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Rom update problem

Hi
I downloaded the rom update from o2 website in ireland and tried to install it, it the told me that i needed to find a compatible version any ideas any 1. I am running the Q-Tek XDA same thing just branded differently. Also my unit has ver 3.14 on but i cannot find function to keep gprs online. Please assist
Thanks
Waiman

I have exactly the saeme problem. MDA is PWA10A2, the update is for PWA10A1 and thus doesn't flash. (except for radio which I updated already).
You can use the ROM Image tool from here, it needs a 32MB SD card and a PC SD card reader but it is supposed to be risky.
Anybody tried updating to this ROM on PWA10A2 before we burn our machines? >

Get your self a FAQ with a description for a language change. Then patch that file according to that FAQ, do not change the language but the phone type. that's all.
** Remember, you might loos guaranty, it might fail or your device might get broken ! **

Can I revert to the older ROM (the working ROM) then? The bootloader should work anyway?

I can't see the FAQ though, is it PPC general or MDA/XDA specific?

I patched the ROM (rewrote the desired ID of XDA to match with my MDA ), flashed and... guess what... it works

I have the Official T-mobile Windows Mobile 2003 ROM!!!!

I have in my power right now which is supposedly the final T-mobile Windows mobile 2003 release.
From the source that I got it from:
I got my hands on a T-Mobile 2003 release for PPCPE!
This is a pretty complete build, and it also updates your radio stack.
Usual disclaimers apply.
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I tried doing it but it tells me that my device is not compatible with the program. I'm guessing is because I'm running the 2003 version that is been circling around the web. Also, I have the AT&T Radio Stack update. I'll try to Restore the original ROM, and then upgrade tomorrow.
One weird thing though, the readme file looks like like the last upgrade that they did (old). It menctions that updates the Media Player to 8.5, whereas the WM2K3 has the WMP 9.0, hmmmm...weird.
Whoever wants to try it, and gives me his FTP server in the next 20 min gets it! is late and I'm going to sleep, if not I'll send it to you guys tomorrow

Update!!!, I couldn't wait and I did the upgrade!!!
once you downgrade things get easier.
Bootimage that says T-mobile "Test Only Not for Sale" :lol:
Rom Version 4.00.10 ENG
ROM date: 06/20/03
Radio Version: 6.24.00
Microsoft Pocket PC Version 4.20.1081 (Build 13100)
I will keep updated!! As I play with it
UPDATE:. One of the programs included is ClearVue PDF and ClearView Presentation. Also AOL AIM!
Also, in the Network settings, there is an "auto pick" and the regular GPRS and VPN GPRS
GPRS is ZIPPPPY!!!
The OS seems very stable and fast, of course, I don't have anything installed. I gotta get some sleep, so, I'll catch up tomorrow, (or later for that matter)

What is the difference from the version 4.00.05 that is available here on the forum? Is it better or more stable (less bugs)?
You think I can flash the just the ROM of T-Mobile version over my xda Asian version without flashing the radio stack?
Does it have the Media Player 9 or still 8.5? And if it's the official release, why does it say "Test only not for sale" on the boot up screen?
Thanks in advance.

Yorch, can you temporary put it in your website??
by the way, its down for quite awhile already right?? what happened??

Thanks to Yorch:
ftp://ftp.alain-net.net
Usr: xda
Pwd: xda
There are 2 ROMs there:
- official-tmo2003.rar (the exe with Radio update)
- 4.00.10 NK.nbf.zip (only the ROM (nk.nbf) without the Radio part)
EDIT:
I haven't tested TMO2003 myself, so be carefull, especially on a non-Tmobile phone because ther is a RADIO update included inside. Maybe we can split the package, but I have to check that later.
(Thanks ejdmoo)

Remember people, this next release from Tmobile includes a radio update. This is the realm where "just reflash with a different ROM" doesn't work.

Remember people, this next release from Tmobile includes a radio update. This is the realm where "just reflash with a different ROM" doesn't work.
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Are you saying you can't just use the extracted NK.nbf file on its own to do a SD flash?

You can do that, but don't run the EXE if you do not want to update your radio stack.

Radio 6.24.00... so it's 900/1900, right?

Gave it a quick try but going back to 4.00.05.
Problems with phone part, no GPRS signal. and obvious T-Mobile branding.
Was interested in AIM but was not built into ROM or at least I couldn't see it :roll:

ZeroXtreme said:
What is the difference from the version 4.00.05 that is available here on the forum? Is it better or more stable (less bugs)?
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Supposedly yeah, is newer as you can see by the number (4.00.05--->4.00.10)
You think I can flash the just the ROM of T-Mobile version over my xda Asian version without flashing the radio stack?
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I don't see why not, I will try to extract the ROM image later, when I get home. We might be able to cook it too in the kitchen
Does it have the Media Player 9 or still 8.5? And if it's the official release, why does it say "Test only not for sale" on the boot up screen?
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Yeah, is Windows Mobile 2003, so It does have WMP9, the readme file I guess Is just the old one, this file is not the Final and Official Release, is the T-mobile release of it, I'm guessing is the Pre-release version and used for testing, and you should considered as such. (if you want to only run whatever is official then don't run it, But If you want to be in the bleeding edge then go ahead and do it). I'm assuming once they are ready for prime time, they will rewrite the Readme file, and take out the bootimage "Test only".
Yorch, can you temporary put it in your website??
by the way, its down for quite awhile already right?? what happened??
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Unfortunately, I'm using my current ISP (Earthlink), which only gives you 10MB of space and limited bandwidth, If someone would be willing to donate Webspace (around 10MB) I would certainly appreciate it (and the community too). I would love to host all the ROMS for people to have a central location and easy access to them, and have a kitchen where people can customize their own ROM, but unfortunately, I don't have the space
Was interested in AIM but was not built into ROM or at least I couldn't see it
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Yeah, is not ovbious, is in the \Windows directory, just create a shortcut to Programs, and that's it. (is pretty much the same as PAC-MAN was hidden in the 1st ROM release [OZONE].

I've alreay extracted the nk.nbf and put it on my FTP.
My FTP is limitted to 5 connections and 45 Kbyte/s. So it is a little slow because when there are 5 users connected you should get around 9KBps. But I guess you guys (and girls ) don't mind since my FTP has continually 5 connections since I put it on my FTP.

Another news from the source of this file:
I got this from a source deep in Tmobile land. I was told this is VERY close the the final release they'll make in August. It is WM2003 that has been customized for tmobile.
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How do you install a RAR file?
I have searched for this info on google and on xda and I cannot find.
Thank you in advance.

You can open it with Winrar or Powerarchiver and a lot of other compression programs.
Good luck

Upgrades
It is posted at http://www.romanweb.com/yorch/official-tmo2003.rar as well. If someone can get me a copy of the .nbf file or if I can get it from the listed ftp then I will post it as well.

Re: Upgrades
andygee said:
It is posted at http://www.romanweb.com/yorch/official-tmo2003.rar as well. If someone can get me a copy of the .nbf file or if I can get it from the listed ftp then I will post it as well.
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Ok nbf is there now as well.
http://www.romanweb.com/yorch/nk.nbf

Question...?
I have a question, if I load up the test rom on my T-Mo, will I be able to load the final release without a hitch or should i back up my orignal rom before??

Its always a good idea to backup your ROM and I strongly suggest doing so!

one question, I got an XDA with me, I know I will **** up my radio by loading in the PPC 2003 final edition..is there anyway which i can run the update without upgrading the radio stack??
thanks

Modified ROMs. Please Read

My ROMs seem to have made it to a more permanent home. Praise be to the moderators and site designers. They can all be found here:
O2 162 ROM with the O2 crap removed and Radio version 1.04:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Ext-1.11.162_Radio-1.04_O2stuffstripped.rar
O2 162 ROM and Radio version 1.04:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_XDA_IIi_Upgrade_v1.11.162_Radio_1.04.rar
162 ROM with O2 crap removed, Radio 1.04, improved camera and extra Bluetooth profiles:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Radio-1.04_O2stuffstripped_Camera_Fixed.rar
Standard 162 ROM, Radio 1.04, improved camera and extra Bluetooth profiles:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_v1.11.162_Radio_1.04_Camera_Fixed.rar

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xdaIIi best rom
Helo Pug,
I am not an expert in this area. I have currently the french rom which I find not very stable... I am planning to switch to this new rom 1.11.162 1.04. I obviously dont need the O2 stuff. There is apparently a patch to correct the crappy camera.
So when I look into the folder your are mentionning which rom should I download?
Some of them are modified, updated, cooked, baked...
Also, after the upgrade, should I configurate anything related to the telephone/country operator?
I am a bit lost, could you please help?
Many thanks
Sayborg

pug said:
My ROMs seem to have made it to a more permanent home. Praise be to the moderators and site designers. They can all be found here:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Alpine/
Under Modified ROMs and another obviously titled folder.
Happy modding.
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Pug: Would you tell me details of each folder in your tree??? Try to guess it but can't because of too short.

here the latest one....
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Alpine/O2_Roms_Camera_Fixed_Bug/
download the O2stuffstripped if you're not using O2 operator....

O2 162 ROM with the O2 crap removed and Radio version 1.04:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Ext-1.11.162_Radio-1.04_O2stuffstripped.rar
O2 162 ROM and Radio version 1.04:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_XDA_IIi_Upgrade_v1.11.162_Radio_1.04.rar
162 ROM with O2 crap removed, Radio 1.04, improved camera and extra Bluetooth profiles:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Radio-1.04_O2stuffstripped_Camera_Fixed.rar
Standard 162 ROM, Radio 1.04, improved camera and extra Bluetooth profiles:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_v1.11.162_Radio_1.04_Camera_Fixed.rar

Ok, now why isn't this a sticky?

Oh, great. Thank pug for soon respond. I've just try the last and feel good.

Hi @Pug!
Is it totally remove O2 Active UI in my PPC? If like that, I will trying now. Thanks

Phuong: don't what you want. If you browse Pug's directory, you must find that there are two version:
+ one is keepping as much as original from O2 (of course, adding radio and bluetooth profile)
+ one with extended rom (pug call it stripped).
If you don't want O2 Active UI and insist on using original rom, you can choose Corporation and code is 0506. You must know that Pug have posted 2 plugins of O2 (battery and time) for today screen.
Have fun.

Backup and restore
Just a quick question...
If you perform a backup using ActiveSync then do an upgrade with one of Pugs Roms, having completed the upgrade is it possible to apply the restore from ActiveSync to reinstate all the setting/contacts etc you previously had?
Tom

yup yup! better using Sprite Backup....

Backups
OK
So I avoid ActiveSync and use Sprite, hate to be a pain an' all, anyone got link to hand for Sprite?
You may well be able to solve another issue for me here...
Am I right in guessing that if you are changing between ROMS for a similar OS on the same device that backups are OK, but if you are changing ROMS for a different OS the device basically becomes a so different backups are no use?
Tom

Query on Device Info
Evening folks
Just completed the update to Pugs 162 ROM, third from the list at the top.
I used Sprite to backup before I started, update went without issue, then used Sprite to restore afterwards.
The only thing that puzzled me was when I checked the Device Information screen I see:
ROM Version 1.11.00 WWE
Radio Verson 1.04.00
ExtROM Version 1.11.112 WWE
Is this correct, kind of expected to see162 in there somewhere, has the restore from Sprite sent me partially back again?
Tom

hi,
If you wish to change the version number yourself, use a registry editor and go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\3RDVERSION and change the MSYSTEM value to whatever you like.
thanks

clustered said:
hi,
If you wish to change the version number yourself, use a registry editor and go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\3RDVERSION and change the MSYSTEM value to whatever you like.
thanks
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OK, so I take it from your reply that the revisions are correct for a successful update? I don't care if it is simply displaying the wrong number.
Being the first time I had upgraded and restored data afterwards I was worried in case the restore had possibly returned any thing to the my original ROM state.
Tom

Restoring files after a RoM upgrade is a waste of time as all you do is replace new files with old, you're better off just copying files you want to keep to your SD card and backing up your contacts.

pug said:
Restoring files after a RoM upgrade is a waste of time as all you do is replace new files with old, you're better off just copying files you want to keep to your SD card and backing up your contacts.
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Ah the Man himself!
Thanks for your work chap.
OK, so if I do quick hard reset, that'll return me to your ROM as installed then I can just install the stuff I require, do a swift sync of contacts etc from Outlook and I'll be cooking on gas?
One small thing I discovered on the way to work this morning, the phone works fine on the handset, but although it dials and appeas 'in call' through the BT headset, I can't hear anything nor can the other party hear me. I did notice some....data noise (ahh the days of listening to modems).... when the BT headset opens a communication.
Tom

Tom,
What version of ROM are yu currently using, as found to my horror that the .169 version sucks with connection to Bluetooth devices, even the ones O2 recommend....
Have found the only stable version for bluetooth connectivity is .162... , albeit a step backwards....
God bless o2....

chris.ireland said:
Tom,
What version of ROM are yu currently using, as found to my horror that the .169 version sucks with connection to Bluetooth devices, even the ones O2 recommend....
Have found the only stable version for bluetooth connectivity is .162... , albeit a step backwards....
God bless o2....
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God something O2 certainly!
I'm using Pugs 162 from the top of this thread (the 3rd one without the O2 junk in it, but with the Bluetooth and Camera changes)
Seems to be working fine so far.
I meant to post a follow up regarding my Bluetooth problem, I think I might have failed to read the screen properly and chosen the High Quality rather than headset otpion.
Tom

Deathnoise 1.11.171 ROM. Bluetooth patched, camera fixed. Radio 1.04

Hi,
Here's my own modification. I did id for my own purpose, and decided to share it with you.
As a Base, I choosed 1.11.171 version of O2 ROM.
I stripped it from o2 stuff, left only necessary files. I added extra bluetooth profiles and left bluetooth and camera patch from new version (pug's version doesn't have it, despite what he says in his posts on this forum)
I also added Radio 1.04 from Pug's release.
Enjoy
alpine-1.11.171-radio-1.04-bluetooth-patched-camera-fixed.rar [45 MB]
alternate downloads:
Mirror 1
Mirror 2
And if you used it, please - give me a feedback. thanks

deathnoise said:
Hi,
Here's my own modification. I did id for my own purpose, and decided to share it with you.
As a Base, I choosed 1.11.171 version of O2 ROM.
I stripped it from o2 stuff, left only necessary files. I added extra bluetooth profiles and left bluetooth and camera patch from new version (pug's version doesn't have it, despite what he says in his posts on this forum)
I also added Radio 1.04 from Pug's release.
Enjoy
alpine-1.11.171-radio-1.04-bluetooth-patched-camera-fixed.rar [45 MB]
And if you used it, please - give me a feedback. thanks
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Thanks for your sharing man, but the download link is not available now as what I saw as follows, would you plz provide another working link:
Dear users!
Our service temporarily limits the work due to technical problems. We will continue to maintain it in 1,5 months and we hope for your understanding. In this time we will improve Files-upload.com and we will present the more flawless and fast service to you. We hope for your understanding. Watch the news. Thanks that you worked with us, we are waiting for you on the updated site.
尊敬的国用户!
因为技术问题我们的服务暂时中断,我们将在一个半月之后继续我们的服务,希望您能够谅解。在此期间,我们将改进Files-upload.com,以便为您提供更优质快捷的服务,我们期望得到您的理解。请关注我们的动态,感谢您对我们的支持,希望我们优化后的网站能继续为您服务。

hmm. it's working again.. i think that hey had some minor technical issues. should be ok.

Is there improved radio strength, stability? What does .171 improve?

yes
radio was taken from pug's release (162).. which is good, because it's more stable than official 1.0
apart from this, there's patched bluetooth driver, that was officialy released by o2. _THE SAME_ that previously was circulating around this forum.
i merged it with extra profiles taken from previous releases, because some people experienced a tiny set of options with this upgrade.
camera fix was also merged from the new, official 171 release. dunno what it does, because i'm not using this function
overall, the stability is the same because main rom version is the same. it doesn't change anything in windows core. changes were made only to the extended rom. that's it.
i have many applications (including startup ones, like: spb pocketplus, resco explorer, skype, agile messenger, etc.)
i'm using my rom for a week and I, personally, didn't experienced ANY hangs or resets. it's working like a charm.

deathnoise said:
yes
radio was taken from pug's release (162).. which is good, because it's more stable than official 1.0
apart from this, there's patched bluetooth driver, that was officialy released by o2. _THE SAME_ that previously was circulating around this forum.
i merged it with extra profiles taken from previous releases, because some people experienced a tiny set of options with this upgrade.
camera fix was also merged from the new, official 171 release. dunno what it does, because i'm not using this function
overall, the stability is the same because main rom version is the same. it doesn't change anything in windows core. changes were made only to the extended rom. that's it.
i have many applications (including startup ones, like: spb pocketplus, resco explorer, skype, agile messenger, etc.)
i'm using my rom for a week and I, personally, didn't experienced ANY hangs or resets. it's working like a charm.
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Thanks for taking the time to clarify for me .

cant download

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cant download
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added additional mirrors. enjoy

nice to see that someone still cares about Alpine and cooking new-old rom
it's a kind consolation when we don't (and probably won't) have wm5
Thanks!

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added additional mirrors. enjoy
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TKS buddy, they work!
BTW, my ROM is 1.11.171 too, but it suspends sometime, how is your ROM?
TKS again!

abc138 said:
TKS buddy, they work!
BTW, my ROM is 1.11.171 too, but it suspends sometime, how is your ROM?
TKS again!
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so try it!
you have nothing to loose

deezer said:
so try it!
you have nothing to loose
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Sure I will loose many programs installed and lot of time if it suspends as my old one...

I've got a questions regarding upgrading my O2
ROM version: 1.11.00 WWE
ROM date : 01/27/05
Radio version: 1.00.00
Protocol version: 1337.39
ExtROM version: 1.11.923 WWE
can I apply the ROM which you compile ?
does it means that I'll lose all of my apps settings then :-|

abc138 said:
Sure I will loose many programs installed and lot of time if it suspends as my old one...
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...and suspends as well
AlbertWT said:
can I apply the ROM which you compile ?
does it means that I'll lose all of my apps settings then :-|
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sure you can, and yes you'll lose everything (like after hard-reset)

My Alpine is dead
Yesterday I tried to update my alpine to this new Rom, but dissaster happened.
Maupgrade recognized my device and my version, and I told the program to begin with the update.
After more than 3 hours the scrren was blank with usb v1.01.
I took the pda and trie to hard reset it but it has been imposible.
Now the screen only says serial v1.01 or usb v1.01
If i try to re-run the maupgrade it only says that is checking the information of my device and stays like that for hours.
what can I do to have my PDA back?????
HEEELLLPPP

airjordan said:
Yesterday I tried to update my alpine to this new Rom, but dissaster happened.
Maupgrade recognized my device and my version, and I told the program to begin with the update.
After more than 3 hours the scrren was blank with usb v1.01.
I took the pda and trie to hard reset it but it has been imposible.
Now the screen only says serial v1.01 or usb v1.01
If i try to re-run the maupgrade it only says that is checking the information of my device and stays like that for hours.
what can I do to have my PDA back?????
HEEELLLPPP
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if you still have the screen saying serial v1.01 or usb v1.01, your device isn't bricked. maybe try other rom upgrade

Still No Luck
I have tries to install again the same ROM but there is no way of doing it. Maupgrade freezes saying "checking infromation from your device".
Any other ideas??
Do you know where could i find an spanish rom for my qtek 2020i, or any other Rom that I could try??
thanks in advance
I still need HHHEEELLLPPPPP

airjordan said:
I have tries to install again the same ROM but there is no way of doing it. Maupgrade freezes saying "checking infromation from your device".
Any other ideas??
Do you know where could i find an spanish rom for my qtek 2020i, or any other Rom that I could try??
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Dude, this happens sometimes. Take it out of cradle and then take the battery out. Re-insert the battery again and put it in the cradle and then re-run the maupgrade.

I have solved the problem!!!
I have tried doing it on a windows xp based computer and everything worked fine.
Has anybody had the same problem with windows vista???
Does any body know how can I find an spanish rom???
Thanks for your help

vista isn't good for flashing any htc device

Desperate situation with P735 ROM upgrade - Please help

Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.

AsusP said:
Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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for desktop PCs ! if you have by example W7 in French and want to put it in English - I mean to get English package by update- this will not work if you have an OEM license -this is not allowed!
so is that with OEMs if you want to keep license !
for your PDA you must find an unofficial English ROM only! also a way to write it to the phone BUT for this to work DO NOT use Active Sync!
I can't give you more details because don't have a PDA like yours but this problem is interesting
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AsusP said:
Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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try a way to write firmware without Active Sync read this post to see you need some way like that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-378907.html
ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/IA/P735 doesn't works more you have to find somewere a firmware in English as I see no longer Asus support they say this is deprecated sorry to hear that

Hi Ruscan and thank you for your interest in this topic, being the first person to react at all to this problem that has been left unsolved for many years, despite many other people posting about it earlier and who were left with neither solution nor answer/evidence of interest from the side of the developers. I do also think this is an interesting issue that could become even more actual in the future.
So far i was unable to find ANY unoffocial ROM for the P735. I do have the official one (Malaysia) in English though, from Asus's website, yet i do not know how to hack it and eventually install it. Furthermore, i was wondering whether an P750 or P535 ROM could work on a P735 with few modifications, cause the 735 is hardware-wise somewhere between the two.
I am ready to take the time to write the firmware myself yet i have no experience at all in that neither i know from where to start. If to write a new firware then it would be good to finally produce a WM6.1 version for this PDA, instead of the existing 6.0. How to do that, any idea?
Thank you for your explanation and for making this non-sense situation a little bit more clear.
PS: Also, i've read somewhere that the device won't turn-on anymore if upgraded to a different language, does that apply to an update via SD-card as well?
PS2: Installing the Android system on this device would be an option?

..i wonder what would ASUS.UnlockLangID.exe do with your problem..
what's this all about:
p525 had similar problem, that could result in NOT real bricking of device after flash(wrong languague version after reset - device seem to be locked on bootloader then). when tool is used before flash, custom lang roms are working properly(interesting then, what this tool does, btw, as it is launched from WM - so, it may be microflasher, or sth like that).
now...i have strong feeling, that warnings you read about flashing different lang rom, may be related to this ridiculous, small, problem.
issue is, that i do not know, if ASUS.UnlockLangID.exe may help with p735, OR if there's version made for p735.
update: i read this again, slowly:
"Cross-language upgrade is not allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
...they tell you about upgrade TOOL, not rom.
hmmm, so.. what, if you use tool in languague of...ROM?
maybe unlocklangid code is inside flasher, so using proper updater with proper rom is simple solution?
on the other hand - i am making roms for asuses for years, and i never used default flash method - vide usbloader method(and force mode from BL).
i am not going to encourage you to go this way of thinking, but...

AsusP said:
Hi Ruscan and thank you for your interest in this topic, being the first person to react at all to this problem that has been left unsolved for many years, despite many other people posting about it earlier and who were left with neither solution nor answer/evidence of interest from the side of the developers. I do also think this is an interesting issue that could become even more actual in the future.
So far i was unable to find ANY unoffocial ROM for the P735. I do have the official one (Malaysia) in English though, from Asus's website, yet i do not know how to hack it and eventually install it. Furthermore, i was wondering whether an P750 or P535 ROM could work on a P735 with few modifications, cause the 735 is hardware-wise somewhere between the two.
I am ready to take the time to write the firmware myself yet i have no experience at all in that neither i know from where to start. If to write a new firware then it would be good to finally produce a WM6.1 version for this PDA, instead of the existing 6.0. How to do that, any idea?
Thank you for your explanation and for making this non-sense situation a little bit more clear.
PS: Also, i've read somewhere that the device won't turn-on anymore if upgraded to a different language, does that apply to an update via SD-card as well?
PS2: Installing the Android system on this device would be an option?
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sorry this is just to test my signature will be back but I do not think Android is an option for your phone it is all about technical specs to port Android on that phone and only Asus will have that
by example I know about a project named Andromnia this is how to use Android on Omnia-WM phone
nice try!! but believe me this is about reverse engineering and does not works for now- no gps/gprs/wifi signal and Android crashes

funny, that andromnia showed me, asus user, that android could be real for REAL PDA's.
andromnia works on p750 when proper kernel is used,
EOT/
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pupakota said:
funny, that andromnia showed me, asus user, that android could be real for REAL PDA's.
andromnia works on p750 when proper kernel is used, so i found ridiculous whining of ..omnia user here. where were users of omnia, when andoid on that device WAS real?
Now, go and focking buy android bs, you ignored andromnia maker for months, do not whine now.
well, HTC killed everything.
btw, is author of topic here?
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tell me, what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
cit:
You can extract ABI file and flash you device through SD card
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sooo..it seems, that updater BUG is reason, not roms itself here.
funny is, that rom cooking for this machine is quite real, if tools i can see are working.
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upd: ok, so, if i see it right, all you need is to:
fully charge battery,
extact exe, get abi,
copy abi to empty sd card(NOT SHDC!),
go to bootloader(hard to say how - try dpad right + soft reset) and
wait.
when update's done, do hard reset.
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of course, i cannot say at this moment, if whole process is safe, it works fine with zinc device(that seem to have identical flash procedures and SAME cross-lang error when manufacturer way of flashing is used(exe)).
i will try to get more info from my mate asap. cross your fingers, and wait a bit.
here's tool you may try to get abi file from original asus updater EXE file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368401
if it's not working, there's another one, maybe more universal,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511158
btw, are you from Pakistan?

Thanks all of you for your input.
1 - There is NO AsusUnlockLangID.exe for Asus P735 - do not know why.
The one from P535 or P525 is useless on this phone.
2 - Great point about "same-upgrade-tool-language-possibility" yet the official ROM comes in an .exe file that i do not know how to unpack/hack in order to insert the correct ROM or vice-versa.
Could you provide me with some insight for that?
3 - Besides that, do you think a tweaked P750 ROM could work on this phone, or a hybrid P535/735? Wouldn't that be the best/easiest solution, which would in the same way finally create a more advanced ROM for this quite neglected device? The older P535 has even 6.5 ROMs whereas P735 is limited to the basic 6.0. (Does that have any advantage by the way?)
4 - I am open to any way of flashing, given it provides the right result so all your advices are welcome.
Yes, the author is very present

@Pupakota
Ok, thank you, i've just read your last answer. I'm gonna try the tool you're talking about and inform you of the result.
PS: No, i'm not from Pakistan though i love the country, are you from there?
PS2: Any way to port the 6.1 version to P735, to kill two flies in one shot ?

3 - Besides that, do you think a tweaked P750 ROM could work on this phone, or a hybrid P535/735? Wouldn't that be the best/easiest solution, which would in the same way finally create a more advanced ROM for this quite neglected device? The older P535 has even 6.5 ROMs whereas P735 is limited to the basic 6.0. (Does that have any advantage by the way?)
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PS2: Any way to port the 6.1 version to P735, to kill two flies in one shot ?
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p750 is different pair of shoes, nothing would be useful in this case. do not try any roms made for different devices(trivia, i know).
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i dare to say, that any rom is possible for 735... while searching info, people made every possible build, including 6.5's...ALL chinese :E
rom from exe is exctractable, then fully dumpable, packages are clean and good...
btw, that ABI file is just a renamed rom.bin...
while Activesync method of EXE flashing is wrong, only way of avoiding problem is using SD card flash method then by using that pseudo "abi" file.
dpad to right + softreset should start flash procedure. if not, it may be some key on the right side of the device + soft reset(hard to understand translated chinese...).
but before you decide to try...
could you, AsusP, make photo of bootloader mode?
and please, post link of exe file you were trying to flash, i need it(i mean this english one). for some reason dumped rom from "WWE" version seem to be...hebrew... i really would extract real english rom.
now, only problem is, that besides of one case i did not see any clear information, if sd flash with languague change is safe.
one person wrote it is.

Hi, i'll get back to you ASAP regarding other questions, in the meanwhile here is the link of the firmware in question (that i'm trying to use) :
http://support.asus.com/Download.as...e=P735_FUU_Malaysia.zip#P735_FUU_Malaysia.zip

yup, this one seems to be exactly like one i tried to extract, indeed, it's wwe.
damn, it's OLD
it seems, that cooking custom roms is possible for this device without special problems. new 6.1 or 6.5 should work MUCH faster, than your actual one, or that wwe from asus...
try to make photo of bootloader, and tell me, which version of 735 do you have, 64 mb or 128 mb of ram?
ahh and one last question: do you have original updater with german version of rom, that you CAN flash(i mean, that you have now, in your device)? it may be neccesary, if you ever dare to make further experiments.

"try to make photo of bootloader, and tell me, which version of 735 do you have, 64 mb or 128 mb of ram?"
It is 64MB RAM, same as all Asus P7XX devices i guess, if not upgraded (mine is not).
Sorry, but how do you make photos of the bootloader? Do you mean the update tool?
"ahh and one last question: do you have original updater with german version of rom, that you CAN flash(i mean, that you have now, in your device)? it may be neccesary, if you ever dare to make further experiments."
I have it in the device yes but i don't have the program/CD if that's what you mean. It could be downloaded though from Asus i think...
PS: WWE stands for...?

Sorry, but how do you make photos of the bootloader?
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Bootloader mode flash(with unpacked from exe rom image on sd card) seem to be Only way to update your device.
I am trying to determine risk linked to this method, so i need photo of LOOK of bootloader mode.
You may enter BL mode by pressing dpad RIGHT and making soft reset, if i am right.
then something should appear, and this is what i want you to photograph it for me(with..camera).
of COURSE, do not put abi image on sd card YET, otherwise you start to update, and we do NOT know yet, if you brick your machine or not.
so, at this moment i just ant to see hot it look like, without flashing, if its typical 525/750 bootloader, not some weird thing, i'd assume, that abi file flashing should not brick machine.
sorry or enigmatic words, cannot explain this easier way.
It is 64MB RAM, same as all Asus P7XX devices i guess, if not upgraded (mine is not).
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..so not all 735's have 64 mb ram, i'd say, ok?
look, i do not know nothing about your knowledge level, many users of 750's with 128 mb ram are using 64 mb version of roms(typical noob would have no idea to try any different), this is why i mentioned it...
btw, besides using GanFan-ZincROMXtractor's easier way of obtaining rom file from exe is just using restorator, reshack, or similar tool to extract rom at res 152.
result is identical as using zincromextractor, though name of file must be set manually - it is Mars_G4.abi (though, it is not..real abi file, but it doesn't matter).
WWE stands for...?
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english rom...

what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?

xuanmei said:
what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
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hey, do you have account on one of chinese pda sites?
could you download and post here any 735 kitchen for me, sir?
i'd like to have a look onto it, but for some reason i am not able to register.

WWE World Wide English - got it.
Pupakota thanks a lot for your efforts, i've had a busy schedule these days, i'll paste you all the info soon.
My knowledge level is basic yet i have some experience of programing from before and i'm very keen to learn about this, more than just using the system.