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Why Samsung should leave Galaxy Tab vanilla

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/br...gle-or-the-oems/17840?tag=mantle_skin;content

if they leave it vanilla they need to fix a lot of bugs
Ill use whatever works best and right now the touchwiz leak is the most stable for me

khanable said:
if they leave it vanilla they need to fix a lot of bugs
Ill use whatever works best and right now the touchwiz leak is the most stable for me
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Bugs created because Samsung put their hands on major Android Elements.
Everything that Samsung touches in the software department its taking the curse of not working or being buggy.
They are making superior hardware, really the BEST hardware around and yet they killing it by touching the software. Not only that but yet they never support it or issue updates.
Samsung (and many other OEMS) just need to let their stupid customization let GO.

I could not agree more. This is exactly why I have a nexus one and why will be getting the nexus 3/nexus prime/whatever it's called. I can't really complain about the galaxy tab since I got mine for free(google i/o) but.. still. I don't know why they think that they know better than google. it's just ridiculous.

nMIK-3 said:
Bugs created because Samsung put their hands on major Android Elements.
Everything that Samsung touches in the software department its taking the curse of not working or being buggy.
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So how long have you been trying out Touchwiz on the tablet? What sort of bugs have you seen with it?

doctor3d said:
So how long have you been trying out Touchwiz on the tablet? What sort of bugs have you seen with it?
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Exactly
Touchwiz is far less buggy than stock right now

khanable said:
Touchwiz is far less buggy than stock right now
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I agree. It's a little laggy here and there, but it's faster for me than stock or Bonsai for some reason. And to be honest, it looks way nicer. I love the skinning and different notification panel.

I just ordered mine off eBay from the US to replace my Xoom, which I found heavy and the screen sucked. I hope the TouchWiz update is released soon, I really like some of the elements they've added. As much as I enjoy stock, I really do like that Samsung adds things like expanded format support to get hardware acceleration without my having to re-encode.

smaskell said:
I don't know why they think that they know better than google. it's just ridiculous.
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Yeah, thats exactly the same with some developer of some roms. . .they also act as they know more than both google and samsung. . .LOL
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Maintain certain basic standard
I've had my share of nightmare with Samsung's T Mobile Vibrant with it's broken GPS and slow to lack of updates and bug fixes. As much as Touchwiz may work well on the 10.1 for now,the solution to the bugs found in Honeycomb rest squarely on the shoulders of Google. Google owns the platform and no OEM should be allowed to change the core underlying code for any reason.
While the platform should remain open, the core OS functions should be locked from OEM.
Take a page from Apple's playbook in this regard Google.
As the happy owner of the G1,My touch 3G, Nexus 1, T Mobile Vibrant, Nexus S, 7 inch Galaxy Tab and now the 10.1 Galaxy Tab, the most update and bug fixes were pushed to the vanilla devices (Nexus 1 and Nexus S)
While Samsung makes great hardware, their bad repution for pushing out updates and bordeline performance with their overlay are all the more reason why they should leave the 10.1 vanilla or at the very least make the Touchwiz update optional.

Vanilla android is lacking in so many departments. The manufacturer customizations add useful features that make the devices more enjoyable (except for blur). The touchwiz ux for the tab is amazing. It looks much more polished, and it has much more useful features than stock honeycomb. Same with phones, all though i personally do not like touchwiz for phones, there are many that do. I prefer sense for phones, it has the best UI and a ton of useful features that make HTC phones a joy to use, especially with the latest sense 3.0 devices.
If it werent for the custom UI's, there would be no differentiation among competition. All the handsets/tablets would be running the same exact thing with pretty much the same specs, which was what was happening with all the honeycomb tablets.
And to be honest, touchwiz is running much more smoother and much less buggy than the vanilla 3.1 did.

Although I see where you're coming from, I disagree. While its true that leaving the OS open to manufacturer modification can have it's problems, closing the system would defeat the purpose of utilizing a linux based operating system in the first place...kinda goes against the philosophy of open source. Might as well just pull an apple and lock down the entire thing (it works for them...in a manner of speaking)
One could argue that google is at fault for witholding the SC, but at the same time, that's to prevent the fragmentation issues seen in gingerbread. Googles doing the best they can with what they have. If the Samsung wants to fart around with code that they "shouldnt", and make the experience of their device worse, it will show in their sales. If pure vanilla HC is truly the best course of action (a decision based off OVERALL customer opinion), it will be the course of they will eventually take (at least that's the idea anyway...I'm definitely not saying manufacturers tend to make stupid decisions).
Just goes to show there's problems on both sides of the spectrum. sometimes, you just cant have your cake and and eat it too.

I can agree that TW is working a lot better then stock HC. And it's more appealing to the eye.

Samsung and Google ICS event

So, who's about to watch the Samsung and Google event in Hong Kong? I'm watching for a timeline of ICS on our tabs. Should be fun.
http://www.youtube.com/android
Oh and the Galaxy Nexus will be cool too.

I'm watching with you as well! Hoping they will say there's an ICS update avail right now for our Tabs. lol

They say the developer SDK is available right now. Is that enough for ROMs or just apps?

just apps, we need the source code and drivers(?) for roms
Cool new intuitive changes borrowed from the android community.

looks promising and improvements from HC...
tho i find the People stuff a bit Microsoft feel...
love the Roboto and the rennovation... looks a lot smoother too...
love the new Camera Apps...
wish they tell a bit more about Galaxy Nexus since i am deciding to get an upgrade from HTC Magic...
hopefully coming to GT10.1 soon?

Why didn't they demo it on a tablet as well..

Im guessing because theyre going to show it off on a new motorola tablet and its a samsung event. Hopefully motorola shows something on their razr event.
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so the big question is..when can cyanogen have access to the sources??
CM9?
He has a galaxy tab 10.1 ..actually a couple of them

I think that new calendar will look really good on tablets. I only hope that if there will be a dedicated tablet calendar, the font size will be enlarged to some degree when you use the pinch to zoom function.
I absolutely love the "SWIPE ALL THE THINGS" idea, but I'm sure it takes some time to get used to. Getting rid of notifications in HC is something i find a nightmare. Where is the friggin "Clear All" Button?(Devs?)
Any thoughts about camera shutter response improvement with ICS on "older" devices, like SGS2? I mean, SGS2 is quite fast as it is, but there is always room for improvement.
The voice textmessaging seemed extremely accurate...in english. Hope it will be as accurate i Norwegian
The new browser, calendar, launcher and gallery seemed solid, so probably no need for any 3rd party replacement. Also, I like the transparency and the darkness through the whole stock theme. The new font also looks very nice!
What devices do you guys think will be ICS compatible? Minimum hardware specs? Still sittin' with an ol' SGS1, but i highly doubt I will ever see it running ICS.
When do you guys think ICS wil be available for our Galaxy Tabs? Q1 2012 maybe?

ICS on our tabs....i say ...Q2 next year?
on CM9 for our tabs...i say....Q1 next year..
so nothing for this year i am guessing?

paua__ said:
What devices do you guys think will be ICS compatible? Minimum hardware specs? Still sittin' with an ol' SGS1, but i highly doubt I will ever see it running ICS.
When do you guys think ICS wil be available for our Galaxy Tabs? Q1 2012 maybe?
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The current range of tablets (10.1, 8.9, XOOM etc) should be compatible and will probably get the ICS update. At least I hope they do.
It's a little more tricky for existing phones which have hardware buttons -- if the manufacturers want to release an ICS update for those, they will probably have to disable to onscreen buttons otherwise it will be just plain confusing.

Andy Rubin said most devices running 2.3.x shouldnwork just fine with ics. Seeing as the nexus s will get the update first, that sets the min speed at 1ghz single core. Our tabs should have no problem running 4.0.
I would expect source code to be released just after the nexus s update. So some aosp alpha stuff around Xmas. At least that would be a nice present.
Let's go through the improvemens:
- clean lock screen (already available as 3rd party apps)
- face unlock (first consumer implementation, though not new tech)
- notifications in lock screen (I am sure someone has done this, but not cyanogen)
- quick text respond (3rd party lock screen?)
- swipe away notifications (cyanogenmod)
- honeycomb app switcher w/ swipe away (finally!)
- data usage monitor (wow! I hope there is something like that for battery use)
- photo/video/gallery (some much needed improvements bring it up to the competition)
- cleaner ui experience (nice changes should make it competitive with apple out of the box)
- gv voicemails in call log (nice, but not a major uprade)
- native screenshot support (no more icon on lower bar! But already available for some devices)
- Google beam (doesn't really do it for me...)
- talk to type and keyboard improvements (we'll have to see if the can compete with 3rd partys)
- disable apps (already in titanium backup as freeze app)
- device encryption (already supported in honeycomb)
Personally the only other thing I really would like to see out of Samsung is an open api for their multitasking mini apps. Those are a major step forward in multitasking (at least on tablets)

seltaeb said:
The current range of tablets (10.1, 8.9, XOOM etc) should be compatible and will probably get the ICS update. At least I hope they do.
It's a little more tricky for existing phones which have hardware buttons -- if the manufacturers want to release an ICS update for those, they will probably have to disable to onscreen buttons otherwise it will be just plain confusing.
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no, they can also use the hardware buttons and disable the software buttons. will be no problem at all!
but whether they will release it for old devices (except nexus devices) or not... that's another question.

paua__ said:
I think that new calendar will look really good on tablets. I only hope that if there will be a dedicated tablet calendar, the font size will be enlarged to some degree when you use the pinch to zoom function.
I absolutely love the "SWIPE ALL THE THINGS" idea, but I'm sure it takes some time to get used to. Getting rid of notifications in HC is something i find a nightmare. Where is the friggin "Clear All" Button?(Devs?)
Any thoughts about camera shutter response improvement with ICS on "older" devices, like SGS2? I mean, SGS2 is quite fast as it is, but there is always room for improvement.
The voice textmessaging seemed extremely accurate...in english. Hope it will be as accurate i Norwegian
The new browser, calendar, launcher and gallery seemed solid, so probably no need for any 3rd party replacement. Also, I like the transparency and the darkness through the whole stock theme. The new font also looks very nice!
What devices do you guys think will be ICS compatible? Minimum hardware specs? Still sittin' with an ol' SGS1, but i highly doubt I will ever see it running ICS.
When do you guys think ICS wil be available for our Galaxy Tabs? Q1 2012 maybe?
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Try android pro widgets calendar, you can synced Google and change font size.
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What makes these ICS roms so cool?

I haven't really tried them out much yet. I installed AOKP for a little bit the other day, but didn't know enough about ti to leave it on as my daily driver for work. SO I am wondering what do these roms have that make them cool? I like the way the 5 icons look in the dock at the bottom of the screen, but I can get that with GoLauncher.
Not hating on these roms at all. I love what the devs are doing. I just want to know what difference I get going with an ICS rom over something like MikG 3.0 or tommys classic?
Thanks

It's the new thing out..newer is better, right?
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mike208 said:
I haven't really tried them out much yet. I installed AOKP for a little bit the other day, but didn't know enough about ti to leave it on as my daily driver for work. SO I am wondering what do these roms have that make them cool? I like the way the 5 icons look in the dock at the bottom of the screen, but I can get that with GoLauncher.
Not hating on these roms at all. I love what the devs are doing. I just want to know what difference I get going with an ICS rom over something like MikG 3.0 or tommys classic?
Thanks
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Its just another thing that we're not supposed to have on our evos which makes it fun!
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Battery life on decks alphas is awesome

I'd like to use Chrome for the phone.
I haven't left any on my Evo because I'm waiting for CM9 to come out. Although there are a couple of ROMS in the development section that looks promising.
Plus I am getting stellar performance w/ Evo Classic 0.06 Supermagic preview developed by TommyTomatoe

It's the latest version of Android, Google what's new.

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It's the latest version of Android, Google what's new.
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I have done that, but I also know these roms aren't all their yet. Just wondering what cool new features they have and which ones they might be missing compared to the actual ICS

I'm not always an early adopter, and I don't automatically subscribe to newer=better.
That said, I just really love the new UI for ICS. I've always had to theme my roms to get rid of green and replace with blue (I hate green).
It's also the first real revamp of the UI in a LONG time. I like how the menu options shoot up the middle of screen, instead of 6 blocks across the bottom.
I like how there's finally scrollable Widgets (namely, finally, for the email), but also browser, calendar.
The quickmenu in browser is a really cool feature, as is the way browser handles tabs.
I really like the way gallery is handled, and the layout for sharing options after a pic is taken.
Notifications sweep away much easier/smoother than I've ever seen on GB. Also, long press of home for task switching is handled nicer than previously, I think.
I just really like it. Yes, there are features not working yet, but I do think it really is an improvement over earlier versions. On AOKP, I'm getting pretty poor battery life (but it's a great ROM), On drews p6 I got fantastic battery life.
Oh, I like the rotation animation, too. I'm sure there's lots more I'm not thinking of.
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Not sold on ICS... yet.
I'm a flashaholic. My wife and I both have EVO 4G's, and I'm constantly flashing different ROMs on our phones. I've tried a couple ICS roms, even though there are still some bugs yet to be worked out. I'm not really impressed. I've found that I prefer ROMs that are more easily theme friendly. I think the new ICS blue is gonna get old fast. My wife prefers MikG 3.0, while I'm currently swagged out with Swagged Out Stock (Swag=ON). That said, when CM9 is available, I'll flash and play around with it. I'm also looking forward to checking out Chrome and a few other apps only available for ICS.

Why do you think CM9 will be worth? Hell, it may never even come to Evo (if you haven't noticed, CM has dropped support for Evo). The devs working on 4.0 now are light years beyond CM. Try it , you'll see.
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Hey,
Ics is android 4.0 which is the latest and greatest! All the android 4.0 roms you will find right now are all AOSP roms, and later on when HTC releases it there will be the Sense android 4.0 roms! The difference is its just the latest and has extra eye candy and a few better features!
I hope I helped If I did please hit the thanks button,
Stevo

scottspa74 said:
Why do you think CM9 will be worth? Hell, it may never even come to Evo (if you haven't noticed, CM has dropped support for Evo). The devs working on 4.0 now are light years beyond CM. Try it , you'll see.
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As far as I've heard from inside source is that cm9 is close to ready for evo. Its missing some drivers that they are having to write themselves due to lack of support from HTC and qualcom. I know for a fact that a close buddy of mine is running cm9 that he compiled himself from cm tree only thing is hes had to hack the kernel for now. So it will be coming eventually.

cool to hear. I'll obviously keep my eye out (always am lol). Thanks for heads up. AOKP so far has been pretty amazing, though.
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Battery life is my favorite part so far. Going a full day and at the end of the night having 50% left is ridiculous. I use to be lucky having battery left by lunch! AOKP by the way. Tried to post the screenshot but either the upload doesn't work on the app or I don't have enough posts.

First, its task manager is awsome, you have to now end tasks or they will keep going its nice in some ways but lame if you get tomany running,
second, scrollable widgets and the ablity to resize them.\
and thats all i got

The big things that I'm loving about ICS are;
Scollable widgets (I used to stick to sense because of the great widgets, but these are comparable).
Re-sizable widgets (I know this is available with different launcher replacements, but it's nice to have "out of the box").
Battery life, getting almost 24 hours on AOKP.
Swiping away notifications (again, available on different ROMs).
The overall look is fresh, I prefer the blue over the typical green.
The things I'm not a fan of;
No 4g (though I hardly ever used it anyway because it just KILLS my battery).
No video recording.
Random force closes (these are few and far between, much less than other ROMs I've been on, but they still happen).
Not being able to long press to add an app or widget to a screen (I know this is available through NOVA launcher, just talking about out of the box here).
Not sure if I'm sold on the new app drawer layout.
Bottom line is, since I flashed ICS (Evervolv first, now AOKP) to try it out, it's become my daily driver. The features match up with what I'm looking for, and what's currently missing will surely be fixed soon enough thanks to the awesome dev's working on it. As always, it boils down to what you want and what you can live without.

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I think thats what it was, for me at least. I couldn't wait to hop on board the ICS train. I was flashing everytime someone released a new alpha!
It eventually died down for me, and now I am settled back down nicely with CM7..

So far the only ICS that has impressed me was 4.0.3 sense 4.0. Other than that I can't seem to see what all the hype is. Aosp ICS in my opinion(yes my opinion) is its plain and poorly colored. Maybe I don't want a turquois blue UI. Idk. Just MY opinion as I know everyone has their own ideas thoughts and feelings. Don't get me wrong I do like some of the features(some which evo4g may not see) but in time I believe it will get better. Everything starts from bottom. GB was the same way when it surfaced for our evos. Well see what the future brings!

Will Galaxy Note Get Update TouchWiz 5

Samsung Galaxy S3 announced. It is covered by butter smooth Touchwiz 5. Will we get the touchwiz 5 throuh future firmwire update? Whats your opinion.

lol firstly we need to get ics update with samsung software developing style maybe next year we will get touchwiz 5 ;D

Doubtful.
TW5 may be a bit of a bigger departure, ux wise, than TW4, which is one REASON Samsung wouldn't want to hoist something different on their existing user base.
TW5 is also designed for new, specific sensors and other hardware available on SGS3 - so it would have to be a port for existing Note and SGS2. Similar to how HTC devices without ImageSense chip cannot ever be upgraded to Sense 4, only Sense 3.6.
Finally, Samsung would want to dangle TW5 software features for the Note's successor instead of spending time and money and backporting it over.
So, no - I wouldn't hold my breath for official TW5 upgrade. I'm sure our talented devs will port some of the features over, though.
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I'm gonna remove it immediately after I flash final ICS release. Touch**** is the worse launcher I ever see. Apex launcher is perfect for me.

As far as i remember all previous tw launchers used to be butter smooth in preview videos,but so laggy in reality!!!
No need for this [email protected]££t
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I don't know, but I'll be royally pissed if our Notes don't get ICS before the S3 is available for purchase.

leppo said:
I don't know, but I'll be royally pissed if our Notes don't get ICS before the S3 is available for purchase.
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God save the Cyanogenom team
i dont care about sambloatware :banghead:
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Touchjizz..? No thanks..

afilopou said:
God save the Cyanogenom team
i dont care about sambloatware :banghead:
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Still, a new official Kernel means new cooked roms from official ICS. I personally can't wait.
Since the leaked bricks and imilka discontinuing his roms the dev section got real boring/quiet for me and I can't wait for official so that it will wake back up.
CM9 is awesome but choices/flavors/etc are always fun and not everyone likes the feature set of CM9 (I do, just saying).
For example I always preferred Coredroid over CM7 with my Inspire
As far as TouchWiz goes, I laugh at all the TW haters. I LOVE CM9 on the note, its way faster. That said, I can't stand EVERY launcher out there other than TW/AOSP when it comes to Samsung phones. The app drawer load time and smoothness on TW blows ADW/GO/Apex/etc out of the water. Every single time I try another launcher and enjoy some of its features or styles I get so aggrivated with the slow app drawer and end up going back. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of things I don't like about TW and plenty of things I love about Apex/ADW but the app drawer load time alone is enough to drive me insane.

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God save the Cyanogenom team
i dont care about sambloatware :banghead:
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I tried out imilka's CM9 for a week, and while it was good, I was missing the S-pen, so I went back to stock.

crawlgsx said:
Still, a new official Kernel means new cooked roms from official ICS. I personally can't wait.
Since the leaked bricks and imilka discontinuing his roms the dev section got real boring/quiet for me and I can't wait for official so that it will wake back up.
CM9 is awesome but choices/flavors/etc are always fun and not everyone likes the feature set of CM9 (I do, just saying).
For example I always preferred Coredroid over CM7 with my Inspire
As far as TouchWiz goes, I laugh at all the TW haters. I LOVE CM9 on the note, its way faster. That said, I can't stand EVERY launcher out there other than TW/AOSP when it comes to Samsung phones. The app drawer load time and smoothness on TW blows ADW/GO/Apex/etc out of the water. Every single time I try another launcher and enjoy some of its features or styles I get so aggrivated with the slow app drawer and end up going back. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of things I don't like about TW and plenty of things I love about Apex/ADW but the app drawer load time alone is enough to drive me insane.
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Try TSF shell, the smoothness is unreal on the Note.

It'll probably be ported over.

leppo said:
I tried out imilka's CM9 for a week, and while it was good, I was missing the S-pen, so I went back to stock.
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Spen works fine with cm9.The button of spen dont work,but i dont care for this functionality.Also catch notes with the catch add on is a very good replacement of s memo
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Samsung won't offer TouchWiz UX on Note, stop dreaming.
However, CM9 and opensource can bring it to you. Check http://opendesign.blamesamsung.org/

I think that is TW5 one of the selling points for SGS3,so... probably not.
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CONTACTMC said:
Try TSF shell, the smoothness is unreal on the Note.
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Thanks for the tip, will do.
Edit: Bah, maybe not. $17 is a lot considering my disliking for every launcher I have tried so far lol.

I honestly believe the few recommending the super expensive TSF are the devs doing some sneaky advertising...
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youre kidding, right?
in the history of touchwiz (which predates android, btw) no phone has ever gone from one version to the next. what is comes with is what it stays with.

You don't need to worry about TouchWiz 5 coming to our Notes, because it won't!

crawlgsx said:
As far as TouchWiz goes, I laugh at all the TW haters. I LOVE CM9 on the note, its way faster. That said, I can't stand EVERY launcher out there other than TW/AOSP when it comes to Samsung phones. The app drawer load time and smoothness on TW blows ADW/GO/Apex/etc out of the water. Every single time I try another launcher and enjoy some of its features or styles I get so aggrivated with the slow app drawer and end up going back. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of things I don't like about TW and plenty of things I love about Apex/ADW but the app drawer load time alone is enough to drive me insane.
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I don't understand the hate about TouchWiz. It's so smooth and fast compared to Go Launcher or Nemus Launcher, that both are little laggy. Go launcher has the best features, but when it lags, it lags and i don't want my launcher to lag. TW all the way!
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what do you think about the new official ics?

Well i already installed it wit infamous 2 but i dont like it. I think touchwiz in this rom look horrible, with colors that in personal i dont like it. And many features like face unlock are not in this upgrade. What do you think?

Other than face unlock, for which I have absolutely no use for, whats missing?
+ Beats HC and the former ICS/JB custom ROMS by a mile.
+ Runs great, especially the browser.
+ Looks good, but I like stock JB better, nothing to bad though.

too big font, too bright color, ugly locking screen, lost about 200MB RAM.
All other things are great.

Its touchwiz again. I think it looks horrible and i hope cm10 will get the camera drivers soon.
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As far as performance is concerned it is great, a big step forward compared to previous ROMs or other custom firmware. Unfortunately, it is bloated with Touchwiz apps which are not necessary since there are Google equivalent apps that do the job perfectly well.
However, the biggest issue for me is the fact that it has no consistent user interface, a problem common to all non-stock Android versions. The Samsung apps have their own Touchwiz user interface while all other apps use the standard ICS user interface elements and colours. Some system elements like the Settings panel and various pop up windows utilise the Touchwiz graphical elements while others the standard ICS elements. Even the arrows that allow the user to select a piece of text look completely different depending on whether one is running a Samsung app or a standard Android one!
In my opinion, it is important for an OS which depends heavily on the user interface, like tablet and phone OSes, to have a common and standard look and feel not only for cosmetic purposes but also to ensure that the users are not confused and all apps look consistent with a specific design philosophy so that users can easily locate menus and other elements. This is the biggest failure of Touchwiz and as a result the overall look and feel of this firmware is strange with bright and colourful user interface elements when Touchwiz is used and dark black and blue elements when running standard Android apps.
Notice here that I am not judging the quality of Touchwiz vs standard ICS and some people prefer the one instead of the other. I am saying that whatever the choice of user inteface it has to be consistent throughout the system and third-party apps. Personally, I prefer the standard ICS user inteface but this is not the point of my argument.
I hope that third-party Android developers will use the updated libraries of this firmware as well as the camera drivers to produce a fully functioning standard ICS or Jelly Bean ROM through projects like CM9/CM10 for the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
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Braaank said:
Well i already installed it wit infamous 2 but i dont like it. I think touchwiz in this rom look horrible, with colors that in personal i dont like it. And many features like face unlock are not in this upgrade. What do you think?
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I am one of those who actually MUCH prefer Touchwiz and the other Samsung apps, added settings and personalizations (for example the overlay mini-apps and the now configurable screenshot button are extremely handy and I hate the "2-steps" notification bar in non-TW ROMs) so for me this ROM is GREAT.
I have never been interested in the least in face-unlock, I have always used the pattern lockscreen.
What I would have liked to see in this ROM are the SIM application toolkit, the numbers top row in the keyboard (like in all the recent Samsung keyboards) and the battery percentage.
P.S. that said, if the G.Tab 10.1 isn't going to get an official JB update from Samsung I am sure that at some point, once it matures, I will go back to CM10...

I have installed it on P7500 3G and it works fine (4.0.4 firmware for Italy)
however, keyboard does NOT work in Android Terminal Emulator, and I don´t know why
does anybody else use Terminal Emulator, can you check and report? thanks

Braaank said:
Well i already installed it wit infamous 2 but i dont like it. I think touchwiz in this rom look horrible, with colors that in personal i dont like it. And many features like face unlock are not in this upgrade. What do you think?
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I'm as happy as a pig in ****, now I might use it for more than a glorified Netflix machine.
That was the thing with the custom ICS/JB roms is that they were so unstable and brought literally nothing to the table besides being someone else's opinion on what they thought I wanted.
I want stability and I want good, official looking apps. Not File Manager HD with its advertising aids and not some bright ass boot animation that blinds me every time I have to reboot because it froze overnight.
But I digress.
I think this release by Samsung is quite amazing, and it will hold me off long enough till I decide to buy a newer model Galaxy Tab.
At the rate Samsung is going they are going to be my new favorite company. Not just because of this update, for numerous other dealings as well.

peraburek said:
I have installed it on P7500 3G and it works fine (4.0.4 firmware for Italy)
however, keyboard does NOT work in Android Terminal Emulator, and I don´t know why
does anybody else use Terminal Emulator, can you check and report? thanks
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I had that same problem yesterday, no matter which keyboard I tried, I'll probably just use another terminal app.
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The new version is definitely a step ahead. It seems Swype is usable now, although it still lags a bit but at least it can keep up with typing for me not like earlier versions.
I also like it and I guess touchwiz is inevitable. Desktop customization has been upgraded too which is very useful.
If something else could be asked is a tad more smoothness when switching desktops and probably one last push update to jelly bean for increased smoothness.
We'll see in the coming days with extended use. For.me :good:

Am I the only one havin' problems playin' some HD videos in the youtube app? (Factory Reset done after odin flash) My old SGS running ICS is capable of doin' that.
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the ugliness of the Samsung 4.0.4 really disturbs me...
Was Samsung smoking pot in the many months spent on making it on to 10.1?

peraburek said:
I have installed it on P7500 3G and it works fine (4.0.4 firmware for Italy)
however, keyboard does NOT work in Android Terminal Emulator, and I don´t know why
does anybody else use Terminal Emulator, can you check and report? thanks
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It doesn't work for me too. I can enter numbers and other symbols, but I cannot enter any letters.
Edit: It turned out, that using Swype instead of Samsung keyboard, works great in the Terminal Emulator.

new ics samsung
iI like it, very stable and with best email stock client that I never see.

I really am digging it. My only complaint so far is how close the notification icons are to each other.

le_novo said:
Am I the only one havin' problems playin' some HD videos in the youtube app? (Factory Reset done after odin flash) My old SGS running ICS is capable of doin' that.
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same problem here ...

The only thing that i complain in this new build, is there are some games that aren't working. For example Mass Effect (GooglePlay obviously) it works on CM9, however doesn't on the Samsung rom (both 4.04).

WildeHilde! said:
same problem here ...
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no problems whatsoever here and what "problems" are you two talking about exactly?
P.S. and I watch a lot of Youtube videos on the tab

daniel_fm said:
The new version is definitely a step ahead. It seems Swype is usable now, although it still lags a bit but at least it can keep up with typing for me not like earlier versions.
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Yes!!! This was probably the first thing I checked once the install had finished. I love Swype but it was pretty much unusable in stock HC on the tab. No more automatic deleting of the last two characters when typing a search into the browser!!!
From my perspective it's a it early to give an opinion but it's looking good so far although my quadrant score has taken a nosedive (yes, I know that doesn't mean anytihgn in reality)

Lagging playback on some HD videos.
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