Need help pertaining to CMOS battery on samsung focus - Focus General

HELP!!! Okay so I don't know if my problem is fixable, but here goes. My mom dropped her samsung focus in water and it stopped working so she bought a new one and gave me the one that was submerged in water. I took it apart and saw calcium deposits on the area where the lcd connects to the mother board so I cleaned it up with isopropyl. I turned the phone on and voila it worked. I'd been having trouble connecting it to my computer however and one day it was dying and I just let it die and ever since then It only went to the Samsung screen. I tried flashing the original rom cuz I assumed it bricked it self somehow but that didn't work. So anyway I decided to open it back up and i noticed that it looked like the cmos battery (I assume that's what it is) had some deposits built up on it so i tried scraping it off with a screw driver. In the process the whole battery pretty much separated from the mobo. I tried soldering it back down but I'm not sure if it has a good enough connection or if maybe the battery is no good as it looks pretty corroded. The stupid thing looks like its been spot welded to the metal arm that attaches to the mobo so I'm not even sure if I can replace it. The phone still boots up but hangs on the Samsung screen. Does anybody have any advice or interest in buying it for parts? I've been trying to get it running so I can sell it on ebay anyway. Any info will be much appreciated.

I'd suggest ordering a cheap battery from ebay or elsewhere, just to make sure that's where your problem is. Why sell it for a price lower than it's potentially worth because you can't verify that it still works 100%, when you can pick up a cheap battery, verify it (either way), then sell it as a working phone (or if it isn't the battery, act accordingly)?
Just my $0.02. I only say this because I've had good luck with "Aniker" batteries I got in a 2-pack+independent wall/usb/battery charger on ebay. The charger has the capability to charge a battery in the phone (micro-usb) AND/OR, charge a battery in it's battery port built in to the charger. Cost me about $20, definitely worth two extended-life (1800 vs 1500) batteries and charger that all work perfectly.
But, and I figured I'd add this, I don't know if the difference you could sell it for running vs your current description is worth the batteries and trouble. I wish I could help you with your hardware question, but I'm afraid I'm pretty ignorant in the design of batteries themselves.

sumorabbit said:
I'd suggest ordering a cheap battery from ebay or elsewhere, just to make sure that's where your problem is. Why sell it for a price lower than it's potentially worth because you can't verify that it still works 100%, when you can pick up a cheap battery, verify it (either way), then sell it as a working phone (or if it isn't the battery, act accordingly)?
Just my $0.02. I only say this because I've had good luck with "Aniker" batteries I got in a 2-pack+independent wall/usb/battery charger on ebay. The charger has the capability to charge a battery in the phone (micro-usb) AND/OR, charge a battery in it's battery port built in to the charger. Cost me about $20, definitely worth two extended-life (1800 vs 1500) batteries and charger that all work perfectly.
But, and I figured I'd add this, I don't know if the difference you could sell it for running vs your current description is worth the batteries and trouble. I wish I could help you with your hardware question, but I'm afraid I'm pretty ignorant in the design of batteries themselves.
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Well you see its not the regular battery. Its the tiny cmos battery attached to the motherboard and the two metal arms are spot welded to the battery so I don't even know how to get the battery out without completely ripping the arms off the motherboard.

weinerwad3000 said:
Well you see its not the regular battery. Its the tiny cmos battery attached to the motherboard and the two metal arms are spot welded to the battery so I don't even know how to get the battery out without completely ripping the arms off the motherboard.
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Maybe if you post a screenshot of the mobo/battery other people can help. I for one haven't seen how it looks...

Strange thing. So I left the phone plugged into the wall charger today and left for a good 10 hours and when i came back the phone was on and in perfect working order, except for not being able to get it to connect to zune. I took it apart again to take pictures of the cmos battery and when I put it back together I had the same problem as before with it stopping at the Samsung screen. Anyway, heres those pictures.
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Power Supply Warning

I've seen a post somewhere where members are stating that the phone sometimes stops charging from the power supply. I had this tonight and when playing around with the charger, could hear arcing. It's due to the slide in plug part not making good contact with the pins. Evidence of this is a blackening of one of the metal plates inside the socket part (not the pins on the main charger part). Suggest you check your charger, as prolonged arcing is not good.
Another one here, I'm afraid.
The main part of the adaptor has silly silly bits of sprung metal that are supposed to contact with the smaller plug part. Unfortunately, on mine the two parts are rather loose it sometimes does not connect.
I hope that my supplier won't want me to send the whole phone package back otherwise it's going to cost more than the value of the adaptor to send insured.
Keep an eye out for this, folks. As the previous poster suggested, it could cause overheating.
- Steve
Update :
HTC Europe have just returned my mains adaptor, still intermittently faulty.
I've sent them a stiff letter with images of the pitted and blackened contacts caused by the mains arcing.
If that doesn't produce an acceptable response, I shall escalate the issue to a third party because of the potential safety issue.
Update :
HTC returned my power supply saying that they cannot find anything wrong with it. Not happy !
Obviously, because the problem was intermittent, they must have tested it briefly and not seen the problem.
I wrote to HTC UK enclosing pictures of the burned and pitted contacts. No reply.
I imagine that I shall now have to persue warranty through the original dealer (Handtec, who don't really want to know anything about faults after the first few days, but nevertheless have a legal obligation to resolve the issue).
Unfortunately I can just see myself going round in circles with HTC again. Grrrr!
Since its not a computer item you have to prove that it isnt working, which technically shouldnt be to hard since you have burn marks, if they continue to say noting id be temped to get a qualified second opinion from someone and get it on letter headed paper, if they refuse to do anything after that you can say you have expanded all reasonable efforts to fix this issue with themselves (HTC) which is a potentially life threatening issue, you have not had a satisfactory responce to date (DATE IT) and if you have still not recieved a reply / replacement within 14 days, the next communication will be from my solicitor, where matters will be taken further, on the grounds of faulty electrical goods proven to be faulty and not being replaced.
Try that and see what happens, course getting a solicitor might cost an arm an a leg for the cost of what? a £20 power adaptor...
Yes, it's frustrating.
I should have no problem getting an assessment from a qualified engineer - I work as an electronics engineer myself in a safety-critical industry (aerospace).
I'll give Handtec fair chance to solve my problem first before wheeling out the big guns ;-)
Here's an enlarged photo of the contact inside the plug half of the adaptor. You can see where it has started to arc :
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im sure trading standards would love to take this up for you
dont forget your rights under sale of goods act or the european act of similar powers (cant recall the name
and it isnt up to you to prove it is faulty, its up to them to prove its not
the pictures look clear cut to me, serious design fault
bbc watchdog anyone?
My charger did this too!
Called up orange and they sent me an entire new handset and i had to give back the old charger, battery and phone. Leaving me with 2 8gb cards, 2 spare stylus', 2 cases etc...
So i'm not complaining
Jake
My HTC charger stopped working just a few minutes ago, luckily i had a 750mA USB charger which i bought for 5 bucks lying around and that works perfectly, charging it with that now.

[Q] Changing the battery for Acer A500

Batteries performance degrade overtime so are we able to change A500 battery if it is degraded or can we even upgrade it with a higher capcity in order to achive better performance?
Is their a tutorial for such procedure?
UPDATE: I would like to thank bvdrax for his help we are one stop closer to understanding our tablets
majidessa said:
Batteries performance degrade overtime so are we able to change A500 battery if it is degraded or can we even upgrade it with a higher capcity in order to achive better performance?
Is their a tutorial for such procedure?
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I was thinking about that this past weekend. That's one of the few things that I would like, that it currently doesn't have (a user replaceable battery). Although, I would imagine that we could find a battery that would work with it and replace it, if we didn't mind opening it up and voiding the warranty!
JackMetal said:
I was thinking about that this past weekend. That's one of the few things that I would like, that it currently doesn't have (a user replaceable battery). Although, I would imagine that we could find a battery that would work with it and replace it, if we didn't mind opening it up and voiding the warranty!
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Of course the battery may be soldered in, at which point even if getting the case apart without an issue is easy enough a soldering job would be needed. I would guess the warranty would be long since over by the time our batteries start going.
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google openiong iconia or something like that
There is a walk thru I Sen a week or so ago on replacing battery and so on. I think this device snaps together at the seems at top and bottom. Ibhave notices the button of mine is a bit wider crack then the top. So I do think this makes sense.
By the time my A500's battery dies enough for me to care, I fully expect to have replaced the tablet itself. My Droid's 2yo battery hilds up fine still under much harder use (including hotter processor and case temps from overclocking and from living in a car mount.)
There is a post on androidtablets.net that shows the tablet partly dissembled. I can't post the link because I don't have 8 posts.
I pulled the battery out of mine just now. It is not soldered in. The case came apart very easily using a pampered chef plastic orange peeler, and just easing it into the seam and following it around.
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I pulled the battery out of mine just now. It is not soldered in. The case came apart very easily using a pampered chef plastic orange peeler, and just easing it into the seam and following it around.
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The back of my box said 3260mAh x 2 ( 24.1 Wh ) ... is there 2 batteries ??
you mind taking pictures showing the steps of dissecting this baby ??
BTW ... that attached pic is way too small to see anything ( at least I saw the plug...that's a good thing )
Once I find the good camera I will take some better pics of how to tear it apart.
Try the link below for a better pic.
I am pretty sure this little plastic job has 2 batteries in it, as it looks to be segmented into two compartments. Also, the leads seam to indicate two batteries.
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https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tCpBFxsk1gBKpCr9vN-Z38CHbw16BN85JIFK8cJrdOQ?feat=directlink
^ 2 cells, not 2 batteries. A battery is merely the word for a collection of cells.
Here is a quick video of me cracking my A500 apart. Also, I have some better pictures of the inside with and without the battery and the battery itself.
http://youtu.be/MIvbWo_p3KI
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/AywLT6kob_wkcgtmStMZp8CHbw16BN85JIFK8cJrdOQ?feat=directlink
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/nOaHYqR0esfx-X7H1L_r6MCHbw16BN85JIFK8cJrdOQ?feat=directlink
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/5TUY_BB_osgg7HeN_wj8h8CHbw16BN85JIFK8cJrdOQ?feat=directlink
Thanks for the pic/video bvdrax
still not seeing 2x battery ... and it said Lithium Ion on the battery ...while it said Lithium Polymer on the box ..etc
Li-Ion & Li-Polymer are similar but different.
Whatever
at least it's not solder on.
bvdrax said:
Here is a quick video of me cracking my A500 apart. Also, I have some better pictures of the inside with and without the battery and the battery itself.
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Thank you in behalf of all the Acer Iconia owners who are curious to see how we can crack this one open. You are one brave individual for trying and succeeding and making it possible for us to see how easy it is to do so. More reason to love the Iconia, replaceable battery!
Let us know if you find a Mini PCI-E slot while you're digging in there.
thanks BVDRAX! Great job man!
The average Li-on battery carries a ~3 year useful life. More likely than not, three years from now most of us will have a different tab and you'll still be able to use yours over a/c.
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Let us know if you find a Mini PCI-E slot while you're digging in there.
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If you look at the 3rd link (or second link in the stills) there is a spot for a standard mini pci-e card, however there is no socket installed and looks like there is a number of electronic compnents missing which are associated with it
You are a brave soul. Thanks for risking your warranty to show us how to do this!
thx bvdrax!
Wow, great video and pics. Thanks a lot, good to know whats in there and how to get there.

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I bought one a while back for $50, and let me say, it's something everyone needs....
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My review on this product is basically this.....
This product is amazing in every way it's described. Small, portable, lightweight, lots of energy, and can charge anything.
It comes with 2 ports to charge (can be used at the same time), and 1 port to charge the actual battery.
Can charge my iPhone more than 6 times....I have not been able to test it efficiently, but it works, and it works well!
How to describe this product....
Think of an iPhone 4 in a Otterbox. Now imagine it was a bit longer like an iPhone5. Now imagine that it looks like an iPhone, yet there isn't really a screen, it's just for looks. Now what you do is you put this charger in your pocket with your phone when it's getting low (or in the car, in a bag, purse, whatever), and than you instantly have POWER IN YOUR PANTS.
I've been questioned....why do you have a wire coming out of your pants? How are you charging your phone while walking around? What type of magic is this?
On a more serious note...everyone phone dies...everyone wishes they could charge their phone while moving, and they also wish their phones would never die. This device does that and more.
It's programmed to charge iPhones and Androids faster than normal.
It comes with a ton of connectors to charge tablets, all phones, laptops, and basically anything I can think of.
for $40...it's a steal. Buy it, you'll love it. Thank me Later ♥
My review on Amazon is very basic, and lists the only two flaws I saw....
1) The iPhone connector will unattach itself from the provided cord that comes with the device. I think the same applies for Androids, and tablets. I suggest using the standard cord your device comes with to connect to the external battery.
2) there's a lot of important attachments that come in this very small bag, and all the pieces are very small. None of them are really needed besides the USB cord to charge the battery, but I wouldn't want to lose them, and yet they are so small...I likely will. Wish there was a small zipper in the protective pouch it comes in.
Conclusion:
★★★★★/★★★★★ (A universal product that should be owned by everyone)
Cost: $25-$40...I suggest buying the largest one, simply because it's an amazing deal. I bought it for $50 not too long ago, and it can be a life saver. (Think about the shows where you get lost in the woods, and your phone dies) ^_^
Edit: basically changed my review on amazon to this. Hope that's alright with you guys.
where is the link for this thing or even a name for it to buy? i am not seeing it. sorry if i missed something.
pomtouch said:
where is the link for this thing or even a name for it to buy? i am not seeing it. sorry if i missed something.
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My apologies, I seem to have forgotten to place both! It's made by Anker, or can be found at iAnker.com, or this direct link to Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009USAJCC/ref=cm_cr_ryp_prod_ttl_hst_61
Sorry about that!
Anker user checking in. Love mind, hooks a great charge and is portable enough to carry around.
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My Back Glass Lifted up

So, Im not a regular user, but I always read the forum and I thought it might be a good idea to share you this since almost nobody has reported that their back cover is lifting up, as it used to be a common failure on the original XZ (I own one) and not as common on en XZ3c.
Well, I bought the phone on January 11 and it was perfect, it passed the pressure test and had no problems, but on February 28 I realized that the phone didn't passed ir anymore, and then checked the watermark on de downside flap and it was red, and then WOW!! I Didn't even submerged my phone into water, I had just used a bit of water from a glass to clean it off, so it had no sense, well I said, nevermind is not waterproof anymore and is working great, it doesnt matter...
And Yesterday I was looking at the phone and realized the back cover is slightly lifted up on the camera corner, and if i press on that side and run the pressure test It works like a charm...
So thats it, Im raking it to Sony tomorrow, hope they tell me something legit and fix it or replace it.
P.S I dont use my phone as a game center, I dont have any game, heavy app, or record 4k video that might have heaten up the device and melt the glue on the back cover, I really think is a deffective unit.
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You should be okay as in either getting a replacement or getting your device fixed without any costs, because there is no damage to the device and it's possible that the adhesive can let go.:good:
Yeah, bad luck unfortunately. Return it to Sony, hope you get it fixed/replaced quickly.
Good Luck!
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Is... is that a cleaning cloth the phone is resting on?
Because there's still finger prints all over it, you could've used it to wipe the thing! Icky kicky all those smudges.
My money is on a faulty battery. It could puff up a bit and cause enough stress to lift the glass. If that's the case I would power the device off, leave it off, and don't attempt to charge it till it's been serviced/corrected or it could result in fire/explosion/injury/death...
At any point did you discharge the battery to the point where the phone turned itself off?
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My money is on a faulty battery. It could puff up a bit and cause enough stress to lift the glass. If that's the case I would power the device off, leave it off, and don't attempt to charge it till it's been serviced/corrected or it could result in fire/explosion/injury/death...
At any point did you discharge the battery to the point where the phone turned itself off?
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I Never discharged my phone below 20-30%, actually most of the days I arribad home on a 50% and charge it BEFORE I go to bed so it doesnt get overcharged during night charge... Im really careful with my phones I think is just defective, probably the heaviest app I had installed was Facebook... And Nerflix (which I never used).
Today I left the phone at Sony under warranty, I have to go in 10 days to get it back fixed or a new phone, depends what Sony says.
It happened to me to. They fixed it pretty fast, no questions asked
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It happened to me to. They fixed it pretty fast, no questions asked
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Glad to hear that! Did they replaced the back cover, glued the old one or replaced your phone?
Believe it or not, they replaced everything BUT the back cover!
So they changed digitizer, flaps and the frame (both the glossy part and frosted plastic part).
Also they unlocked my phone to all networks and made my bootloader unlockable.
So it was a winwin situation
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Believe it or not, they replaced everything BUT the back cover!
So they changed digitizer, flaps and the frame (both the glossy part and frosted plastic part).
Also they unlocked my phone to all networks and made my bootloader unlockable.
So it was a winwin situation
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Legit. Next time my wheel get removed from my car, I'll leave it on the ground and will put a new car right where my wheel is standing. It's safer.
Sony acts in strange ways
Well! Today I went to pick up my phone, and they replaced it with a brand new unit! Thanks Sony!

FPC Battery Connector for main logic board

Hi guys, is there anywhere I can get a fpc battery terminal for the logic board as per image attached? one of the brass prongs got caught in the battery and pinged off to my horror!
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Gutted is an understatement!
@turbotux If it's *just* the connector you want, and you're happy/able to solder it to the board, you can get it here.....
http://www.fonejoy.com/genuine-sams...edge-j1-j5-battery-connector-3711-008737.html
I personally wouldn't touch a hand soldering job like that, and I have been regularly using a soldering iron on all sorts of kit for over 20 years. The connectors are invariably microscopic and the potential to cause other, accidental damage is too high.
But if you want to try it....fair play and good luck (I think you'll need it).
Having actually had a 'close up' look at the connector, the solder points are bigger than I thought they would be (I've hand soldered smaller contacts). It would be possible to hand solder, but you'd need a *very* fine tipped soldering iron. And preferably one that produced a lower level of heat than a 'regular' soldering iron.
keithross39 said:
Having actually had a 'close up' look at the connector, the solder points are bigger than I thought they would be (I've hand soldered smaller contacts). It would be possible to hand solder, but you'd need a *very* fine tipped soldering iron. And preferably one that produced a lower level of heat than a 'regular' soldering iron.
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Thank you so much for the response, it appears the solder points are big enough, look it's broken each way so it's worth a try I guess.
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Thank you so much for the response, it appears the solder points are big enough, look it's broken each way so it's worth a try I guess.
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Yeah....you have a broken phone right now so why not try it? Just be *REAL* careful....There are a number of surface mounted components in close proximity to your work area....
Damaging them through accidental contact with the soldering iron (or even simple heat transfer along the board) is a BIG possibility....
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One final bit of advice (though you probably already know this) 'tin' or coat the solder points on the new part before going near the board. It'll help minimise the length of time the iron is in contact with the board.
I have a soldering iron with a 'home modified' reversable tip. You can see in the picture, at one end is the standard 4mm tip while at the other is a 1mm tip that tapers down to practically a needle point. This is the end that sees the most use, and it is that size of tip that you're going to need.
Just to update, I managed to solder it and it still did not work unfortunely so I've bought another n910f handset, these things happen. However the cause of this I think is down to the extended battery I had pulling on the whole module, I'm going to be running the stock batteries I have from now on.
A worthy purchase however is the extended battery I've picked up for those long cycle rides which should easily see me through, for interest its a 14000mAh Logic3 which I picked up from Maplin for around £40 and compared to its 30000mAh Chinese predecessor it totally kicks ass.
A expensive lesson learned here....
I've gone a slightly different route with my S5 and wife's N4. I have 3 batteries for each and an external charger for both types.
The spare batteries are standard capacity, but they're made by Anker.
Batteries get rotated so there's always a good battery in the phone, one that's charging and a fully charged one waiting for use.
keithross39 said:
I've gone a slightly different route with my S5 and wife's N4. I have 3 batteries for each and an external charger for both types.
The spare batteries are standard capacity, but they're made by Anker.
Batteries get rotated so there's always a good battery in the phone, one that's charging and a fully charged one waiting for use.
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Yeah the safe approach, I'm going down this route also, thanks for all your help
Yeah....It also minimises wear on the micro usb socket built into the phone...which is one big weak point on these devices.

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