a flash to v13_13, open the backdoor, flash to 14_14 etc. can anyone point me to a rooted 14_14 rom?
In particular "K1_A301_14_14_120109_US"
Thanks
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13407-alpha-ideapad-k1-cwm-stock-rooted-rom-120109-build/
Although still in the alpha stage, I switched from using timmydean's rom to this one specifically so I could successfully run the 14_14 rom and keep my root. Nothing against timmydean and his work, this just worked easier and faster. Also this rom add cwm which is the only rom out currently that does this for the k1, from what I've seen.
Just reemeber that this is still just an alpha, so be sure to read the post fully. Hope this helps!
Thanks for posting the link Dueces99. I compiled the CWM and ROM that Deuces99 linked to. I just wanted to add that there is nothing alpha about the ROM, just CWM. The ROM is stock and rooted and has no bugs (Other than the ones the stock ROM has).
The reason I left the Alpha status is because backup/restore don't work in CWM, and there is currently no key combination to boot into recovery. You must boot to recovery using the included app/widget
Right, there is no physical key combo. associated to booting into Recovery, the rom atleast provides the means to boot into recovery (widget/app) which atleast leaves the option. I personally, have not had any issues at all with this rom, and love the fact that all the bloatware misc. 3rd party apps and some Lenovo apps were removed, which made the rom seem that much more responsive upon first boot IMO.
Glad to hear that was of some help to you, kinda surprised there hasnt been anyother spinoff roms from this, regardless of its released stage. Just how cut and dry it is with flashing the 2nd newest update with root, then simply flashing the 14_14 update through CWM and keeping root. That was my biggest hurdle following timmydean's guide (and still is) was keeping root once taking the update from Lenovo.
Just my 0.02
so all i need is to flash alpha 3 and latest update 120109 in order to be on a rooted 14_14 build? can someone confirm?
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prfstrkr said:
so all i need is to flash alpha 3 and latest update 120109 in order to be on a rooted 14_14 build? can someone confirm?
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Correct. After that you will be up to date and rooted.
Right, confirming with khanning88 flashing alpha 3 would be the 13_13 update. After flashing that, reboot into recovery via the Reboot Recovery app/widget included in the ROM, follow the instructions from there provided by the rootzwiki post and you'll be good to go with the latest 14_14 update. By far, the most cut-n-dry rooted ROM out there as far as I know. IMHO kinda deceiving that the ROM is listed as an Alpha (for CWM understandably) only because it's been extremely stable for me with nada one FC.
Wierd how an alpha build ROM is more stable than the OS that the K1 comes with...
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Wierd how an alpha build ROM is more stable than the OS that the K1 comes with...
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From what I understand, it's the same firmware as the stock Lenovo, so maybe a little bit of a placebo effect? The CWM ROM does take out all the built-in non-Google apps, so maybe that has something to do with it.
I hope Lenovo gets its act together and shares out the proper source code so that some good samaritan out there can build a stock Android ROM to run on the K1. I've been using it a bit on the 14_14 CWM firmware, and it's still not as good as the firmware I've experienced on the ASUS Transformer TF101 or the Acer Iconia A500. The biggest issue I've found with the Lenovo firmware is that there is a lag closing out of apps and going back to the launcher, sometimes to the point that a forceclose-wait window pops up. I've not experienced that on the Honeycomb ROMs of any of those other two devices, so I wonder if it's because of Lenovo's customizations to Honeycomb, like the ability to close apps from the multitasking sidebar. In that case, maybe a more vanilla version of Honeycomb won't have that problem. Don't get me wrong; I think it's a great feature that Lenovo added to the taskswitcher. But I'd rather not have it than have the operating system lag. I trust Android's memory management enough to not really need to go manually closing apps.
Right, im sure all the bloatware taken out from Lenovo had to have some effect on overall performance. As far as stability between the two, maybe I meant to say "Wierd how an alpha build ROM feels more stable than the OS that the K1 comes with..."
But placebo effect or not, I've experienced zero issues with this rom even though I probably don't do near as much as other K1 owners with their tab. Lenovo does need to fix this, or preferably just provide full source to all...
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Correct. After that you will be up to date and rooted.
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Thank you so much! I am finally rooted with 14_14 with all the bloatware removed
prfstrkr said:
Thank you so much! I am finally rooted with 14_14 with all the bloatware removed
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Welcome, glad you like it.
P.S. I should have an update ready in a couple of days....... and this one is a BIG update
I'm glad I remembered to check back on my thread!
I'll be a rooting tomorrow morning
Thanks Dueces99
omg ... plz tell me it's ICS
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Welcome, glad you like it.
P.S. I should have an update ready in a couple of days....... and this one is a BIG update
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Thank you so much, khanning, for all of your efforts. As I mentioned in this thread http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaPad-Slate-Tablets/K1-not-booting-after-update/td-p/548285 , your CWM firmware is the only effective workaround at the moment for those of us whose K1's are inexplicably locking up with "unrecoverable bootloader" errors to get onto the latest firmware.
We still aren't completely out of the woods though. In post 44 of your rootzwiki thread http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13407-al...-120109-build/page__view__findpost__p__390175 and post 47 http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13407-al...-120109-build/page__view__findpost__p__392343 , the users kennethrkennedy and aig787 both confirm that the "unrecoverable bootloader error" can still come back with updates, even through your CWM recovery. With your Alpha3 and your 120109.zip update, you managed to avoid updating whatever it is that causes the "unrecoverable bootloader error." This is my long rambling plea that, whatever you did there, you will continue to do for the latest update you are working on, so that those of us with these K1's that are prone to the "unrecoverable bootloader errors" can join the fun too. Thanks!

How doi I get to ICS?

In December, when I picked up my TF101, I used Razorclaw + CWM to root it. I also found some kind of an update here that I applied that allowed me to overlock the device .. I believe it was a form of kernel patch?
I would like to go to ICS. I need to be rooted after ICS though, we have a VPN client for our SonicWall firewall that requires the OS to be rooted. I would also prefer an ICS port that supports overclocking like my current build .. it's been incredibly useful to clock up in to the 1400s as it makes everything run so much better.
Is it possible to upgrade to the stock ICS, root it easily and patch it to allow for overclocking at this time? If so, could someone direct me to a guide that shows what the easiest way to do this is, since I already have CWM in (although can't remember how to get it to come up on boot .. doh)?
Thanks =)
Wait till Asus fix the problems.
Yea dont install ICS, it would be like pouring water over your PC
It might seem fun at the time, but its really not a good idea
I would say it is a very bad idea. Avoid it. I did it and literally my tablet is unusable now because of
Slow response
Random rebooted
Random no message crash of apps like gmail.
Dead slow,app response
white screen on app loading
It is now embarrassing infront of ipad users.
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spinaldex said:
In December, when I picked up my TF101, I used Razorclaw + CWM to root it. I also found some kind of an update here that I applied that allowed me to overlock the device .. I believe it was a form of kernel patch?
I would like to go to ICS. I need to be rooted after ICS though, we have a VPN client for our SonicWall firewall that requires the OS to be rooted. I would also prefer an ICS port that supports overclocking like my current build .. it's been incredibly useful to clock up in to the 1400s as it makes everything run so much better.
Is it possible to upgrade to the stock ICS, root it easily and patch it to allow for overclocking at this time? If so, could someone direct me to a guide that shows what the easiest way to do this is, since I already have CWM in (although can't remember how to get it to come up on boot .. doh)?
Thanks =)
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Ignore the fear mongering posters.
Tons of people are using ICS without issues. But yes, some do experience issues.
Since you have CWM, you can directly flash the pre-rooted stock ICS. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552303 This is the latest 9.2.1.17 version.
If you want to overclock, you can flash custom ICS ROMs that support overclocking. There's only 2 at the moment, Team EOS and Codename Android.
Frequently updated custom ICS roms such as Team EOS and CM9 tend to be very stable and have fixes that stock ICS doesn't have, so flash a custom ROM instead of the stock ROM if you are concerned about possible issues.
As always, do factory reset + clear cache + clear dalvik cache within CWM before flashing the stock ROM or any custom ROM.
To be safe, I would update your CWM to the latest version here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213723 before flashing anything.
horndroid said:
Ignore the fear mongering posters.
Tons of people are using ICS without issues. But yes, some do experience issues.
Since you have CWM, you can directly flash the pre-rooted stock ICS. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552303 This is the latest 9.2.1.17 version.
If you want to overclock, you can flash custom ICS ROMs that support overclocking. There's only 2 at the moment, Team EOS and Codename Android.
Frequently updated custom ICS roms such as Team EOS and CM9 tend to be very stable and have fixes that stock ICS doesn't have, so flash a custom ROM instead of the stock ROM if you are concerned about possible issues.
As always, do factory reset + clear cache + clear dalvik cache within CWM before flashing the stock ROM or any custom ROM.
To be safe, I would update your CWM to the latest version here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213723 before flashing anything.
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Terrible advise.
Why tell someone to update to an OS that has literally flooded XDA and other forums, and ASUS's facebook page with people saying their TF is no longer usable ?
For the sake of waiting for a working update, why suggest doing something that could very well turn their TF into a buggy POS ?
There is nothing in ICS that is worth the risk
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Terrible advise.
Why tell someone to update to an OS that has literally flooded XDA and other forums, and ASUS's facebook page with people saying their TF is no longer usable ?
For the sake of waiting for a working update, why suggest doing something that could very well turn their TF into a buggy POS ?
There is nothing in ICS that is worth the risk
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There are just as many people, probably much much more, who aren't having problems.
Besides, have you tried any custom ROMs? If not, stfu.
I would no say my TF is unusable under ICS.
It works fine, apart from not so random reboots, as it reboots mainly in the morning when I wake it up form the night...
maybe the Sleeping Beauty requires a kiss from the Prince ...
By the way, it used to be really better under HoneyComb, I wish i could have refused that damned firmware upgrade ...
If I were you I'd rather wait as an other poster said for a really proven Stable version from Asus
Nickola
horndroid said:
There are just as many people, probably much much more, who aren't having problems.
Besides, have you tried any custom ROMs? If not, stfu.
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Who the F are you telling to stfu ?
Of course I have tried custom ROMs you doosh, I just prefer to have a stock TF, well, I did until ASUS decided to send out buggy sh**
*Detection* said:
Who the F are you telling to stfu ?
Of course I have tried custom ROMs you doosh, I just prefer to have a stock TF, well, I did until ASUS decided to send out buggy sh**
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If you are using one of the better custom ICS roms and still having such bad issues, the problem is you and your apps since those AOSP roms aren't even based on Asus's ICS.
The OP has root and CWM, and wants to overclock. So how was it a bad advice to recommend a custom ICS rom?
Just because you are having issues, doesn't mean everyone else will.
I've never had any issues at all and I just got done testing like 5 different ROMs. No issues whatsoever. Probably because I do it correctly and do a full wipe including format /system before I flash anything.
I've got issues on Stock and I did a full wipe using voldn+power method and this was before I rooted. I also lost sound randomly on Stock, and the custom kernels I still get reboots but my sound for the main part does work.
So, if the OP needs their tablet to work correctly then wait, if it's not that important to them and they don't need for day to day tasks then take a chance, you might get lucky or you might be causing yourself a headache, up to you.
horndroid said:
If you are using one of the better custom ICS roms and still having such bad issues, the problem is you and your apps since those AOSP roms aren't even based on Asus's ICS.
The OP has root and CWM, and wants to overclock. So how was it a bad advice to recommend a custom ICS rom?
Just because you are having issues, doesn't mean everyone else will.
I've never had any issues at all and I just got done testing like 5 different ROMs. No issues whatsoever. Probably because I do it correctly and do a full wipe including format /system before I flash anything.
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How is the problem me when I am doing everything the "ASUS way" ?
The problem is ASUS and their code.
If you read the OP's actual post, you will see this line
"Is it possible to upgrade to the stock ICS"
And if you want to go even further into it, your line "Probably because I do it correctly and do a full wipe including format /system before I flash anything"
I don't think you can get a cleaner flash than NVFLASH, which is how I always flash my ROMs

[Q] sluggish out of the box performance

Hello TPT community,
I Just got this tablet mainly because of the included digitizer and was wondering if anyone could give me a guideline on how to speed things up for this tablet. The tablet came with honeycomb 3.1 included and I am finding it pretty sluggish and unresponsive in general tasks. I went into settings to do a software update but it seems there is no 4.0 update available. There doesn't seem to be a toggle for pen only input in the settings either. Is the normal process for flashing a new Rom to root, then install CWM, and flash Roms?
I'm kind of a n00b here, but that is the right process in general.
For you, there should be a 4.0 update, but you might have to try a few times. After you are running ICS (4.0) you can root and load Koshu's JB rom.
Aren't there problems with rooting ICS?
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Absolutely no problms rooting ics
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Okay well I went into settings, about tablet, system updates, check for updates. It always says "your system is up to date" even though I know I'm on 3.1
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Lets see if we can figure out why it won't update. In settings -> about tablet, what is listed for model number, android version, and kernel version?
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Found this - http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPa...ystem-updates-OTAs-not-installing/ta-p/713571
It might help... I'm also searching for a manual download for ota3 or ota 3.5 from lenovo that you can load in recovery.
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Sorry, I need more coffee...
Is this a wifi only tablet or a 3g tablet? What region is it?
I attached the info in a picture. I dont know how to find out what region or wifi/3g it is though. I don't have a sim to test it. I got it from here: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7473177&CatId=6845
It is wifi only, also found this interesting thread - http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-slate-tablets/thinkpad-1839-update/td-p/975085
Apparently the Tiger Direct refurb is a custom SKU and is SUPPOSEDLY not upgradeable... tho I would think there are ways around that. At least now I know what we are working with here.
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It is wifi only, also found this interesting thread - http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-slate-tablets/thinkpad-1839-update/td-p/975085
Apparently the Tiger Direct refurb is a custom SKU and is SUPPOSEDLY not upgradeable... tho I would think there are ways around that. At least now I know what we are working with here.
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So any ideas on how to update to ICS? The ROM in android development section says it requires me to have ICS first.
Unfortunately no... sorry. I'm still a n00b with android devices. Maybe someone with a little more knowledge will chime in now that we know what we are dealing with.
You can root your tablet and go straight to Jelly Bean 4.1.1 or 4.1.2. It's fast and cool! The only little bug is with wifi!
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troemer said:
You can root your tablet and go straight to Jelly Bean 4.1.1 or 4.1.2. It's fast and cool! The only little bug is with wifi!
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A wifi bug is pretty big. The only connectivity mine has is wifi
I tried to install the adb drivers so I can root it but it says the driver has been tampered with so I can't install. I am on windows 8
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@troemer: Not sure if you noticed it or not, but in Koshu's cm10 thread it says:
Requirements
This build uses the Lenovo ICS kernel, you need to upgrade to stock ICS first (Make sure you keep root!)
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This is why he is trying to get the ICS update.
Daedalus_ said:
A wifi bug is pretty big. The only connectivity mine has is wifi
I tried to install the adb drivers so I can root it but it says the driver has been tampered with so I can't install. I am on windows 8
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The wifi bug actually isn't that big, just set wifi to always on like suggested. As far as the tampered drivers error, you will probably have to : a) search for a way to install unsigned drivers on win8
or b) use a winxp/win7 pc.
Be careful tho... flashing after having stock ICS is needed for a reason.
Flashing what?
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Flashing what?
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Based on this:
Daedalus_ said:
A wifi bug is pretty big. The only connectivity mine has is wifi
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I was worried you were gonna try to just jump straight to JB.
Hey there,
well one way is to try flashing the upgrade directly but like da_reeseboy already mentioned, there is a high possibility that it will fail. Only other way would be to flash the bootloader directly (that most likely the part, that keeps the JB kernel from booting on non ICS kernels) but there is a high bricking chance and eventually the firmware for some of the hardware needs to be updated, too, to work properly.
It looks like there's hope - this guy has the same weird software version as you - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37487649&postcount=6. He used the directions in that thread to upgrade to ICS.
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Full thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37487649#post37487649
Koshu said:
Hey there,
well one way is to try flashing the upgrade directly but like da_reeseboy already mentioned, there is a high possibility that it will fail. Only other way would be to flash the bootloader directly (that most likely the part, that keeps the JB kernel from booting on non ICS kernels) but there is a high bricking chance and eventually the firmware for some of the hardware needs to be updated, too, to work properly.
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Just trying to think outside the box (noob style), what if he:
1. Installed CWM
2. Restored a clean 0075 nandroid from someone here on xda
3. Restored stock recovery
4. Checked for OTA to ICS
In my mind the software version is what is holding him back from updates, so I'm thinking that restoring an 0075 nandroid will put him in a position to get the update correctly... but I am still new to this so I could be WAY off.
da_reeseboy said:
Just trying to think outside the box (noob style), what if he:
1. Installed CWM
2. Restored a clean 0075 nandroid from someone here on xda
3. Restored stock recovery
4. Checked for OTA to ICS
In my mind the software version is what is holding him back from updates, so I'm thinking that restoring an 0075 nandroid will put him in a position to get the update correctly... but I am still new to this so I could be WAY off.
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Thanks for still helping! Do I need a special CWM? I just root and install CWM from the market? Honeycomb is really annoying because some apps I use are only for newer androids such as Hulu plus.

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