Horrid color distortion at normal viewing angles - Galaxy Tab 7.7 General

Has anyone noticed that the warm colors are only available when looking at the display head on?
Tilting just a few degrees does keep the image sharp, but the colors are much colder...
What im asking is - is this normal, or should i get another?

Well - i just spoke to supercurio, he says its to do with crappy glass treatment, not the panel itself.
Will go and see what else they have at the store tomorrow...

Only a slight change in color for me. Nothing that I would say is an "issue". But, of course, it depends on your personal perception...
What more annoys me is the banding (gradient) and the oversaturated, unnatural colors that I experienced with all AMOLED displays until now. I prefer LC displays...

ftgg99 said:
Has anyone noticed that the warm colors are only available when looking at the display head on?
Tilting just a few degrees does keep the image sharp, but the colors are much colder...
What im asking is - is this normal, or should i get another?
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ftgg99 said:
Well - i just spoke to supercurio, he says its to do with crappy glass treatment, not the panel itself.
Will go and see what else they have at the store tomorrow...
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Seems to be common in Samsung devices but not all exhibit such a bad viewing angle, my Galaxy S and S8500 didnt have any color temperature changes when tilted even at extreme angles while my Galaxy S2 had a slight shift to green, while my note's first screen didnt have any hint of temperature change but after the screen replacement I had a blue tint with really bad viewing angles.
I havent seen how bad it is on the Tab7.7 but im guessing its gonna be similar.
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Found this show case video on the Galaxy Note about the viewing angles, their unit doesnt seem to exhibit any color changes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0we861FoBz0

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Added to ignore list for posting irrelevant opinions THAT TELL US NOTHING.
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Don't let me stop you, just letting you know that its common among samsung devices but not all of them exhibit the same issue, a friend dropped by after getting his tab 7.7 about 2hrs ago and there is no color change at an angle, so yours might be faulty.

ftgg99 said:
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Man I don't post too often but you've gotta relax a little bit, take a chill pill.
The other guy does have a point in saying that its common to all Samsung devices especially the Galaxy S line of devices. I've had a Galaxy S2 that had color temperature change when viewed from an angle and even my current nexus does it.
I got my galaxy tab 7.7 2 weeks ago and I'm very happy to say that it does not have any temperature color change even viewed at an extreme angle.
And this guy did an unboxing and also mentioned that he has no color changes when viewed from an angle as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rha2jJXCy8M
I hope you find my "opinion" relevant but whatever, relax and chill out.
Also he did add to his post that he saw a friend Tab 7.7 and it didn't have the color change that you mentioned.

Flightless said:
Man I don't post too often but you've gotta relax a little bit, take a chill pill.
The other guy does have a point in saying that its common to all Samsung devices especially the Galaxy S line of devices. I've had a Galaxy S2 that had color temperature change when viewed from an angle and even my current nexus does it.
I got my galaxy tab 7.7 2 weeks ago and I'm very happy to say that it does not have any temperature color change even viewed at an extreme angle.
And this guy did an unboxing and also mentioned that he has no color changes when viewed from an angle as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rha2jJXCy8M
I hope you find my "opinion" relevant but whatever, relax and chill out.
Also he did add to his post that he saw a friend Tab 7.7 and it didn't have the color change that you mentioned.
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Right, ill try to take it easy. But you might want to think why opinions about "Samsung devices" are completely irrelevant...
You might also like to read the op, look at my profile page and signature and make some deductions regarding the entire reasoning process as well.
And thank you for the strait, relevant answer. Its appreciated.

Flightless said:
I got my galaxy tab 7.7 2 weeks ago and I'm very happy to say that it does not have any temperature color change even viewed at an extreme angle.
And this guy did an unboxing and also mentioned that he has no color changes when viewed from an angle as well
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That you notice.
This would be the first OLED or any screen (LCD obviously is bad for this) that doesn't change a bit when viewed off axis then. I have seen the Note, the Infuse, and even Zune HD screens and they all shift a bit when viewed at an angle. I would be very suprised if this did't shift at all but I suppose it may be possible.

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That you notice.
This would be the first OLED or any screen (LCD obviously is bad for this) that doesn't change a bit when viewed off axis then. I have seen the Note, the Infuse, and even Zune HD screens and they all shift a bit when viewed at an angle. I would be very suprised if this did't shift at all but I suppose it may be possible.
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Look at the video posted above on the note, it does not have any color temperature change as far as I can tell. Before I had my screen replacement it was similar to that.

Just bought three more for the office, all with perfect screens. The first was a dud, store took it back after some cajoling.
Thanks for the help.

No colour change with mine. Best screen I've have ever looked at.
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I also took mine back because it turned blue when i looked at it at a small angle. New one is not perfect either, still distorting way more than screen on my lcd 8.9 though.
I wonder how many people just dont realise that small color distorion is normal and never complain and how many actually haver crappy screens (since i assume they are pretty much the same manufacture date)?

fafrehugen said:
I also took mine back because it turned blue when i looked at it at a small angle. New one is not perfect either, still distorting way more than screen on my lcd 8.9 though.
I wonder how many people just dont realise that small color distorion is normal and never complain and how many actually haver crappy screens (since i assume they are pretty much the same manufacture date)?
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I also wonder what you're doing with your tablets... When I'm using mine I'm holding in front of me, I don't tilt it at 78.5 degrees only to see that physics does its job with the glass filtering/separating colours at certain angles through reflections between the two glass surfaces.
You can't just have everything: a super-tough screen glass, brilliant colours, high resolution, crisp sharpness, 180 degrees viewing angles in every direction.... Be happy with the best screen in a tablet so far!
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I also wonder what you're doing with your tablets... When I'm using mine I'm holding in front of me, I don't tilt it at 78.5 degrees only to see that physics does its job with the glass filtering/separating colours at certain angles through reflections between the two glass surfaces.
You can't just have everything: a super-tough screen glass, brilliant colours, high resolution, crisp sharpness, 180 degrees viewing angles in every direction.... Be happy with the best screen in a tablet so far!
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Actually you can. My very first 7500 was PERFECT. As was an excellent Incredible S i owned.
Ive now seen 4 of these and none had what i would call a good screen compared to the LCD in my first 7500. Changing up to 170 degrees on it only affects the brightness not the pixels visible color temperatures.

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Not all Nexus S SAMOLED Displays are the same

Hi everyone,
I'm starting this thread to show you guys that not all Nexus S AMOLEDS are the same. I purchased a Nexus S on launch day from one store, and my brother bought a nexus S from another best buy store. We were comparing each others phones, and mine turned out to be darker than his, specifically the whites. We compared our screens at full brightness, and we set the same backgrounds, and his was noticeably better looking. So I went and exchanged mine, the new one I got still suffered from having darker whites, but it was not as bad as the first one, so when we compared them again, his was still better. I took a few pictures of the new one i got compared with his (on right). It may not look like much, but if you look at it in person, it's very noticeable when they are next to each other. I think you guys should compare your nexus s with a display model at a store, or with someone else to see what I'm talking about. I think it's easiest to see what i'm talking about if you look at the search widget. Like I said the first one I had was worse, but I'm comparing the newly exchanged one (left) with my brothers (right).
http://i.imgur.com/iAbJW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0wlmy.jpg
http://imgur.com/mtqCZ.jpg
http://imgur.com/k0deb.jpg
mine is bright enough for me. thats really all i care about.
tekkitan said:
mine is bright enough for me. thats really all i care about.
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I agree with you
It's like my mom says not everything can be 100% perfect
Yeah I know what you're speaking of. I started a thread here about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877497
I went through this when I bought dual monitors for my computer. It is nearly impossible to find two monitors exactly the same. You will not know the difference unless you keep comparing it to others.
momohammed20 said:
Hi everyone,
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in your pix... no to wallpapers are alike
tks989 said:
in your pix... no to wallpapers are alike
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lol thats true. it made me laugh lol
download a solid white wallpaper. set the brightness to the highest. if one of them is cool blue white then this is good screen. if its warm yellowish white, then its a bad screen.
also there is the issue with pinkish disaplay. download a solid gray wallpaper. set the brightness to the lowest, if the gray turns to pink a little. you have a defective screen no matter what others tell you. if it stays gray " like my old Samsung Galaxy S " then you have a perfect screen.
AND there is also the grid pattern matrix you can see on the lowest brightness on the same gray wallpaper. ALL of them are more visible on the Super Amoled screens, just try to get one that is not very noticable.
if you got all those 3 perfectly " with no dead pixels or stuck pixels. then your phone worth alot.
i sold my galaxy S USED more than i bought it NEW because of these effects when i mentioned them to the buyer and he saw with his own eyes the difference. plus it didnt have single scratch on the whole phone so it was like a brand new.
nit picking, there basically the same
rashad1 said:
nit picking, there basically the same
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No one's nitpicking. It's a matter of what you're willing to settle for. I paid my 580.00 for a phone to display the colors correctly. I didn't pay that much for the display to change colors just because I lower the brightness.
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nit picking, there basically the same
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it's hard to show what i'm talking about in the picture, but in person (picture was taken with iphone 4, so it wont show that much), it is very noticeable if the two are side by side.
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in your pix... no to wallpapers are alike
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ya, after i took pics, i realized they were not on the same page on the home screen.
This is a very common issue on the Galaxy S phones too. Different suppliers are used in the manufacturing process resulting in some screens with warmer color temps, and others with cooler ones. The Engadget review of the Nexus S specifically called out a warmer temp by the way.
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Dumb question, but did you verify that the brightness levels in settings are set to the same values? Or at least compared the two phones when at the lowest and highest settings?
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Dumb question, but did you verify that the brightness levels in settings are set to the same values? Or at least compared the two phones when at the lowest and highest settings?
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ya, i actually made sure they were both brightest, and when they are both on the lowest, you can tell one of them displays brighter whites. But the first one I had was worse than the one I have in the pictures on the left, it's hard to notice that you have a screen that does not produce nice whites, unless you see another nexus s that does a better job.
I actually like the ones on the left, the ones on the right crush the blacks, resulting in basically everything washed out, even if it "looks" better to you, it isn't from a calibrator prospective.
The Evo 4G had the same thing going on with its display. HTC used 2 different Manufacturers for the screen, One Novatec, One Was Epson. I believe the Novatec panel had darker colors (warmer?) resulting in more of a purplish color on blacks (what ll_l_x_l_ll calls pink for whatever reason) While the epson didnt have any purplish tone, but most say had a washed out look.
I would say though that on the nexus S, probably 99% of them are going to have a little purplish effect on the lowest brightness setting. If the OPs brothers phone has no purplish color, that would be the first i have seen. Ive seen many many demo units, several video reviews, and even the 2.3 rom ported to other galaxy S phones, and they all have the "purplish" display.
All my whites on my phone are really white, and blacks are really black.
Only be concerned if your screen looks like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882862
That would definatley warrant an exchange, because they are NOT supposed to look like that.
My Screen looks better than his I9000 though too, but that could be his camera too washing out the colors a bit
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The Evo 4G had the same thing going on with its display. HTC used 2 different Manufacturers for the screen, One Novatec, One Was Epson. I believe the Novatec panel had darker colors (warmer?) resulting in more of a purplish color on blacks (what ll_l_x_l_ll calls pink for whatever reason) While the epson didnt have any purplish tone, but most say had a washed out look.
I would say though that on the nexus S, probably 99% of them are going to have a little purplish effect on the lowest brightness setting. If the OPs brothers phone has no purplish color, that would be the first i have seen. Ive seen many many demo units, several video reviews, and even the 2.3 rom ported to other galaxy S phones, and they all have the "purplish" display.
All my whites on my phone are really white, and blacks are really black.
Only be concerned if your screen looks like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882862
That would definatley warrant an exchange, because they are NOT supposed to look like that.
My Screen looks better than his I9000 though too, but that could be his camera too washing out the colors a bit
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Yeah my camera isn't great, it was poor light but it was enough to show the difference.
My i9000 screen is pretty incredible, I'd be impressed if I saw one better.
Oddly though, you say that if it turns blue when the brightness is turned right up, it's a good screen - my Nexus S does that. But it's yellow when the brightness is low.
Personally I think I'm going to take your advice in another thread. I'm going to return this phone for a refund, enjoy using my i9000 for a while as it's now apparent that the screen is excellent (I never really had GPS issues either, so I'm pretty lucky), and go around stores when they have stock to find a screen that compares favourably against my i9000. I'm in a nice position that I can do a side-by-side comparison each time.
momohammed20 said:
it's hard to show what i'm talking about in the picture, but in person (picture was taken with iphone 4, so it wont show that much), it is very noticeable if the two are side by side.
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bazinga.
hit under the belt.
Why not load up Google site in the browser to do your comparison? That way its identical.
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So, I guess not many of you have ever messed around with the LCD monitor in front of you (if you have one).
Mine I can set to be a cool white or a warm white.
Here is the real problem... Your brother is smarter than you. You see, there is a difference maybe in the screens. But instead of him *****ing about it, he likely just said his was better. Thus leaving you with the **** screen.
The tables could have been turned if you would have said "HAHA your screen is broken, and mine is better" the second you found the screens were different. Then it would be him here all upset about the screen.
The things people ***** about on this form are just crazy. And no, I don't care about how much you spent on your phone. When you buy any product you should only have a expectation that it is usable, not perfect. And thats mostly because perfect is mostly opinion when it comes to things like this.
Also, this is a phone, not a pro display marked for having the most accurate color production.
What kills me most is the people who take phones back over and over for problems that only exist in their heads. All you are doing is raising the cost of phones and keeping them high for everybody else.

[Q]Whitelevels and screen sharpness

I have only seen 4 galaxy tab 7.7's so far and I noticed all 4 of them really have bad white levels as compared to my galaxy note, disabled the auto power saving and there is a difference in white levels but its still not even close to the galaxy note at the same brightness level. Even at brightness 25% on the note the vs 100% on the tab 7.7shows 'dimmer'whites. This is not a rant but I'm just asking if the screens are calibrated that way or should I keep looking?
Also I noticed that the mdine engine oon the tab provides oversharpening to a lot of my photos and its so obvious and makes the images look bd, supercurio has the same findings.
It is a pretty big screen so it may be they limited the brightnes to save battery power. While the claim is that OLED takes less power than LCD that is not always true. When displaying white, OLED tech uses like 4X as much power as LCD. The power saving comes in when displaying images with medium to darker colors.
What is the "mdine engine"? Is this something that can be bypassed by using a different picture viewing app?
It is amazing how Samsung seems to always add some crappy image "enhancement" like DnIE or such crap. Why can't they just leave our images alone, as we meant them to be? It is freakin' OLED man. You don't need any contrast or sharpness enhancement you knuckleheads! OLED by nature is sharp and has great contrast! Duh!
I don't know. My 7.7 is super bright, sharp and with way warmer colors than my Note.
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It is a pretty big screen so it may be they limited the brightnes to save battery power. While the claim is that OLED takes less power than LCD that is not always true. When displaying white, OLED tech uses like 4X as much power as LCD. The power saving comes in when displaying images with medium to darker colors.
What is the "mdine engine"? Is this something that can be bypassed by using a different picture viewing app?
It is amazing how Samsung seems to always add some crappy image "enhancement" like DnIE or such crap. Why can't they just leave our images alone, as we meant them to be? It is freakin' OLED man. You don't need any contrast or sharpness enhancement you knuckleheads! OLED by nature is sharp and has great contrast! Duh!
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I'm thinking the samr thing that samsung might ne limiting how bright the whites can go duebto the screen size but based on what I've seen on samoleds some screens juat put out better white levels, not really brighter but whiter.
For the mdine its running system wide.
clubtech said:
I don't know. My 7.7 is super bright, sharp and with way warmer colors than my Note.
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The samoled plus tends to have more warmer colors than the samoled, is the whites on your tab 7.7 'whiter' than on the note at the same brightness level?
EarlZ said:
For the mdine its running system wide.
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Is there a way to shut it off or bypass it somehow?
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Is there a way to shut it off or bypass it somehow?
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Yes I believe so, Supercurio knows more about that stuff.
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simulated example done in photoshop, anyone with the tab7.7 and better photoshop skills feel free to redo this simulated image
Perhaps one of the other reason that the 7.7's screen isn't quite as bright, apart from the obvious power saving reasons, is an effort to possibly reduce the OLED degradation (burn-in) effect.
Either way, although I certainly noticed out of the box that my 7.7 wasn't as bright as my Note (or even my GS2 for that matter!), I was never really bothered by it because (especially when you use movie mode) the colour reproduction is very accurate, and paired up with the contrast levels, it's still fantastic!
I guess, to me, white doesn't necessarily mean I need to put on a pair of sunglasses while looking at my screen lol!
I just wanted to know if the norm has lower white levels, what bothers me more is added sharpening on some images.
EarlZ said:
I just wanted to know if the norm has lower white levels, what bothers me more is added sharpening on some images.
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Have you tried using the movie mode? Settings => Screen => Mode
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Have you tried using the movie mode? Settings => Screen => Mode
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I havent but id imagine thats gonna give a yellowish cast on the entire screen. I didnt get the tab yet as the store units I tried had very obvious screen problems. Gonna wait for a the next batch to arrive.
EarlZ said:
I havent but id imagine thats gonna give a yellowish cast on the entire screen. I didnt get the tab yet as the store units I tried had very obvious screen problems. Gonna wait for a the next batch to arrive.
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Yellowish? Not at all! At least not with my unit anyway. Sure it makes the screen generally warmer in colour, but IMO, more than anything, it makes the colours look more accurate and natural.
Give it a try! You never know until you do...
Black Levels.. now White Levels, you are a very picky person EarlZ...
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Black Levels.. now White Levels, you are a very picky person EarlZ...
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Since when was it wrong to ask for more product information on what is the norm, if you've got nothing to contribute stay away instead of starting a flamebait.
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Yellowish? Not at all! At least not with my unit anyway. Sure it makes the screen generally warmer in colour, but IMO, more than anything, it makes the colours look more accurate and natural.
Give it a try! You never know until you do...
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Well ever since the Galaxy S changing the color mode to movie mode gives a yellowish cast, this is probably dependent on the calibration on the screen we get in the first place. I saw a friend's Tab7.7 the other day and his white levels were really brighter than my Galaxy Note. FWIW, its still a luck of the draw when it comes to color calibration on the screen. But thanks for that tip, when I'll purchase the Tab I'll make sure to also check out movie mode and see if it hits my requirements.
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Since when was it wrong to ask for more product information on what is the norm, if you've got nothing to contribute stay away instead of starting a flamebait.
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it was a friendly comment kababayan, you got it wrong
i have mine set to vibrant... rather like it like that.
it's just a shame it's SOOOO darn bright!
i cant use it t night!
even with screenfilter and other apps... no worky on amoled
FernandoMiguel said:
i have mine set to vibrant... rather like it like that.
it's just a shame it's SOOOO darn bright!
i cant use it t night!
even with screenfilter and other apps... no worky on amoled
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Very bright noticed the same with the Note ,
Nexus was somewhat easier on the eyes at night,
But probably like you I like a very dim screen at night.
When the brightness is turned all the way down on the 7.7,
is any banding or other issues seen like many report on the Note?
Blacks are black I'm sure but how are greys that are near black.
On the Nexus they were fine, but on the Notes I seen they could have been darker?

Request: Someone with a White Note Please post a pix of it

if any of you have a digital camera and white galaxy note, can you please post a picture of plain white display (via LCD Test *#0*#) in low brightness. Please let me know. thank you all in advance.
Here you go. Hopefully the file attaches (I think it may be too large).
Oh, it looks like it may have downsized it. Let me know if you need more detail.
Is that dirt or a dead pixels on that image?
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Must have been specs of dust. I checked just now and they're not there.
PAGOT said:
Is that dirt or a dead pixels on that image?
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I bet you almost gave him a heart attack
LordManhattan said:
I bet you almost gave him a heart attack
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hahahahahaha
Thanks a lot! Do you have a screen protector applied on top of that? I see something that looks like mura lines. I'm sure those are not mura lines but the way the camera was focused on the screen. Also that display brightness was set to the lowest, right?
It would be great to see more users contribute to this thread. I'm making a tally to convince myself to buy a White note. My black note was serviced several times due to screen issues, and am getting a refund. Not letting go of the note just yet.
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Here you go. Hopefully the file attaches (I think it may be too large).
Oh, it looks like it may have downsized it. Let me know if you need more detail.
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don't know if my eyes are playing me, I do see a couple of horizontal lines, I don't know if that is due to the screen protector or the angle the picture was taken from, don't wanna scare you, but I am hoping that the next wave of batches have a better production like the S2.
The witch hunt continues
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Always Positive...
However, you can definitely appreciate the fact that the White Note has a better display than the Black. Horizontal lines or not, they definitely display less on the White compared to the Black. Hope to see more pictures soon!
SAlmighty said:
Thanks a lot! Do you have a screen protector applied on top of that? I see something that looks like mura lines. I'm sure those are not mura lines but the way the camera was focused on the screen. Also that display brightness was set to the lowest, right?
It would be great to see more users contribute to this thread. I'm making a tally to convince myself to buy a White note. My black note was serviced several times due to screen issues, and am getting a refund. Not letting go of the note just yet.
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No screen protector. And yes, I set the brightness all the way down before I took that photo.
I think if you're seeing a moire pattern it may be because of the difference in resolution between the reduced-resolution image and your monitor. I'm looking at the original photo in Photoshop and when I zoom in and out I see changing moire patterns at certain zoom levels, but don't notice anything when I look at it zoomed in at 100%, or even at 50%. And of course I don't see any moire pattern when looking at the phone itself.
Oh, and the brighter area in the lower left of the photo is my hand's reflection.
I do, however, see faint horizontal (vertical in this photo) banding on the screen when looking at the phone. I couldn't say whether it's any better or worse than the black/carbon blue version, as I've never seen one. I'd describe the banding as very faint, but visible if you're looking hard for it. And when looking at a blank white screen like this, I also have a general sense that not every part of the screen is quite the same level of brightness. Again, not major, but noticeable when looking at a solid white screen.
You'd need to reduce the brightness further with Screen Adjuster from the market. The basic brightness setting at 0% is probably only at 50% of what the screen is actually at. So you can go much dimmer to reveal the manufacturing process.
Learn to live with it. The marks don't affect the functionality of the screen. While I have noticeable marks on the bottom right half of the corner and vertical streaks, I don't let it deter me from enjoying this elegant piece of tech!
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However, you can definitely appreciate the fact that the White Note has a better display than the Black. Horizontal lines or not, they definitely display less on the White compared to the Black. Hope to see more pictures soon!
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That is bollocks My new white 32 GB Note has a much worse display than my former two blue 16 GB. Think I gonna send it back so that the white has a better display is pure dreams
I just ordered my white note today. Looking forward to it arriving on my doorstep tomorrow!
guys make sure to turnoff AUTO ADJUST SCREEN POWER in display options.
i have black unit and i done lcd test on low brightness.no lines or anything.
if you have to download app to lower brightness even more to see defect.then something is wrong with u.because ur looking for reasons to find some kind of defect.everything is not perfect.if u cant see it on normal use,then its good piece.

HTC One Sharp panel digitiser issue

As we all know HTC One cam with 3 types of screen
those are JDİ c_1, JDİ c_2 ans Sharp panel
it was kind of wierd that all new phones have in cell touch technology where touch sensor integrated in screen, advantages with that slimmer phone, brighter screen and less reflection.
HTC chose old fasion but issue with that especially on sharp panel digitiser visible and its whe you notice annoys you.
What am I supposed to be noticing here?
I think he's talking about those lines. Personally, i consider that a viewing angle issue.
As someone who returned his phone twice for aesthetic reasons, this one would not bother me.
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finalhit said:
I think he's talking about those lines. Personally, i consider that a viewing angle issue.
As someone who returned his phone twice for aesthetic reasons, this one would not bother me.
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If it is those lines, then it isn't a Sharp panel issue in particular, mine doesn't have this. Just checked.
Pointlol said:
If it is those lines, then it isn't a Sharp panel issue in particular, mine doesn't have this. Just checked.
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You need to angle it correctly with sunlight(only) to be able to see it. It won't show up on artificial lights.
Riyal said:
You need to angle it correctly with sunlight(only) to be able to see it. It won't show up on artificial lights.
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Thanks. Just tried this and it was INCREDIBLY hard to see the lines, but they were there. I couldn't even make out the screen anymore since I had to put it directly in the sun in a retarded angle. Would not have noticed this in a million years. Maybe it's worse on some screens, on mine it's a non issue
No lines with JDI_C2 panel
Pointlol said:
Thanks. Just tried this and it was INCREDIBLY hard to see the lines, but they were there. I couldn't even make out the screen anymore since I had to put it directly in the sun in a retarded angle. Would not have noticed this in a million years. Maybe it's worse on some screens, on mine it's a non issue
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well mine is very noticible and alot are
This is a pointless thread adding negativity to a phone with probably the best screen in the market. I had both JDI and Sharp. It is visible in both, maybe Sharp a little more but i have already mentioned the benefits of this panel.
TRiBaL1981 said:
This is a pointless thread adding negativity to a phone with probably the best screen in the market. I had both JDI and Sharp. It is visible in both, maybe Sharp a little more but i have already mentioned the benefits of this panel.
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Hi, where have you mention benefits of this panel? can i see
thanks
For those having the issue, are these lines only visible when outdoors in bright light and holding the phone at an unusually sharp angle? Can you see the lines when viewing the phone from a normal angle? You can see where I'm going with this.
henrybravo said:
For those having the issue, are these lines only visible when outdoors in bright light and holding the phone at an unusually sharp angle? Can you see the lines when viewing the phone from a normal angle? You can see where I'm going with this.
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its there mate and more than you say i live in very sunny place and its very noticable i have just exchanged it no visible lines on JDİ screen
cihanleanne said:
its there mate and more than you say i live in very sunny place and its very noticable i have just exchanged it no visible lines on JDİ screen
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I'm not pretty sure though... Mine is a samsung JDI screen and I can see the lines when phone is facing direct sunlight and looking in a 120 degree angle Anyways I don't use my phone like that and it's not a bother to me. Honestly I just noticed it 3 times since getting the phone.
You can see the lines clearly in the sunlight. Like you normally hold your phone, they go away if you angle it more towards yourself. They are a huge flaw. I have never seen any phone have this crap
I have owned
S2, s3, optimus g, Xperia s, HTC one x, lumia620
I can only see them when the screen is turned off, and holding the phone in a way no one uses their phone... And then it is barely noticeable. The One X had this as well.
My biggest issue, however, is that when I hold the phone at a certain angle and focus my eyes differently, I can see my reflection. I hope warranty covers the reflection issue :crying:
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mine is really bad i have jdi its normal but sharp was awful
Stop harassing People with honest complaints
TRiBaL1981 said:
This is a pointless thread adding negativity to a phone with probably the best screen in the market. I had both JDI and Sharp. It is visible in both, maybe Sharp a little more but i have already mentioned the benefits of this panel.
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I too noticed lines and also noticed a small purple burn in image on my screen. My phone is less than a Month old and I have had plenty of high end phones that do not share the HTC ONEs screen problems that I have experienced thus far. The phone is great, and I do not feel people should be scared of other people who make sharp comments negating their honest views. I hate closed minds. I applaud everyone who expresses their individual problems with a device they paid top dollar for. Just because we highlight certain areas of a phone does not mean we are not credible in our complaints.
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You can see the lines clearly in the sunlight. Like you normally hold your phone, they go away if you angle it more towards yourself. They are a huge flaw. I have never seen any phone have this crap
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S2, s3, optimus g, Xperia s, HTC one x, lumia620
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I second this flaw. Don't let people tell you this is natural. Neither my iPhone or Galaxy S4 has showed these lines and if they did I would comment. I can also see mine at a correct viewing angle in outside sunlight. I should note I love my HTC ONe. I share no brand "fan boy" feelings.
cihanleanne said:
Hi, where have you mention benefits of this panel? can i see
thanks
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The benefits (since you asked):
1. Best brightness value
2. Best viewing angles
3. Most accurate color display/calibration
4. Highest pixel density (marginal, I know, but the numbers are what they are)
5. Most natural white temperature
All of these confirmed through various reviews/comparisons of current android phones. I can also personally attest to these through my own comparisons with numerous phones side by side. This does not include iphone 5 which is better still in most of these categories.
So the point made (and a very valid point I would say) was that if we have to deal with this insignificant "problem" to have a better display in most other senses, for me that's a no-brainer. No one in these threads seems to accept that yes, it's normal for this phone. Maybe that's not ideal for some for whatever reason and that's totally fair, lucky them there's other excellent phones to choose from. Everyone has their own priorities
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I've gone through 4 one's and 3/4 had that and my last one doesn't.
Terrorantula said:
I've gone through 4 one's and 3/4 had that and my last one doesn't.
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Hi i got my excahnge JDİ panel ts not visible unless extreme same as any phone only sharp panels have ths issue badly
onetongwa said:
I too noticed lines and also noticed a small purple burn in image on my screen. My phone is less than a Month old and I have had plenty of high end phones that do not share the HTC ONEs screen problems that I have experienced thus far. The phone is great, and I do not feel people should be scared of other people who make sharp comments negating their honest views. I hate closed minds. I applaud everyone who expresses their individual problems with a device they paid top dollar for. Just because we highlight certain areas of a phone does not mean we are not credible in our complaints.
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I second this flaw. Don't let people tell you this is natural. Neither my iPhone or Galaxy S4 has showed these lines and if they did I would comment. I can also see mine at a correct viewing angle in outside sunlight. I should note I love my HTC ONe. I share no brand "fan boy" feelings.
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Thank you but Galaxy S4 and phone 5 has integrated touch sensors. saying that i have my one x its not visible its issue comes with certain types

Need an opinion really fast! Is my nexus 6P display defective?

Hello guys...I think my nexus 6P has pretty bad viweing angles. It is exactly...and I mean exactly like in this video.
http ://youtu.be/XhEC4dE5XHg
Is it normal for amoled screens? Is yours the same? What should I do? I love this phone...but this is concerning me. I am waiting for your answers as I do not know if I should Return this one and ask for a new one.
Update 1: do you think a tempered glass protector will make a difference? I am about to apply one but if my unit is defective Ivwill wait until I exchange it
The viewing angles for me are crap. If I tilt it upwards the screen goes completely pink/purple. Left and right give a rainbow tint. I don't notice it 95% of the time though
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The viewing angles for me are crap. If I tilt it upwards the screen goes completely pink/purple. Left and right give a rainbow tint. I don't notice it 95% of the time though
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Do you think this is like a common thing? Or are we unlucky and most of the screens are better? It also pisses me off a little...otherwise i love the phone...but idk if I should ask for a replacement or not. I might also get a screen with a worst effect so that is why I am scard.
I think all screens are the same. Samsung kept the 100% ones and gave Huawei the 2. choice samples. If you use a higher brightness, it´s not really that bad. I´ve seen worse screens eg. in a Samsung Galaxy SIII where you could spot the glue marks..
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I think all screens are the same. Samsung kept the 100% ones and gave Huawei the 2. choice samples. If you use a higher brightness, it´s not really that bad. I´ve seen worse screens eg. in a Samsung Galaxy SIII where you could spot the glue marks..
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Funny enough i am coming from an s3 and had no problems with the screen on that one. I had to choose between the 6P and the s6 edge plus....and i chose the 6P cuz I saw that the edge plus had a really loose home button and I didn't want that. I still want the 6P more...i just really fell in love with it...but I do not know if I should try and rma it...
Is your also the same?
It's very common. There are several threads on here about it, lots of people affected and some having to return their phones 4 or 5 times to get one they are reasonable happy with.
Mine was really bad especially at angles. I returned for a refund. I couldn't be bothered to return it multiple times. Also I was annoyed that Google was ignoring my emails about it.
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It's very common. There are several threads on here about it, lots of people affected and some having to return their phones 4 or 5 times to get one they are reasonable happy with.
Mine was really bad especially at angles. I returned for a refund. I couldn't be bothered to return it multiple times. Also I was annoyed that Google was ignoring my emails about it.
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I really do not know what to do...also...if I should try another 6P or not...I am kinda afraid cuz at over 60% brighteness...my whites are actually whites instead of the pinkish whites i saw on this forum...at 100% even with adaptive they look really good. I am afraid I will get a unit with really bad uneven screen. I will try and post some pictures in a bit
It's frustrating. Like you I had an s3 and the screen on that was great. It didn't have bad whites or bad viewing angles and that was years ago
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It's frustrating. Like you I had an s3 and the screen on that was great. It didn't have bad whites or bad viewing angles and that was years ago
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I have the exact same feel! What would you do?
You might get used to the screen, don´t worry The Nexus 5 ( 2013 ) had a different type of screen where you could see the digitizer matrix if you looked close enough I´m happy with my Nexus 6p though it´s slightly warped now. The phone is great but not very sturdy from a mechanical point of view.
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You might get used to the screen, don´t worry The Nexus 5 ( 2013 ) had a different type of screen where you could see the digitizer matrix if you looked close enough I´m happy with my Nexus 6p though it´s slightly warped now. The phone is great but not very sturdy from a mechanical point of view.
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What do you mean when you say "warped" ?
I will post shortly some photos of the screen. Please let me know what you think
Okay....so here are my photos
It's an amoled. I've 4 s6. 2 10.5 tab s . 8.4 tab s and now a 9.7 tab s2 and there all the same. So it's not a defect . It's only wrong if it has a very noticeable hue or is uneven in colour. if it's even and has nice whites don't risk it
It's a shame because I love this damn device besides the crappy screen angles. Any slight deviation from straight on give me a bluish hue. Sad because the colors are so vibrant. I have played a bit with the saturation settings in Franco's kernel, but the color temp doesn't go high enough to tame the warm whites as much as I want. Just got my phone this past Monday and am still on the fence about an RMA. I just got the phone running where I want on CATA with Franco.
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Okay guys...this is my screen. The brighteness was at less than 50 and more than 70. Most of the shots were taken with adaptive brighteness on. The photos where the screen is really bright were taken with adaptive off and brighteness at around 90%
What do you think, should I try to replace it with a new one or do you think the screen is good enaugh? Would you keep it?
Here you go: http://imgur.com/gallery/PfBWw
whodatfan said:
It's a shame because I love this damn device besides the crappy screen angles. Any slight deviation from straight on give me a bluish hue. Sad because the colors are so vibrant. I have played a bit with the saturation settings in Franco's kernel, but the color temp doesn't go high enough to tame the warm whites as much as I want. Just got my phone this past Monday and am still on the fence about an RMA. I just got the phone running where I want on CATA with Franco.
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It's an amoled. I've 4 s6. 2 10.5 tab s . 8.4 tab s and now a 9.7 tab s2 and there all the same. So it's not a defect . It's only wrong if it has a very noticeable hue or is uneven in colour. if it's even and has nice whites don't risk it
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Gorgtech said:
I think all screens are the same. Samsung kept the 100% ones and gave Huawei the 2. choice samples. If you use a higher brightness, it´s not really that bad. I´ve seen worse screens eg. in a Samsung Galaxy SIII where you could spot the glue marks..
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It's frustrating. Like you I had an s3 and the screen on that was great. It didn't have bad whites or bad viewing angles and that was years ago
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Hey guys...check those photos
Mine looks white with good viewing angles
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Mine looks white with good viewing angles
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well, really happy for you, mate!
What about also checking my photos a bit?
Michael Ilie said:
well, really happy for you, mate!
What about also checking my photos a bit?
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That's looks like a good screen to me. Very uniform. Keep it . I would be chuffed if mine was like that. I think we become obsessed when first coming from Lcd or Ips screens but our eyes adjust and we end up realising that we have a good amoled or not. that comparable to the whites on my Samsung S6. And it took me 4 s6 phones to get a screen this good
Thanks a lot for your reply! You made me smile a little and feel better about it . When you say "that comparable to the whites on my Samsung S6." you mean that you compared my screen to your s6 or? I also think the screen looks kinda okay...getting just a little pink when I change the viewing angle...and then green if I move it a bit more. That's why I am saying I think the viewing angles are the ones bothering me. my screen also gets kinda pink...but when I get the brightenes all the way down and I am in adaptive mode. does that also happen on yours?

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