Desperate situation with P735 ROM upgrade - Please help - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.

AsusP said:
Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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for desktop PCs ! if you have by example W7 in French and want to put it in English - I mean to get English package by update- this will not work if you have an OEM license -this is not allowed!
so is that with OEMs if you want to keep license !
for your PDA you must find an unofficial English ROM only! also a way to write it to the phone BUT for this to work DO NOT use Active Sync!
I can't give you more details because don't have a PDA like yours but this problem is interesting
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AsusP said:
Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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try a way to write firmware without Active Sync read this post to see you need some way like that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-378907.html
ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/IA/P735 doesn't works more you have to find somewere a firmware in English as I see no longer Asus support they say this is deprecated sorry to hear that

Hi Ruscan and thank you for your interest in this topic, being the first person to react at all to this problem that has been left unsolved for many years, despite many other people posting about it earlier and who were left with neither solution nor answer/evidence of interest from the side of the developers. I do also think this is an interesting issue that could become even more actual in the future.
So far i was unable to find ANY unoffocial ROM for the P735. I do have the official one (Malaysia) in English though, from Asus's website, yet i do not know how to hack it and eventually install it. Furthermore, i was wondering whether an P750 or P535 ROM could work on a P735 with few modifications, cause the 735 is hardware-wise somewhere between the two.
I am ready to take the time to write the firmware myself yet i have no experience at all in that neither i know from where to start. If to write a new firware then it would be good to finally produce a WM6.1 version for this PDA, instead of the existing 6.0. How to do that, any idea?
Thank you for your explanation and for making this non-sense situation a little bit more clear.
PS: Also, i've read somewhere that the device won't turn-on anymore if upgraded to a different language, does that apply to an update via SD-card as well?
PS2: Installing the Android system on this device would be an option?

..i wonder what would ASUS.UnlockLangID.exe do with your problem..
what's this all about:
p525 had similar problem, that could result in NOT real bricking of device after flash(wrong languague version after reset - device seem to be locked on bootloader then). when tool is used before flash, custom lang roms are working properly(interesting then, what this tool does, btw, as it is launched from WM - so, it may be microflasher, or sth like that).
now...i have strong feeling, that warnings you read about flashing different lang rom, may be related to this ridiculous, small, problem.
issue is, that i do not know, if ASUS.UnlockLangID.exe may help with p735, OR if there's version made for p735.
update: i read this again, slowly:
"Cross-language upgrade is not allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
...they tell you about upgrade TOOL, not rom.
hmmm, so.. what, if you use tool in languague of...ROM?
maybe unlocklangid code is inside flasher, so using proper updater with proper rom is simple solution?
on the other hand - i am making roms for asuses for years, and i never used default flash method - vide usbloader method(and force mode from BL).
i am not going to encourage you to go this way of thinking, but...

AsusP said:
Hi Ruscan and thank you for your interest in this topic, being the first person to react at all to this problem that has been left unsolved for many years, despite many other people posting about it earlier and who were left with neither solution nor answer/evidence of interest from the side of the developers. I do also think this is an interesting issue that could become even more actual in the future.
So far i was unable to find ANY unoffocial ROM for the P735. I do have the official one (Malaysia) in English though, from Asus's website, yet i do not know how to hack it and eventually install it. Furthermore, i was wondering whether an P750 or P535 ROM could work on a P735 with few modifications, cause the 735 is hardware-wise somewhere between the two.
I am ready to take the time to write the firmware myself yet i have no experience at all in that neither i know from where to start. If to write a new firware then it would be good to finally produce a WM6.1 version for this PDA, instead of the existing 6.0. How to do that, any idea?
Thank you for your explanation and for making this non-sense situation a little bit more clear.
PS: Also, i've read somewhere that the device won't turn-on anymore if upgraded to a different language, does that apply to an update via SD-card as well?
PS2: Installing the Android system on this device would be an option?
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sorry this is just to test my signature will be back but I do not think Android is an option for your phone it is all about technical specs to port Android on that phone and only Asus will have that
by example I know about a project named Andromnia this is how to use Android on Omnia-WM phone
nice try!! but believe me this is about reverse engineering and does not works for now- no gps/gprs/wifi signal and Android crashes

funny, that andromnia showed me, asus user, that android could be real for REAL PDA's.
andromnia works on p750 when proper kernel is used,
EOT/
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btw, is author of topic here?

pupakota said:
funny, that andromnia showed me, asus user, that android could be real for REAL PDA's.
andromnia works on p750 when proper kernel is used, so i found ridiculous whining of ..omnia user here. where were users of omnia, when andoid on that device WAS real?
Now, go and focking buy android bs, you ignored andromnia maker for months, do not whine now.
well, HTC killed everything.
btw, is author of topic here?
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tell me, what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
cit:
You can extract ABI file and flash you device through SD card
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sooo..it seems, that updater BUG is reason, not roms itself here.
funny is, that rom cooking for this machine is quite real, if tools i can see are working.
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upd: ok, so, if i see it right, all you need is to:
fully charge battery,
extact exe, get abi,
copy abi to empty sd card(NOT SHDC!),
go to bootloader(hard to say how - try dpad right + soft reset) and
wait.
when update's done, do hard reset.
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of course, i cannot say at this moment, if whole process is safe, it works fine with zinc device(that seem to have identical flash procedures and SAME cross-lang error when manufacturer way of flashing is used(exe)).
i will try to get more info from my mate asap. cross your fingers, and wait a bit.
here's tool you may try to get abi file from original asus updater EXE file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368401
if it's not working, there's another one, maybe more universal,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511158
btw, are you from Pakistan?

Thanks all of you for your input.
1 - There is NO AsusUnlockLangID.exe for Asus P735 - do not know why.
The one from P535 or P525 is useless on this phone.
2 - Great point about "same-upgrade-tool-language-possibility" yet the official ROM comes in an .exe file that i do not know how to unpack/hack in order to insert the correct ROM or vice-versa.
Could you provide me with some insight for that?
3 - Besides that, do you think a tweaked P750 ROM could work on this phone, or a hybrid P535/735? Wouldn't that be the best/easiest solution, which would in the same way finally create a more advanced ROM for this quite neglected device? The older P535 has even 6.5 ROMs whereas P735 is limited to the basic 6.0. (Does that have any advantage by the way?)
4 - I am open to any way of flashing, given it provides the right result so all your advices are welcome.
Yes, the author is very present

@Pupakota
Ok, thank you, i've just read your last answer. I'm gonna try the tool you're talking about and inform you of the result.
PS: No, i'm not from Pakistan though i love the country, are you from there?
PS2: Any way to port the 6.1 version to P735, to kill two flies in one shot ?

3 - Besides that, do you think a tweaked P750 ROM could work on this phone, or a hybrid P535/735? Wouldn't that be the best/easiest solution, which would in the same way finally create a more advanced ROM for this quite neglected device? The older P535 has even 6.5 ROMs whereas P735 is limited to the basic 6.0. (Does that have any advantage by the way?)
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PS2: Any way to port the 6.1 version to P735, to kill two flies in one shot ?
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p750 is different pair of shoes, nothing would be useful in this case. do not try any roms made for different devices(trivia, i know).
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i dare to say, that any rom is possible for 735... while searching info, people made every possible build, including 6.5's...ALL chinese :E
rom from exe is exctractable, then fully dumpable, packages are clean and good...
btw, that ABI file is just a renamed rom.bin...
while Activesync method of EXE flashing is wrong, only way of avoiding problem is using SD card flash method then by using that pseudo "abi" file.
dpad to right + softreset should start flash procedure. if not, it may be some key on the right side of the device + soft reset(hard to understand translated chinese...).
but before you decide to try...
could you, AsusP, make photo of bootloader mode?
and please, post link of exe file you were trying to flash, i need it(i mean this english one). for some reason dumped rom from "WWE" version seem to be...hebrew... i really would extract real english rom.
now, only problem is, that besides of one case i did not see any clear information, if sd flash with languague change is safe.
one person wrote it is.

Hi, i'll get back to you ASAP regarding other questions, in the meanwhile here is the link of the firmware in question (that i'm trying to use) :
http://support.asus.com/Download.as...e=P735_FUU_Malaysia.zip#P735_FUU_Malaysia.zip

yup, this one seems to be exactly like one i tried to extract, indeed, it's wwe.
damn, it's OLD
it seems, that cooking custom roms is possible for this device without special problems. new 6.1 or 6.5 should work MUCH faster, than your actual one, or that wwe from asus...
try to make photo of bootloader, and tell me, which version of 735 do you have, 64 mb or 128 mb of ram?
ahh and one last question: do you have original updater with german version of rom, that you CAN flash(i mean, that you have now, in your device)? it may be neccesary, if you ever dare to make further experiments.

"try to make photo of bootloader, and tell me, which version of 735 do you have, 64 mb or 128 mb of ram?"
It is 64MB RAM, same as all Asus P7XX devices i guess, if not upgraded (mine is not).
Sorry, but how do you make photos of the bootloader? Do you mean the update tool?
"ahh and one last question: do you have original updater with german version of rom, that you CAN flash(i mean, that you have now, in your device)? it may be neccesary, if you ever dare to make further experiments."
I have it in the device yes but i don't have the program/CD if that's what you mean. It could be downloaded though from Asus i think...
PS: WWE stands for...?

Sorry, but how do you make photos of the bootloader?
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Bootloader mode flash(with unpacked from exe rom image on sd card) seem to be Only way to update your device.
I am trying to determine risk linked to this method, so i need photo of LOOK of bootloader mode.
You may enter BL mode by pressing dpad RIGHT and making soft reset, if i am right.
then something should appear, and this is what i want you to photograph it for me(with..camera).
of COURSE, do not put abi image on sd card YET, otherwise you start to update, and we do NOT know yet, if you brick your machine or not.
so, at this moment i just ant to see hot it look like, without flashing, if its typical 525/750 bootloader, not some weird thing, i'd assume, that abi file flashing should not brick machine.
sorry or enigmatic words, cannot explain this easier way.
It is 64MB RAM, same as all Asus P7XX devices i guess, if not upgraded (mine is not).
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..so not all 735's have 64 mb ram, i'd say, ok?
look, i do not know nothing about your knowledge level, many users of 750's with 128 mb ram are using 64 mb version of roms(typical noob would have no idea to try any different), this is why i mentioned it...
btw, besides using GanFan-ZincROMXtractor's easier way of obtaining rom file from exe is just using restorator, reshack, or similar tool to extract rom at res 152.
result is identical as using zincromextractor, though name of file must be set manually - it is Mars_G4.abi (though, it is not..real abi file, but it doesn't matter).
WWE stands for...?
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english rom...

what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?

xuanmei said:
what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
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hey, do you have account on one of chinese pda sites?
could you download and post here any 735 kitchen for me, sir?
i'd like to have a look onto it, but for some reason i am not able to register.

WWE World Wide English - got it.
Pupakota thanks a lot for your efforts, i've had a busy schedule these days, i'll paste you all the info soon.
My knowledge level is basic yet i have some experience of programing from before and i'm very keen to learn about this, more than just using the system.

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going to flash sda-music, need some advice

the sda-music, (or maybe sda only? how may i find out what device it is? its labeled "T-Mobile SDA" but seems to be the sda.music...) which is my girlfriends phone, produces many freaking errors lately.
so i decided, to not only hardreset the device, in fact i wanted to reflash the device with WM5 or 6 so there would be some nice software and feature additions.
But i read two posts, at least, that mentioned the authors device being bricked during flash-process...
now i wanted to know if the tornado is really that vulnerable.
and what is better flashing wm5 or wm6, is wm5 more stable and final than wm6?
i think the device is shipped with WM2003(se?).
is there any possibility to back up the existing rom and extrom (if there is one), to have the original rom anywhere backuped? (to reflash it, if anything isn't nice with wm5/6)
greetings
hoping for some answers.
garfield

HP6915 WM5 English ROM,G4 Only!

Nothing now
Woah,about 100peoples viewed this thread & downloaded,but nobody comment,great! Will never proffer anything at here.
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bramblyrose said:
Woah,about 100peoples viewed this thread & downloaded,but nobody comment,great! Will never proffer anything at here.
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Same thing at my pathetic website forum.gsmelitel.com
17 views no comments, on your thread.
Guest, No one is registering.
I am still trying to fix this problem, when i do, people will have no choice but to register before being given the link to download.
http://forum.gsmelite.com
Can i make my G4 Dutch 6915 English with this?
I read in another topic a user had issues trying to convert his dutch phone to englsih. I don't think he used this rom-update though.
Is this an official hp rom? or a custom made package?
Just flash the ceos.nbf
Just flash the damn CEOS.nbf and delete the rest
make sure you have a backup.
end of story, official or not doesn't matter, **** happens
It's not really about the language that i want the english rom, i want it, because the dutch rom just is very slow. It seems the UK rom has better performance. (lots of discussion about this in dutch forums also).
But i'm not really known with the tools i should use to create a proper backup of my hw6915.
Should i use awizard? or mtty 1.4 in bootloader mode? (those were the two main options i read about in the forum here).
A little help to get me in the good direction would be appreciated.
Dizzie said:
It's not really about the language that i want the english rom, i want it, because the dutch rom just is very slow. It seems the UK rom has better performance. (lots of discussion about this in dutch forums also).
But i'm not really known with the tools i should use to create a proper backup of my hw6915.
Should i use awizard? or mtty 1.4 in bootloader mode? (those were the two main options i read about in the forum here).
A little help to get me in the good direction would be appreciated.
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Absolutely this is english WM5.0 rom,but u gotta make sure ur device is G4(G3.9),otherwise u can't upgrade ur device version with this which I provided.
Regards,
Brose
where is the downloadlink for the rom?
And has my device have to be unlocked?
I have 2 hp 6915 phones, 1 unlocked, and the other Vodafone branded. would like to have the locked one to be unlocked. How do I manage that?
I have a G4 device, 1.00.00 1.21UK
Thanks in advance!
(sorry for my English, i'm dutch)
Where is the download link?
can I use this rom for my 6910G4?
Sorry you guys,the download link be repealed coz everybody just downloaded it but no support! Hope u can understand it.
Be good!
Brose
can you mail me one?
there is sth wrong with my gps,sb said i must update my rom,but i dunno where to get it!
thanks a lot!
[email protected]
up up up.
sb help me!!
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420041

614c radio firmware v0.89 (and a solution to the call waiting problem) WITH LINKS

Good news!
hp have packaged up 614c radio firmware FW v0.89 and are shortly to release it. Early indications are that this provides a fix to the "call waiting problem", as well as improved in-call volume in both directions... and presumably other minor fixes.
A radio firmware upgrade can be performed irrespective of whichever system ROM you are using - so whether you use the original WM6.0, or a WM6.1 version, you can still apply the radio firmware upgrade without affecting the operating system or OS ROM version.
However, the upgrade will automatically perform a clean boot, so take all the necessary backups first and be prepared for a couple of hours of effort to "rebuild" your precious ipaq...
hipppo,
It is realy good news, but could you, pls, place some link to this 0.89 firmware upgrade or write its SP version? Cannot find it at HP site, maybe I have some wrong search method
BTW: as to some your prior post about Yevg001's tests with loosing data connection when voice comes - he couldn't test it in Moscow because he lives in Jerusalem But as I know he works there just with 3G, just maybe he didn't test this feature... But now he sold his 614c so we cannot count on new OS releases from him. Maybe not definitely but it something appears then it will be not tested from now :-(
oh wow, that's huge. Lets hope they release this thing ASAP.
Sorry for misunderstanding... afraid it will not be too quick looking on their speed...
If anyone will find how to downgrade firmware to 0.77 or its SP name, pls write...
I now have the radio firmware v0.89. It works well.
The call waiting problem is not present. It is possible to use voice and data concurrently. I haven't noticed any problems yet.
If someone can show me how to make a file available for everyone, I will post it. The radio firmware is about 6Mb and an additional patch (0.25Mb) is required to resolve the call waiting problem.
hipppo
And by the way this is an official hp firmware pack... with the standard hp executable that patches your radio firmware to v0.89. No messing around with SD-cards or flash files is required, it just runs through a USB/activesync connection.
It does not affect the OS firmware - whatever OS ROM image you have (whether WM6 or WM6.1) will not be affected.
However, it will cause a clean boot so you'll need to reinstall any non-ROM software and data.
hipppo
hipppo said:
I now have the radio firmware v0.89. It works well.
The call waiting problem is not present. It is possible to use voice and data concurrently. I haven't noticed any problems yet.
If someone can show me how to make a file available for everyone, I will post it. The radio firmware is about 6Mb and an additional patch (0.25Mb) is required to resolve the call waiting problem.
hipppo
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upload here my friend or u can upload to 4shared or mediafire
If it doesn't affect the OS rom, why is it doing a clean boot?
Hippo, mail it to me [email protected], I'll find a way to upload it. Is it fixing the auto shutdown issue btw.
hipppo said:
And by the way this is an official hp firmware pack... with the standard hp executable that patches your radio firmware to v0.89. No messing around with SD-cards or flash files is required, it just runs through a USB/activesync connection.
It does not affect the OS firmware - whatever OS ROM image you have (whether WM6 or WM6.1) will not be affected.
However, it will cause a clean boot so you'll need to reinstall any non-ROM software and data.
hipppo
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hi hipppo,
but who gives ou this radio fw? or did HP return you a 614 with radio fw 0.89?
hipppo, use free www.rapidshare.com upload (free temporary storing for files smaller than 100MB) or axlastro proposal, asap
No matter how it work and what after cleanboot - we will check it quick
hipppo, what about mentioned low audio signals level fixing? Is this also corrected in this upgrade?
hipppo
It is a very good news. Please, send it to me via mail (sergiorus#gmail.com), i will integrate it to Yevg001 ROM.
For gmail it must be compressed with 7-zip or other not serviced by gmail. Each exe, also compressed with rar/zip, will not be transferred by gmail....
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For gmail it must be compressed with 7-zip or other not serviced by gmail. Each exe, also compressed with rar/zip, will not be transferred by gmail....
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Well i just compress it with RAR and rename the file *[email protected] - and voila , gmail is tricked. I was actually going to put it in free rapidshare too or on ipmart. I hope they fixed the ipaq shutting down at 30% but probably they haven't.
Excellent news!!!
I wasn't able to find it on HP webpage.
Could anyone send it to me please?
[email protected]
Very much appreciated.
Dan
axlastro
Try to download and install SP38904, as wrote our friend jovanny from 4pda.ru, it fixes this problem on some 614c devices. Bootloader should be then 1.01.00, not 1.01.05. Pls know that as he fund it is the problem of some incompatibility of 1.01.05. with some hardware subversions of 614c. SP38905 works already wrong, seek just for SP38904.
axlastro, where is this link to 0.89???? . Understand you have this already?
Nope, i don't have it, I was just referring to my proposal to hippo to e-mail it to me and I wrote i was going to use rapidshare to upload it, when i have it. I don't have it. Sorry, must be my bad English
Sorry, you wrote "Well i just compress it" and I was full of hope that "it" is "it" - it means 0.89 .
However try this SP38904 to solve your 30% battery problem.
Thanks. I will Does it have sopething to do with the sd card? I use a sdhc 4gb - could it be the card causing the promlems. Sorry for the offtopic. Hippo c'mon give us the 0.89 we need it so bad.
No it is HP upgrade executed by usb.
It is available here:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...9337-1&prodTypeId=215348&prodSeriesId=3544356
hipppo, don't sleep, pls

Windows Mobile 6.5 for BA's little bro

I was wondering if it would be possible to take a BA Windows Mobile 6.5 rom and put it on to a Harrier/PPC-6600.
I'm sure this has been asked before, I just haven't found it.
I believe the only differences between the two devices are:
Harrier: BlueAngel:
64 MB ROM 96 MB ROM
No WiFi WiFi
CDMA GSM?
We could remove the WiFi module/software and then we wouldn't need the extra 32MB of ROM (hehe because I'm sure it would take 32MB ).
I have little programming experience (conversational in Flash, a few words in Python) but a fair knowledge of computers and I do have a Harrier so I could test it out(provided there's less than a 50% chance of bricking it) and help out to try to get it working if I had instructions.
Is this possible or should I just stick with WM 2003 SE?
If this question has been asked 3428930480328 times, then I apologize.
Thanks in advance .
It actually has been asked before
Next time you have questions, please post them in the Q&A section. Opening new threads is only for contributions to the forum (roms, kitchens, themes, etc).
To answer your question, no one has been able to port anything over 2003 to the Harrier. There are many major differences aside from the ones that you have already mentioned, which are substantial in the first place. Hope this answers your question.
It can be done you would just need to write a bootloader from scratch, one which can support wince 5.0.
What are the other major substantial differences?
A previous post from GnatGoSplat suggested that the following steps should make a GSM ROM work on a CDMA phone.
To make this work, you would have to:
1. Dump your WM5 ROM.
2. Separate dump into SYS and OEM packages.
3. Extract XIP.
4. Build new XIP with WM6.1 MSXIPKERNEL.
5. Build new IMGFS with new WM6.1 SYS folder.
6. G'Reloc the entire ROM.
7. BuildOS to create a dump.
8. Use Tadzio's tools to create a .bin, then to a .nb file.
9. Flash the .nb file.
This is sure to work, but isn't simple to do. If you're new to ROM cooking in general, you'll have a lot to learn before you can even attempt this. I've been cooking ROMs for 4-months and I still have a lot to learn.
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I'd really like to get this to work. I have the time to donate and I'm a quick learner.
Are the steps shown above accurate in this context?
michael-knight said:
What are the other major substantial differences?
A previous post from GnatGoSplat suggested that the following steps should make a GSM ROM work on a CDMA phone.
I'd really like to get this to work. I have the time to donate and I'm a quick learner.
Are the steps shown above accurate in this context?
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Here is the thing... WM5 was never ported to the Harrier, so going from WM2003, you need to do something far substantially different to what you described.
Again, it has not been done. I am not saying it is impossible, but no one has done it.
Update and some questions
After much research and screwing around lol, I attempted to extract a Harrier rom using xda3nbftool.exe . Unfortunately, using the password "0x20040521" gave me the "WARNING: this does not look like a nbf header, possible you provided the wrong password" error.
So, I compared it to a BlueAngel rom that WOULD extract using a hex editor to try and figure out what the difference was, and at the address 0x20040521 (I assumed that's what the "password" meant), there is no difference.
In fact, there are NO differences after 12MB in the file. That means AT LEAST 20MB of a Harrier ROM is IDENTICAL to that of a BlueAngel rom.
It's not like there's even 12 MB worth of differences - there's far less than that. I would guess around 5 or 6 worth. What I said was that 12MB into the file, there are none. In that 12MB, there are similarities still - I'm just too lazy atm to total it up
Anyway, that was just to prove how similar the Harrier is to the BlueAngel for some more support over here on the CDMA side of things (although that 20MB of similarity is probably just Windows Mobile 2003SE ).
My question is, why won't xda3nbftool.exe produce a usable result if the address it looks at is about 6.6 MB after the end of differences and start of 100% similarity?
Also, I have my own Harrier's rom dumped (using d2s, haven't done anything to it after that). How do I turn this into a nk.nbf file or split it into SYS and OEM? I've done much googling. The things I've tried so far have failed.
michael-knight said:
After much research and screwing around lol, I attempted to extract a Harrier rom using xda3nbftool.exe . Unfortunately, using the password "0x20040521" gave me the "WARNING: this does not look like a nbf header, possible you provided the wrong password" error.
So, I compared it to a BlueAngel rom that WOULD extract using a hex editor to try and figure out what the difference was, and at the address 0x20040521 (I assumed that's what the "password" meant), there is no difference.
In fact, there are NO differences after 12MB in the file. That means AT LEAST 20MB of a Harrier ROM is IDENTICAL to that of a BlueAngel rom.
It's not like there's even 12 MB worth of differences - there's far less than that. I would guess around 5 or 6 worth. What I said was that 12MB into the file, there are none. In that 12MB, there are similarities still - I'm just too lazy atm to total it up
Anyway, that was just to prove how similar the Harrier is to the BlueAngel for some more support over here on the CDMA side of things (although that 20MB of similarity is probably just Windows Mobile 2003SE ).
My question is, why won't xda3nbftool.exe produce a usable result if the address it looks at is about 6.6 MB after the end of differences and start of 100% similarity?
Also, I have my own Harrier's rom dumped (using d2s, haven't done anything to it after that). How do I turn this into a nk.nbf file or split it into SYS and OEM? I've done much googling. The things I've tried so far have failed.
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Since it seems that you are really inclined into making this work... I guess I can try to point you were you can get more info since I don't know much about porting stuff myself
Check in the Himalaya section. There is a porting guide (I believe by Ather90), which goes into a lot of the stuff that you are asking about. Unfortunately for us, cooking nbf files is a lost art and very few people in this forum will be able to help you (Da_G probably being one of them)
michael-knight said:
I was wondering if it would be possible to take a BA Windows Mobile 6.5 rom and put it on to a Harrier/PPC-6600.
I'm sure this has been asked before, I just haven't found it.
I believe the only differences between the two devices are:
Harrier: BlueAngel:
64 MB ROM 96 MB ROM
No WiFi WiFi
CDMA GSM?
We could remove the WiFi module/software and then we wouldn't need the extra 32MB of ROM (hehe because I'm sure it would take 32MB ).
I have little programming experience (conversational in Flash, a few words in Python) but a fair knowledge of computers and I do have a Harrier so I could test it out(provided there's less than a 50% chance of bricking it) and help out to try to get it working if I had instructions.
Is this possible or should I just stick with WM 2003 SE?
If this question has been asked 3428930480328 times, then I apologize.
Thanks in advance .
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Lots of us waiting for such thing. Good luck!
Sorry to bump the thread, but now my real world things have came to an end with exams being over and such.
I sent a private message at the beginning of this month to Ather90 and Da_G but neither of them have replied. If anyone has any suggestions or advice, please let me know.
michael-knight said:
Sorry to bump the thread, but now my real world things have came to an end with exams being over and such.
I sent a private message at the beginning of this month to Ather90 and Da_G but neither of them have replied. If anyone has any suggestions or advice, please let me know.
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Da_G has been somewhat absent lately and (my mistake) Ather90 is now Ather. Try to send him a message and see if he replies.

Help with an old PDA

Hi everybody!
First of all i want to apologize for my bad grammar, englis is not my native..
I have a friend who's got an old pc pocket 2003SE. He asked me if i can install other language in it.
i have actually mannaged to do this but the problem is, when the battary runs out of power, the device erases every installed app on it, including the lang app.
So i thought about the option of installing a brand new OS with the lang i want build in it. Is this even possible?
Ill be grateful for any piece of info about it
I'm afraid I can't give you the final answer, but I can point out some places where you need to give more information to make it possible anyone to help you.
I think your English is clear enough, but for anyone to give you useful help, they would need to know the make and model of the device you are working on? Installations of PocketPC are adapted by the manufacturers for each of their models. Also, what method are you using to install the new language. I can't imagine why all your apps disappear, the make and model might give a clue. And, with that information, you should be able to ask your question in the appropriate sub-forum.
Prior to WM5, (WM2003SE and older) programs not installed on a memory card and user data were actually installed into the RAM. There was a backup battery to power the RAM when the main battery failed so that user programs, etc were not lost. But as these devices get older the backup battery may not hold a charge so when the main battery runs out of juice the RAM is wiped.
What is the model? It may be able to be upgraded. My old Dell Axim x50 came with 2003SE but it had an official upgrade to WM5 and unofficial WM 6.1 and 6.5 ROMs.
spunker88 said:
Prior to WM5, (WM2003SE and older) programs not installed on a memory card and user data were actually installed into the RAM.
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Only true, if user accepted this default behaviour. It's always possible to change this.
jwoegerbauer said:
Only true, if user accepted this default behaviour. It's always possible to change this.
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There was also a ROM partition and the memory card, but I don't think you'd have that option with user system data like extra languages that the OP mentioned. It's been a while since I used 2003SE so I could be wrong.
I forgot to mention that there is no manufacturer sign in any part of the device.. probably generic. The model writen under the battary is PH20A2.
Idk what it belongs, maybe you have a good guess
TY for all the help, i appreciate it
welcome to XDA.
with old PDA, you can user defaur rom for use
The model writen under the battary is PH20A2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=244534
Ok i have mannaged to locate the exect model of the device, its HTC Harrier \ blue eagle (not sure which one..). Wiki said that theirs an unofficial rom upegrade to 6.5, is it true? i got no clue how i do it, and if i can pick the lang i want.
EDIT :
Didnt noticed u have found the model ahead of me.. Thanks for the help but thers one problem, i dont anderstand why i need to unlocke it or from what. the guy in the link above wants to change an ESN. If someone can explain it to me like im a retarded, ill appreciate it.
Jump =]
Ill be greatful for some help
thanks! it was also a great help for me!
panahi said:
...when the battary runs out of power, the device erases every installed app on it, including the lang app...
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If the device has a small battery, separate from the main battery, then replacing that small (backup) battery with a fresh full battery could solve your problem?

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