[Q] Best _vs_ Street Figher on Nook Color? (two player) - Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm guessing probably at least a few people have found the solution to my question, if there is an easy answer: which combination of emulator + ROM gives full speed gameplay for two players (w/bluetooth gamepads) in Street Fighter on the Nook Color (or, Nook Tablet)?
So, I've tried several emulators and several different versions of Street Fighter... I have not yet found one that both runs at full speed and supports two players .
FPSE w/Street Fighter Alpah 3 looks good and supports configuring the 2nd player's controller, but, it has a little slowdown on my Nook Color (which is running CM 7.1).
Tiger Arcade seems to support various versions of Street Fighter at good speed, but, I can't seem to find how to configure the second player's controller (WTF?)?
Mame4Droid seems to have very limited ROM support, I was hoping to have more options than just the couple of older Street Fighter II ROMs that it supports. I will go back to this emu and see how the performance is now that I've got both Sixaxis controllers and run into problems with those other two emus. Will update later...
EDIT: It looks like Mame4Android supports two players and runs at least a couple of Street Fighter II versions reasonably fast (still not a steady 60 FPS however), but, I'd really like some more recent version such as one of the "Alphas" or "Marvel vs Capcom".
Once CM9 "beta" is realeased for Nook Tablet, perhaps that will be enough of a speed boost to run the Street Fighter Alpha games at near steady 60 FPS (presuming the Bluetooth support is adequate by then)?

Well, I hope this works: I'm waiting for the 1.2GB "SF_IV_DATA" folder to finish copying to the SDCARD on my Nook... Maybe I should have taken the SDCARD out instead of copying over wireless (SAMBA) 'cause man this is slow...
Quite pleased I found the 600x1024 apk... Not sure if I need to install Chainfire?
Update: I found that I had to:
1) Titanium Backup restore "App+Data"
2) Then install the 1024x600 resolution one (as the restored app was wrong resolution)
Then, when I got an error message about the data being corrupted I checked to see what files in the SF_IV_DATA folder had been modified (sort by date) - only 1, good news! I just had to re-copy the res.dat file and now the game runs.
But, I've got the "white background" issue and white boxes... Looks like it won't work w/o Chainfire. Next to investigate is if Chainfire 3d is working on nook tablet yet (don't want to temp brick it and have to re do the whole root & setup all my apps again).

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step by step psx4droid how i got it working

How I got psx4droid working on my htc desire hd..
I know there are already guides for this but I found them a bit confusing, so heres how I done/do it.
1. download psx4droid from market
2. download rombuddy from market
3. download astro from market
4. in astro create a folder called “..playstaytion games” in sdcard (I put the two dots in front to put it to the top of the list so it makes it easier to find later)
5. on your pc search the interwebnet for scph1001.bin, download this file and save it to the dektop so its also easy to find.
6. Connect your phone to your pc and save the scph1001.bin file to sdcard/psxoid (cant remember if I created this folder or if it came with the psx4droid app, if its not there then create the folder using astro in sdcard)
7. go into psx4droid app and make the scph1001.bin file your bios.
8. use rombuddy (with wifi) to download one of the many games listed, eg “driver-you are the wheel man”, click download (this takes about 20 mins so be patient) ive also found some games havnt worked.
9. Once its downloaded use astro and go to sdcard/roms/psx- there you will find your new game (one is a brown box which Is zipped and one is a white rectangle which is unzipped and ready to go)
10. press and hold the unzipped file, click edit then move. (these dont have to be moved but i do it to keep them together) you can also delete the zipped (brown box) file as it is no longer needed.
11. Now go back to your ..playstation games folder, open it, press menu, edit, paste.
12. Now your game should be ready to play, all you do to play is open astro find the ..playstation games folder click your game then click psx4droid in the pop-up menu and play.
hope this helps, like i said im a novice so might have missed bits or done things backwards but it works for me.
thanks
A fine post. Thanks for sharing with us fellow XDA members who've dreamed about psx4droid but haven't actually got round to trying it out, this eases it for me
I had no problems installing psxdroid, but it runs with a low framerate, at least RE nemesis on my dhd..
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
Agreed but it seems to run smoother on other android devices over the DHD, get a steady 30+ FPS but the picture still seems to stutter.
I managed to install the whole thing by downloading the files via the web browser on the phone, so you can cancel out the connecting it to PC part of the tutorial .
Good job putting up a guide however, I'm sure it will help someone along the way!
xp79 said:
Agreed but it seems to run smoother on other android devices over the DHD, get a steady 30+ FPS but the picture still seems to stutter.
I managed to install the whole thing by downloading the files via the web browser on the phone, so you can cancel out the connecting it to PC part of the tutorial .
Good job putting up a guide however, I'm sure it will help someone along the way!
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yeah i suppose downloading the bios file via phone rether than pc would make no difference but thats just how i done it.
ive found that tony hawks pro skater 4 isnt too bad to play but dave mirra bmx and street fighter have been very slow. any tips for speeding them up?
thanks
I got some extra FPS by playing with the settings such as frame skip, disabling sound and refresh rate on high usage games such as MGS and FF7.
Sigh...I miss the days of FPSECE on the HD2...oh well, i'm sure the DHD should be able to work faster, my HD2 used to get a steady 60fps on Spyro 3 without any stuttering...it was heaven I tell you! Overclocking the Desire HD to 1.3ghz while playing should help quite a bit. I don't know what else, though. Unless killing background processes, and the like. I don't understand how the HD2 could outperform the DHD...unless it's bad software code optimisation and the OS causing performance issues...
It helps, when setting max refreshrate to 30 or 40 fps, when games stutter.
Why its so slow? dunno, bad coding i think!
it work well on my DHD
Desire HD problems
All games seem to run slow on my DHD. The fps is usually around 50-60 but it just seems to run so sluggishly, it makes all games unplayable. I have tried messing around with the various different settings and killing every program but PSX4droid but it seems not have no effect on the performance. Has anyone got any solution at all?
Thanks,

[Q] What's the best PlayStation emulator for Play [and how to set it up]?

Hello could someone please tell me the best PSX emulator for the Xperia Play and give detailed instructions on setting it up so that it runs smoothly? I have tried one, FPse, but the sound does not work properly. psx4droid doesn't work at all [the latest version 3.0.6,] it just keeps asking me to force close when I try to load a rom. Please give the name of the emulator and the version and how to set it up for the Xperia Play.
the best emulator so far is FPSe, check on the Apps & Themes section, there is a sticky with all playable roms.
FPse.
Mine works perfect. No sound or framerate choppiness at all.
How did you set up FPse ? Mine has poor sound, it doesn't seem to be playing all the sound only some parts.
Solved the sound issues. So in FPse i went into "system" and unchecked Mdec Acceleration, Gte Acceleration and HLE mode. Now I hear all the audio though at some points the audio slows down a bit.
jdz7t8 said:
Solved the sound issues. So in FPse i went into "system" and unchecked Mdec Acceleration, Gte Acceleration and HLE mode. Now I hear all the audio though at some points the audio slows down a bit.
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I have -
Country - USA (i live in the UK though but i d/l USA games. This might make a difference to smoothness as the timing of the games is 50 mhz or 60 mhz and could account for some choppy sound)
Mdec - On
Gte - On
Fast Booting - On
HLE - Off
Boost Mode - Off
No Sound - Off
Spu Sync - Off
Framelimiter - On
Frameskip - None
Screen Filtering - Off
Screensize - Full Screen
Fast Overlay - Off
Screen Orientation - Landscape (turning off auto in theory could speed emulation up)
Print fps - Off
Invert colors - Off
Some games didnt work very well. Tony Hawks 2 had very glitchy graphical errors (or might of been THPS 1, cant remember), and Colin Mcrae 2 grinded to a halt.
Here is what i have tried though -
Time Crisis (touch screen as light gun, dam awesome)
Demolition Derby
Rampage Universal Tour
Point Blank (touch screen as light gun, dam awesome)
Strider 2
Die Hard Trilogy
All of them run flawlessly. No graphical glitched. Now sound stuttering. (and i mean none at all, not even a tiny hiccup).
I have rooted my phone, taken away lots of bloatware. Maybe this helps, maybe not.
N64 emulator sound skips for me alot. fpse none though.
Hey man mine is rooted also, you said you took off bloatware, could you go into detail? I want to take off stuff but I do not want to "brick" the phone because I don't know how I would get it back working.
Check out this thread for removing bloatware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046699
Man I don't think it's actually possible to get this damn emulator playing the sound properly, it keeps slowing down messing up the sounds. sucks man.
Sorry to bump an old thread..
But does the phone need to be rooted to work with emulators - to eventually play psx games ?
and what is the actualy process on loading these old school games to the xperia play?
Especially looking forward to colin mcrae..
plz help
Thanks
No.
No root is needed for emu. In phone .it is just a normal app..
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Mr_Rabo said:
Sorry to bump an old thread..
But does the phone need to be rooted to work with emulators - to eventually play psx games ?
and what is the actualy process on loading these old school games to the xperia play?
Especially looking forward to colin mcrae..
plz help
Thanks
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No you don't need to be rooted.
If you're looking to use FPSe, here's how to get playing your games:
1.) Buy and install FPSe.
2.) Open up the app and it will ask you to load a BIOS. Google is your one and only friend when searching for the PSX BIOS.
3.) After that, you can load your game. So rip your own .iso from games you own. Or again, Google is your friend for this.
4.) Then you can load the game and stay playing.
You might have to change a few settings to get the game and emulator performing better, that's basically trial and error.

[Q] Number of question; Games, Memory, gameloft

Hi all, first thread but feel its required.
I was a webos user before moving to Android, i jumped because i loved the concept, i love my xperia play for the main reason its a phone and a gaming one at that.
I had rooted my play using gingerbreak but since updating its gone ( i except that) I do not want to root 2.3.3. by unlocking the bootloader as i'm uncomfortable with the process.
Baring that in mind can any light be shed on my issues below?
My issues:
Everygame i have played seems to jerk, is anyone else experiencing this?
1. Games - I use a load of tools like free memory Cleaner, Accleaner etc, which all do a good job but my games still jerk. (is this a ram leak issue?)
Is there any apps better for this purpose.
2. Memory - its a problem ( i have over 25 games plus apps) i use Apps 2 SD which again does a good job however i have 37mb free on my internal memory.
Again any apps better for this purpose
3. Gameloft - I have many gameloft games (hate the system and the company but thats another thread) my issue is, is there a website which tells you the current version of each game?
Updates don't always pop up when starting a game, a few times I've had to reinstall a game to get an update (latest being Rainbow 6). I ask cause my version of Nova 2 which is 1.0.2 still does not work but i don't know if this is the latest version and i am receiving no pop up.
4. Play launcher - Seeing some videos of plays in america shows playstation 1 games in the xperia play launcher, is this possible in the uk? or is there an update coming?
would like this alot better.
Any help is much appreciated.
Blonqe
1. Games - I use a load of tools like free memory Cleaner, Accleaner etc, which all do a good job but my games still jerk. (is this a ram leak issue?)
You may have a cheap memory card. You may want to buy a bigger and better one anyway.
Is there any apps better for this purpose.
2. Memory - its a problem ( i have over 25 games plus apps) i use Apps 2 SD which again does a good job however i have 37mb free on my internal memory.
I use the same app. There is a better one but you need to be rooted. I think it is called Titanium or something.
3. Gameloft - I have many gameloft games (hate the system and the company but thats another thread) my issue is, is there a website which tells you the current version of each game?
Market games can be updated through the market. Gameloft games update when you launch them.
Updates don't always pop up when starting a game, a few times I've had to reinstall a game to get an update (latest being Rainbow 6). I ask cause my version of Nova 2 which is 1.0.2 still does not work but i don't know if this is the latest version and i am receiving no pop up.
4. Play launcher - Seeing some videos of plays in america shows playstation 1 games in the xperia play launcher, is this possible in the uk? or is there an update coming?
In Canada we have a PSX launcher called pocket. It looks like the Playstation one but is foe PSX games. It is very stupid to have 2 launchers.

The Impossible Game on the Nook Simple Touch

Greetings, nookies!
Gone are the days of Angry Birds being the only playable game on our Nook Simple Touch devices. I have found that The Impossible Game by FlukeDude, one of the most fun, minimalistic and rage-inducing games I've ever played (which isn't saying much ), works remarkably well on my rooted Nook Simple Touch with GlowLight (see full specs in my sig), which means that you can play it, too!
Acquiring the game
The Impossible Game costs merely a dollar on the Play Store (you can get it here), so for those of you who have Gapps installed on your Nook Touch, installing the game will be a piece of cake. However, for you who do not have Gapps (like myself), getting the app is a little harder. The way I did it is like so: a) Buy the app using your Google account on your PC. b) Get on your rooted Android phone or tablet (in my case, a Nexus 7) and refresh it so the app is delivered and installed to the device. c) ADB pull the .apk from the /data/app directory in your rooted phone/tablet. d) ADB push that .apk to the /sdcard directory of your Nook. e) Lastly, open your file explorer and install the app.
Playing the game
A rooted device and the NoRefresh app are required to play this game. Gameplay is simple - you are a gray (red in the real game, but everything's gray on Nooks!) square moving along a flat plane to your right, attempting to jump on and over obstacles in the form of triangles, squares and pits in order to reach the end of the level. Triangles kill you if you run into them or jump on top of them, pits kill you if you fall on them, and squares only kill you if you run into them. The part that makes it so rage-inducing is that every time you hit an obstacle and die, you are reset to the very beginning of the track.
Controls are simple, too - tapping anywhere on the screen makes your square jump. A fair warning, though; there is a small lag, so make sure to tap the screen just before you want the square to jump. Also, if you want to jump multiple times in a row, press and hold your finger on the screen.
Another quick tip: I've found that the game displays best on NoRefresh's highest or "whitest" contrast setting.
One more hint, this game sucks up your battery very, very fast, so I only play it when my Nook's plugged in to charge.
Soundtrack
The game is synchronized to a fantastic soundtrack when audio works, but since most of our Nooks can't do sound, the soundtrack can't be used. Thankfully, I'm providing a download link for the soundtrack which can be played during gameplay using an MP3 Player or PC (if you can be bothered to do that). Just make sure to stop and restart the track each time you die.
In my opinion, the fun of this game is greatly improved when the soundtrack is playing along with it, so I'd highly recommend trying it out!
YouTube video
In this video, I play a small section of the game for you to use as an example.
Hope you all enjoy!
Regards,
Nookie

Games YOU are playing that work WELL on the MOJO! And some that don't...

There's a couple of threads around that are a bit dated now. I'm looking for people to hopefully post up the games that are working good on the MOJO.
I'm hoping also that you could please post up your favourite games, but also which ROM you are running. One or two don't seem to cross the divide so well, and games that work OK on one ROM won't necessarily work on another.
Working on CM 12.1 [PLEASE NOTE: All my apps are tested fullscreen where appropriate- Settings/Display/Expanded Desktop - select Hide Both] -
Top TV Launcher - so much better than the default CM/Android interface once you figure it out - perfect for the MOJO imho
Emulators all working perfectly (Retroarch, Mupen64+ AE/FZ, .EMU apps, MAME etc)
Bloo Kid 2 - works pretty much perfectly, but you have to switch to mouse mode to exit the options screen.
Sword of Xolan - perfect really
Riptide 2 - the same
Sonic 4 Episode 2: THD version - perfect
Sonic the Hedgehog - brilliant, no problems
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - the same
Sonic CD - hmm, OK but can't seem to remove the touchscreen overlay - works though
Sine Mora - perfect
Zen Pinball - perfect
R-Type - the same
Super Soccer Champs - Very good again but a bit tricky to navigate the menus. Great game though
GTA: Vice City - just brilliant
Splash: Underwater Sanctuary - works fine on CM 12.1
Cordy - Works OK, you can only use analogue stick for movement and menu is a bit clunky, but can be played
Cordy 2 - Again works well, D-pad works and in game navigation OK, but sometimes doesn't respond to buttons on level select
Gunslugs 2 - Perfect
Red Ball - reported as working fine on CM 12.1
Rayman Fiesta Run - for lord only knows what reason, this is working now on CM 12.1. :/
Rayman Adventures - PROMOTED - working again after recent update. Good, it's a great game on the MOJO.
Cyclone 2000 - working perfectly.
Badland - Fully supported and perfect.
Reaper - Working perfectly.
Fast Like a Fox - works very well indeed
The Deer God - works great with the CTRLR!
Limbo - works perfectly apart from some menu items need the pointer on - but in game it's brilliant
Oceanhorn - Implemented perfectly and a great game. I bought the full version fyi.
Oddworld: Strangers' Wrath - yep, perfect.
Half Life 2 - working perfectly as per 1Besik
Portal - working perfectly as per 1Besik
Rochard - working perfectly as per 1Besik
Lost Echo - working perfectly as per 1Besik
Unkilled - working perfectly as per 1Besik
Sideloaded:
Maldita Castilla - no problems
L'Abbaye Des Morts - the one on the Play store doesn't respond. The Ouya one from Locomalito works but has to be exited via Home button
Gaurodan - Locomalito - works perfectly
A Game A Week.com - JNK's games seem to be working fine from (here).
Alien Bastards - sideloaded with OUYA .apk - working great
Echoes+ - Sideoloaded with OUYA .apk - same - excellent game!
Donkey-Me - Sideloaded with OUYA .apk - works but doesn't create the proper game icon.
Super Crate Box - Sideloaded with OUYA .apk - working great!
Lao's Quest - download from here. Top homage to Rick Dangerous and bastard hard (but fun)! Grab the Android .apk there.
Not working:
Castle of Illusion - sadly no response to CTRLR despite reviews stating controller compatible
Giana Sisters - Nope, again seemingly not responsive to CTRLR but also cannot be navigated via mouse option - works on Remix though
Shadow Blade - Sadly nope. Touch only
Sonic 4 Episode 1 - Not really doable. Jump with R3??? Mouse only navigation
Gulag - Sideloaded with OUYA .apk - no response to controller at all
Twin Tiger Shark - Sideloaded with OUYA .apk - not working. One from Play Store works but only with mouse mode - not ideal.
Hungry Shark Evolution - Not working at all. Doesn't recognise the controller.
A lot of these are indie type games which I do love, and I'm always on the lookout for more. But I'd also like to know of larger scale games too that work on CM 12.1. I'd really appreciate if you could post up and let us know your working favourites and the ones to avoid. Thanks, and sorry for the long post.
EDIT: Trying to keep this up to date as I discover games. Noticing that just because it's in Tegrazone that does NOT mean it will work here. There are loads of examples of games that just won't work, and one or two that do but are a poor or scruffy experience.
My better half enjoys Splash: Underwater Sanctuary, it runs fine on the MOJO.
kevinthefixer said:
My better half enjoys Splash: Underwater Sanctuary, it runs fine on the MOJO.
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Not seen that one! Thanks Kev, I'll update my post with it, and another I played recently - Cordy.
http://mojo.madcatz.com/ftgames.php
MD's page has a list of games that are compatible with the MOJO (CTRLR to be precise). You've already mentioned some of them. I think this list is the only thing for the MOJO that Mad Catz seems to update once every while.
I also use the TegraZone app to see new games that have controller ability. The icon appears right next to the titles. Haven't tried games that are specifically mapped for the Shield controller though.
AndroidSupaFan said:
http://mojo.madcatz.com/ftgames.php
MD's page has a list of games that are compatible with the MOJO (CTRLR to be precise). You've already mentioned some of them. I think this list is the only thing for the MOJO that Mad Catz seems to update once every while.
I also use the TegraZone app to see new games that have controller ability. The icon appears right next to the titles. Haven't tried games that are specifically mapped for the Shield controller though.
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Well, I've seen that list before, and to be honest it was part of the reason I wanted to create a new post here. A lot of those don't work on CM 12.1, or seem to have been affected adversely by running CM 12.1. Rayman Fiesta Run doesn't work for example, where it did on stock and Remix. Cordy is another that seems to work, but isn't a great experience on CM 12.1.
People using the MOJO are using different OS's, and I thought it could be a good idea to get people's experiences across them in one place if and where possible. Thanks for the heads up on the TegraZone app.
Red Ball works fine. Most of the games that are also on the Shield seem to work.
Could somebody, anybody really, please try Rayman Adventures and report their experience here for me? I don't get how one day it works and then the next *poof*.
It works on initial run, you can play a level or two. But when you exit and return to the game later, the main screen hangs and then crashes back to the desktop for me. I just can't fathom it and it's driving me crackers! I've tried reinstalling, deleting the cache etc, wiping my SD card in case there's a config file somewhere, enabling/disabling fullscreen. I don't get it.
It was fine the other day!
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Could somebody, anybody really, please try Rayman Adventures and report their experience here for me? I don't get how one day it works and then the next *poof*.
It works on initial run, you can play a level or two. But when you exit and return to the game later, the main screen hangs and then crashes back to the desktop for me. I just can't fathom it and it's driving me crackers! I've tried reinstalling, deleting the cache etc, wiping my SD card in case there's a config file somewhere, enabling/disabling fullscreen. I don't get it.
It was fine the other day!
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Right after it crashes, see if you can locate a file called last.kmsg on the MOJO. IIRC it should be in /var/log but I've never checked on the MOJO, and I can't right this moment. Anyway if you can post it up here, either as attachment or open as text and copy/paste. No guarantees of course but maybe it'll tell us what's going on. My first guess is insufficient RAM.
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Right after it crashes, see if you can locate a file called last.kmsg on the MOJO. IIRC it should be in /var/log but I've never checked on the MOJO, and I can't right this moment. Anyway if you can post it up here, either as attachment or open as text and copy/paste. No guarantees of course but maybe it'll tell us what's going on. My first guess is insufficient RAM.
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Thanks for that. I'll give it a go later and post back.
Hungry Shark Evolution will not recognize the controller. The game installs and boots up fine but I can't get it to recognize the controller. Im on CM12 anyone had any luck?
I know it works on my Shield just fine
Sent from my Sammy S6 using Revolution 1.0
mattkilla420 said:
Hungry Shark Evolution will not recognize the controller. The game installs and boots up fine but I can't get it to recognize the controller. Im on CM12 anyone had any luck?
I know it works on my Shield just fine
Sent from my Sammy S6 using Revolution 1.0
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Not that I think it'll do much good, but you might try e-mailing the developers. Most of these games are either going to work or no, there isn't much we mortals can do about it.
mattkilla420 said:
Hungry Shark Evolution will not recognize the controller. The game installs and boots up fine but I can't get it to recognize the controller. Im on CM12 anyone had any luck?
I know it works on my Shield just fine
Sent from my Sammy S6 using Revolution 1.0
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Can confirm here it doesn't work on CM 12.1. I struggled to boot the game at first. My MOJO didn't seem to appreciate it pooling ads in from an external link. Once it settled though after a few re-launches, it would not recognise the controller, much like Giana Sisters.
I'm assuming I got the right game? There's also a Ubisoft version, but I downloaded the Evo version.
In other news I couldn't get an error log for Rayman Adventures. It's not anywhere I can find it. Anyone else tried this game?
Minor bumpage just to say I am keeping the list as up to date as I can. Am noticing after some updates that games that didn't work before are working now.
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Minor bumpage just to say I am keeping the list as up to date as I can. Am noticing after some updates that games that didn't work before are working now.
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For instance? Inquiring minds want to know...
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For instance? Inquiring minds want to know...
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Rayman Adventures is the first one that springs to mind. Worked well on Remix but on CM 12.1 no dice. Just would hang and then crash back to the desktop. It seemed that UbiSoft had added and extra download on top of the initial install, and I suspected this was the cause.
However since the update on the 9th June, it's working again. I'm very pleased as I love Rayman.
I use the stock firmware.
Half Life 2
Portal
Oddworld Stranger's Wrath
Rochard
Lost Echo
Unkilled
All of this games work perfect.
Major long time no see bump. Mad Catz be gone but the games live on! Still very much enjoying the MOJO.
Thanks 1Besik (if you're still around). Added these to the list, and to my own must-buy list.
From my own install I'm playing Oceanhorn, which is brilliant and also Lao's Quest. Added to the list, for anyone who cares to care!
Tried to get Shadowgun Legends working on the MOJO. I updated the ROM to LineageOS, and I was able to install the game, but it looks like OpenGL needs some updating in order for this game to work. Pink screen after initial intro video that played... I'd like to know if there's any possibility...

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